Apple have stolen my ipad. Yes, this story now has an ending

[F Murtz]

nospam wrote:

In article <dobv2sF17n3U1@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

3. You can't be asked to provide proof of ownership, unless the entity
which is asking can and does provide information which justifies
their suspicion that the item might be stolen.

apple's suspicion was fully justified.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

4. There are no requirements for what must be on a receipt (other than
item, price and date).

a serial number is required, otherwise it doesn't prove anything at all.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

5. The killer: The request to unlock was *not* for the device, but for
the *Apple ID*.

the device is tied to the apple id. without the apple id password, the
device is locked.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

The Apple ID had Don's company name in it, so there
was no doubt that the ID was his.

it could easily have been compromised.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

 

[Rod Speed]

"nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:270420161802467540%nospam@nospam.invalid...

In article <doarpqFqadmU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

try calling your bank and telling them that you forgot your password
and have no idea what the security questions are. see how well that
works out.

That would work out great! I would have a new 'password' [1] in a
couple of days.

not when you can't access the email you used with the bank, you won't.

Wrong, as always. Someone I know got into that situation
with their phone banking and all they had to do was provide
some evidence that it was their phone banking account and
the bank was happy to reset their password.

All that took was to spell out the detail of some
things that had been done on that account recently.

just like don had to provide evidence that it's his ipad.

He did that right from the start and the fuckwits
at the call center refused to accept that.

 

[F Murtz]

Lewis wrote:

In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

>

 

[3899jk]

"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni2fjp.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...

In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have
to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?

Where it says that when some operation provides a service,
in this case the update to iOS, and the provision of that
service prevents the device that was being used before
the provision of that service, after that service has been
provided, that the operation providing that service has
to fix the problem.

>> Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

 

[F Murtz]

nospam wrote:

In article <doc1noF1pnfU1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A
wrote:

Blaming others for your shortcomings won't get you very far in life.
That's a cold, hard fact of life.

Won't get far in life, yes you are quite correct Rolly Dodger.

I started my first electronics business 1n 1964, aged 21

I retired from my last electronics business 3 years ago, aged 70.

There was a lot of shit in between, but I'll ignore that.

I have 3 great grand children.

Please tell me, what have you done with your life?

wtf does any of that have to do with not remembering a password?

Everything to do with whether he would get very far in life, fuckwit.

Nospam, you accused me of not getting very far in life.

i did no such thing.

starting off with a lie is not going to help your cause.

What this has to do
with remembering passwords I have no idea,

you tell me. you brought up your life story.

what the hell does starting your electronics business in 1964 have to
do with forgetting your password in 2016?

not a thing.

all it means is you're 73 years old and likely has early onset
dementia, which explains your inability to remember stuff.

but it is your accusation, not mine. I give you a very quick rundown on my
current life position, and I ask you to do
the same seeing you made this personal accusation against me in the first
place, and you completely bomb out.

Suggest if you spent more time trying to help others, and making a life for
yourself, instead of acting like a fool on
these forums, the world would be a much better place.

if you spent more time taking responsibility for your own actions and
not trying to scam others, the world will be a better place.

How come you spend so much time on these forums? Don't you have a job?

Me, I'm retired. I have plenty of time to spend here.

more likely it's because you're unemployable due to your shit memory.

BTW
Read: http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm
that will give you a lot more stones to throw at me. Yes twist the truth as
much as you need to suit your own version of
the story. It doesn't matter when you are hiding your identity.

i'm going by what *you* wrote.

Why do not you just give up with your monotonous crap which had
absolutely no influence on the inevitable result, which was always a
forgone conclusion.

 

[Rod Speed]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:57214bca$0$4553$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com...

nospam wrote:
In article <doc1noF1pnfU1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A
wrote:

Blaming others for your shortcomings won't get you very far in life.
That's a cold, hard fact of life.

Won't get far in life, yes you are quite correct Rolly Dodger.

I started my first electronics business 1n 1964, aged 21

I retired from my last electronics business 3 years ago, aged 70.

There was a lot of shit in between, but I'll ignore that.

I have 3 great grand children.

Please tell me, what have you done with your life?

wtf does any of that have to do with not remembering a password?

Everything to do with whether he would get very far in life, fuckwit.

Nospam, you accused me of not getting very far in life.

i did no such thing.

starting off with a lie is not going to help your cause.

What this has to do
with remembering passwords I have no idea,

you tell me. you brought up your life story.

what the hell does starting your electronics business in 1964 have to
do with forgetting your password in 2016?

not a thing.

all it means is you're 73 years old and likely has early onset
dementia, which explains your inability to remember stuff.

but it is your accusation, not mine. I give you a very quick rundown on
my
current life position, and I ask you to do
the same seeing you made this personal accusation against me in the
first
place, and you completely bomb out.

Suggest if you spent more time trying to help others, and making a life
for
yourself, instead of acting like a fool on
these forums, the world would be a much better place.

if you spent more time taking responsibility for your own actions and
not trying to scam others, the world will be a better place.

How come you spend so much time on these forums? Don't you have a job?

Me, I'm retired. I have plenty of time to spend here.

more likely it's because you're unemployable due to your shit memory.

BTW
Read: http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm
that will give you a lot more stones to throw at me. Yes twist the truth
as
much as you need to suit your own version of
the story. It doesn't matter when you are hiding your identity.

i'm going by what *you* wrote.

Why do not you just give up with your monotonous crap which had
absolutely no influence on the inevitable result, which was always a
forgone conclusion.

He's too stupid to even notice that when you have a dug a fucking
great hole for yourself, the only viable option is to STOP DIGGING.

 

[Jolly Roger]

On 2016-04-27, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

nospam wrote:
In article <dobv2sF17n3U1@mid.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg
this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

3. You can't be asked to provide proof of ownership, unless the entity
which is asking can and does provide information which justifies
their suspicion that the item might be stolen.

apple's suspicion was fully justified.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It was unlocked only *after* proof of ownership was provided.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

 

[Lewis]

In message <572144fe$0$4506$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lewis wrote:
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni0dai.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It is unlocked because the owner was able to provide a valid receipt
with a serial number, and for no other reason.

--
Nobody puts one over on Fred C. Dobbs.

 

[Lewis]

In message <docutaF7tl1U1@mid.individual.net>
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:

"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni2fjp.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni0dai.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have
to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?

Where it says that when some operation provides a service,
in this case the update to iOS, and the provision of that
service prevents the device that was being used before
the provision of that service, after that service has been
provided, that the operation providing that service has
to fix the problem.

You are extremely confused.

But go ahead, try to get Apple to unlock your iOS device without
providing proof of ownership.

We'll wait.

--
Stone circles were common enough everywhere in the mountains. Druids
built them as weather computers, and since it was always cheaper to
build a new 33-Megalith circle than to upgrade an old slow one, there
were generally plenty of ancient ones around --Lords and Ladies

 

[Lewis]

In message <57214bca$0$4553$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

nospam wrote:
In article <doc1noF1pnfU1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A
wrote:

Blaming others for your shortcomings won't get you very far in life.
That's a cold, hard fact of life.

Won't get far in life, yes you are quite correct Rolly Dodger.

I started my first electronics business 1n 1964, aged 21

I retired from my last electronics business 3 years ago, aged 70.

There was a lot of shit in between, but I'll ignore that.

I have 3 great grand children.

Please tell me, what have you done with your life?

wtf does any of that have to do with not remembering a password?

Everything to do with whether he would get very far in life, fuckwit.

Nospam, you accused me of not getting very far in life.

i did no such thing.

starting off with a lie is not going to help your cause.

What this has to do
with remembering passwords I have no idea,

you tell me. you brought up your life story.

what the hell does starting your electronics business in 1964 have to
do with forgetting your password in 2016?

not a thing.

all it means is you're 73 years old and likely has early onset
dementia, which explains your inability to remember stuff.

but it is your accusation, not mine. I give you a very quick rundown on my
current life position, and I ask you to do
the same seeing you made this personal accusation against me in the first
place, and you completely bomb out.

Suggest if you spent more time trying to help others, and making a life for
yourself, instead of acting like a fool on
these forums, the world would be a much better place.

if you spent more time taking responsibility for your own actions and
not trying to scam others, the world will be a better place.

How come you spend so much time on these forums? Don't you have a job?

Me, I'm retired. I have plenty of time to spend here.

more likely it's because you're unemployable due to your shit memory.

BTW
Read: http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm
that will give you a lot more stones to throw at me. Yes twist the truth as
much as you need to suit your own version of
the story. It doesn't matter when you are hiding your identity.

i'm going by what *you* wrote.

Why do not you just give up with your monotonous crap which had
absolutely no influence on the inevitable result, which was always a
forgone conclusion.

As I suggested to the other moron, go ahead and try to get Apple to
unlock your iOS device without proving proof of ownership.

You are so confident, it should be no problem at all.

--
When the routine bites hard / and ambitions are low And the resentment
rides high / but emotions won't grow And we're changing our ways, /
taking different roads Then love, love will tear us apart again

 

[F Murtz]

Lewis wrote:

In message <57214bca$0$4553$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
nospam wrote:
In article <doc1noF1pnfU1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A
wrote:

Blaming others for your shortcomings won't get you very far in life.
That's a cold, hard fact of life.

Won't get far in life, yes you are quite correct Rolly Dodger.

I started my first electronics business 1n 1964, aged 21

I retired from my last electronics business 3 years ago, aged 70.

There was a lot of shit in between, but I'll ignore that.

I have 3 great grand children.

Please tell me, what have you done with your life?

wtf does any of that have to do with not remembering a password?

Everything to do with whether he would get very far in life, fuckwit.

Nospam, you accused me of not getting very far in life.

i did no such thing.

starting off with a lie is not going to help your cause.

What this has to do
with remembering passwords I have no idea,

you tell me. you brought up your life story.

what the hell does starting your electronics business in 1964 have to
do with forgetting your password in 2016?

not a thing.

all it means is you're 73 years old and likely has early onset
dementia, which explains your inability to remember stuff.

but it is your accusation, not mine. I give you a very quick rundown on my
current life position, and I ask you to do
the same seeing you made this personal accusation against me in the first
place, and you completely bomb out.

Suggest if you spent more time trying to help others, and making a life for
yourself, instead of acting like a fool on
these forums, the world would be a much better place.

if you spent more time taking responsibility for your own actions and
not trying to scam others, the world will be a better place.

How come you spend so much time on these forums? Don't you have a job?

Me, I'm retired. I have plenty of time to spend here.

more likely it's because you're unemployable due to your shit memory.

BTW
Read: http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm
that will give you a lot more stones to throw at me. Yes twist the truth as
much as you need to suit your own version of
the story. It doesn't matter when you are hiding your identity.

i'm going by what *you* wrote.

Why do not you just give up with your monotonous crap which had
absolutely no influence on the inevitable result, which was always a
forgone conclusion.

As I suggested to the other moron, go ahead and try to get Apple to
unlock your iOS device without proving proof of ownership.

You are so confident, it should be no problem at all.

You lot seem to be deficient in the brain department, he had many,not
only one, different proofs of ownership from the beginning, the only
thing was he forgot the original sign on detail which thousands of
people do all the time with no problem resulting..

 

[F Murtz]

Lewis wrote:

In message <572144fe$0$4506$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni0dai.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It is unlocked because the owner was able to provide a valid receipt
with a serial number, and for no other reason.

He would not have needed the serial no

 

[F Murtz]

Lewis wrote:

In message <572144fe$0$4506$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni0dai.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It is unlocked because the owner was able to provide a valid receipt
with a serial number, and for no other reason.

On the reciept that is.

 

[3899jk]

"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni5bkg.1262.g.kreme@amelia.local...

In message <docutaF7tl1U1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni2fjp.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
news:slrnni0dai.ktn.g.kreme@amelia.local...
In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts,
to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have
to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple
to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?

Where it says that when some operation provides a service,
in this case the update to iOS, and the provision of that
service prevents the device that was being used before
the provision of that service, after that service has been
provided, that the operation providing that service has
to fix the problem.

You are extremely confused.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

But go ahead, try to get Apple to unlock your iOS
device without providing proof of ownership.

He always had proof of ownership.

 

[Lewis]

In message <5722c3e7$0$28830$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lewis wrote:
In message <57214bca$0$4553$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
nospam wrote:
In article <doc1noF1pnfU1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A
wrote:

Blaming others for your shortcomings won't get you very far in life.
That's a cold, hard fact of life.

Won't get far in life, yes you are quite correct Rolly Dodger.

I started my first electronics business 1n 1964, aged 21

I retired from my last electronics business 3 years ago, aged 70.

There was a lot of shit in between, but I'll ignore that.

I have 3 great grand children.

Please tell me, what have you done with your life?

wtf does any of that have to do with not remembering a password?

Everything to do with whether he would get very far in life, fuckwit.

Nospam, you accused me of not getting very far in life.

i did no such thing.

starting off with a lie is not going to help your cause.

What this has to do
with remembering passwords I have no idea,

you tell me. you brought up your life story.

what the hell does starting your electronics business in 1964 have to
do with forgetting your password in 2016?

not a thing.

all it means is you're 73 years old and likely has early onset
dementia, which explains your inability to remember stuff.

but it is your accusation, not mine. I give you a very quick rundown on my
current life position, and I ask you to do
the same seeing you made this personal accusation against me in the first
place, and you completely bomb out.

Suggest if you spent more time trying to help others, and making a life for
yourself, instead of acting like a fool on
these forums, the world would be a much better place.

if you spent more time taking responsibility for your own actions and
not trying to scam others, the world will be a better place.

How come you spend so much time on these forums? Don't you have a job?

Me, I'm retired. I have plenty of time to spend here.

more likely it's because you're unemployable due to your shit memory.

BTW
Read: http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm
that will give you a lot more stones to throw at me. Yes twist the truth as
much as you need to suit your own version of
the story. It doesn't matter when you are hiding your identity.

i'm going by what *you* wrote.

Why do not you just give up with your monotonous crap which had
absolutely no influence on the inevitable result, which was always a
forgone conclusion.

As I suggested to the other moron, go ahead and try to get Apple to
unlock your iOS device without proving proof of ownership.

You are so confident, it should be no problem at all.

You lot seem to be deficient in the brain department, he had many,not
only one, different proofs of ownership from the beginning,

No, he had exactly *zero* until he provided the second receipt.

--
what was supposed to be so special about a full moon? It was only a big
circle of light. And the dark of the moon was only darkness. But
half-way between the two, when the moon was between the worlds of light
and dark, when even the moon lived on the edge... maybe then a witch
could believe in the moon. --Witches Abroad

 

[Lewis]

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3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:

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"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts,
to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have
to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple
to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?

Where it says that when some operation provides a service,
in this case the update to iOS, and the provision of that
service prevents the device that was being used before
the provision of that service, after that service has been
provided, that the operation providing that service has
to fix the problem.

You are extremely confused.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

You are the word's dumbest troll.

But go ahead, try to get Apple to unlock your iOS
device without providing proof of ownership.

He always had proof of ownership.

Nope, he did not.

--
'Tell me, sir Samuel, do you know the phrase "Quis custodiet isos
custodes?"? (...) It means "Who guards the guards themselves?" (...) Who
watches the Watch?' --Feet of Clay

 

[Lewis]

In message <5722c425$0$28830$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com>
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Lewis wrote:
In message <572144fe$0$4506$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It is unlocked because the owner was able to provide a valid receipt
with a serial number, and for no other reason.

He would not have needed the serial no

He *DID* need a valid receipt with a serial number. His original receipt
was rejected and he was told he had to provide another one. Despite all
your blustering, it was not until after this second receipt was
submitted that Apple did anything, and even then they did not unlock the
previous iCloud account, they simply removed the activation lock on the
iPad so he could set it up with a new account.


--
Say, give it up, give it up, television's taking its toll That's enough,
that's enough, gimme the remote control I've been nice, I've been good,
please don't do this to me Turn it off, turn it off, I don't want to
have to see

 

[3899jk]

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F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
In message <doasl3FqgdgU1@mid.individual.net
3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts,
to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have
to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple
to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It is unlocked because the owner was able to provide a valid receipt
with a serial number, and for no other reason.

Obvious lie. Fuck all who get an iphone used would have a valid
receipt with a serial number on it.

 

[F Murtz]

Lewis wrote:

In message <5722c3e7$0$28830$c3e8da3$88b277c5@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
In message <57214bca$0$4553$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
nospam wrote:
In article <doc1noF1pnfU1@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A
wrote:

Blaming others for your shortcomings won't get you very far in life.
That's a cold, hard fact of life.

Won't get far in life, yes you are quite correct Rolly Dodger.

I started my first electronics business 1n 1964, aged 21

I retired from my last electronics business 3 years ago, aged 70.

There was a lot of shit in between, but I'll ignore that.

I have 3 great grand children.

Please tell me, what have you done with your life?

wtf does any of that have to do with not remembering a password?

Everything to do with whether he would get very far in life, fuckwit.

Nospam, you accused me of not getting very far in life.

i did no such thing.

starting off with a lie is not going to help your cause.

What this has to do
with remembering passwords I have no idea,

you tell me. you brought up your life story.

what the hell does starting your electronics business in 1964 have to
do with forgetting your password in 2016?

not a thing.

all it means is you're 73 years old and likely has early onset
dementia, which explains your inability to remember stuff.

but it is your accusation, not mine. I give you a very quick rundown on my
current life position, and I ask you to do
the same seeing you made this personal accusation against me in the first
place, and you completely bomb out.

Suggest if you spent more time trying to help others, and making a life for
yourself, instead of acting like a fool on
these forums, the world would be a much better place.

if you spent more time taking responsibility for your own actions and
not trying to scam others, the world will be a better place.

How come you spend so much time on these forums? Don't you have a job?

Me, I'm retired. I have plenty of time to spend here.

more likely it's because you're unemployable due to your shit memory.

BTW
Read: http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm
that will give you a lot more stones to throw at me. Yes twist the truth as
much as you need to suit your own version of
the story. It doesn't matter when you are hiding your identity.

i'm going by what *you* wrote.

Why do not you just give up with your monotonous crap which had
absolutely no influence on the inevitable result, which was always a
forgone conclusion.

As I suggested to the other moron, go ahead and try to get Apple to
unlock your iOS device without proving proof of ownership.

You are so confident, it should be no problem at all.

You lot seem to be deficient in the brain department, he had many,not
only one, different proofs of ownership from the beginning,

No, he had exactly *zero* until he provided the second receipt.

Complete and utter crap which would have been proven if it went before a
court of law.

 

[F Murtz]

Lewis wrote:

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F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
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F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Lewis wrote:
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3899jk <3899jk@gmail.com> wrote:


"Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message
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In message <57200db8$0$4557$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com
F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Don McKenzie wrote:

for the people that want to keep changing the facts on my receipts, to
suit their own version of the story:

http://www.dontronics.com/apple.htm

Cheers Don...


Glad it is working, it was a forgone conclusion that Apple would have to
fix it,

Not at all. No where on the planet is there a law that compels Apple to
unlock a device without proof of ownership.

Wrong.
https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees/consumer-guarantees

Where does it say Apple has to unlock a device that someone has
forgotten their password for?
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

Oh right, NO WHERE.

Neither "password" nor "unlock" appears anywhere on that page.

it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED
Says absolutely NOTHING about proof of ownership.

Says absolutely nothing about unlocking or bypassing passwords.
it is unlocked not withstanding all your crap, QED

It is unlocked because the owner was able to provide a valid receipt
with a serial number, and for no other reason.

He would not have needed the serial no

He *DID* need a valid receipt with a serial number. His original receipt
was rejected and he was told he had to provide another one. Despite all
your blustering, it was not until after this second receipt was
submitted that Apple did anything, and even then they did not unlock the
previous iCloud account, they simply removed the activation lock on the
iPad so he could set it up with a new account.

He does NOT need a receipt with a serial number on it, he WOULD need to
produce the serial number however.