Chip with simple program for Toy

[John Fields]

On 04 Sep 2008 21:02:42 GMT, "Dan Drake" <dd@dandrake.com> wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:52:07 UTC, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:47:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote just the
pathetic excuse for a puerile troll thats all it can ever manage.

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My, but you concede defeat ungracefully!

JF

Why do I suspect that it was never his intention to argue a case?

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Because, from his previous outbursts, you noticed that he prefers empty
epilogue to reasoned dialogue?
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I must be a mean, suspicious bastard.

---
"Once burned, your fault. Twice burned, my fault."

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:35:35 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote just the
pathetic excuse for a puerile troll thats all it can ever manage.

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My, but you concede defeat ungraciously with your boilerplate.

Hardly Olympic material, are you?

And, by the way, my dad can beat up your dad.

JF

 

[John Fields]

On 04 Sep 2008 21:04:08 GMT, "Dan Drake" <dd@dandrake.com> wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 01:51:45 UTC, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com
wrote:
Even a terminal fuckwit should have been able to work out for
itself that this shit was never the jurisdiction that applied when
Galileo chose to avoid getting burnt at the stake the way he did,
or that this steaming turd was even around at that time either.


OMFG!!!!!1!

Honest, folks, I thought my preceding post, making exactly this point, was
SARCASTIC.
When shall I learn that with trolls there is no possibility of sarcasm?

---
With some of them there is, and the repartee can get quite interesting
when the dialogue slips above/beneath the pedestrian.

The "Rod Speed" character, however, seems to be stuck in the neverland
between being hit and bouncing off a wall and thinking that it's it
that's calling the shots.

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:44:20 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote just the
pathetic excuse for a puerile troll thats all it can ever manage.

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Can you play in C# minor?

JF

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

"Rod Speed" wrote:

Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote just the
pathetic excuse for a puerile troll thats all it can ever manage.

Can you play in C# minor?

More important is the question, "Can he play in heavy traffic"?


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[Dan Drake]

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:46:27 UTC, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On 04 Sep 2008 21:02:42 GMT, "Dan Drake" <dd@dandrake.com> wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:52:07 UTC, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:47:02 +1000, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Some terminal fuckwit claiming to be
John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote just the
pathetic excuse for a puerile troll thats all it can ever manage.

---
My, but you concede defeat ungracefully!

JF

Why do I suspect that it was never his intention to argue a case?

---
Because, from his previous outbursts, you noticed that he prefers empty
epilogue to reasoned dialogue?

Y'know, I think you've nailed it.

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[Hammy]

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:53:16 -0700 (PDT), lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hello I am using the PSPice Orcad

I have many drivers with the same voltage. Is there a way to do the
simulation with only that voltage and use reference point to that
voltage instead of using multiple line from the source to each driver.
This would reduce a lot the amount of lines and would make things much
clearer.

THANKS,

k
Use "NET ALIAS".

 

[Hammy]

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:03:59 -0700 (PDT), lerameur <lerameur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

SO far I have seen net alias as naming nodes in a circuit.
I would like a tool that instead of using 8 Vdc, at the same voltage,
just use one then use a shortcut to that one voltage supply.

K
Yes if you name the positive node of your 8VDC source "power" . You

can name other nodes you want the 8VDC connected to "power" and they
will be electrically connected both in spice and when you do a layout.
You could also use off page connectors, Vcc power synbols.

 

[lerameur]

On Sep 8, 8:24 pm, Hammy <spa...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 16:53:16 -0700 (PDT), lerameur <leram...@yahoo.com
wrote:

Hello  I am using the PSPice Orcad

I have many drivers with the same voltage. Is there a way to do the
simulation with only that voltage and use reference point to that
voltage instead of using multiple line from the source to each driver.
This would reduce a lot the amount of lines and would make things much
clearer.

THANKS,

k

Use "NET ALIAS".

SO far I have seen net alias as naming nodes in a circuit.
I would like a tool that instead of using 8 Vdc, at the same voltage,
just use one then use a shortcut to that one voltage supply.

K

 

[John Fields]

On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 00:01:09 -0700 (PDT), gay <gaypavan@gmail.com> wrote:

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Just another example of the endless SPAM empowered by Google, posted
free to USENET in defiance of the charters of the newsgroups violated.

That is, Google, what is it about "no" that you don't understand?

JF

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 07:47:17 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote:

"Bill"


Technical: if each of the stages has a bandwidth that includes the
audio bandwidth and a response that is sufficiently flat, which is the
usual case, the stages do not amplify the input distortion, because
distortion is a ratio, and each stage amplifies both wanted and
unwanted components in more or less equal amounts.


** Simply stated, the distortion (as a percentage) will not change - it
just gets amplified along with everything else that is presented to the
input.


Of course it will
slightly favor one or the others, but it is hard to tell which ones,
and the "average" of the "gain factor" applied to the input distortion
is closer to 1 than to G (the gain of that stage). Another thing is
that that stage will also create and add new distortion products.


** In a chain of audio op-amp stages, the one operating with the highest
output level will usually be the one producing the most non-linear
distortion. So that makes it the last one.

In practice however, the THD produced is so low it is negligible - even
using old types like the 301A or 741.


..... Phil

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Can't argue with that. ;-)

I've got an old Radio Shack stereo receiver which lost a 1458 early on
and, after replacing it, it still works and I can still jam with Hot
Tuna.

JF

 

[Eeyore]

John Fields wrote: "Phil Allison" wrote:

"Bill"

Technical: if each of the stages has a bandwidth that includes the
audio bandwidth and a response that is sufficiently flat, which is the
usual case, the stages do not amplify the input distortion, because
distortion is a ratio, and each stage amplifies both wanted and
unwanted components in more or less equal amounts.

** Simply stated, the distortion (as a percentage) will not change - it
just gets amplified along with everything else that is presented to the
input.

Of course it will
slightly favor one or the others, but it is hard to tell which ones,
and the "average" of the "gain factor" applied to the input distortion
is closer to 1 than to G (the gain of that stage). Another thing is
that that stage will also create and add new distortion products.


** In a chain of audio op-amp stages, the one operating with the highest
output level will usually be the one producing the most non-linear
distortion. So that makes it the last one.

In practice however, the THD produced is so low it is negligible - even
using old types like the 301A or 741.

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Can't argue with that. ;-)

I've got an old Radio Shack stereo receiver which lost a 1458 early on
and, after replacing it, it still works and I can still jam with Hot
Tuna.

It's a little different when working with sub -100dB THDs ! Not to meantion
500pV/sqrt Hz input devices.

Graham

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:29:00 +0200, Martin Griffith
<mart_in_medina@yah00.es> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:09:10 -0700 (PDT), in sci.electronics.design
Neil Kalo <neilkalo@gmail.com> wrote:

I just saw another post about this meter, from some poor sod who had
bought one. I cannot post a reply as the thread it too old.

DO NOT BUY THE KEITHLEY 2100

It is the most disappointing device I have ever bought. It promises so
much, and delivers so little.

I was moved to write a few notes about it, but my review doesn't show
up in Google so people are still buying this cheap meter. It may be
half the cost of a fluke, but it is worth only 10%.

You can see my comments here:

http://neilkalo.googlepages.com/keithley2100


It must have been programmed in PL/M


martin

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

John

 

[Scott Newell]

John Larkin wrote:

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

Do you know which micro it uses? I'm wondering if it would
be possible to reprogram with custom firmware. Of course, if
Keithley can't fix it...

--
newell N5TNL

 

[Neil Kalo]

On Sep 12, 11:01 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:29:00 +0200, Martin Griffith



mart_in_med...@yah00.es> wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:09:10 -0700 (PDT), in sci.electronics.design
Neil Kalo<neilk...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just saw another post about this meter, from some poor sod who had
bought one. I cannot post a reply as the thread it too old.

DO NOT BUY THE KEITHLEY 2100

It is the most disappointing device I have ever bought. It promises so
much, and delivers so little.

I was moved to write a few notes about it, but my review doesn't show
up in Google so people are still buying this cheap meter. It may be
half the cost of a fluke, but it is worth only 10%.

You can see my comments here:

http://neilkalo.googlepages.com/keithley2100

It must have been programmed in PL/M

martin

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

John

The original instrument seems to be here:

http://www.array.com.cn/M3500A.htm

But it has more features (including themocouple temperature and GPIB).

It's so sad that the hardware seems great, but the firmware is a
disaster. This must be tarnishing the Keithley brand. I will never buy
anything from them again.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:49:51 -0500, Scott Newell <newell@cei.net>
wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

Do you know which micro it uses? I'm wondering if it would
be possible to reprogram with custom firmware. Of course, if
Keithley can't fix it...

I has three microprocessors. It would be a lot cheaper to trash-can
the Keithleys and buy the new Flukes.

John

 

[Charlie Siegrist]

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:45:59 -0700, "BobW"
<nimby_GIMME_SOME_SPAM@roadrunner.com> wrote:

I've got an old Radio Shack stereo receiver which lost a 1458 early on
and, after replacing it, it still works and I can still jam with Hot
Tuna.

JF

Hot Tuna! Jack and Jorma would be proud of you.

Bob

If you don't know Jorma, you don't know Jack.

 

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[JosephKK]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:23:41 +0200 (CEST), sky465nm@trline4.org wrote:

http://neilkalo.googlepages.com/keithley2100
It must have been programmed in PL/M

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

With nothing to loose maybe one could make shoot at trying some own
firmware?
If it becomes bricked it can be used a doorstop

I like that line of thought, but the reverse engineering cost is going
to atrocious. I could buy many Chinese made Flukes or other
copy/knock-offs for that amount of money.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:23:41 +0200 (CEST), sky465nm@trline4.org wrote:

http://neilkalo.googlepages.com/keithley2100
It must have been programmed in PL/M

It's a Chinese rebrand. The hardware seems good, but the firmware is
absolutely brain-damaged, and the engineers at Keithley are powerless
to fix it.

I have 4 of them. No Keithley, ever again.

With nothing to loose maybe one could make shoot at trying some own
firmware?
If it becomes bricked it can be used a doorstop

I'd rather try to embarass Keithley into fixing their own hideous user
interface.

If they had any sense, they would send every 2100 owner a 2 Gig USB
memory stick. On it would be the necessary firmware upgrades to make
the damned thing usable. The instructions would say...

1. Plug stick into the 2100's USB slot

2. Power up the 2100

3. Keep the memory stick, with our apologies for your inconvenience.

Of course, they won't do anything like that, partially because they
don't know how, partially because they don't care.


John