Chip with simple program for Toy

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:50:50 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:23:41 +0200 (CEST), sky465nm@trline4.org wrote:

http://neilkalo.googlepages.com/keithley2100
It must have been programmed in PL/M

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

With nothing to loose maybe one could make shoot at trying some own
firmware?
If it becomes bricked it can be used a doorstop ;)


I'd rather try to embarass Keithley into fixing their own hideous user
interface.

If they had any sense, they would send every 2100 owner a 2 Gig USB
memory stick. On it would be the necessary firmware upgrades to make
the damned thing usable. The instructions would say...

1. Plug stick into the 2100's USB slot

2. Power up the 2100

3. Keep the memory stick, with our apologies for your inconvenience.

Of course, they won't do anything like that, partially because they
don't know how, partially because they don't care.
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It seems they have figured out what to do with them; extracted from an
email advertisement:
-----------
Keithley’s Model 2100 6˝-Digit USB DMM. Every lab could use one. But
sometimes you want to set voltage and/or current when making
resistance measurements. You could turn to either:

* Keithley’s Model 2400 SourceMeter Instrument, or
* Model 6517 Electrometer/High Resistance Meter

Can’t afford a DMM and one of these instruments? Yes, you can!

From now through September 30, 2008, purchase one of these
instruments and get a Model 2100 6˝-Digit USB DMM at no extra cost!*

But hurry! This offer ends September 30, 2008. Order now for fastest
delivery!
----------------
 
I turned mine on this morning and all it does is beep continuously and
show this:

ftp://66.117.156.8/Stupid_2100.JPG

I'm actually relieved... I can finally dumpster the piece-o-crap.


John
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:05:53 -0700 John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in Message id:
<hctid4daiei4v9cg00nu4eceogclgisma0@4ax.com>:

I turned mine on this morning and all it does is beep continuously and
show this:

ftp://66.117.156.8/Stupid_2100.JPG

I'm actually relieved... I can finally dumpster the piece-o-crap.
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Really? I'll take it off your hands - The VFD may be good for repairing
some of their other models. What do you want for it?
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:05:53 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

I turned mine on this morning and all it does is beep continuously and
show this:

ftp://66.117.156.8/Stupid_2100.JPG

I'm actually relieved... I can finally dumpster the piece-o-crap.
Click to expand...
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They're doing the same thing...

http://www.keithley.com/promo/wb/274

JF
 
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:36:49 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:05:53 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:



I turned mine on this morning and all it does is beep continuously and
show this:

ftp://66.117.156.8/Stupid_2100.JPG

I'm actually relieved... I can finally dumpster the piece-o-crap.

---
They're doing the same thing...

http://www.keithley.com/promo/wb/274

JF
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"More than twice as fast as the competition" is Chinese for "you can't
read the display."

John
 
John Larkin wrote:
I turned mine on this morning and all it does is beep continuously and
show this:

ftp://66.117.156.8/Stupid_2100.JPG

I'm actually relieved... I can finally dumpster the piece-o-crap.
Click to expand...

If you are really going to trash it, I'd like to have it.


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I solved the problem:

ftp://66.117.156.8/KeithleyFix.jpg

ftp://66.117.156.8/MadeInUSA.JPG

John
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:58:47 -0700, "BobW"
<nimby_GIMME_SOME_SPAM@roadrunner.com> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:3iaqd4t7qrgoq8s4aqjdhjub34tmbr1qe0@4ax.com...


I solved the problem:

ftp://66.117.156.8/KeithleyFix.jpg

ftp://66.117.156.8/MadeInUSA.JPG

John


Yep. In this case, the old adage "you get what you pay for" is certainly
true. Fluke makes good meters.
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---
I haven't bought anything from Keithley for a while but, in all
fairness, I paid a good price for this old girl more than a few years
ago and she's always stood me in good stead:

news:eek:mpqd41vhl03ec3cdud00lsfupc6ogrcmh@4ax.com

JF
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:05:32 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:58:47 -0700, "BobW"
nimby_GIMME_SOME_SPAM@roadrunner.com> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:3iaqd4t7qrgoq8s4aqjdhjub34tmbr1qe0@4ax.com...


I solved the problem:

ftp://66.117.156.8/KeithleyFix.jpg

ftp://66.117.156.8/MadeInUSA.JPG

John


Yep. In this case, the old adage "you get what you pay for" is certainly
true. Fluke makes good meters.

---
I haven't bought anything from Keithley for a while but, in all
fairness, I paid a good price for this old girl more than a few years
ago and she's always stood me in good stead:

news:eek:mpqd41vhl03ec3cdud00lsfupc6ogrcmh@4ax.com

JF
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Yep. But that's like old Tektronix stuff versus the new crap :-(

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On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:16:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:05:32 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:58:47 -0700, "BobW"
nimby_GIMME_SOME_SPAM@roadrunner.com> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:3iaqd4t7qrgoq8s4aqjdhjub34tmbr1qe0@4ax.com...


I solved the problem:

ftp://66.117.156.8/KeithleyFix.jpg

ftp://66.117.156.8/MadeInUSA.JPG

John


Yep. In this case, the old adage "you get what you pay for" is certainly
true. Fluke makes good meters.
Click to expand...
Fluke got out of the precision $1000-range benchtop DVM biz for a
number of years; I'm glad they're back.


---
I haven't bought anything from Keithley for a while but, in all
fairness, I paid a good price for this old girl more than a few years
ago and she's always stood me in good stead:

news:eek:mpqd41vhl03ec3cdud00lsfupc6ogrcmh@4ax.com

JF

Yep. But that's like old Tektronix stuff versus the new crap :-(

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...

I like all the color digital Tek scopes we've bought lately, maybe a
dozen by now. They work great and none have broken so far. Have you
had problems?

I was disappointed when Keithley slapped their name on a Chinese
re-brand, apparently without testing it much.

John
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:33:21 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

I solved the problem:

ftp://66.117.156.8/KeithleyFix.jpg

ftp://66.117.156.8/MadeInUSA.JPG

John




Big mistake, John.
Click to expand...

You are giving access to the entire directory.
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:05:53 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

ftp://66.117.156.8/Stupid_2100.JPG
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Send it to me please. I want to "crawl" through it and see what
oddball tricks they used.
 
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:44:03 -0700, AnimalMagic
<AnimalMagic@petersbackyard.org> wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:33:21 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:



I solved the problem:

ftp://66.117.156.8/KeithleyFix.jpg

ftp://66.117.156.8/MadeInUSA.JPG

John




Big mistake, John.

You are giving access to the entire directory.
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It's my public FTP site.

John
 
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:24:55 -0700, "Don Kelly" <dhky@shaw.ca> wrote:

per unit time,
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You must have missed where he DID mention velocity.
 
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:10:59 -0700, RoyLFuchs
<RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:


Howard Hughes proved that liquids are compressible.
Click to expand...

Right. Prior to that, nobody noticed that sound propagates in water.


Then, we all called him a genius, which he was.

Then, he crashed his toy (or it was sabotaged). Then, he went nuts.
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C'mon Roy, explain voltage to us.

John
 
In article <k8ece41uuf48mnc8o8befvrj6m7jbc3sjj@4ax.com>,
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says...
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:10:59 -0700, RoyLFuchs
RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:




Howard Hughes proved that liquids are compressible.


Right. Prior to that, nobody noticed that sound propagates in water.



Then, we all called him a genius, which he was.

Then, he crashed his toy (or it was sabotaged). Then, he went nuts.


C'mon Roy, explain voltage to us.
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s/Roy/Dimbulb/

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On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:25:45 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:10:59 -0700, RoyLFuchs
RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:




Howard Hughes proved that liquids are compressible.


Right. Prior to that, nobody noticed that sound propagates in water.
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It also propagates through solids, idiot. Sound propagation has
nothing to do with compressibility.

Then, we all called him a genius, which he was.

Then, he crashed his toy (or it was sabotaged). Then, he went nuts.


C'mon Roy, explain voltage to us.
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Take a small rooftop lightning rod, and an ankle chain. Walk up on a
tall 14k' plus mountain.. Hold the lightning rod up.

You'll learn what voltage and current is, but it will be the last thing
you learn.
 
In article <of9de4hu12qtoh6qj2dvh2hsciscsaab1p@4ax.com>,
RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org says...
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:25:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:10:59 -0700, RoyLFuchs
RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:




Howard Hughes proved that liquids are compressible.


Right. Prior to that, nobody noticed that sound propagates in water.

It also propagates through solids, idiot. Sound propagation has
nothing to do with compressibility.
Click to expand...
Really Dimbulb? How does sound work in your universe?

Then, we all called him a genius, which he was.

Then, he crashed his toy (or it was sabotaged). Then, he went nuts.


C'mon Roy, explain voltage to us.

Take a small rooftop lightning rod, and an ankle chain. Walk up on a
tall 14k' plus mountain.. Hold the lightning rod up.

You'll learn what voltage and current is, but it will be the last thing
you learn.
Click to expand...
You oughtta try it sometime, AlwaysWrong.

--
Keith
 
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:37:20 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:11:13 -0700, RoyLFuchs
RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:25:45 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 01:10:59 -0700, RoyLFuchs
RoyLFuchs@urfargingicehole.org> wrote:




Howard Hughes proved that liquids are compressible.


Right. Prior to that, nobody noticed that sound propagates in water.

It also propagates through solids, idiot. Sound propagation has
nothing to do with compressibility.


Wonderful! You are raising being really, really wrong to a high art.

Here, this may help:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound#General_formulae

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/sound/souspe2.html

See? The speed is inverse on compressibility. That was known a long
time before HH was born.
Click to expand...
Wrong. You speak of liquids and gasses. In solids it relates to shear
deformation at the lattice level. Nothing is compressed. No physical
shape change occurs

In the wiki link, you should examine the portion on speed through
solids, as most of the article is about speed through, and effects on
gasses and liquids. Solids barely get a mention.

You probably believe that glass is a solid, and you probably think that
two colliding spheres is only a momentary collision.

You should study billiards. Though the balls appear solid, they are
quite elastic. Ceramic billiard balls (or other more brittle medium)would
force players to re-learn everything they previously thought they knew
about "English".

It is not a direct collision/vector response. The rotation of the
primary moving ball at the impact point imparts some of that rotation
into the ball that gets collided with. That proves that the contact is
slightly more than momentary, and that friction comes into play.
 
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:37:20 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

You don't understand voltage, do you?
Click to expand...
Likely far more than you do or ever will.

Don't feel bad, lots of techs
don't actually understand voltage. I suppose I'll have to explain it
one of these days.
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You're an idiot, Larkin. Don't feel bad though. Dopey asswipes like
you die alone, much like OJ will.

I suppose you should go back to the fuck off and die barrel, asswipe.
 
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