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In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2..3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
In <op.13d81...@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> writes:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I\'ll play the stright cow here. In the USofA, a \"continous load\"
on a circuit is generall maxed at at _80 percent_ of the rated
wire/circuit carrying capcity.
Reason: heat buildup.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
In <op.13d81pc2mvhs6z@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I\'ll play the stright cow here.
In the USofA, a \"continous load\"
on a circuit is generall maxed at at _80 percent_ of the rated
wire/circuit carrying capcity.
Reason: heat buildup.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:08:47 +0100, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
In <op.13d81...@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> writes:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I\'ll play the stright cow here.
No idea what that\'s supposed to mean.
In the USofA, a \"continous load\"
on a circuit is generall maxed at at _80 percent_ of the rated
wire/circuit carrying capcity.
Reason: heat buildup.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
It does not, we wire things properly as we\'re a 1st world country. You can buy 3kW fanheaters for example. I\'ve run one for several hours without anything bursting into flames.
We also have switches on our sockets, and sleeved pins. I guess that\'s why you still have the wimpy 120V in most circuits.
On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:08:54â¯AM UTC-4, danny burstein wrote:
In <op.13d81...@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> writes:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I\'ll play the stright cow here. In the USofA, a \"continous load\"
on a circuit is generall maxed at at _80 percent_ of the rated
wire/circuit carrying capcity.
Reason: heat buildup.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
I\'m no expert in UK electrical regulations, but in other conversations, I\'m pretty sure I\'ve been told this is not the case. The reason is, in the UK, most homes are wired with a \"ring\" that can carry much more than 13 amps. So the wires and breaker are rated at higher currents. So each 13 amp load can actually draw 13 amps.
Also, in the UK, the protection device for everything plugged into an outlet, is in the device. They put a \"fuse\" in the connector itself.
Sounds pretty good to me. In conversations with brits who know about this stuff, they claim their electrical safety is much better than in the US. They don\'t seem to have a problem with tossing out the old every few decades, when they come up with something that is significantly better.
I have an old British plug here, fused. I just opened it for a check,
and the fuse is rated 13A.
With a continuous load of 13A, that fuse will blow. I don\'t know if in
hours, or days, or minutes, but it will blow.
On 14/04/2023 22:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I have an old British plug here, fused. I just opened it for a check,
and the fuse is rated 13A.
With a continuous load of 13A, that fuse will blow. I don\'t know if in
hours, or days, or minutes, but it will blow.
I don\'t think that\'s right. A 13A fuse should not blow at 13A, but may
blow above 13A. It may take some time.
On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 5:50:45â¯PM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 14/04/2023 22:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I have an old British plug here, fused. I just opened it for a check,
and the fuse is rated 13A.
With a continuous load of 13A, that fuse will blow. I don\'t know if in
hours, or days, or minutes, but it will blow.
I don\'t think that\'s right. A 13A fuse should not blow at 13A, but may
blow above 13A. It may take some time.
Why above, but not at 13A? These things are not hugely precise. I know you can\'t count on a 13A fuse to blow at 14A. I would not expect to draw 13A from a 13A circuit and never have problems. I guess if you go through a few 13A fuses, you will eventually find a 13.5A fuse and life will be good.
....
On 14/04/2023 22:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I have an old British plug here, fused. I just opened it for a check,
and the fuse is rated 13A.
With a continuous load of 13A, that fuse will blow. I don\'t know if in
hours, or days, or minutes, but it will blow.
I don\'t think that\'s right. A 13A fuse should not blow at 13A, but may
blow above 13A. It may take some time.
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a
standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a
maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
On Friday, 14 April 2023 at 17:06:12 UTC-7, Ricky wrote:
On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 5:50:45â¯PM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
On 14/04/2023 22:34, Carlos E.R. wrote:
I have an old British plug here, fused. I just opened it for a check,
and the fuse is rated 13A.
With a continuous load of 13A, that fuse will blow. I don\'t know if in
hours, or days, or minutes, but it will blow.
I don\'t think that\'s right. A 13A fuse should not blow at 13A, but may
blow above 13A. It may take some time.
Why above, but not at 13A? These things are not hugely precise. I know you can\'t count on a 13A fuse to blow at 14A. I would not expect to draw 13A from a 13A circuit and never have problems. I guess if you go through a few 13A fuses, you will eventually find a 13.5A fuse and life will be good.
...
A UK 13A fuse will actually pass about 20A indefinitely.
https://www.pat-testing-training.net/articles/fuse-operation-characteristics.php
kw
On 14-Apr-23 11:57 pm, Commander Kinsey wrote:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a
standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a
maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
Commonality with other 230/240V markets? The UK is unusual in having
standard sockets rated at more than 10A.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 15:08:47 +0100, danny burstein <dan...@panix.com> wrote:
In <op.13d81...@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> writes:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I\'ll play the stright cow here.
No idea what that\'s supposed to mean.
In the USofA, a \"continous load\"
on a circuit is generall maxed at at _80 percent_ of the rated
wire/circuit carrying capcity.
Reason: heat buildup.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
It does not, we wire things properly as we\'re a 1st world country. You can buy 3kW fanheaters for example. I\'ve run one for several hours without anything bursting into flames.
We also have switches on our sockets, and sleeved pins. I guess that\'s why you still have the wimpy 120V in most circuits.
On Friday, April 14, 2023 at 10:08:54â¯AM UTC-4, danny burstein wrote:
In <op.13d81...@ryzen.home> \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> writes:
In the UK, \"most vehicle manufacturers limit the current drawn from a standard domestic 3 pin socket to 10A or less, which equates to a maximum of 2.3kW.\"
Why? A UK socket is 13A, or 3.12kW.
I\'ll play the stright cow here. In the USofA, a \"continous load\"
on a circuit is generall maxed at at _80 percent_ of the rated
wire/circuit carrying capcity.
Reason: heat buildup.
I suspect, with no foundationwhatsever, the UK uses
the same concepts.
I\'m no expert in UK electrical regulations, but in other conversations, I\'m pretty sure I\'ve been told this is not the case. The reason is, in the UK, most homes are wired with a \"ring\" that can carry much more than 13 amps.. So the wires and breaker are rated at higher currents. So each 13 amp load can actually draw 13 amps.
Also, in the UK, the protection device for everything plugged into an outlet, is in the device. They put a \"fuse\" in the connector itself.
Sounds pretty good to me. In conversations with brits who know about this stuff, they claim their electrical safety is much better than in the US. They don\'t seem to have a problem with tossing out the old every few decades, when they come up with something that is significantly better.
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