audio recording on IC -help wanted

[Jim Thompson]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jim Thompson wrote:

"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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"John" <name@email.com> wrote in message
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|I am in the Uk and recently bought some budget zinc chloride AAA
cells.
| I was surprised they has a no-load voltage of 1.65v. A different
brand
| has a voltage of 1.69v.
|
| Isn't that rather high? How can the manufacturers cram such a high
| potential?
|
| I did a few checks on some AAA cells....
| Budget zinc chloride1:
| no load = 1.65v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.44v
|
| Budget zinc chloride2:
| no load = 1.69v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.45v
|
| part-used Duracell M3 alkyline:
| no load = 1.45v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.56v
|
| part-used Energizer NiMH rechargeable:
| no load = 1.33v; after 15secs at 150mA = 1.24v
|
|
| Not too sure what this shows about thos zinc chloride! Any
| observations?

My observation would be someone gave you a digital voltmeter
for xmas and you didn't know what else to do with it?


Good guess, I was going to say his meter is out of wax.


No problem! He can use a big ole screwdriver to pry a chunk out of
each ear, and he'll be all set for another couple months.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

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Whatsamatta poor soldier? No friend? Can't help it? too lonely? Your
big problem is, you're such a dumbfuck chipmunk follower. And no God is not
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...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens
|
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et
|
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 |
|
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962
|

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Jim Thompson wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Jim Thompson wrote:

"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics> wrote in message
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"John" <name@email.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A51D1A72FF871F3M4@127.0.0.1...
|I am in the Uk and recently bought some budget zinc chloride AAA
cells.
| I was surprised they has a no-load voltage of 1.65v. A different
brand
| has a voltage of 1.69v.
|
| Isn't that rather high? How can the manufacturers cram such a high
| potential?
|
| I did a few checks on some AAA cells....
| Budget zinc chloride1:
| no load = 1.65v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.44v
|
| Budget zinc chloride2:
| no load = 1.69v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.45v
|
| part-used Duracell M3 alkyline:
| no load = 1.45v: after 15secs at 150mA = 1.56v
|
| part-used Energizer NiMH rechargeable:
| no load = 1.33v; after 15secs at 150mA = 1.24v
|
|
| Not too sure what this shows about thos zinc chloride! Any
| observations?

My observation would be someone gave you a digital voltmeter
for xmas and you didn't know what else to do with it?


Good guess, I was going to say his meter is out of wax.


No problem! He can use a big ole screwdriver to pry a chunk out of
each ear, and he'll be all set for another couple months.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Whatsamatta poor soldier? No friend? Can't help it? too lonely? Your
big problem is, you're such a dumbfuck chipmunk follower. And no God is not
blessing America as you asked. Do you know why? You guys sinned against
God Big time, you killed million innocents and you do not count them.

Yawn. What a patheitc forgery.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

hihihi <See@signature-at-the-bottom-of-the-message.invalid> wrote in
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Lostgallifreyan wrote:

so a good way to test is to put it in a freezer while it's still at
40°C or more. If it's anything less than bone dry inside, the outer
mylar tape will cloud on the inside.

There is one problem to look out for.
If you take the cold trafo out of the freezer, the outside air will
create moist on the cold outside of the trafo.
This might look as if it is inside.
Wipe the outside of the trafo dry before checking if there is cloud on
the inside.

No need, the idea is you open the door and take a look after sealing it in
there for ten minutes. I guarantee this will work, you will get a very good
look at it before it can cloud on the outside. I doubt it will anyway,
because you put it in warm, it will stay warmer than the ambient heat for a
lot more than ten minutes.

Don't take my word for it, get a ceramic bowl, heat to 50°C, put a few
drops of water in, then cover with clingfilm, then seal it in the freezer,
then go back and look at it after ten minutes, and see how long it lets you
see that the condensation is clearly INside, and not outside. I bet you'll
have no trouble at all.

And removing the transformer from the freezer after testing will be fine,
it won't be cold enough to get vapour back inside from the ambient air. If
you thgink there IS a risk, on a humid day, or you forget to remove it,
just seal it in a plastic bag before letting it warm up outside the
freezer.

 

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[Fred Bloggs]

Thank guys for your replies .Some of them i have to study first

Let me make some things clear about the circuit and values chosen

1. I've measured turn-on , turn-off delay at 3.3 ms for the driver relay.All
results are
after calculating this delay .So what is see on the scope is at the moment
i'm explaining
2. the arc is across the driver relay .The power board is inside a control
unit box so
i have to leave with small distances and cpu disturbances.Its actually a
microcontroller
having the problem .Driver relay contact current rating is 5A at 220V
.Power relay coil is rated is 6
watts consumption at 220V.
3. Using large value capacitors over 33 nf was causing sometimes latch of
the power relay so i have
value limitation here
4. The capacitors i've chosen are X2 self healing 275VAC. With no ZC control
they are blown
to 0 nf value (some of them) after 10-12 months of operation.
5. I don't have the space or budget to use large sized capacitors rated at
higher voltages or SSR .
The idea was to use ZC to avoid using expensive and large size protection
snubber
So the question is .

Does the relay On/OFF time differs with time .If it's 10% it's not a
problem since again
the arc will not be so high .Since its the current break that causes the
arc i must switch off at Peak of the
ac voltage .This is what my reading confirmed .In this case switching a
resistive load must i change the driver
algorithm ???

Any helpful comments will be apreciated

The circuit below simulates fairly well. You don't want to use a
conventional snubber across the contacts because on opening the relay
coil voltage reverses and adds to the 220VAC source. Placing a snubber
in shunt with the coil with peak current limiting resistor as shown
increases operating power by about 10% but tends to maintain the contact
voltage and results in a very slew rate limited 0.5V/us contact voltage
peaking in the 450V range. There should be no arc at all with this
circuit, with or without zero crossing logic. K1 are the 12V relay
contacts and K2 is the 220VAC coil. I did not consider contact bounce on
closure, will leave that to you.
View in a fixed-width font such
as Courier.


.
.
.
.
. 220VAC
. o o
. | |
. | |
. | - K1
. | -
. | |
. | |
. | R 100R, 1.5W
. | |
. | |
. | +-----.
. | | |
. | - |
. | |\| |
. | K2|\| ===
. | |\| | 47nF
. | |\| |
. | - |
. | | |
. | | |
. '------+-----'
.
.

 

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[Fred Bloggs]

legg wrote:

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:02:31 -0500, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



The circuit below simulates fairly well. You don't want to use a
conventional snubber across the contacts because on opening the relay
coil voltage reverses and adds to the 220VAC source. Placing a snubber
in shunt with the coil with peak current limiting resistor as shown
increases operating power by about 10% but tends to maintain the contact
voltage and results in a very slew rate limited 0.5V/us contact voltage
peaking in the 450V range. There should be no arc at all with this
circuit, with or without zero crossing logic. K1 are the 12V relay
contacts and K2 is the 220VAC coil. I did not consider contact bounce on
closure, will leave that to you.
View in a fixed-width font such
as Courier.


.
.
.
.
. 220VAC
. o o
. | |
. | |
. | - K1
. | -
. | |
. | |
. | R 100R, 1.5W
. | |
. | |
. | +-----.
. | | |
. | - |
. | |\| |
. | K2|\| ===
. | |\| | 47nF
. | |\| |
. | - |
. | | |
. | | |
. '------+-----'
.
.

Placing impedance in series with the working solenoid could produce a
reduction in speed/dropout performance in the armature of the relay
switching the main working load. (not shown in the above drawing)

I'm not sure how you modelled the relay coil, but if it used a linear
inductor, it will not likely reflect actual performance. A relay
drive coil is coupled to a mechanically changing magnetic circuit.

As the OP already has a cost-free solution involving programmed timing
adjustments, perhaps it's best to let the issue drop?

RL

He was working with a largely resistive 8KR coil, the 100R has no effect
on pull-in or hold-in. The programmed timing can be dropped, what
happens at line loss, does his controller lock up because things didn't
go exactly as planned, you tell me.

 

[legg]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:51:29 -0500, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

Placing impedance in series with the working solenoid could produce a
reduction in speed/dropout performance in the armature of the relay
switching the main working load. (not shown in the above drawing)

I'm not sure how you modelled the relay coil, but if it used a linear
inductor, it will not likely reflect actual performance. A relay
drive coil is coupled to a mechanically changing magnetic circuit.

As the OP already has a cost-free solution involving programmed timing
adjustments, perhaps it's best to let the issue drop?

RL


He was working with a largely resistive 8KR coil, the 100R has no effect
on pull-in or hold-in. The programmed timing can be dropped, what
happens at line loss, does his controller lock up because things didn't
go exactly as planned, you tell me.

I've asked for this information, but still see only the reference to a
6W AC coil in the relay doing the work. Larger AC working relay coil
current is seldom determined by the DC impedance of the coil. You can
refer to the Leach tutorial on this issue, and their catalog, though
they don't seem to supply relays or contactors with low frequency AC
coils, at present.

For example, a 115V 400Hz coil in a 4W series, is listed as consuming
90mA. This indicates that the DC resistance of the coil must be less
than half an RDC value that would produce the specified current, in
order to keep combined power loss from coil and armature poles to the
value expected.

The losses in AC activated coils is typically 5 times that for DC
rated ones, in simpler commodity forms like OMRON MGN.

http://components.omron.com/components/web/webfiles.nsf$FILES/family.html?ID=CNEN-6TJQPU

But that wasn't always the case.

Older SquareD parts anticipate coil current ratios of more tha 4:1
between closed and open armature, with different values expected for
50 and 60Hz dedicated parts..

http://ecatalog.squared.com/catalog/173/html/sections/21/17321026.html#1013844

The same relationship shows up in lower-powered parts:

http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?S=21426&M=FEAT&P=86596,80517&U=&BML=10576,16354,16453&LG=1

RL

 

[Peter Dettmann]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:33:10 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Peter Dettmann wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

From the 1992 Dick Smith catalogue, the following are stated:
A = Linear
B = Logarithmic
C = Logarithmic
E = Anti-Log
J = Linear

Dick Smith is wrong.

In your realm he may not be right, but he is certainly not wrong.

On looking through my junk box, all the C's all measure as log, and
all the A's are linear. Another designation I found was W which is
a Wire Wound pot.

*JUNK BOX* i.e. nothing modern of course.

You have to read the whole thing, and forget your limited experience.
The whole point is that there has been no universal standard, so I am
in difficulty understanding why you are disputing this basic fact when
it has been authenticated.

My alleged 'limited experience' includes designing mixing consoles for Neve, DDA
and Studiomaster. I ma quite intimately familiar with pot specs in fact.

Whereas you have nothing more than 15 year old Australian hobbyist catalogue to
offer.

I suggest you start by examining the taper drawings on page 4 of this document.
http://www3.alps.co.jp/WebObjects/catalog.woa/PDF/E/Potentiometer/InsulatedShaft/RK11K11/RK11K11.PDF

Yes, some companies use other designations (American makers especially) but
you'll find the Alps laws widely copied. and they're as close to a 'standard' as
I know. Several of them are JIS ( Japan Industry Standard).

Graham

Sigh ..... Graham, you again miss the point. You seem to state
unequivocally that a C taper is nor ever has been used anywhere
regularly as a Log taper. You based this on your wide experience.
Well my friend, your wide experience is obviously not wide enough.

Your experience on some mixing consoles is commendable, but hardly
adequte. My limited though wider experience on radio repair and
electronics, over several decades of design and manufacture show that
your bald statement is only true in a limited area. I did not
consider that an astute person would need more than one reference to
show that the C Log taper is and has been used. Live with it.
As I said earlier, this has been in use since at least the early
1950's, but obviously not universally (I already agreed to that
previously).

What is or is not standard now is not the question, if you read
carefully the matter dealt with what was used, and that is not in
doubt. C taper was certainly used extensively, and for many years as
a Log designator. You have not shown otherwise. End of story.

Peter Dettmann

 

[legg]

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:09:22 -0500, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

legg wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:51:29 -0500, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



Placing impedance in series with the working solenoid could produce a
reduction in speed/dropout performance in the armature of the relay
switching the main working load. (not shown in the above drawing)

I'm not sure how you modelled the relay coil, but if it used a linear
inductor, it will not likely reflect actual performance. A relay
drive coil is coupled to a mechanically changing magnetic circuit.

As the OP already has a cost-free solution involving programmed timing
adjustments, perhaps it's best to let the issue drop?

RL


He was working with a largely resistive 8KR coil, the 100R has no effect
on pull-in or hold-in. The programmed timing can be dropped, what
happens at line loss, does his controller lock up because things didn't
go exactly as planned, you tell me.


I've asked for this information, but still see only the reference to a
6W AC coil in the relay doing the work. Larger AC working relay coil
current is seldom determined by the DC impedance of the coil. You can
refer to the Leach tutorial on this issue, and their catalog, though
they don't seem to supply relays or contactors with low frequency AC
coils, at present.

For example, a 115V 400Hz coil in a 4W series, is listed as consuming
90mA. This indicates that the DC resistance of the coil must be less
than half an RDC value that would produce the specified current, in
order to keep combined power loss from coil and armature poles to the
value expected.

The losses in AC activated coils is typically 5 times that for DC
rated ones, in simpler commodity forms like OMRON MGN.

http://components.omron.com/components/web/webfiles.nsf$FILES/family.html?ID=CNEN-6TJQPU

But that wasn't always the case.

Older SquareD parts anticipate coil current ratios of more tha 4:1
between closed and open armature, with different values expected for
50 and 60Hz dedicated parts..

http://ecatalog.squared.com/catalog/173/html/sections/21/17321026.html#1013844

The same relationship shows up in lower-powered parts:

http://catalog.tycoelectronics.com/TE/bin/TE.Connect?S=21426&M=FEAT&P=86596,80517&U=&BML=10576,16354,16453&LG=1

RL

I'm aware of that. Generally AC coils with predominantly reactive
impedance are rated in VA and the so-called impedance limited coils with
impedance dominated by coil wire resistance are rated in Watts. The OP
is working with a 6W impedance limited coil.

Sorry, but I don't see a resistance limited coil described in any
correspondence from the OP.

The most common ( old P&B now Tyco ) contactor for high current that
still offers AC coils and a fair description of their impedance and
wattage expectations:

http://tinyurl.com/3845jx

RL

 

[Lostgallifreyan]

Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote in
news:slrngkc9o1.445.cheney@atc5.vermine.org:

Saw this in the specs of a momentary switch :

Note: AC Inductive Load PF = 0.6 - 0.7
DC Inductive Load L/R = 7 msec

I suppose I should be ashamed, but... Someone care to tell me
what "PF" and "L/R" mean here ?

PF might be power factor. Not sure about L/R.

 

[Jim Thompson]

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I need to display the numbers 0-255 in decimal on a 3-digit LED
display for a microcontroller project (it would need to be visible in
the dark). Ideally the display would be inexpensive and not take up
too many uC outputs, but what I am finding is expensive ($30 or more).
Does anyone make an inexpensive 3-digit 7-segment LED module that
accepts serial input from say, a PICAXE or a BASIC Stamp 2? Also I
haven't done anything using serial i/o yet but I saw some displays
that had a "clock" pin (so the controller can sync up the data stream
with the module). Would I need to get a clock module for the basic
stamp to talk to the display module? What would a good one be? Can you
build a reliable clock for less using a 555 timer? I as thinking about
how such a device might work without a clock and thought of a way to
do it with 2 lines output, 0-0 would mean no data, 0-1 would mean here
comes some data, 1-0 would mean low, 1-1 would mean high. The display
module would consist of a microcontroller with 2 inputs and 12 outputs
(3 groups of 4 outputs going to a 7-segment encoder IC to drive each
digit). Is this a decent solution or unnecessary? Any advice or links
to a good example would be appreciated... Thanks.

Save your cash, forget electronic toys, you will be starved.. Only buy what
you need. Take me for example, I am out of job, I have to post my fancy ad
at the bottom of my post every time. Go figure.



...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et moi
|
|
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Rat Bastard |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

America: Land of the Freedom Abusers, Because of the Bastards.

 

[Winfield]

lvwe...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello, I am now looking for an Operation Amplifer chip able to be a
voltage follower, which I need to use as a buffer between my sensor
circuit and the digitizer. Can anybody help me?

Since the output impedance of my sensor circuit is about 0.2 Gohm, the
follower needs to have a input impedance much higher than that (Maybe
a JFET one could work).

The input signal is always sinusoidal, with an amplitude = 1~2V, and a
variable frequency = 10KHz~1MHz, and the noise at the output is
required to be <1uV.

I tried AD712, but its bandwidth seems not enough for the 1MHz signal.
And the AD746 showed a terrible self-excitation as being used as a
follower.

The price would not be a problem if it is lower than 50 US$.

We'll ignore the difficulty of reconciling a 200M source
with a 1MHz bandwidth (what about capacitance?). Let me
suggest you evaluate the TI Burr-Brown OPA657 family.
These are JFET opamps with 1.6GHz bandwidth and 700V/us
slew rate -- that should be fast enough!

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news:fq7gu2$f6j$2@aioe.org...>
<mad.scientist.jr@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:822b2e22-260a-4ed7-ad34-3232bb35e76e@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

I need to display the numbers 0-255 in decimal on a 3-digit LED
display for a microcontroller project (it would need to be visible in
the dark). Ideally the display would be inexpensive and not take up
too many uC outputs, but what I am finding is expensive ($30 or more).
Does anyone make an inexpensive 3-digit 7-segment LED module that
accepts serial input from say, a PICAXE or a BASIC Stamp 2? Also I
haven't done anything using serial i/o yet but I saw some displays
that had a "clock" pin (so the controller can sync up the data stream
with the module). Would I need to get a clock module for the basic
stamp to talk to the display module? What would a good one be? Can you
build a reliable clock for less using a 555 timer? I as thinking about
how such a device might work without a clock and thought of a way to
do it with 2 lines output, 0-0 would mean no data, 0-1 would mean here
comes some data, 1-0 would mean low, 1-1 would mean high. The display
module would consist of a microcontroller with 2 inputs and 12 outputs
(3 groups of 4 outputs going to a 7-segment encoder IC to drive each
digit). Is this a decent solution or unnecessary? Any advice or links
to a good example would be appreciated... Thanks.

You sure ask a lot of questions for someone from New Jersey.

Save your cash, forget electronic toys, you will be starved. Only buy what
you need. Take me for example, I am out of job, I have to post my fancy ad
at the bottom of my post every time. Go figure.

Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems

Is that a joke?

Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

 

[Roger Hamlett]

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:59:20 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Pieter wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Pieter wrote:

The 8051 does not have an internal oscillator.

What do you mean ? It has an inverter stage designed for clock oscillator use
connected to pins xtal1 and xtal2.


No internal crystal. It has the inverter etc, but always needs an
external crystal. Of course you can also feed it with an external
oscillator.

Can you provide an example of any IC that has an internal crystal ?

Graham
Not crystals, but many of the small microcontrollers have trimmed RC

oscillators internally, allowing them to be used for 'low accuracy'
applications, without any external oscillator.
There have been a couple of hybrid chip modules marketted in the past
with crystals included, but I don't know if any currently offer this.

Best Wishes

 

[JW]

Hello all,

I'm trying to repair a F.W. Bell 9500 Gaussmeter that has a bad EL
display. There are several hundred dead pixels scattered all over the
viewing area, and looking at the panel under a microscope shows that there
are pock marks scattered all over on the aluminum substrate. This one's a
goner... Anyway, I'm unable to locate a replacement module, and emails to
the manufacturer of the instrument have gone unanswered so far. Does
anyone know of a drop-in replacement for one of these, or have one they
could part with? (I'd pay a good price!)

http://www.planar.com/products/docs/IBU/archive_manual/el/mn-planar-el240-64-sd.pdf

Thanks for any help.

 

[Eeyore]

Don Klipstein wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
GregS wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Arfa Daily wrote:

With a bit of work, I'm sure that they [LEDs] will
also get to the point where they can replace a standard filament bulb, in
the same sized package, unlike a CFL which has to accommodate the ballast.

To run LEDs efficiently from 240V AC will also require some active electronics.
I see no-one ever factors in the power losses that'll be associated with that.

When you use up the watts, you get heat. The lamp has to efficiently get
rid of it. May even need a fan.

Quite possibly so. How many watts does the fan need ?


In my experimental 45 watt, 9- 5 watt Luxeon array, I use copper, aluminum, and a fan.
DC drive is nice.

The normal home doesn't have DC. What do you use for current limiting
and how much power does that dissipate ?

Electronic ballasts for fluorescent lamps (including the ones in all
spiral and most other screw base CFLs) require DC, so require conversion
of AC to DC, and for that matter back to AC of a higher frequency. Many
of those don't have huge losses, in fact usually less loss than iron core
inductive ballasts.

I was asking about LED drivers not CFLs.

CFLs already include those losses in their stated power. LED fans only ever quote the DC
input power required for the 'chip'.

Talk about an uneven playing field !

Graham

 

[MooseFET]

"Wrecking Ball" <Buckley--fascists@crawford.net> wrote in message
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John McCain's Bizarre 'Conservative Problem'
Matt Taibbi, RollingStone.com
Election 2008: He's gone from laughingstock to presumptive nominee by
campaigning for World War III. So why do conservatives fear him?
It's the day before the Virginia primary, and darkness has fallen outside
the Aviation Museum in Richmond. Inside, presumptive Republican nominee
John
McCain stands proudly before a museum-exhibit version of his own A-4 Navy
jet fighter, plowing through the Poconos-stand-up portion of his stump
speech.

I've heard this shtick so many times by now that a kind of campaign
echolalia has kicked in -- I find myself involuntarily blurting out
McCain's
punch lines before he even starts a joke. At present, we're about two
minutes shy of a prison joke that ends with The food was a lot better in
here when you were governor!

I clench my teeth, bracing for impact. Behind me, a pair of aging Soccer
Moms in acrylic sweaters sing McCain's praises. "I can't even imagine
being
a prisoner of war," says Mom Number One. "It must be so hard."

"Yeah," agrees Number Two. "You know he won't surrender over there."

"Mm-hmm," says the first. Then, after a pause: "Oh, hey, you know what I
watched yesterday? Saving Private Ryan. And We Were Soldiers."

"Oh, those are great war movies," says Mom Number Two. "Great war movies."

Another pause. Then, "Oh, I went to that new buffet," says Mom Number One.
"The one with the salads. I have to say, I'm not that into sweetbreads."

I want to choke the life out of both of them. But how do you communicate
to
someone the sheer insanity of voting to bomb the fuck out of some distant
country while you sit safe and cozy in the Virginia suburbs, evaluating
sweetbreads -- just so the world can keep on feeling like the heroic war
movies you rock yourself to sleep with on Sunday afternoons?

The answer is you can't. And that is one big reason why John McCain,
defying
the expectations of almost everyone who watched him last summer -- myself
included -- has risen from the political dead to wrap up the GOP
nomination.
He's survived because Onward to Victory is the last great illusion the
Republican Party has left to sell in this country, even to its own
followers. They can't sell fiscal responsibility, they can't sell
"values,"
they can't sell competence, they can't sell small government, they can't
even sell the economy. All they have left to offer is this sad, dwindling,
knee-jerk patriotism, a promise to keep selling world politics as a
McHale's
Navy rerun to a Middle America that wants nothing to do with realizing the
world has changed since 1946.

The lesson of the McCain campaign is that one should never underestimate
America's capacity for self-delusion. Balls-deep in one of the biggest
foreign-policy catastrophes of all time, an arrogant military misadventure
destined to make us infamous for a generation across a dozen cultures,
minivan-driving suburban America is still waiting for Bill Holden to make
it
right by blowing up the Bridge on the River Kwai -- and returning, tanned
and handsome, to get the girl with a mouth full of cool one-liners.

I scoot away from the Moms, knowing I can't win any argument here. McCain,
meanwhile, is wrapping up the tale of an old soldier who trained a monkey
to
take his place on the front lines during World War II.

"So I said to him, 'I can see why you weren't promoted,' " says McCain.
"And
he says, 'That's not what made me mad. The monkey retired as an admiral!'
"

The audience roars with laughter. We'll lick this Iraq thing yet!

According to current political wisdom, John McCain is "controversial"
among
Republicans because he lacks true conservative credentials. His main
offenses, ostensibly, are a smattering of domestic-policy positions that
defy the GOP's Limbaugh-Hannity orthodoxy: He took a public stand against
the Spanish Inquisition, he shared a room with Ted Kennedy for a few hours
to fashion a failed immigration bill, he passed a roundly criticized
campaign-finance-reform bill, he accidentally deemed the Bush tax cuts
insane out loud before realizing that this was a political error.

From the battering that McCain is taking lately from the likes of Limbaugh
and skanky bitch-whore Ann Coulter, who vowed to campaign for Hillary if
McCain gets the nomination, one wouldn't know that most of his supposed
crimes were actually based on conservative principles. His opposition to
the
tax cuts, for instance, was based on fiscal responsibility -- i.e., a
desire
to avoid slashing revenues during a period of both high national debt and
massive military spending ("I don't remember ever in the history of
warfare
when we cut taxes"). Only a Bush Republican would call insisting on
actually
having money before you spend it a lack of "true conservatism."

Next page ť
http://www.alternet.org/election08/78024/?page=2

I don't think that McCain has a conservative problem. He has a problem
with
the TurdBlossom mentality that flourished during the George W. Bush
presidency. I wouldn't call people like Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, or
Ann
Coulter conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. What makes the
TurdBlossom mentality truly dangerous are Erik Prince with his Blackwater
"security" contractors who will do anything to continue to control the
White
House.

McCain is so stupid in his word game. He can't beat a Black man. Every one
is being affected by the BUSH's Stupidity and you still want the same thing
back idiot?........Ain't that COOL your so-called "Freedom" ? At the
grocery Stores & Gas pumps?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Lostgallifreyan wrote:

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in
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"Patrick - townt.com"

Thank. We have order the part from US already.


** Good on ya - pal !!

Only the finest counterfiets are sold by professional scumbag parts
brokers
in the USA.

Good ol' Yankee Know How !!!

Pts any dumb, top posting, Chink like you to shame any time.



..... Phil

Tragic. Touching faith nonetheless, considering they stopped casting bit
parts for Romper Stomper nearly 20 years ago.

FYI, "Patrick' is a parts broker and long time spammer in Hong Kong.


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William Sommerwerck wrote:

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I need to display the numbers 0-255 in decimal on a 3-digit LED
display for a microcontroller project (it would need to be visible in
the dark). Ideally the display would be inexpensive and not take up
too many uC outputs, but what I am finding is expensive ($30 or more).
Does anyone make an inexpensive 3-digit 7-segment LED module that
accepts serial input from say, a PICAXE or a BASIC Stamp 2? Also I
haven't done anything using serial i/o yet but I saw some displays
that had a "clock" pin (so the controller can sync up the data stream
with the module). Would I need to get a clock module for the basic
stamp to talk to the display module? What would a good one be? Can you
build a reliable clock for less using a 555 timer? I as thinking about
how such a device might work without a clock and thought of a way to
do it with 2 lines output, 0-0 would mean no data, 0-1 would mean here
comes some data, 1-0 would mean low, 1-1 would mean high. The display
module would consist of a microcontroller with 2 inputs and 12 outputs
(3 groups of 4 outputs going to a 7-segment encoder IC to drive each
digit). Is this a decent solution or unnecessary? Any advice or links
to a good example would be appreciated... Thanks.

You sure ask a lot of questions for someone from New Jersey.

Save your cash, forget electronic toys, you will be starved. Only buy what
you need. Take me for example, I am out of job, I have to post my fancy ad
at the bottom of my post every time. Go figure.

Analog/Mixed-Signal ASICK's and Discrete Systems

Is that a joke?

Why has no one ever pointed out that ASICs are actually AN-SICs?

Becasue ahe troll forging post as Jim thompson doesn't know what
you're talking about.


Jim post though cox, not aioe.org.

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