Adding missing SATA connectors to motherboard

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:24:29 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:08:06 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:41:30 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:58:03 -0800 (PST), bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:

No you don't. You would be put in prison for assualt if you did.


You wouldn't see it coming, and the only evidence of the event you would
have are your bruises. I would walk in, greeting everyone the next day,
as normal. You would likely not report the places I'd bruise you.
Also...

Your word isn't good enough. You need a witness.

Hmm. Threatening physical violence. In past trolls you
attempted to claim there's nothing illegal about your
trolling. Care to take another guess?


I think you need to review the context of the thread you retarded
little motherless bastard.

I have not threatened anyone, you stupid, illiterate fucktard!

Really?

Now, run off, and make your wussy boy claims that I broke some law and
see where it gets you, pussy.

Getting defensive are we?

Me declaring what I do to retarded twits "like you", and me saying "I
WILL SMACK so-and-so." are two different things.

Oh? Then why did you bother writing anything???

Now guess which one of the above I DID write, and which one I never
said at all, you stupid little piece of shit?

Your mother should be jailed as a felon for the crime of not flushing
your retarded ass the moment she shat you out of here retarded ass.

At what point did you not grasp that around roughly the
1000th time you wrote something like this, nobody would see
it as anything other than thrashing around in desperation?

How's that for off-the-x-axis, you goddamned accusatory fucking punk?!

You lied previously, you're not even half my age.

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:18:18 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

Did it ever occur to you that you have been in-the-barrel since you
mouthed off, dumbfuck?

Really? Because you say so? LOL

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:26:18 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:09:24 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:


You don't seem to know much then.


I have decades more experience and knowledge than you do.

So you know how old I am?

You sure as hell don't have more experience soldering a mere
connector onto a PCB if you think THIS is hard.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jamie wrote:

Archimedes' Lever wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:00:08 -0500, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:


Eeyore wrote:


Archimedes' Lever wrote:



I know more about soldering and connections between metals than you
ever will.


Jolly Good for you. I doubt you know much else.

Graham


You're opening your self up for a big one Graham, get prepared
for the aftermath.



You're both spewing more shit into the group than I ever have.

Donkey ass, with his less-than-peanut-gallery commentary, and you, with
your retarded link-to-self on each post. You're a joke.

You're both pretty fucking pathetic.

Thank you.

Your comments are duly noted and dropped into the suggestion box.

Have a horrible day, and may it rain on your parade.
-

May your head explode from your continuing hatred.


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On Jan 12, 9:41 pm, Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org>
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:58:03 -0800 (PST), buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
No you don't.  You would be put in prison for assualt if you did.

 You wouldn't see it coming, and the only evidence of the event you would
have are your bruises.  I would walk in, greeting everyone the next day,
as normal.  You would likely not report the places I'd bruise you.
Also...

  Your word isn't good enough.  You need a witness.

You were almost getting off the x-axis. But the gravitational pull is
just too great for you to break free of the x-axis (You do remeber x-
axis from junior high math? if not I can explain to you)

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:19:49 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

Oh, you mean you bought something as an end-user, and claim
that's knowledge, but you still can't wrap your head around
soldering a mere connector onto a PCB.

I used to make 7000 connections a day, and my work looks like that of a
machine. My soldering is easily an order of magnitude better than yours.
My knowledge of rework and retrofit procedures as well.

It's quite ridiculous.

You ridicule yourself.

This is a very simple soldering job
that you've blown out of proportion.

No. It is MORE than a mere soldering job, as I stated in my original
reply, which you likely did not read.

Ok, you made a mistake
underestimating the ability of people who have held a
soldering iron.

No. I have seen banks of dumb fuckheads like you that claim to be good,
but fail miserably when hundreds of thousands of dollars of company
assets are at stake. I have personally beat out a crew of 50 such
assholes for a chip removal task where their standard lab boys were
scraping pads. That was a $10M+ rework effort.

It's like billiards. You have to know a little bit about the nitty
gritty to be able to do the really tricky shots.

You, and nitty gritty have never met.

That part was not such a big deal but
continuing to insist you are right contrary to common sense?

You're an idiot. Your grasp of common sense would fit on the tip of a
molecular probe.

It's just amazing.

I'd even bet you don't know what *that* word means.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:19:49 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

Besides that,
if the chipset supported the addt'l ports, and once the OP
had the needed capacitors, it was a 4 to 10 minute job.

Doesn't matter if the chipset has it if the BIOS doesn't dumbass.

 

On Jan 12, 9:46 pm, buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

On Jan 12, 9:41 pm, Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:58:03 -0800 (PST), buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
No you don't.  You would be put in prison for assualt if you did.

 You wouldn't see it coming, and the only evidence of the event you would
have are your bruises.  I would walk in, greeting everyone the next day,
as normal.  You would likely not report the places I'd bruise you.
Also...

  Your word isn't good enough.  You need a witness.

You were almost getting off the x-axis.  But the gravitational pull is
just too great for you to break free of the x-axis (You do remeber x-
axis from junior high math? if not I can explain to you)

Actually, I think I may have overestimated you. Your insults are more
like a point. OK, maybe a very short line segment. Ha ha.

Seriously, dude, I have never seen such a wannabee for a long time.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:31:58 -0800 (PST), bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:

I see why you come to this board.

THIS THREAD WAS CROSSPOSTED, you retarded fuck!

You do not see a goddamned thing. OBVIOUSLY!

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:31:58 -0800 (PST), bulegoge@columbus.rr.com wrote:

You
need more tools in your insult box.

Your E-1 grade, pussy boy assessments are as petty as everything else
you have thus far spewed forth with.

Stew in that... all by yourself.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:38:46 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

You lied previously, you're not even half my age.

Are you 86?

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:46:13 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Archimedes' Lever wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:00:08 -0500, Jamie
jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:


Eeyore wrote:


Archimedes' Lever wrote:



I know more about soldering and connections between metals than you
ever will.


Jolly Good for you. I doubt you know much else.

Graham


You're opening your self up for a big one Graham, get prepared
for the aftermath.



You're both spewing more shit into the group than I ever have.

Donkey ass, with his less-than-peanut-gallery commentary, and you, with
your retarded link-to-self on each post. You're a joke.

You're both pretty fucking pathetic.

Thank you.

Your comments are duly noted and dropped into the suggestion box.

Have a horrible day, and may it rain on your parade.
-


May your head explode from your continuing hatred.

Hey, at least I got the dope to strip that stupid link away.

 

On Jan 12, 9:51 pm, The Great Attractor
<Sup...@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalaxy.org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:58:03 -0800 (PST), buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

Great Insult!  Try going into the complex plane for a few insults
though - ok?

 I ALSO know more about fractals and chaos than you do.  I know right
where a little twit like you resides at in the Mandlebrot set.

I see you know how to assume multiple identities on USENET. My
estimation of you just went up a notch.

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:27:13 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 01:57:20 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:06:31 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com
wrote:

Here's an example with an ECS GeForce 6100SM-M v. 1.0 motherboard:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3397/3184157863_64b349938d_o.jpg


snip

I don't have an nForce /4xx series board available to check
it, but checking an old A7N8X board that uses a Silicon
Image SATA controller, it has the SATA data pins coupled
directly to the chip inputs with a 2200pF ceramic chip
capacitor in series.

The picture linked above is a little high in contrast so
it's hard to tell but might those empty spots be
corresponding to capacitors on the adjacent used SATA spots?
Further, if you can trace these data lines to the chipset,
are there unused surface mount pads adjacent to it?


I must be blind, upon looking at the picture again obviously
what I was thinking of is supposed to be capacitors as
marked with the C(nnn) silkscreening but now I wonder if you
were looking at the resistor, R(nn) silkscreened positions
above the SATA port in the pictures. They don't seem to be
for SATA?


Ever thought about tracing the local circuitry with a DVM? D'OH!

Actually, I did trace the circuit and also reported what I
measured in a separate post, but on a board I have that is
not the same make and model as his, and if you are familiar
with the extreme economizing ECS often does on their boards,
you would then realize that what is normal is not always to
be taken for granted when ECS is involved.

However, taking measurements with a DVM is a bit less simple
than that in many instances since the parts are still
in-circuit, potentially still in parallel or series with
other parts unless one starts desoldering each one or can
read and decipher the markings with a magnifying glass.

However, on my other post where I listed capacitance values
I am fairly confident there was not need as one end of the
circuit was open at the SATA connector itself. This is
where working with multi-layer boards becomes more complex,
tracing a dense circuit enough to follow it within a
reasonable amount of time, not merely soldering a connector
or SMD cap on the board.

Especially useful at the unpopulated areas for schematesizing the work
in progress. Pretty much leaves out all doubt.

A schematic leaves no doubt... if we can assume it was
followed. Otherwise there are several hints but the first
step is the one not so hard to do, put the port on the board
after populating the missing cap locations with parts
mirroring those on the other implemented ports.

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:25:31 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:09:24 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:


Funny, I always thought that if it worked that was proof.


Typical dumbfuck with a soldering iron remark. You crank up the temp
control too, 'eh?

You are one predictable dipshit, boy.

You mean that you already knew you were wrong so the proof
was inevitable?

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:26:18 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:09:24 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:


You don't seem to know much then.


I have decades more experience and knowledge than you do.

At trolling, farting, or looking like an idiot?

How many decades? You must think the average usenet
participant is 20 years old. Maybe in '75. Try again, it's
pretty unlikely the average age around here is even 10 years
your junior, all the kids use the web instead of usenet.

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:53:32 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:38:46 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:


You lied previously, you're not even half my age.


Are you 86?

If you are 86 then your prior threats of violence are funny
as hell.

However, we are in a unique situation with modern
electronics, you were not working with multilayer surface
mount (anything, including SATA ports) for the first half of
your life so you might as well cut your age almost in half
when trying to claim experience in this topic.

Come to think of it, there was very little that had more
than 2 layers before '80, so if that is where your supposed
experience comes from, suddenly it all starts to make sense.

Pick up a soldering iron and see what you can do, you are
not too old to learn new tricks (if you pull your head out
of your ass long enough to actually try). In China people
walk in off the streets and do more complex soldering after
a few weeks training.

 

[kony]

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:48:21 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:19:49 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

Besides that,
if the chipset supported the addt'l ports, and once the OP
had the needed capacitors, it was a 4 to 10 minute job.


Doesn't matter if the chipset has it if the BIOS doesn't dumbass.

How little you know about modular bios.

Find a different board with the same set of chips and you
don't even have to use the same bios! There are also tools
to reenable hidden features. They do not write a custom
bios for every board that has only minor changes, they just
add or subtract modules and hide features.

What you are failing to grasp is why the OP suspected the
mod was possible, because he, and I, and others, have
already seen and done such things in the past.

 

On Jan 12, 10:14 pm, Spurious Response
<SpuriousRespo...@cleansignal.org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:55:08 -0800 (PST), buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Jan 12, 9:51 pm, The Great Attractor
Sup...@ssiveBlackHoleAtTheCenterOfTheMilkyWayGalaxy.org> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:58:03 -0800 (PST), buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

Great Insult!  Try going into the complex plane for a few insults
though - ok?

 I ALSO know more about fractals and chaos than you do.  I know right
where a little twit like you resides at in the Mandlebrot set.

I see you know how to assume multiple identities on USENET.  My
estimation of you just went up a notch.

 I figured you were too stupid to actually see the connection between the
nym and the last remarks.

  You really are too retarded for my time, turkey.

I don't really need to look at the name. Your writing here is very
distinctive. And did I mention, very one dimensional?

I would not be talking to me if I could be making $200/hour doing real
work.

 

On Jan 12, 10:24 pm, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:08:06 -0500, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:41:30 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLe...@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:58:03 -0800 (PST), buleg...@columbus.rr.com wrote:

No you don't.  You would be put in prison for assualt if you did.

You wouldn't see it coming, and the only evidence of the event you would
have are your bruises.  I would walk in, greeting everyone the next day,
as normal.  You would likely not report the places I'd bruise you.
Also...

 Your word isn't good enough.  You need a witness.

Hmm.  Threatening physical violence.  In past trolls you
attempted to claim there's nothing illegal about your
trolling.  Care to take another guess?  

  I think you need to review the context of the thread you retarded
little motherless bastard.

  I have not threatened anyone, you stupid, illiterate fucktard!

  Now, run off, and make your wussy boy claims that I broke some law and
see where it gets you, pussy.

  Me declaring what I do to retarded twits "like you", and me saying "I
WILL SMACK so-and-so." are two different things.

  Now guess which one of the above I DID write, and which one I never
said at all, you stupid little piece of shit?

  Your mother should be jailed as a felon for the crime of not flushing
your retarded ass the moment she shat you out of here retarded ass.

  How's that for off-the-x-axis, you goddamned accusatory fucking punk?!- Hide quoted text -

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I see why you come to this board. I do admire that you need to
improve your insults, and your realization that by surrounding
yourself with bright people it might raise your level up to. But
dude, you really have to work harder, and drop all the crass
language. It is like loading up a stew with 25 cups of salt. You
need more tools in your insult box.

You know the saying:

When all you have is a hammer , then every problem is a nail.

You have been doing this trolling bit for how long? And this is all
you have. Man you suck! I have met trolls that do better than you
after about 1 month of posting on usenet.