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On 2/22/2022 8:14 AM, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 2:53:12 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 12:45 AM, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:08:26 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/21/2022 10:55 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 10:30:02 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/21/2022 7:55 PM, amdx wrote:
On 2/21/2022 4:47 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 21. februar 2022 kl. 23.19.27 UTC+1 skrev bitrex:
On 2/21/2022 1:04 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Feb 2022 15:31:02 -0800 (PST)) it happened John
Walliker <jrwal...@gmail.com> wrote in
153b314d-6fb5-497a...@googlegroups.com>:


a Gatling gun towards people you think might be drug dealers is maybe
a little unwise.
John
Having lived in Amsterdam the way to find out what they are saying
is go over there
and say \"hey man I am buying, what you have for me?\"
;-)

Drug dealers making house calls seems a little unusual unless you have
serious money on offer, or they\'re just small-timers peddling small-time
weed to their friends, in the US it sounds like a good way to get
robbed/killed. Everyone is armed and you have no idea what you\'re
walking into.

In the \'hood at least historically they tend to stick to their \"turf\"
and buyers come to them. But maybe the pandemic has changed even that
here has been a few cases of so called \"white delivery\".
order via snapchat or SMS, and cocain, estacy or similar will be be
delivered
to your door, just like a pizza.

if there is a market someone will make a business out of it...


No they are meth users. But there has also been cocaine and heroin busts.

I have cleaned up needles from my yard and at one point they used my
storage shed

to hang out and shoot up in, my wife found 3 syringes inside. And as I
said, two women have OD,

I don\'t think I was clear they died in the house from an OD.
Tragic. But your time is probably better spent keeping your shit locked
up, put up a fence, and not being such a busy-body.

One of the downsides of home ownership is that you can get stuck with
difficult neighbors for a long time, unlike with a lease where the
landlord often won\'t be of much more help than the police, but in many
states if a neighbor in your complex is routinely doing
disruptive/illegal shit next door you have entirely just cause to bust
the lease at that point and move on, perhaps at only the cost of your
security deposit, if that.

It\'s usually the best plan as a tenant-at-will rather than hope anyone
else will solve your problem for you.
If people are breaking into the house and using it to take drugs, the place can be condemned and taken from the owner. That will clean it up. Trouble is the neighbors have to take action to motivate the city. There need to be repeated complaints and likely police involvement. If people have OD\'d in the house, that has to show up on public records. That should be sufficient.

Didn\'t sound like the neighbor\'s house was abandoned/derelict to me,
just some suburban party-house owned and occupied by asswipes, and the
owner hosts parties there or something, and people have ODed there.

No one is going to \"condemn\" shit this isn\'t some crack house in the \'hood.
LOL Multiple ODs and it\'s just a party thing! Yeah, right.

You\'ve never lived on a street with some half-wits down the way who have
house parties with 150 other half-wits roaming around drunk and doing
drugs, firing bottle rockets off til 3 AM on a Sunday morning and people
passed out on the lawn and such? Lived a charmed life if that so...
You have no way to know that. I have had exactly that situation... for years.

But no one died of an OD.

You seem to be obsessing over this, but fail to understand that deaths are treated very, very seriously.
 There was no punishment for anything that happened to any of the women
in that house.

I don\'t know why.

                      Mikek


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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
user@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7.16440@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On 2/22/2022 10:22 AM, amdx wrote:

You\'ve never lived on a street with some half-wits down the way who have
house parties with 150 other half-wits roaming around drunk and doing
drugs, firing bottle rockets off til 3 AM on a Sunday morning and people
passed out on the lawn and such? Lived a charmed life if that so...
You have no way to know that.  I have had exactly that situation...
for years.

But no one died of an OD.

You seem to be obsessing over this, but fail to understand that deaths
are treated very, very seriously.

 There was no punishment for anything that happened to any of the women
in that house.

I don\'t know why.

                      Mikek

Cuz someone tragically dying on your property isn\'t a crime they punish
you as a property-owner for unless it can be shown that you were
directly or indirectly responsible thru malice or negligence or something.

Sometimes that\'s not easily done. \"Did you provide them the drugs?\" \"No
sir\" \"Did you know they were using drugs on your property\" \"No sir\" -
prove otherwise.

Think you might be surprised how little law enforcement cares sometimes
about making a junkie\'s \"friends\" pay for the sadly predictable
consequences of an addict who sets about a course of self-destruction,
particularly if the parties involved are white. They\'re off somewhere
setting up a black guy to do a year in the bing over $50 worth of weed
 
On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

>Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.
 
On 2/22/2022 10:15 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
user@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7.16440@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?

Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.

We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.





--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
<fe5a1h1b4hbvd47b51rf55143hj1rjfhgi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

It is all about money (for US) the Military Industrial Complex needs and creates wars.
Taxpayers pay for it some also with their lives.
Evil rulers need armies to keep them in power.

One ant heap against the other, does it make us as species stronger?
WW2 gave us missiles (Von Braun) and eventually got us to the moon, gave us radar,
jet engines... nukes...
 
On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:12:15 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
fe5a1h1b4hbvd47b51rf55143hj1rjfhgi@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

It is all about money (for US) the Military Industrial Complex needs and creates wars.
Taxpayers pay for it some also with their lives.
Evil rulers need armies to keep them in power.

One ant heap against the other, does it make us as species stronger?
WW2 gave us missiles (Von Braun) and eventually got us to the moon, gave us radar,
jet engines... nukes...

All of that would have happened, without killing a hundred million
people.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:23:11 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...

Right. Who owns a hunk of territory?

I guess the only workable answer is, the people who live there.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 11:57:43 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/22/2022 10:15 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
user@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7.16440@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?

Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest

We need apprenticeships and occupational licensing for robbers.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On 2/22/2022 12:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:23:11 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...


Right. Who owns a hunk of territory?

For the bulk of the continental US it MIGHT BE argued it was the Native
Americans, but their concept of \"ownership of land\" was likely much more
vague than Europeans initially.

Sort of an annoying thing to own when you think about it as compared to
stuff like precious metals, say, land is very heavy, not easy to take
any where. Paper dollars are even more convenient

I guess the only workable answer is, the people who live there.

The Federalist party was very much opposed to the Louisiana purchase
because besides just detesting Jefferson they figured it would lead to
strife between new western states and the original colonies, and
potentially a civil war between slave states and free states.

Which in hindsight is basically what happened. Freedom-loving
slave-owner Jefferson still carried a lot of clout at that time and
their objections were overruled. The Federalists were also taken aback a
Constitutionalist like Jefferson figured he had the power to broker
deals like that, but he was more of a Constitutionalist before he was
President.

That Jefferson was something of a big hypocrite is the kind of thing
freedom of speech-lovers seem to not particularly want American kids
being taught in schools under the heading of the \"CRT\" (which is hard
for me not to think stands for a course about obsolete display technology.)

I think this is odd considering a large fraction of the (white)
Americans most opposed to this being taught likely have no family
history of e.g. slave-ownership in the first place. Many of my New
England ancestors were here before the United States and owned slaves in
the 1700s as was common at the time.
 
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 11:57:55 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?
Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest

Those doors are supposed to open outward for exactly that reason, in event of a fire you don\'t want people to have to think about it.

--

Rick C.

-+-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:01:40 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obu...@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.

We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

That\'s like saying spending hours or days contemplating the value of a resistor makes little sense. It\'s their jobs to optimize everything for their country. That makes lots of sense to them even if you can\'t understand it.

--

Rick C.

-+-+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+-+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:13:45 PM UTC-5, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0800) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
fe5a1h1b4hbvd47b5...@4ax.com>:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obu...@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.
It is all about money (for US) the Military Industrial Complex needs and creates wars.
Taxpayers pay for it some also with their lives.
Evil rulers need armies to keep them in power.

One ant heap against the other, does it make us as species stronger?
WW2 gave us missiles (Von Braun) and eventually got us to the moon, gave us radar,
jet engines... nukes...

All of which we would have developed without the war. Wartime focuses on weapons design. Peacetime focuses on pure research.

BTW, going to the moon was actually about the \"space race\", not really from the war other than the cold war... more like competing in the Olympics.

--

Rick C.

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On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:23:23 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obu...@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.
The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...

So? They gave a quit claim deed then. lol

--

Rick C.

-+++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-+++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:35:22 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:23:11 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obu...@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...
Right. Who owns a hunk of territory?

I guess the only workable answer is, the people who live there.

Tell that to the Ukrainians.

--

Rick C.

+--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On 2/22/2022 1:15 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 11:57:55 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?
Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest

Those doors are supposed to open outward for exactly that reason, in event of a fire you don\'t want people to have to think about it.

I expect the fire codes in the US often only have special
door-requirements for commercial structures that have capacities of X+
persons where X is a number like 100 or somethin, but I haven\'t looked
at the codes for my particular state.
 
On 2/22/2022 1:47 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 1:15 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 11:57:55 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc.
There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is
not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations,
they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey
wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two
telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths
and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a
mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works
with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track
for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then
posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?
Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest

Those doors are supposed to open outward for exactly that reason, in
event of a fire you don\'t want people to have to think about it.


I expect the fire codes in the US often only have special
door-requirements for commercial structures that have capacities of X+
persons where X is a number like 100 or somethin, but I haven\'t looked
at the codes for my particular state.

I forget that convenience stores in a lot of places in the US like out
west are gigantic, most in New England are tiny. I can think of one
place near me that might have a design capacity of 100 people but it
would be pretty uncomfortable
 
tirsdag den 22. februar 2022 kl. 19.48.09 UTC+1 skrev bitrex:
On 2/22/2022 1:15 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 11:57:55 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 10:15 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:46:08 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Is there a story?
Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest

Those doors are supposed to open outward for exactly that reason, in event of a fire you don\'t want people to have to think about it.

I expect the fire codes in the US often only have special
door-requirements for commercial structures that have capacities of X+
persons where X is a number like 100 or somethin, but I haven\'t looked
at the codes for my particular state.

and i depends on where the door is, and emergency exit should open out
so it can open even if a bunch of people is trying to get out at the same time
if it is a small room it should open in so people or things out side doesn\'t prevent you from opening it
 

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