Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?...

[Peeler]

On Sun, 21 May 2023 07:25:05 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:

Way less time than you take to brood on lame snarky replies. That
ratio is about 900:1.

Isn\'t there a newsgroup just for skill-free flamers?

Or rather a newsgroup for useless brainless troll-feeding senile ASSHOLES
like you! Keep your shit out of these ngs, finally, you useless senile
typical Yankee SHITHEAD!

 

[rbowman]

On Sun, 21 May 2023 09:44:34 -0400, Paul wrote:

Yeah, you could take lessons there. You won\'t get any altitude sickness
off that

That\'s for sure. My front door is 1000\' higher than the base elevation.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 21 May 2023 09:44:34 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
wrote:

On 5/21/2023 12:04 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 21:29:36 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 20:30:03 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 05:34:17 +0100, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 03:12:45 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 00:49:59 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 16:08:26 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/1/2023 11:00 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 21:05:15 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 09:48:57 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 08:17:19 +0000, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 22/03/2023 17:15, John Larkin wrote:

They were primitive, barbaric, dangerous, leaky, unreliable, and great
fun.

Fun until you get older and just want the comfort

And AWD and a ski rack.

Old people don\'t ski.

That\'s excellent news. I have a season pass at Sugar Bowl.


He\'s right in my case. I snowboard.

I tried that for a couple of days, a lot of falling and hopping around
like a frog. I\'m too old for THAT.

I like that a boarder can go any direction, forward or backwards or
sideways, but I can do that on skis too. I\'m teaching a nice lady from
Hawaii how to spin.

Here\'s my technique:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3u33eojlglnrn4/Features_crash.avi?dl=0

What\'s with the heavy breathing at the start?

Some of us need oxygen when we ski hard at 8200 feet with a camera in
one hand and two poles in the other.

You were stood still!

You might notice that I didn\'t start filming at the top of the
mountain.

Just how long does it take to get your breath back?

Where do you ski? How high?

Rarely since there\'s not much snow in Scotland.  Look up Glenshee.
Then ask them about the guy who skied in a tartan thong for a dare.

Yeah, you could take lessons there. You won\'t get any altitude sickness off that

https://www.ski-glenshee.co.uk/pubd/images/upd/178d6731720-GT-Side-On-Compressed.1900.jpg

Paul

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resorts/netherlands/

 

[Rod Speed]

On Mon, 22 May 2023 00:25:05 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2023 05:04:50 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 21:29:36 +0100, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 20:30:03 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 05:34:17 +0100, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 03:12:45 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2023 00:49:59 +0100, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 2 Apr 2023 16:08:26 -0700, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:

On 4/1/2023 11:00 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 01 Apr 2023 21:05:15 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 09:48:57 -0000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 08:17:19 +0000, alan_m
junk@admac.myzen.co.uk
wrote:

On 22/03/2023 17:15, John Larkin wrote:

They were primitive, barbaric, dangerous, leaky, unreliable,
and great
fun.

Fun until you get older and just want the comfort

And AWD and a ski rack.

Old people don\'t ski.

That\'s excellent news. I have a season pass at Sugar Bowl.


He\'s right in my case. I snowboard.

I tried that for a couple of days, a lot of falling and hopping
around
like a frog. I\'m too old for THAT.

I like that a boarder can go any direction, forward or backwards or
sideways, but I can do that on skis too. I\'m teaching a nice lady
from
Hawaii how to spin.

Here\'s my technique:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3u33eojlglnrn4/Features_crash.avi?dl=0

What\'s with the heavy breathing at the start?

Some of us need oxygen when we ski hard at 8200 feet with a camera in
one hand and two poles in the other.

You were stood still!

You might notice that I didn\'t start filming at the top of the
mountain.

Just how long does it take to get your breath back?

Way less time than you take to brood on lame snarky replies. That
ratio is about 900:1.

Isn\'t there a newsgroup just for skill-free flamers?

He is actually very skilled at asking questions that get lots of comments.

 

[Peeler]

On 21 May 2023 17:30:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

That\'s for sure. My front door is 1000\' higher than the base elevation.

Your mouth is bigger than anyone else\'s by how much, pathological bigmouth?

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 22 May 2023 04:40:47 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
JimK addressing senile Rodent Speed:
\"I really feel the quality of your trolling has dropped in the last few
months...\"
MID: <n8idndHg5972A2DDnZ2dnUU78e-dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

 

[rbowman]

On Sun, 21 May 2023 11:38:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.skicentral.com/indiana.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajl7h_bJuk

 

[John Larkin]

On 21 May 2023 21:43:40 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2023 11:38:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.skicentral.com/indiana.html

400 foot vertical is OK. Just more lift rides per hour, same duty
cycle of up and down. Unless there are big lines.

I first skiied at Aspen Highlands, which is about a 4000\' vertical.
That\'s another silly story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajl7h_bJuk

About like Tahoe Donner. Fun for a few runs in the afternoon.

 

[rbowman]

On Sun, 21 May 2023 15:57:38 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On 21 May 2023 21:43:40 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2023 11:38:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.skicentral.com/indiana.html

400 foot vertical is OK. Just more lift rides per hour, same duty cycle
of up and down. Unless there are big lines.

I\'ve never been to either but the video looks like a ski slope I would be
comfortable with, aka a bunny slope.

When I worked in Ft. Wayne I would make mental health pilgrimages to the
Brown County State Park down by Bloomington. Weed Patch Hill isn\'t the
highest point in Indiana but it does have about 250\' prominence. The area
is also forested. After looking at the miles and miles of dead flat
soybean fields around Ft. Wayne I needed something.

I first skiied at Aspen Highlands, which is about a 4000\' vertical.
That\'s another silly story.

I first skied at Killington in VT with about 3000\' vertical drop. Luckily
I fell off the j-bar before I got too far up the bunny slope. The rental
boots were a bit tight, resulting in both big toenails turning black and
falling off. That\'s my downhill experience.

Years later I did some Nordic but preferred flat terrain. I\'m more of a
snowshoe person and really don\'t like that sliding sensation. Ice and
roller skates didn\'t work out well either.

 

[John Larkin]

On 22 May 2023 01:59:39 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2023 15:57:38 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On 21 May 2023 21:43:40 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2023 11:38:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

https://www.skicentral.com/indiana.html

400 foot vertical is OK. Just more lift rides per hour, same duty cycle
of up and down. Unless there are big lines.

I\'ve never been to either but the video looks like a ski slope I would be
comfortable with, aka a bunny slope.

When I worked in Ft. Wayne I would make mental health pilgrimages to the
Brown County State Park down by Bloomington. Weed Patch Hill isn\'t the
highest point in Indiana but it does have about 250\' prominence. The area
is also forested. After looking at the miles and miles of dead flat
soybean fields around Ft. Wayne I needed something.


I first skiied at Aspen Highlands, which is about a 4000\' vertical.
That\'s another silly story.

I first skied at Killington in VT with about 3000\' vertical drop. Luckily
I fell off the j-bar before I got too far up the bunny slope. The rental
boots were a bit tight, resulting in both big toenails turning black and
falling off. That\'s my downhill experience.

Always clip your toenails before you ski.

Years later I did some Nordic but preferred flat terrain. I\'m more of a
snowshoe person and really don\'t like that sliding sensation. Ice and
roller skates didn\'t work out well either.

Well, I like speed and radical g-forces. My normal driving makes
people sick.

I think, or at least imagine, there are mental similarities between
skiing/driving/roller coaster sorts of motions and analog circuit
design, the same feelings for curves and dynamics.

Analog and digital people are different, I think.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 12:35:47 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On 22 May 2023 01:59:39 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2023 15:57:38 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On 21 May 2023 21:43:40 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2023 11:38:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

> Well, I like speed and radical g-forces. My normal driving makes people sick.

It might just be you conversation.,

I think, or at least imagine, there are mental similarities between skiing/driving/roller coaster sorts of motions and analog circuit
design, the same feelings for curves and dynamics.

John Larkin imagines that he can do analog circuit design. He sees it like sking, in that you put one component in front of another and see where that goes,

> Analog and digital people are different, I think.

Analog is more complicated. One of my engineers once expressed scepticism about ECL logic , and when I said that it has always delivered for me, he responded \"but you are an analog engineer\" with the implication that worrying about transmission line impedances and reflections were the sort of complications that it took an analog engineer to cope with. He was a very good digital engineer, so some kinds of complications didn\'t worry him at all.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[rbowman]

On Sun, 21 May 2023 19:35:31 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Well, I like speed and radical g-forces. My normal driving makes people
sick.

The city got onto a roundabout kick a few years ago. I look at them as
challenges either in a car or on a motorcycle. I learned to drive on dirt
roads and have no problem drifting through a turn. I just like my feet
firmly attached to the ground.

 

[Peeler]

On 21 May 2023 21:43:40 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

https://www.skicentral.com/indiana.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jajl7h_bJuk

What\'s this shit? Is it now about skiing, you subnormal gossip?

--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
\"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn\'t bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake.\"
MID: <kaldt8F22l6U12@mid.individual.net>

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2023 19:35:31 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


Well, I like speed and radical g-forces. My normal driving makes people
sick.

The city got onto a roundabout kick a few years ago. I look at them as
challenges either in a car or on a motorcycle. I learned to drive on dirt
roads and have no problem drifting through a turn. I just like my feet
firmly attached to the ground.

You must not have much traffic where you are. I invariably encounter
some old lady stopped in the approach to the roundabout, waiting for
traffic to disappear.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-05-11 15:48, Bob F wrote:

On 5/11/2023 5:19 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-05-11 11:31, Tim W wrote:
On Thu, 11 May 2023 01:19:16 +0100, Fredxx wrote:


If you had tyres, you could get rid of the rails. Do you think it\'ll
catch on?

Doesn\'t the Paris Metro have tyred plate-ways?

Yes - at least one line did in the 70s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jackal_(1997_film)

The last minutes, as the bad guy tries to flee in the Metro, it has
rubber wheels. Supposedly in the Washington Metro, but I have never
been there so I don\'t know.

Google says it is the Radisson Metro Station in Montréal, Canada.

Looking at the photos, you can see the rails are special.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Radisson_station

I have not found photos of the car wheels. Ah, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQV3euafZ8


There is a big difference between a light rail passenger car and a
railroad locomotive.

True.

Locomotives could use rubber soles to increase traction, while the
wagons could keep the metal ones to decrease friction. The locomotive
could be lighter, then.

Actually, I have a toy train that does just that :-D



--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 22/05/2023 12:46, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2023-05-11 15:48, Bob F wrote:
On 5/11/2023 5:19 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-05-11 11:31, Tim W wrote:
On Thu, 11 May 2023 01:19:16 +0100, Fredxx wrote:


If you had tyres, you could get rid of the rails. Do you think it\'ll
catch on?

Doesn\'t the Paris Metro have tyred plate-ways?

Yes - at least one line did in the 70s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jackal_(1997_film)

The last minutes, as the bad guy tries to flee in the Metro, it has
rubber wheels. Supposedly in the Washington Metro, but I have never
been there so I don\'t know.

Google says it is the Radisson Metro Station in Montréal, Canada.

Looking at the photos, you can see the rails are special.

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Radisson_station

I have not found photos of the car wheels. Ah, here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJQV3euafZ8


There is a big difference between a light rail passenger car and a
railroad locomotive.

True.

Locomotives could use rubber soles to increase traction, while the
wagons could keep the metal ones to decrease friction. The locomotive
could be lighter, then.

The tyres wouldnt last ten miles. Which is probably as far as your model
loco has ever travelled in its life.

Actually, I have a toy train that does just that :-D

James Mays 5 mile toy train line destroyed the brand new locos didnt it?

--
The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before
its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about.

Anon.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-03-30 18:17, Max Demian wrote:

On 30/03/2023 14:10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 13:48:56 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

there has to be an amplifier and isolation between the outlets

You can buy an amplifier with multiple outputs.

Someone has to make sure the amplifier can cope with short circuits in
the output.
s
in case someone shorts the output or feeds DC into the wire. (Some TVs
provide DC, 5 or 12V for a masthead amplifier. It won\'t be needed, but
the option to turn it on and off will be buried in the menus somewhere.)

NEver known if such weirdness.  I just feed the amp with power where
it is instead of running it through the aerial wire.

It doesn\'t matter what you want to do. The fact is, some TVs and PVRs
have the facility and the option could be on by accident or default.

I confirm this.

It is the standard here, if you have your own antena, to feed power to
the antena amplifier via the aerial coax cable. It can be done by
inserting a special power supply in the cable when it enters the house
(a capacitor isolates the DC on the inner side), or the TV set does that.

What I do not know is what would happen to other TV sets in the same cable.

You can\'t expect Mrs Miggins of flat 4 to understand such
technicalities. That\'s why it\'s easier for each user to have his/her own
aerial. Cooperation required organisation.

Yep.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-05-19 03:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 02:30:32 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 12:17:02 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 21:15:32 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:49:33 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:13:39 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

If you drive a car on private property, you don\'t have to wear a seat
belt, or obey a speed limit, or have a drivers\' license.

Cars could be programmed to not go over 35 MPH if the driver isn\'t
using his seat belt. Car makers should do that to avoid liability for
injury and death.

The equivalent was tried in the 1970s, with seat belts.  There were
lots of malfunctions and stranded motorists.

Technology has advanced in the last 50 years.

But actual reliability has not improved at all, partly because it\'s
all software these days, but also because most cars are sold a bit too
soon in their development process, letting customer do the early field
testing.

Cars are vastly more reliable than they were 50 years ago. I don\'t
suppose you remember filing and gapping points, replacing fouled spark
plugs,

I\'ve used cars as old as 1988, and every time I\'ve tried replacing spark
plugs it didn\'t help.  I guess that is recent enough so they don\'t foul
up (even with carburettors).

replacing oil and filter every few thousand miles,

I never replace either of those.  I\'ve run cars for 100K miles without
doing so.

I wondered who was the owner of this car. Now I know: it is you!

https://youtu.be/GjwNoLyr3SM?t=11

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 19 May 2023 02:02:53 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 02:30:32 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 06 Apr 2023 12:17:02 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 21:15:32 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 13:49:33 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 10:13:39 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

If you drive a car on private property, you don\'t have to wear a seat
belt, or obey a speed limit, or have a drivers\' license.

Cars could be programmed to not go over 35 MPH if the driver isn\'t
using his seat belt. Car makers should do that to avoid liability for
injury and death.

The equivalent was tried in the 1970s, with seat belts. There were
lots of malfunctions and stranded motorists.

Technology has advanced in the last 50 years.

But actual reliability has not improved at all, partly because it\'s
all software these days, but also because most cars are sold a bit too
soon in their development process, letting customer do the early field
testing.

Cars are vastly more reliable than they were 50 years ago. I don\'t
suppose you remember filing and gapping points, replacing fouled spark
plugs,

I\'ve used cars as old as 1988, and every time I\'ve tried replacing spark plugs it didn\'t help. I guess that is recent enough so they don\'t foul up (even with carburettors).

Leaded gas fouled plugs, and electronic ignitions make lots of
millijoules.

replacing oil and filter every few thousand miles,

I never replace either of those. I\'ve run cars for 100K miles without doing so.

My dealer does it in my annual service. It does start to look dirty by
then.

fixing flats,

What? Tyres still break, that hasn\'t changed.

I\'ve worn out tires on my 2008 Audi but never had a flat. I did have
to replace the silly electronic pressure sensors; the batteries
eventually die.

topping off the battery,

I\'m not old enough for that, but my current car runs the battery flat in 4 hours. French electrics, probably the alarm, which is impossible to access.

things breaking.

They still do, but I used to scrap a car at 11 years, my current car is 21 years old and I\'m not considering scrapping for quite a few years yet, even though it\'s French.

I take my car in once a year for service.

I see no reason to fix what isn\'t broken.

They check everything so prevent problems on the road. It\'s worth
fixing things on a predictable time frame. I\'ve never had a breakdown.

It has never failed to go
and never had a flat tire. The headlights are original, 2008.

My 2002 headlights are pitiful, very smogged up inside, for some reason it still passes the MOT. I had a previous car fail on that. They\'re less than half as bright as they should be. I\'ve taken to using full beam but adjusting it down a bit. Not sure why that works, since they\'re the same wattage.

I\'d have expected my gas discharge lights with electronic drives to
break by now, but they haven\'t. The covers haven\'t fogged up, which I
see a lot on some cars.

Several of the small lights, incandescents, have failed, but I
replaced all of them at once so they should be good for several years.
Most are LEDs now.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 22 May 2023 08:46:19 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Sun, 21 May 2023 19:35:31 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


Well, I like speed and radical g-forces. My normal driving makes people
sick.

The city got onto a roundabout kick a few years ago. I look at them as
challenges either in a car or on a motorcycle. I learned to drive on dirt
roads and have no problem drifting through a turn. I just like my feet
firmly attached to the ground.

You must not have much traffic where you are. I invariably encounter
some old lady stopped in the approach to the roundabout, waiting for
traffic to disappear.

People here in California handle roundabouts (aka traffic circles)
pretty well. They are better than waiting minutes for lights to
sequence. But not many people drift them. DGMS on driving in Boston or
New Jersey.

I drove OK in Ireland, on the wrong side of the horrible roads, but
the roundabouts were challenging.