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[John Larkin]

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 13:00:03 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/22/2022 12:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:23:11 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...


Right. Who owns a hunk of territory?

For the bulk of the continental US it MIGHT BE argued it was the Native
Americans, but their concept of \"ownership of land\" was likely much more
vague than Europeans initially.

Sort of an annoying thing to own when you think about it as compared to
stuff like precious metals, say, land is very heavy, not easy to take
any where. Paper dollars are even more convenient

I guess the only workable answer is, the people who live there.


The Federalist party was very much opposed to the Louisiana purchase
because besides just detesting Jefferson they figured it would lead to
strife between new western states and the original colonies, and
potentially a civil war between slave states and free states.

Which in hindsight is basically what happened. Freedom-loving
slave-owner Jefferson still carried a lot of clout at that time and
their objections were overruled. The Federalists were also taken aback a
Constitutionalist like Jefferson figured he had the power to broker
deals like that, but he was more of a Constitutionalist before he was
President.

That Jefferson was something of a big hypocrite is the kind of thing
freedom of speech-lovers seem to not particularly want American kids
being taught in schools under the heading of the \"CRT\" (which is hard
for me not to think stands for a course about obsolete display technology.)

I think this is odd considering a large fraction of the (white)
Americans most opposed to this being taught likely have no family
history of e.g. slave-ownership in the first place. Many of my New
England ancestors were here before the United States and owned slaves in
the 1700s as was common at the time.

Slavery was universal all over the world through recorded history.
What\'s remarkable about England and the USA is not that they had
slaves, but that they abolished slavery.

Are kids taught that?

Great movie, Belle.

https://www.amazon.com/Belle-Blu-ray-Gugu-Mbatha-Raw/dp/B00KO10QH2

My Irish ancestors were essentially slaves. Most people were, before
the Black Death shook things up.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[David Brown]

On 22/02/2022 18:01, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

Military aggression like this is often about improving popularity at
home rather than wanting more territory. Putin has being getting
steadily more authoritarian, and is perhaps not as popular as he has
been - attacking Ukraine and defying Nato and the UN distracts from that
and unites people back home.

 

[David Brown]

On 22/02/2022 18:36, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 11:57:43 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:


Convenience store doors that open inwards instead of outwards sometimes
perplex panicked robbers so much they\'re still trying to smash their way
thru when the police arrive, who nonchalantly push the door open to make
the arrest

We need apprenticeships and occupational licensing for robbers.

Some places have that - called \"Mafia\" or \"Triads\". It keeps the crime
better organised!

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 22:50:33 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 22/02/2022 18:01, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.


Military aggression like this is often about improving popularity at
home rather than wanting more territory. Putin has being getting
steadily more authoritarian, and is perhaps not as popular as he has
been - attacking Ukraine and defying Nato and the UN distracts from that
and unites people back home.

I just read \"A Glorious Way To Die.\" The emperor wasn\'t so much the
driving force behind the brutal Japanese empire, but a big bunch of
militarists and ultra-nationalists. Sort of a collective madness.

Usually, it\'s one leader-for-life strongman and a crowd of toadies.

I wonder if Putin\'s aggressions make him more popular at home. I\'d
guess not.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[bitrex]

On 2/22/2022 4:48 AM, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 22/2/22 7:55 pm, bitrex wrote:
I think in the US also there\'s a difference between audio/visual
recording of an area, and targeted audio-only recording, consult your
local statues

Tried consulting mine, but they didn\'t answer. Might have been stoned I
guess.

Heh!

 

[bitrex]

On 2/22/2022 9:17 AM, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 3:55:17 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 3:46 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


I think in the US also there\'s a difference between audio/visual
recording of an area, and targeted audio-only recording, consult your
local statues

Just the opposite. Recording video and not sound has allowed people to get away with it in prior times before laws caught up with technology. But that was in situations where people had an expectation of privacy, like in an apartment or hotel room.

So every time someone makes a video on their phone of a cop arresting someone they are breaking the law?

No

You are just making up stuff.

Nah, you can\'t just go around electronically eavesdropping on people\'s
conversations without their informed consent. Not by tapping their
phones, and not by using some application-specific mic to target people
talking to each other in the real world at a distance, while they are
unaware of the presence of you and/or the equipment.

How much throwing up some sign indemnifies you I can\'t say for sure,
consult your local listings. Definitely not when they\'re not even on
your property!

But using a camcorder or cell phone cam to record audio and video of
people in a public place is NOT the same thing.

 

[bitrex]

On 2/22/2022 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:

Tragic. But your time is probably better spent keeping your shit
locked up, put up a fence, and not being such a busy-body.

One of the downsides of home ownership is that you can get stuck with
difficult neighbors for a long time, unlike with a lease where the
landlord often won\'t be of much more help than the police, but in many
states if a neighbor in your complex is routinely doing
disruptive/illegal shit next door you have entirely just cause to bust
the lease at that point and move on, perhaps at only the cost of your
security deposit, if that.

It\'s usually the best plan as a tenant-at-will rather than hope anyone
else will solve your problem for you.

The neighbor surveillance is mostly just a reason for a project, so what
if I can hear the chit chat for one and a half minutes,

that gets me nothing. I could have recorded video at least 10 times. My
wife is outside much more she has seen the hand off many

more time than I have.

Yes, assuming you could overhear a conversation, what are you hoping to
accomplish with the data is a question. You know they\'re doing drugs
there and someone\'s likely providing them. But at best none of what you
capture would ever be admissible as evidence in a court.

Don\'t see how the particulars are particularly meaningful other than to
confirm what you kinda already know.

Conversations among druggies tend to be remarkably boring.

 

[Phil Allison]

Rick Cunthead knows NOTHING about the law,
==================================

Recording video and not sound has allowed people to get away with it in prior times
before laws caught up with technology.

** Fantasy bullshit.

Recording conversations has always needed consent from at least one party.

But that was in situations where people had an expectation of privacy,

** Like outdoors, on the street or sitting in a car.

Work in an office with others ?
The you go outside to gain privacy.


> So every time someone makes a video on their phone of a cop arresting someone they are breaking the law?

** Fake example.

If the cop can see you and the mobile phone , it is not a secret recording.
If a cop is having a 1:1 talk with somebody - that is a private conversation.



....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

bitrex wrote:
===========

Don\'t see how the particulars are particularly meaningful other than to
confirm what you kinda already know.

Conversations among druggies tend to be remarkably boring.

** Bout 25 years ago, mobile phones and cordless phones were analog FM.

With a radio scanner, you could monitor conversations hundreds of yards away.
Just by unplugging the base unit, a cordless handset could hear all sorts of talk from neighbours etc,

Almost no users were aware of this.
One could even capture phone numbers and pin numbers being entered with a simple DTMF decoder.


...... Phil

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 9:29:16 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

On 2/22/2022 9:17 AM, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 3:55:17 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 3:46 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


I think in the US also there\'s a difference between audio/visual
recording of an area, and targeted audio-only recording, consult your
local statues

Just the opposite. Recording video and not sound has allowed people to get away with it in prior times before laws caught up with technology. But that was in situations where people had an expectation of privacy, like in an apartment or hotel room.

So every time someone makes a video on their phone of a cop arresting someone they are breaking the law?

No

You are just making up stuff.


Nah, you can\'t just go around electronically eavesdropping on people\'s
conversations without their informed consent. Not by tapping their
phones, and not by using some application-specific mic to target people
talking to each other in the real world at a distance, while they are
unaware of the presence of you and/or the equipment.

How much throwing up some sign indemnifies you I can\'t say for sure,
consult your local listings. Definitely not when they\'re not even on
your property!

But using a camcorder or cell phone cam to record audio and video of
people in a public place is NOT the same thing.

Yet you can\'t explain how it is different. So if the mic is accompanied by a video camera, does that make it legal?

I don\'t think you actually know anything about this. You are just shooting from the hip. I dug around a bit and recording someone in public, as in standing on a sidewalk or in the street, appears to be perfectly legal because there is no expectation of privacy. If you are in a home, a phone booth (one of the examples provided), anywhere that you can\'t be casually overheard by someone nearby, there\'s an expectation of privacy. That\'s not a street or sidewalk.

Most of what you find on the Internet about this has to do with law enforcement which is a totally different thing. For civil matters, providing a sign that you are being recorded means you have been informed, just like a trespassing sign. At least in the states where I have lived, there is no presumption that you are trespassing until you are informed. A sign is sufficient notification as long as you can see it.

--

Rick C.

+--+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+--+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 9:39:31 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:

On 2/22/2022 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:

Tragic. But your time is probably better spent keeping your shit
locked up, put up a fence, and not being such a busy-body.

One of the downsides of home ownership is that you can get stuck with
difficult neighbors for a long time, unlike with a lease where the
landlord often won\'t be of much more help than the police, but in many
states if a neighbor in your complex is routinely doing
disruptive/illegal shit next door you have entirely just cause to bust
the lease at that point and move on, perhaps at only the cost of your
security deposit, if that.

It\'s usually the best plan as a tenant-at-will rather than hope anyone
else will solve your problem for you.

The neighbor surveillance is mostly just a reason for a project, so what
if I can hear the chit chat for one and a half minutes,

that gets me nothing. I could have recorded video at least 10 times. My
wife is outside much more she has seen the hand off many

more time than I have.

Yes, assuming you could overhear a conversation, what are you hoping to
accomplish with the data is a question. You know they\'re doing drugs
there and someone\'s likely providing them. But at best none of what you
capture would ever be admissible as evidence in a court.

Total BS. The police can\'t record you (other than in a public place) without a warrant. If a citizen records you there\'s nothing to stop that from being used as evidence in a criminal case.

Don\'t see how the particulars are particularly meaningful other than to
confirm what you kinda already know.

Conversations among druggies tend to be remarkably boring.

He wants to get to the kingpin!

--

Rick C.

+-+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+-+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Phil Allison]

Rick Cunthead Cannot Learn Anything.
==============================

But using a camcorder or cell phone cam to record audio and video of
people in a public place is NOT the same thing.

Yet you can\'t explain how it is different.
So if the mic is accompanied by a video camera, does that make it legal?

** The issue is secrecy - fuckhead.
Holding you mobile up to film someone is VISIBLE !!


> I don\'t think you actually know anything about this.

** ROTFLMAO = pot v kettle par excellence.

You are just shooting from the hip. I dug around a bit and recording someone in public,
as in standing on a sidewalk or in the street, appears to be perfectly legal because
there is no expectation of privacy.

** FUCKING BULLSHIT !!!!!!

Two or three people can have a private conversation almost anywhere.
On a street corner - in a park, in a noisy pub.

> Most of what you find on the Internet about this has to do with law enforcement which is a totally different thing.

** FFS you imbecile !!!

Illegal use of a \" listening device \" is a CRIMINAL offence - you absurd fuckhead!!
====================================================================

> For civil matters,

** Irrelevant crap.


...... Phil

 

[bitrex]

On 2/22/2022 11:19 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 9:29:16 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 9:17 AM, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 3:55:17 AM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 3:46 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 02:24:08 -0500) it happened bitrex
us...@example.net> wrote in <tc0RJ.37177$r6p7....@fx41.iad>:

?

Indeed. Just as reporters make audio recordings of crowds, etc. There is nothing special about sound, as long as they are
informed or if the location is public enough, being informed is not required.


No way, there is something special about real-world conversations, they
fall under wiretapping laws. Private citizens have to obey wiretapping
laws. Basically if it\'s illegal to do to a wire between two telephones
it\'s illegal to do to the vibrating air between two human\'s mouths and
ears. Intent matters of course, recording a crowd or putting up a mic on
your property to record bird songs isn\'t the same thing.

Most modern security cameras have sound too, I have one like that.
There is a TV program here that mentions recent crimes and works with the police
they then ask everybody with a security camera or some other camera
or car camera in that area to upload the stuff, that way they track for example
where the bad guy\'s cars go, (many people have such private cameras).
what language the bad guys speak, and their pictures are then posted in the program
and online.
Sure if something happened here they can have my recordings.
5 security cams here (been robbed twice in Amsterdam).
Last time I was home, poor guy,...


I think in the US also there\'s a difference between audio/visual
recording of an area, and targeted audio-only recording, consult your
local statues

Just the opposite. Recording video and not sound has allowed people to get away with it in prior times before laws caught up with technology. But that was in situations where people had an expectation of privacy, like in an apartment or hotel room.

So every time someone makes a video on their phone of a cop arresting someone they are breaking the law?

No

You are just making up stuff.


Nah, you can\'t just go around electronically eavesdropping on people\'s
conversations without their informed consent. Not by tapping their
phones, and not by using some application-specific mic to target people
talking to each other in the real world at a distance, while they are
unaware of the presence of you and/or the equipment.

How much throwing up some sign indemnifies you I can\'t say for sure,
consult your local listings. Definitely not when they\'re not even on
your property!

But using a camcorder or cell phone cam to record audio and video of
people in a public place is NOT the same thing.

Yet you can\'t explain how it is different. So if the mic is accompanied by a video camera, does that make it legal?

I don\'t think you actually know anything about this. You are just shooting from the hip. I dug around a bit and recording someone in public, as in standing on a sidewalk or in the street, appears to be perfectly legal because there is no expectation of privacy. If you are in a home, a phone booth (one of the examples provided), anywhere that you can\'t be casually overheard by someone nearby, there\'s an expectation of privacy. That\'s not a street or sidewalk.

Most of what you find on the Internet about this has to do with law enforcement which is a totally different thing. For civil matters, providing a sign that you are being recorded means you have been informed, just like a trespassing sign. At least in the states where I have lived, there is no presumption that you are trespassing until you are informed. A sign is sufficient notification as long as you can see it.

Would you put up an informational sign that said \"Attention women:
angle-enhancement devices may be in use on this property to take photos
up your skirts. Please remove your skirts or leave now if you do not
consent to this practice.\"

Whether this constitutes proper \"informed consent\" I think you should
consult a lawyer.

Similarly for use of audio-enhancement devices to listen to or record
conversations, instead of angle-enhancement devices.

<http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations>

See section \"Can you record a phone call or conversation when you do not
have consent from one of the parties?\" about the necessity of consent,
not just informing.

 

[Phil Allison]

gnuarm.delusionl raving nut case

==========================
Bitrex wrote:

Yes, assuming you could overhear a conversation, what are you hoping to
accomplish with the data is a question. You know they\'re doing drugs
there and someone\'s likely providing them. But at best none of what you
capture would ever be admissible as evidence in a court.

Total BS.

** Fraid it is FACT !!!

> If a citizen records you there\'s nothing to stop that from being used as evidence in a criminal case.

** No way.

The citizen will become the *accused in a criminal case* if they were not a party to the conversation.

Look up \"wire tapping law USA \"
It\'s a Federal Crime.



...... Phil

 

[bitrex]

On 2/22/2022 11:23 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 9:39:31 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
On 2/22/2022 8:49 AM, amdx wrote:

Tragic. But your time is probably better spent keeping your shit
locked up, put up a fence, and not being such a busy-body.

One of the downsides of home ownership is that you can get stuck with
difficult neighbors for a long time, unlike with a lease where the
landlord often won\'t be of much more help than the police, but in many
states if a neighbor in your complex is routinely doing
disruptive/illegal shit next door you have entirely just cause to bust
the lease at that point and move on, perhaps at only the cost of your
security deposit, if that.

It\'s usually the best plan as a tenant-at-will rather than hope anyone
else will solve your problem for you.

The neighbor surveillance is mostly just a reason for a project, so what
if I can hear the chit chat for one and a half minutes,

that gets me nothing. I could have recorded video at least 10 times. My
wife is outside much more she has seen the hand off many

more time than I have.

Yes, assuming you could overhear a conversation, what are you hoping to
accomplish with the data is a question. You know they\'re doing drugs
there and someone\'s likely providing them. But at best none of what you
capture would ever be admissible as evidence in a court.

Total BS. The police can\'t record you (other than in a public place) without a warrant. If a citizen records you there\'s nothing to stop that from being used as evidence in a criminal case.


Don\'t see how the particulars are particularly meaningful other than to
confirm what you kinda already know.

Conversations among druggies tend to be remarkably boring.

He wants to get to the kingpin!

If amdx think someone is the \"kingpin\" there\'s a high probability it\'s
just a harried Grubhub delivery driver, lol. He\'s gonna snatch the bag
out of the poor bastard\'s hands like \"a HA!\" and instead of China White
he\'ll find a big dish of beef chow mein.

<https://youtu.be/qae25976UgA>

 

[bitrex]

On 2/22/2022 11:02 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

bitrex wrote:
===========

Don\'t see how the particulars are particularly meaningful other than to
confirm what you kinda already know.

Conversations among druggies tend to be remarkably boring.


** Bout 25 years ago, mobile phones and cordless phones were analog FM.

With a radio scanner, you could monitor conversations hundreds of yards away.
Just by unplugging the base unit, a cordless handset could hear all sorts of talk from neighbours etc,

Almost no users were aware of this.
One could even capture phone numbers and pin numbers being entered with a simple DTMF decoder.


..... Phil

I expect my first cell phone was an analog unit, can\'t remember what
model it was exactly though. I was in college during the last years it
was still very rare to see students with cell phones on campus, still
using desk or wall phones for the most part. A few years later everyone
had them.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:23:11 -0500) it happened bitrex
<user@example.net> wrote in <3_8RJ.15189$LRj9.10031@fx29.iad>:

On 2/22/2022 12:01 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

The US bought the Louisiana territory and Alaska for about 2.6 billion
and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...

That remembers me of a picture in a big photo-magazine in the sixties of a farmer working his land
The text under it was something like \'..works the land that he owns for a while\'
Give human lifespan, who \'owns\' what?

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:33:00 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 17:12:15 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 09:01:23 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:51:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 07:15:39 -0800) it happened
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
oev91h9ke0vp38obuv8bsbtbfok99dpleo@4ax.com>:

Is it a crime there to assault a burgler in your house?

Well, we have been joking about that as no, you should welcome those burglars.
Problem is if you permanently disable one chances are you get sued
for using disproportional force or something.
I think its better now, but shooting one if you have no gun license may get you into big trouble.

OTOH its a lot of meat for in the deep freezer although I do not consume earthlings myself
bad for your health, way too fat.
Just had some fresh potato chips from the duplicator...

Fixed my sat dish this morning, now the wind is down, wedge bolt pulled out of the wall by the storm!
Anyways it now aligned again, can see Russia RT, people in the areas that Russia now supports as peace-keeper
celebrating and having fireworks.
US imperialism and weapon stuffing (and UK) to Ukrain is evil.
So many lies, just like weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
biden is a monster, just like his predecessor Bil Clignon was making war in Europe.


We have Joe for three, or barely possibly 7 more years, but the
Russians have Putin for life.

Lust for territory is really weird. Germany, Japan, USSR, China. Makes
little sense.

It is all about money (for US) the Military Industrial Complex needs and creates wars.
Taxpayers pay for it some also with their lives.
Evil rulers need armies to keep them in power.

One ant heap against the other, does it make us as species stronger?
WW2 gave us missiles (Von Braun) and eventually got us to the moon, gave us radar,
jet engines... nukes...


All of that would have happened, without killing a hundred million
people.

I do not think so.
It is evolution at work.
Animals developed similar \'tech\' if you want to call it that way,
plants too, to survive, defend themselves against others (poisonous leaves, spikes etc),
in a competitive world, we are not different.

Do wars have a purpose? Yes I think so.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 22 Feb 2022 10:22:46 -0800 (PST)) it happened Rick C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
<b6744335-ee9d-430c-b477-9bc58631c338n@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022 at 12:35:22 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:23:11 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

and 100 million in modern dollars, respectively. Some believe these
territories weren\'t really France or Russia\'s property to sell in the
first place...
Right. Who owns a hunk of territory?

I guess the only workable answer is, the people who live there.

Tell that to the Ukrainians.

They are just a bunch of CIA pawns who overthrew their government and are shelling
peaceful people who declared them selves independent from that.

biden wants war also to distract the world from his totally failed policies he
promoted while running for president
All you have now is inflation, homelessness, more crime, and dictatorship by a mentally
not so good working stress puppet.

x

 

[bitrex]

On 2/23/2022 1:35 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 2/22/2022 11:02 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
  bitrex wrote:
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Don\'t see how the particulars are particularly meaningful other than to
confirm what you kinda already know.

Conversations among druggies tend to be remarkably boring.


** Bout 25 years ago,  mobile phones and cordless phones were analog FM.

  With a radio scanner, you could monitor conversations hundreds of
yards away.
  Just by unplugging the base unit, a cordless handset could hear all
sorts of talk from neighbours etc,

Almost no users were aware of this.
One could even capture phone numbers and pin numbers being entered
with a simple DTMF decoder.


.....  Phil


I expect my first cell phone was an analog unit, can\'t remember what
model it was exactly though. I was in college during the last years it
was still very rare to see students with cell phones on campus, still
using desk or wall phones for the most part. A few years later everyone
had them.

It was probably a Nokia 909 or similar:

<https://www.deviantart.com/redfield-1982/art/Nokia-909-from-1995-457970303>