Wind turbines used to absorb a power surplus?...

[Peeler]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:46:44 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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[Peeler]

On 21 Mar 2023 05:21:03 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

I\'ve seen the film but missed the rom-com part I guess. Too focused on the
birds to observe the humans.

Good you let everyone know yet another interesting detail about your
interesting personality, you all-American bigmouthed superhero. <BG>

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[Peeler]

On 21 Mar 2023 05:18:08 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

That was the upstate NY dynamic. The paper would run photos of deer yarded
up in the deep snow and starving so someone would organize a hay airlift.
Next year, more deer yarded up and starving.

The same dynamic happens with human populations.

But why doesn\'t it seem to happen to pathological bigmouths like you? The
reason is, your big mouth REALLY got a life of its own!

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I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"

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[Peeler]

On 21 Mar 2023 05:14:47 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> A rabbit doesn\'t have much of a life expectancy here.

Sadly, your big mouth has...

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[Vir Campestris]

On 18/03/2023 18:49, rbowman wrote:

I\'m waiting for the Rural Fiber Cable Act but I don\'t think that\'s going
to happen.

Do you have a telephone?

Here in the UK BT (who came from the Post Office, which had a state
monopoly) are gradually replacing copper with fibre because it is more
reliable.

Andy

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 18/03/2023 11:54, alan_m wrote:

How do you think a wind farm works when there is no wind? For 50% of the
windmills you turn on the fan mode so the rest of them can generate
electricity. It\'s the perfect perpetual motion scheme on a gigantic scale.

Please don\'t say things like that. There are people out there who will
believe you.

Just as they believe we can have 100% of our power coming from wind.

Andy

 

[Vir Campestris]

On 20/03/2023 23:36, SteveW wrote:

On 20/03/2023 18:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/03/2023 09:16, alan_m wrote:
You just need to point out that most peoples Wi-fi will operate at
the dangerous 5GHz.

The 5G mobile phone (cell phone) masts causing Covid. Here in the UK
the government took the opportunity to insert a tracking device under
the skin with every Covid vaccination.

Jesus wept. A full blown tinfoil hatter.

I think that he is being sarcastic.

That was my assumption. However...

On 19/03/2023 14:09, micky wrote:
> Pointing things out doesn\'t work here. 🙁

would suggest not everyone agrees.

Andy

 

[alan_m]

On 21/03/2023 00:54, micky wrote:

Those are id chips and only work if you\'re standing right next to the
machine that reads them. They don\'t do tracking.

Why do you think they are installing those 5G masts on every street
corner?

There is also the under pavement 100G fibre networks being installed
throughout the country with the machine readers every 10 metres for
better tracking resolution

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 11:14:05 PM UTC+11, alan_m wrote:

On 21/03/2023 00:54, micky wrote:

Those are id chips and only work if you\'re standing right next to the
machine that reads them. They don\'t do tracking.
Why do you think they are installing those 5G masts on every street
corner?

5G has a shorter range than 4G so the cells are smaller.

You need more masts - and in your case - a double layer of tin foil in your hat.

There is also the under pavement 100G fibre networks being installed
throughout the country with the machine readers every 10 metres for
better tracking resolution

People do seem to use up all the bandwidth they can get. Mostly for swapping idiot misinformation with half-wits like you. It takes time to put together reliable information, but the average idiot seems to be able to dream up a pretty much infinite amount of nonsense in a very short time.

--
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[John Larkin]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 11:26:43 +0000, Vir Campestris
<vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 18/03/2023 11:54, alan_m wrote:
How do you think a wind farm works when there is no wind? For 50% of the
windmills you turn on the fan mode so the rest of them can generate
electricity. It\'s the perfect perpetual motion scheme on a gigantic scale.

Please don\'t say things like that. There are people out there who will
believe you.

Just as they believe we can have 100% of our power coming from wind.

Andy

I invented the concept of connecting a motor to a generator and making
free power. I think I was about 7 years old.

Youtube is full of similar schemes.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 00:22:33 +0100, \"Carlos E.R.\"
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-03-18 20:57, Bob F wrote:
On 3/18/2023 7:27 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-03-18 12:17, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 18-Mar-23 8:39 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
An electrician (who I don\'t believe) told me if there\'s too much
power on the grid, they use wind turbines as fans to absorb extra
power.  Is this really true?  Aren\'t there plenty of power stations
they can just turn down a bit?  Take your foot off the gas so to speak?

I was also disturbed to hear from him it costs £700 to install smart
meters into each home.  And in the UK that comes from green tax.
Shouldn\'t that tax be being spent on making more green energy,
building new wind farms?

Coal fired power stations cannot change their output rapidly, and can
be willing to pay for the right to generate in preference to reducing
output.

So the windfarm notion is not entirely implausible. However, wind
turbines use electronics to match the turbine output to the grid
frequency, and it seems unlikely that it\'s designed to operate in
reverse for the relatively rare occasions that that would be used.

Yes, they need a different kind of inverter, way more expensive, to do
that.

On balance, then, I doubt that using wind turbines as fans is real.

On the other hand, any synchronous generator (without electronics)
runs as a motor if the voltage on the output rises (constant speed,
though). I don\'t suppose they like that on hydro places, could do damage.


There are hydro power plants that pump water up during low usage and use
the motors as generators when more is needed.

Different thing.

If the goal is to waste excess power, pumped hydro will work fine.

 

[John Larkin]

On 21 Mar 2023 05:21:03 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 11:36:29 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


This is a sweet rom-com:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wild_Parrots_of_Telegraph_Hill

I\'ve seen the film but missed the rom-com part I guess. Too focused on the
birds to observe the humans.

I\'m kind of autistic and don\'t much care for people or music or art,
but I love romantic stories [1]. I guess the tiny mating part of my
brain survived being crowded out by electronics.

That makes sense evolutionarily. If engineers weren\'t romantic, they
would be selected out of the population and everybody would be
artists.

There must be a reason that some women, generally great women, like
enginers but I haven\'t figured out why.


[1] Favorite book A Damsel In Distress
tied with The Art Of Electronics

Favorite movie Pride and Prejudice 2005

 

[Clive Arthur]

On 18/03/2023 11:54, alan_m wrote:

On 18/03/2023 11:17, Sylvia Else wrote:

On balance, then, I doubt that using wind turbines as fans is real.

How do you think a wind farm works when there is no wind? For 50% of the
windmills you turn on the fan mode so the rest of them can generate
electricity. It\'s the perfect perpetual motion scheme on a gigantic scale.

It\'s also a great method of power distribution. Less visual impact than
pylons.

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Cheers
Clive

 

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 18:26:40 +1100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 20/03/2023 21:10, Sam Plusnet wrote:
On 20-Mar-23 19:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Total myth

Domestic cats may carry 2.4 million dead birds into the house as
gifts. Bit no vcat can catch a bird that is able to fly.,
\"No cat can catch a bird that is able to fly\"?!?

My neighbours cat ambushes birds coming to a bird feeder. As the birds
fly in to perch it pounces jumping three feet in the air and catches
them still in flight.

Yeah seem a few video shorts of cats doing that.

But I doubt many birds die like that.

Pigeons feed on the ground under bird feeders and seem easy prey for
cats although once the area is covered in feathers they become very wary
about landing for a few days. This shows why the old country practice
of protecting crops worked - killing crows and leaving the corpses in
the field. Probably not too effective these days where kites and
buzzards are no longer exterminated and have been re-introduced to
areas. These birds will very quickly spot the dead crow and eat it.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 19:15:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 20/03/2023 16:17, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-03-20, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

I like birds. I feed a bunch of them twice a day. They prefer Fritos
to anything else we\'ve tried; I\'m sympathetic to that choice. I have
one giantic raven and a one-legged blue jay that will fly and snatch a
Frito out of my hand.

The tiny little Juncos clean up every spec of food off the deck

We feed the birds, too. The rabbits also benefit.

One afternoon I came out and put some banana bread out. I barely
had time to turn around and step away from it before a rabbit
dashed out of cover and started in on it.

Well all that happens if you feed birds is you get more birds, and then
they all die of something other than starvation.

Sure. Everything dies eventually, so if you create more critters, more
will die.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/03/2023 21:39, micky wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 19 Mar 2023 10:09:29 -0400, micky
NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:16:59 +0000, alan_m
junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 19/03/2023 03:37, micky wrote:

There was, a few years ago, also a lot ofadverse publicity, but iirc it
was nonsense about radiation (even though the transmission is only for a
few seconds once a month, far less than loads of other things.)

You just need to point out that most peoples Wi-fi will operate at the
dangerous 5GHz.

Pointing things out doesn\'t work here. :-(

The 5G mobile phone (cell phone) masts causing Covid. Here in the UK the
government took the opportunity to insert a tracking device under the
skin

I should have read further.

Under the skin? Do you mean throught the needle? ROTFLOL.

with every Covid vaccination.

They don\'t make tracking devices that small. Don\'t believe what the
crackpots tell you.

Someone published an alleged circuit diagram - it was actually for a wah
wah FX pedal.

I didnt think you could get stupider than remoaners or Greens. I was wrong.

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foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/03/2023 23:36, SteveW wrote:

On 20/03/2023 18:36, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/03/2023 09:16, alan_m wrote:
You just need to point out that most peoples Wi-fi will operate at
the dangerous 5GHz.

The 5G mobile phone (cell phone) masts causing Covid. Here in the UK
the government took the opportunity to insert a tracking device under
the skin with every Covid vaccination.

Jesus wept. A full blown tinfoil hatter.

I think that he is being sarcastic.

God, I hope so...

--
Karl Marx said religion is the opium of the people.
But Marxism is the crack cocaine.

 

[John Larkin]

On 21 Mar 2023 05:11:41 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 07:53:54 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


I like birds. I feed a bunch of them twice a day. They prefer Fritos to
anything else we\'ve tried; I\'m sympathetic to that choice. I have one
giantic raven and a one-legged blue jay that will fly and snatch a Frito
out of my hand.

I feed the birds and I also feed some cats of uncertain status. At times
that devolves to feeding birds to the cats. I did rig a pulley system for
the feeder after noting how far a fat cat can leap from the ground when
motivated.

I should try Fritos. Black oil sunflower seeds make a hell of a mess. The
cats get Meow Mix and I think the jays help themselves to that too.

Lots of seedy things go rancid. Fritos don\'t.

I stand on our deck and dramatically eat a few Fritos. That annoys the
ravens waiting in the trees, and they fly up to get theirs before they
are all gone.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 20/03/2023 21:10, Sam Plusnet wrote:

On 20-Mar-23 19:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Total myth

Domestic cats may carry 2.4 million dead birds into the house  as
gifts. Bit no vcat can catch a bird that is able to fly.,

\"No cat can catch a bird that is able to fly\"?!?

A flat declaration which is completely false, and most people who know
much about cats will know that.

Yawn. It has to be a very STUPID bird.

> You don\'t do yourself any favours.
Neither do you. I am sorry to dent your denialism, but around 20 million
birds a year have to die.

Out here where there are at the moment no cats at all, I am not
inundated with them

Probably because I dont feed the weaklings that get fat fall off the
bird table and cant fly because of laziness and obesity


--
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[John Larkin]

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 17:39:08 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 19 Mar 2023 10:09:29 -0400, micky
NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:16:59 +0000, alan_m
junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

On 19/03/2023 03:37, micky wrote:

There was, a few years ago, also a lot ofadverse publicity, but iirc it
was nonsense about radiation (even though the transmission is only for a
few seconds once a month, far less than loads of other things.)

You just need to point out that most peoples Wi-fi will operate at the
dangerous 5GHz.

Pointing things out doesn\'t work here. :-(

The 5G mobile phone (cell phone) masts causing Covid. Here in the UK the
government took the opportunity to insert a tracking device under the
skin

I should have read further.

Under the skin? Do you mean throught the needle? ROTFLOL.

Cataract surgery involves using a needle to emulsify and slurp out the
old lens, and then uses another needle to inject the new artificial
lens. It takes about 10 minutes.