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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:51:49 GMT, "Ross Mac"
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Damn! I wish I could oblige!
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Harry Conover
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Jim Thompson <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:<3v4isvsktgeobqjnqjil7n5qrepsco6dcq@4ax.com>...
anyone who watches TV with all of her contrived photo ops. Obvious
this effort is not expended for nothing, and by not declaring early
she avoids being subjected to any of the candidate duels.
She's a sneaky and clever little bitch, however her list of
accomplishments are no basis justifying a run for a presidential
challenge. Then too, the Clintons are a bit like Freddy Kruger, tough
to kill...like a bad nightmare they keep returning!
It's pretty hard to believe that the Democrats have nothing better to
offer than the present slate.
Harry C.
Sadly yes, at least that's my guess. In fact, it's pretty obvious toOn 29 Nov 2003 13:45:26 -0800, hhc314@yahoo.com (Harry Conover) wrote:
"Robert Monsen" <postmaster@BulkingPro.com> wrote in message news:<p8txb.240786$ao4.862310@attbi_s51>...
"Paul Burridge" <pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:59:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Bush Has Thanksgiving Dinner with Troops in Baghdad.
He must *love* air travel. A 26hr round-trip for a 2hr visit! I only
wish I were that keen on flying.
Flying in AF1 isn't like coach... Also, he isn't footing the bill. I bet
they got lots of nice photos that'll be splattered all over TV news tonight.
Great PR.
Then too, you have to give the guy credit for having the character and
the guts to pull this trip off. After all, landing AF1 at Bagdad
Airport takes more than a small bit of character and courage.
It is to be expeced that many of the Democratic hopefuls will bitch
and moan, which hopefully will tend to thin the herd. I note that ALL
of the more serious Democratic contenders said that it was the right
thing for Bush to do.
Then too, we all know who the "Black Horse" candidate who will carry
the Democratic banner in 2004 will be, and IMHO it isn't any one of
the already announced candidates! Wait and see.
Harry C.
You mean the "Bitch Witch" ?
anyone who watches TV with all of her contrived photo ops. Obvious
this effort is not expended for nothing, and by not declaring early
she avoids being subjected to any of the candidate duels.
She's a sneaky and clever little bitch, however her list of
accomplishments are no basis justifying a run for a presidential
challenge. Then too, the Clintons are a bit like Freddy Kruger, tough
to kill...like a bad nightmare they keep returning!
It's pretty hard to believe that the Democrats have nothing better to
offer than the present slate.
Harry C.
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Harry Conover
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toor@iquest.net (John S. Dyson) wrote in message news:<bqb9ef$2mpj$1@news.iquest.net>...
Bush's lack of pro-active action on the middle-income employment
situation seems probable to become his Achilles Heel unless things
change quickly.
Then too, the Democrats have little meaningful to say on the subject,
since not a single one of them has offered a promising solution of
their own.
I personally believe it is time for Ted Kennedy to throw his hat into
the ring because, if nothing else, a Kennedy/Bush contest would at
least provide food for intelligent thought.
Harry C.
I totally agree with you.In article <7ce4e226.0311291345.30ffa18e@posting.google.com>,
hhc314@yahoo.com (Harry Conover) writes:
"Robert Monsen" <postmaster@BulkingPro.com> wrote in message news:<p8txb.240786$ao4.862310@attbi_s51>...
"Paul Burridge" <pb@osiris1.notthisbit.co.uk> wrote in message
news
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:59:55 -0700, Jim Thompson
invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Bush Has Thanksgiving Dinner with Troops in Baghdad.
He must *love* air travel. A 26hr round-trip for a 2hr visit! I only
wish I were that keen on flying.
Flying in AF1 isn't like coach... Also, he isn't footing the bill. I bet
they got lots of nice photos that'll be splattered all over TV news tonight.
Great PR.
It is to be expeced that many of the Democratic hopefuls will bitch
and moan, which hopefully will tend to thin the herd. I note that ALL
of the more serious Democratic contenders said that it was the right
thing for Bush to do.
It CERTAINLY increases their apparent character by HONESTLY congradulating
the pres when appropriate. This helps to strengthen the effect
when VALID criticism is asserted.
All too often, the Dems condem everything that the President does,
and lose ALL credibility because they are wrong more often than
not. There is plenty to VALIDLY criticize the president, but it
is fairly clear that the Democrat candidates are either too
stupid or just doing shotgun criticism to see if anything sticks.
Pathetic indeed, esp when (again) there are adequate issues to
validly criticize the pres.
John
Bush's lack of pro-active action on the middle-income employment
situation seems probable to become his Achilles Heel unless things
change quickly.
Then too, the Democrats have little meaningful to say on the subject,
since not a single one of them has offered a promising solution of
their own.
I personally believe it is time for Ted Kennedy to throw his hat into
the ring because, if nothing else, a Kennedy/Bush contest would at
least provide food for intelligent thought.
Harry C.
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Bill Garber
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"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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the fact that they were thinking about committing
murder, but that they changed their mind after seeing
that other guy put to death for it, however your post
might have held more clout had you not insulted the
man beforehand.
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I have to agree with you there. Who would admit to
the fact that they were thinking about committing
murder, but that they changed their mind after seeing
that other guy put to death for it, however your post
might have held more clout had you not insulted the
man beforehand.
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John Woodgate
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote (in <3FC944E0.4040800@nospam.com> about 'Bush Has Thanksgiving
Dinner with Troops in Baghdad', on Sun, 30 Nov 2003:
will all seize your guns and kill him and all his entourage.
That's why you NEED all those Constitutionally- authorized guns, isn't
it?
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about 'Bush Has ThanksgivingDinner with Troops in Baghdad', on Sun, 30 Nov 2003:
Until, of course, he does something you REALLY don't like, and then you
will all seize your guns and kill him and all his entourage.
That's why you NEED all those Constitutionally- authorized guns, isn't
it?
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John S. Dyson
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In article <MPG.1a3326389937b0e98a937@enews.newsguy.com>,
Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net> writes:
paralytic. Used to stop breathing.)
Third -- Potassium Chloride (stops heart.)
A strong opiate (like a fentanyl derivative -- sufentenyl (sp?)
might be useful for the first one.) It isn't likely quite
as absolute as the curare type things for the cessation of
breathing, but might work fine. Frankly, the current formula used
is quite absolute. Perhaps the opiate would be a reasonable
replacement for both the first and second, but again -- the
3 chemicals work super well.
(There might also be an anti-histamine and benzodiazapine
given before hand -- there is a possibility of an allergic
reaction to one of the drugs (probably the barb), and the
benzo will help the apprehension.)
John
John
Keith R. Williams <krw@attglobal.net> writes:
Second -- Curare type thing (probably Succinaldehyde(sp?) or otherIn article <6MabVVG1ZPy$EwD$@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk says...
I read in sci.electronics.design that DarkMatter <DarkMatter@thebaratthe
endoftheuniverse.org> wrote (in <qmphsvg8rca5e89fufq47n9dspc9kumavr@4ax.
com>
Sat, 29 Nov 2003:
The gas chamber killed in seconds and was not painless if one
contrasts the duration and writhing of an electrocution execution.
There is a great deal of evidence that people took/take several minutes
to die in apparent agony. Do a web search.
You go find it. I think you'll find the "lethal injection" is a
cocktail of all sorts of opiates (or their equivalents). Curare
may be in the cocktail, but the idea is to put the perps to
"sleep", much like the dogs and cat I've had to put down. My
animals didn't harm anyone though.
First -- strong sedative (barbiturate.)
paralytic. Used to stop breathing.)
Third -- Potassium Chloride (stops heart.)
A strong opiate (like a fentanyl derivative -- sufentenyl (sp?)
might be useful for the first one.) It isn't likely quite
as absolute as the curare type things for the cessation of
breathing, but might work fine. Frankly, the current formula used
is quite absolute
. Perhaps the opiate would be a reasonablereplacement for both the first and second, but again -- the
3 chemicals work super well.
(There might also be an anti-histamine and benzodiazapine
given before hand -- there is a possibility of an allergic
reaction to one of the drugs (probably the barb), and the
benzo will help the apprehension.)
John
John
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Ross Mac
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Ross Mac
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"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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In article <sC$+GgGgCRy$EwAc@jmwa.demon.co.uk>,
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk mentioned...
poison. http://groups.msn.com/TheAlchemistsCorner/yourwebpage3.msnw
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jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk mentioned...
I consider this to be a much more important article than zombieI read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <bqanda01fvr@drn.newsguy.com>
about 'Zombies are real', on Sat, 29 Nov 2003:
John Woodgate wrote...
Winfield Hill wrote:
Kevin Aylward wrote...
No such thing as zombies.
Actually, you're wrong; do some research.
I get 549 kilohits by putting 'zombies' into Google. ...
It says that 'zombies' are living people under the influence
of drugs. I can believe that.
Close but no cigar. Poor research terms. Add Wade Davis and
tetrodotoxin. But skip the Hollywood Serpent and Rainbow movie.
Some example sites:
http://groups.msn.com/TheAlchemistsCorner/thezombiepoison.msnw
http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/philosophy/critical/corbett-davis.html
poison. http://groups.msn.com/TheAlchemistsCorner/yourwebpage3.msnw
Well, if the foo..
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Just when you thought you had all this figured out, the gov't
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Greg Pierce
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:38:23 +0000, the highly esteemed R. Steve Walz
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:
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Greg
--The software said it requires Win2000 or better, so I installed Linux.
enlightened us with these pearls of wisdom:
Did you forget to take your anti-psychotic drug, Comrade Steve?
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--The software said it requires Win2000 or better, so I installed Linux.
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Tim Auton
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DarkMatter <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:
look at the overall murder rate and gather the information from that.
Oh look, it is. Dumbshit.
Tim
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And the beast shall be made legion. Its numbers shall be increased a
thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
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Damn. You're right. I just wish is were possible for statistics to
look at the overall murder rate and gather the information from that.
Oh look, it is. Dumbshit.
Tim
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thousand thousand fold. The din of a million keyboards like unto a great
storm shall cover the earth, and the followers of Mammon shall tremble.
- The Book of Mozilla, 3:31
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Chuck Harris
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Tim Auton wrote:
..
Here in the US we have maybe executed what, 200 people wrongly?
Yet, yearly we allow the bloody violent death of more than 50,000
innocent people seemingly at random.
Instead of issuing driver's licenses: a sentence to a random, violent
and merciless death, we should issue "life" passes to walking. Much
safer.
If it only saves one life, it WILL be worth it!
-Chuck
Note for those incapable of lateral thinking:
In every product or service, there is a price attached to a human
life. How much money do we spend to avoid the loss of innocent life?
For the car, it is a few thousand dollars per car. For capital
punishment, it is $40,000 per year for 15-20 years.
When I hear this argument, I always think of the automobile
..
Here in the US we have maybe executed what, 200 people wrongly?
Yet, yearly we allow the bloody violent death of more than 50,000
innocent people seemingly at random.
Instead of issuing driver's licenses: a sentence to a random, violent
and merciless death, we should issue "life" passes to walking. Much
safer.
If it only saves one life, it WILL be worth it!
-Chuck
Note for those incapable of lateral thinking:
In every product or service, there is a price attached to a human
life. How much money do we spend to avoid the loss of innocent life?
For the car, it is a few thousand dollars per car. For capital
punishment, it is $40,000 per year for 15-20 years.
C
Chuck Harris
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Fred Bloggs wrote:
Jefferson, Madison, ... Roosevelt, .....
-Chuck
Yeah, that Lincoln guy was such a slouch! Same with Washington,
Jefferson, Madison, ... Roosevelt, .....
-Chuck
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Paul Burridge
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:00:14 +0000, Tim Auton <tim.auton@uton.[group
sex without the y on the end]> wrote:
crap he's installed in place of the heredi-tories. "Baroness Amos" -
LOL! Basically, any old PoS will do so long as they dance to his tune.
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sex without the y on the end]> wrote:
There was no "upper-house problem" until Bliar came along. Look at the
crap he's installed in place of the heredi-tories. "Baroness Amos" -
LOL! Basically, any old PoS will do so long as they dance to his tune.
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Fred Bloggs
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Chuck Harris wrote:
IDIOTIC FOOL MENTALITY" would contain 99% of these so-called victims.
I think if you histogrammed the distribution, the box labeled "MINDLESS
IDIOTIC FOOL MENTALITY" would contain 99% of these so-called victims.
F
Fred Bloggs
Guest
Chuck Harris wrote:
Roosevelt was rather bland compared to Reagan- much too solemn. And the
earlier Presidents , up to Jackson, subscribed to a completely different
view of the common man you may just not like at all.
These people did not have the same powerful modern media as Reagan.
Roosevelt was rather bland compared to Reagan- much too solemn. And the
earlier Presidents , up to Jackson, subscribed to a completely different
view of the common man you may just not like at all.
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Fred Bloggs
Guest
Chuck Harris wrote:
during his administration would be met with quick riot police brutality,
incarceration, and possibly some example hangings. I guess this is a
form of communication
Oh yeah- Lincoln- a very tough no-nonsense individual- any war protests
during his administration would be met with quick riot police brutality,
incarceration, and possibly some example hangings. I guess this is a
form of communication
F
Fred Bloggs
Guest
Fred Bloggs wrote:
Jefferson-very attuned to the influence of the media- if they persisted
in presenting a slant contrary to his ideas, he would send the Army in
to destroy all of their facilities and rough up the personnel.
Roosevelt- all Moslems and individuals of Arab extraction rounded up and
confined in detention camps immediately.
Madison- he would declare war on Iraq as a pretext for invading Canada;_)
Let's pursue this further based on historical precedent:Chuck Harris wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote:
It could be worse, someone like the "great communicator", Ronald
Reagan, was capable of convincing the vast majority of just what the
national will should be quite effectively. There has never been
another like him before or since.
Yeah, that Lincoln guy was such a slouch! Same with Washington,
Jefferson, Madison, ... Roosevelt, .....
-Chuck
Oh yeah- Lincoln- a very tough no-nonsense individual- any war protests
during his administration would be met with quick riot police brutality,
incarceration, and possibly some example hangings. I guess this is a
form of communication
Jefferson-very attuned to the influence of the media- if they persisted
in presenting a slant contrary to his ideas, he would send the Army in
to destroy all of their facilities and rough up the personnel.
Roosevelt- all Moslems and individuals of Arab extraction rounded up and
confined in detention camps immediately.
Madison- he would declare war on Iraq as a pretext for invading Canada;_)
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Jim Thompson
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:00:57 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:
[snip]
...Jim Thompson
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wrote:
[snip]
Yay!! Let's here it for American Presidents!!Oh yeah- Lincoln- a very tough no-nonsense individual- any war protests
during his administration would be met with quick riot police brutality,
incarceration, and possibly some example hangings. I guess this is a
form of communication
Let's pursue this further based on historical precedent:
Jefferson-very attuned to the influence of the media- if they persisted
in presenting a slant contrary to his ideas, he would send the Army in
to destroy all of their facilities and rough up the personnel.
Roosevelt- all Moslems and individuals of Arab extraction rounded up and
confined in detention camps immediately.
Madison- he would declare war on Iraq as a pretext for invading Canada;_)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Chris Hills
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In article <3fc65f6c$0$169$1b62eedf@news.wanadoo.nl>, Frank Bemelman
<fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> writes
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