Whingeing retail billionaires and the 10% GST

Phil Allison wrote:

"me here"

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?


** Be dead easy for Gary Johnston of Jaycar to show with a ** proper
costing ** that at $6 a piece - his business is actually LOSING
money on each such lamp sold through a retail store.



.... Phil
So you recon Jaycar should sell the item to the public at a price
greater than $6 so they can make a profit, for something that you can
buy for 90 cents elsewhere?

You have got to be kidding.



--
 
"me here" <gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d0f1447$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
So you recon Jaycar should sell the item to the public at a price
greater than $6 so they can make a profit, for something that you can
buy for 90 cents elsewhere?
He can charge whatever he likes in a capitalist society, and the less he
sells, the greater his cost of stocking them. Since you can already buy a
pack of two in any Bunnings store for less than one at Jaycar, (and there's
bound to be cheaper than Bunnings even if you are not interested in buying
ten on the internet) I'd say it's simply up to the consumer to take their
business elsewhere and let Jaycar worry about their inventory costs and
sales. Let's face it, you should only buy items at Jaycar that you can't get
(conveniently) anywhere else.

MrT.
 
On 20/12/2010 7:53 PM, Mr.T wrote:
"me here"<gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d0f1447$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
So you recon Jaycar should sell the item to the public at a price
greater than $6 so they can make a profit, for something that you can
buy for 90 cents elsewhere?

He can charge whatever he likes in a capitalist society, and the less he
sells, the greater his cost of stocking them. Since you can already buy a
pack of two in any Bunnings store for less than one at Jaycar, (and there's
bound to be cheaper than Bunnings even if you are not interested in buying
ten on the internet) I'd say it's simply up to the consumer to take their
business elsewhere and let Jaycar worry about their inventory costs and
sales. Let's face it, you should only buy items at Jaycar that you can't get
(conveniently) anywhere else.

MrT.


I find locally a lot of electrical goods are becoming compeditive ,
comparing ebay price to local available gets within a few % , as for
jaycar well there are plenty of places to buy if you plan and that's all
that's required to save a small fortune , try buying big rf power
mossfets online then compare to local supply

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"me here is a cunt "
Phil Allison wrote:


"me here"

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?


** Be dead easy for Gary Johnston of Jaycar to show with a ** proper
costing ** that at $6 a piece - his business is actually LOSING
money on each such lamp sold through a retail store.



.... Phil

So you recon Jaycar....

** No.

Go fuck your dog - you trolling arsehole.
 
On Dec 20, 4:35 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
kreed wrote:
On Dec 20, 12:54 pm, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinn...@kan
garooistan.com.au> wrote:
jg wrote:

Online shops have a number of trading advantages, absence of GST
is just one more for some.

Depends on where they are. Or didn't you know that?

--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour
recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob
Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the
governor general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining
about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic
capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Nothing to stop Harvey norman and co from doing the same.

Why would they want to when they can charge like wounded bulls.

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?

And they recon 10% GST is going to make a difference.
The retailers plan may simply be to tie down online sales with red-
tape.
 
Eunometic wrote:
On Dec 20, 4:35 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
kreed wrote:
On Dec 20, 12:54 pm, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinn...@kan
garooistan.com.au> wrote:
jg wrote:

Online shops have a number of trading advantages, absence of GST
is just one more for some.

Depends on where they are. Or didn't you know that?

--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour
recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob
Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the
governor general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining
about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic
capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Nothing to stop Harvey norman and co from doing the same.

Why would they want to when they can charge like wounded bulls.

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?

And they recon 10% GST is going to make a difference.


The retailers plan may simply be to tie down online sales with red-
tape.
**********************************

In any case, the GST is a globalist tax
designed to shift the tax burden away from
the landed gentry and onto general enterprise.

It has really worked too:-

Australia's private debt to GDP ratios

How the real estate Ponzi scheme debt-bubble
is shaping up for the Aussie sheeple.

Australia's colossal exponential rise of private
debt as percentage of GDP from 1969-2008 makes
Government debt look miniscule.

Ratio of Debt / GDP ___________________________ Year

::150% ________________________________________ 2008
::140% _______________________________________ 2006
::130% ______________________________________ 2005
::120% _____________________________________ 2004
::110% __________________________________ 2001
::100% _________________________________ 2000
:::90% ______________________________ 1998
:::80% ___________________________ 1995
:::70% ____________________ 1988
:::60% __________________ 1986
:::50% _______________ 1983
:::40% ________ 1976
:::30% _ 1969


**********************
 
"me here" <gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4d0edd24$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
kreed wrote:

On Dec 20, 12:54 pm, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinn...@kan
garooistan.com.au> wrote:
jg wrote:

Online shops have a number of trading advantages, absence of GST
is just one more for some.

Depends on where they are. Or didn't you know that?

--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour
recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob
Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the
governor general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining
about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic
capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Nothing to stop Harvey norman and co from doing the same.

Why would they want to when they can charge like wounded bulls.

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?

And they recon 10% GST is going to make a difference.

Pure greeeeeed Harvey.

Those 12V G4 halogen bulbs are sold from time-to-time in the supermarkets
over here (Europe) for under 2 Euro per pack of 6. They come in 10W or 20W.
So they are very cheap from the supplier. Jaycar, of course, has to keep
them in stock all year which adds to the cost. The supermarkets also sell
(again, from time-to-time) a neat little telescopic desk lamp which has a
hemispherical base containg a 12V 20W trannie, an inbuilt mains switch
and a reflector with a 20W halogen G4 bulb. The price ? Just 5 Euro.
IKEA used to sell these desk lamps in Oz for a similar price. They are great for
a cheap 12vAC PS, you just unscrew the telescopic bits and install a couple
of banana sockets - no soldering required. Much better than a plug-pack 'coz
it's got a mains switch and is 20W.
 
"me here" <gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4d0fc759$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
fritz wrote:


"me here" <gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d0edd24$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
kreed wrote:

On Dec 20, 12:54 pm, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinn...
@kan
garooistan.com.au> wrote:
jg wrote:

Online shops have a number of trading advantages, absence of GST
is just one more for some.

Depends on where they are. Or didn't you know that?

--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour
recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob
Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save
the >>> governor general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining
about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic
capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Nothing to stop Harvey norman and co from doing the same.

Why would they want to when they can charge like wounded bulls.

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?

And they recon 10% GST is going to make a difference.

Pure greeeeeed Harvey.


Those 12V G4 halogen bulbs are sold from time-to-time in the
supermarkets over here (Europe) for under 2 Euro per pack of 6. They
come in 10W or 20W. So they are very cheap from the supplier.
Jaycar, of course, has to keep them in stock all year which adds to
the cost. The supermarkets also sell (again, from time-to-time) a
neat little telescopic desk lamp which has a hemispherical base
containg a 12V 20W trannie, an inbuilt mains switch and a reflector
with a 20W halogen G4 bulb. The price ? Just 5 Euro. IKEA used to
sell these desk lamps in Oz for a similar price. They are great for a
cheap 12vAC PS, you just unscrew the telescopic bits and install a
couple of banana sockets - no soldering required. Much better than a
plug-pack 'coz it's got a mains switch and is 20W.


Yes, that's the one I have.

Cost $13 from BigW - from memory.
The prices for similar-looking lamps vary enormously - from the $5 or so
that I've seen up to $40 or more - google 'telescopic desk lamp 12V 20W'
Even at $13 it's still bargain for a 12V 20W trannie, mounted in a nice box
with pre-wired mains cord and mains power switch, eh ?

Great little lamp.

Interestingly the telescopic metal arms that hold the lamp head carry
the voltage and are uninsulated "live" (12 volt only) - never seen that
before.
--
Yeah - but the chrome finish seems to have a coating that does insulate
to some extent - you can grab them without any tingle. Mine did come
with a warning tag not to hang a metal chain off the arms - I assume the
sharp edges of a chain could penetrate the coating.

BTW Check out the price of 12V 20W G4 halogens from this German supplier.

http://such001.reichelt.de/?SID=22@cBYdt6wQARYAAB1Wxrab7dbf2207991b000c91163a5c3d2ecc;ACTION=444

They also have hipo LEDs to replace halogens in G4 form - bit pricey, though.
 
fritz wrote:

"me here" <gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4d0edd24$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
kreed wrote:

On Dec 20, 12:54 pm, "Dr Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF"
Trollene.the.liar.has.had.more.kook.outs.than.ive.had.hot.dinn...
@kan
garooistan.com.au> wrote:
jg wrote:

Online shops have a number of trading advantages, absence of GST
is just one more for some.

Depends on where they are. Or didn't you know that?

--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour
recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob
Hawke responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save
the >>> governor general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining
about his appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic
capabilities.

"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.

"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott

Nothing to stop Harvey norman and co from doing the same.

Why would they want to when they can charge like wounded bulls.

OK this is an example regarding JayCar.

The 12 volt 20 odd watt small two pin halogen bulb died in the desk
lamp.

Jaycar price about $6 (from 2010 catalogue)

Ebay price for TEN of the same (Philips brand) $9 delivered.

So Ebay price is 90 cents for something Jaycar sell for $6.

Flamin hell, is that some sort of mark up or what?

And they recon 10% GST is going to make a difference.

Pure greeeeeed Harvey.


Those 12V G4 halogen bulbs are sold from time-to-time in the
supermarkets over here (Europe) for under 2 Euro per pack of 6. They
come in 10W or 20W. So they are very cheap from the supplier.
Jaycar, of course, has to keep them in stock all year which adds to
the cost. The supermarkets also sell (again, from time-to-time) a
neat little telescopic desk lamp which has a hemispherical base
containg a 12V 20W trannie, an inbuilt mains switch and a reflector
with a 20W halogen G4 bulb. The price ? Just 5 Euro. IKEA used to
sell these desk lamps in Oz for a similar price. They are great for a
cheap 12vAC PS, you just unscrew the telescopic bits and install a
couple of banana sockets - no soldering required. Much better than a
plug-pack 'coz it's got a mains switch and is 20W.

Yes, that's the one I have.

Cost $13 from BigW - from memory.

Great little lamp.

Interestingly the telescopic metal arms that hold the lamp head carry
the voltage and are uninsulated "live" (12 volt only) - never seen that
before.
--
 
"fritz" <yaputya@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:ieoisr$2p3$02$2@news.t-online.com...
BTW Check out the price of 12V 20W G4 halogens from this German supplier.

http://such001.reichelt.de/?SID=22@cBYdt6wQARYAAB1Wxrab7dbf2207991b000c91163a5c3d2ecc;ACTION=444

They also have hipo LEDs to replace halogens in G4 form - bit pricey, though.
Hmmm - That link is no good- try this
http://www.reichelt.de/?ACTION=2;GROUPID=3970;SHOW=1;SID=22@cBYdt6wQARYAAB1Wxrab7dbf2207991b000c91163a5c3d2ecc
 
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:24:52 +1000, "SG1" <lostitall@the.races> wrote:

"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
news:8n7g3kFi9bU1@mid.individual.net...
Whingeing retail billionaires and the 10% GST
(snip)
And Australia Post is going broke because ordinary mail is being overtaken
by email. What about all the packages that are being delivered from
overseas that Gerry Harvey keeps telling us about. You can't have it both
ways.

Check with AP as to wether they get paid for those os packages. You may get
a suprise??
They may be losing a buck or two on their letter service (the reason
they give for the planned closure of 27 PO's) but they must surely be
making a killing on domestic small parcels courtesy of fleabay.
 
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:36:54 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Whilst I applaud the sentiment, I doubt that the problem lies only with
retailers. Importers of certain high profile brands are probably making very
large profits.
Then shirley the Gerry Harveys should be street-smart enough to
threaten to bypass them and import direct (like K-Mart et al) if they
don't smarten up their pricing to him.
 
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:13:43 +1100, Clifford Heath
<no@spam.please.net> wrote:

Don McKenzie wrote:
On 20-Dec-10 3:06 PM, Clifford Heath wrote:
AP is making handsome profits from their hundreds of business
lines.
They claim they are loosing money on their letter posting section, and
Is that better?

Yes. That doesn't mean they actually *are* losing money though.
It could just be a play to get postage rates increased. Impossible
to know.

In general, I'm supportive of your main gripe. Large retailers
have massive economies of scale wrt transport compared to individual
orders, but that has never been enough - they've always been happy
to rape both the Australian populace and foreign producers. Especially
the clothing industry, which has markups of up to 100x.

If Internet ordering forces them to derive their profits from their
actual operations, instead of from their ongoing abuse of market power,
that's an excellent thing in my book. Free trade working correctly.

After these excesses start to be equalised, they might have a point
about GST exemption for private imports (although the economies
mentioned, and the convenience of local display and backup, should
be enough for them to still run at handsome margins). Until then
however, definitely not.
My son just ordered some fairly schmick leathers for his bike-riding.
Was over $1200 here in Oz, he's getting the absolutely identical
product from the USA for a tad over $500 including shipping.
 
On 21/12/2010 11:37 AM, who where wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:13:43 +1100, Clifford Heath


My son just ordered some fairly schmick leathers for his bike-riding.
Was over $1200 here in Oz, he's getting the absolutely identical
product from the USA for a tad over $500 including shipping.
I wonder where the saving is made if a locally made product or is it an
import made in china ?

--
X-No-Archive: Yes
 
who where wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:36:54 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Whilst I applaud the sentiment, I doubt that the problem lies only
with retailers. Importers of certain high profile brands are
probably making very large profits.

Then shirley the Gerry Harveys should be street-smart enough to
threaten to bypass them and import direct (like K-Mart et al) if they
don't smarten up their pricing to him.
**Many successful retailers do just that. However, there is a point where
such a thing becomes very difficult to manage. If Hardly was to import a
large number of the brands he sells, he would be doing several things:

* Financially exposing the organisation to massive overheads (products are
usually purchased on a 30 day account, whereas importers must pay either
when the product leaves port, or when it arrives in store).
* Warranty service (and the attendent stocking of spares for several years)
must be maintained.
* Service and technical people would need to be employed.
* Some importers may be pissed off and remove their products from Hardly.
This particularly applies to big, well advertised brands. And this is very
important. Guys like Sony, Panasonic, LG, Samsung, et al advertise all over
the planet. Local advertising may only reach a small percentage of the
population, whereas international advertising may reach more people.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
"Trevor Wilson"
<
Then shirley the Gerry Harveys should be street-smart enough to
threaten to bypass them and import direct (like K-Mart et al) if they
don't smarten up their pricing to him.

**Many successful retailers do just that. However, there is a point where
such a thing becomes very difficult to manage. If Hardly was to import a
large number of the brands he sells, he would be doing several things:

* Financially exposing the organisation to massive overheads (products are
usually purchased on a 30 day account, whereas importers must pay either
when the product leaves port, or when it arrives in store).
* Warranty service (and the attendent stocking of spares for several
years) must be maintained.

* Service and technical people would need to be employed.

* Some importers may be pissed off and remove their products from Hardly.
This particularly applies to big, well advertised brands. And this is very
important. Guys like Sony, Panasonic, LG, Samsung, et al advertise all
over the planet. Local advertising may only reach a small percentage of
the population, whereas international advertising may reach more people.


** The mains issue is that most major brands simply will not supply
retailers direct - they have contractual arrangements in place with their
Aussie branch offices or have appointed local import agents they wish to
support for many good reasons.


..... Phil
 
fritz wrote:

"fritz" <yaputya@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ieoisr$2p3$02$2@news.t-online.com...
BTW Check out the price of 12V 20W G4 halogens from this German
supplier.

http://such001.reichelt.de/?SID=22@cBYdt6wQARYAAB1Wxrab7dbf2207991b0
00c91163a5c3d2ecc;ACTION=444

They also have hipo LEDs to replace halogens in G4 form - bit
pricey, though.

Hmmm - That link is no good- try this
http://www.reichelt.de/?ACTION=2;GROUPID=3970;SHOW=1;SID=22@cBYdt6wQAR
YAAB1Wxrab7dbf2207991b000c91163a5c3d2ecc

Crikey, that makes the $6 one look incredibly expensive.

I just checked mine with a multimeterand the telescopic arms are not
insulated. The current is AC.

Being 12 volt and low amperage it's unlikely you would feel a tingle.

I recollect mine had a message to say don't put metal across the arms.

It's labelled as a Kambrook.




--
 
On Dec 21, 11:56 am, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
who where wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:36:54 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Whilst I applaud the sentiment, I doubt that the problem lies only
with retailers. Importers of certain high profile brands are
probably making very large profits.

Then shirley the Gerry Harveys should be street-smart enough to
threaten to bypass them and import direct (like K-Mart et al) if they
don't smarten up their pricing to him.

**Many successful retailers do just that. However, there is a point where
such a thing becomes very difficult to manage. If Hardly was to import a
large number of the brands he sells, he would be doing several things:

* Financially exposing the organisation to massive overheads (products are
usually purchased on a 30 day account, whereas importers must pay either
when the product leaves port, or when it arrives in store).
* Warranty service (and the attendent stocking of spares for several years)
must be maintained.
* Service and technical people would need to be employed.
* Some importers may be pissed off and remove their products from Hardly.
This particularly applies to big, well advertised brands. And this is very
important. Guys like Sony, Panasonic, LG, Samsung, et al advertise all over
the planet. Local advertising may only reach a small percentage of the
population, whereas international advertising may reach more people.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With used equipment, If you have a registered company here and in
another country, (with better pricing than here)
you can get around the parallel import bullshit, by importing as
"transferring stock within the organisation"
Know someone who did this in the 1990s and made a lot of money out of
it, bypassing the rorts
in place that doubled the prices on the same gear.

Only reason he is not still doing it is that he retired ;).
Whether it can be done with "new" gear I don't know.


On the other hand It's also quite possible that the major retailers
are already getting excellent deals on
their imported products, and just not passing them on to the
consumer.
 
"who where" <noone@home.net> wrote in message
news:1k00h69mt0tc9nbnp4ss7nm3pv907rflv4@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:24:52 +1000, "SG1" <lostitall@the.races> wrote:


"Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
news:8n7g3kFi9bU1@mid.individual.net...
Whingeing retail billionaires and the 10% GST
(snip)
And Australia Post is going broke because ordinary mail is being
overtaken
by email. What about all the packages that are being delivered from
overseas that Gerry Harvey keeps telling us about. You can't have it
both
ways.

Check with AP as to wether they get paid for those os packages. You may
get
a suprise??

They may be losing a buck or two on their letter service (the reason
they give for the planned closure of 27 PO's) but they must surely be
making a killing on domestic small parcels courtesy of fleabay.
Yes domestic. Nothing on os mail. Same os they get sfa from AP.
 
On 21/12/2010 1:35 PM, kreed wrote:
On Dec 21, 11:56 am, "Trevor Wilson"<tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:
who where wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:36:54 +1100, "Trevor Wilson"
tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Whilst I applaud the sentiment, I doubt that the problem lies only
with retailers. Importers of certain high profile brands are
probably making very large profits.

Then shirley the Gerry Harveys should be street-smart enough to
threaten to bypass them and import direct (like K-Mart et al) if they
don't smarten up their pricing to him.

**Many successful retailers do just that. However, there is a point where
such a thing becomes very difficult to manage. If Hardly was to import a
large number of the brands he sells, he would be doing several things:

* Financially exposing the organisation to massive overheads (products are
usually purchased on a 30 day account, whereas importers must pay either
when the product leaves port, or when it arrives in store).
* Warranty service (and the attendent stocking of spares for several years)
must be maintained.
* Service and technical people would need to be employed.
* Some importers may be pissed off and remove their products from Hardly.
This particularly applies to big, well advertised brands. And this is very
important. Guys like Sony, Panasonic, LG, Samsung, et al advertise all over
the planet. Local advertising may only reach a small percentage of the
population, whereas international advertising may reach more people.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au


With used equipment, If you have a registered company here and in
another country, (with better pricing than here)
you can get around the parallel import bullshit, by importing as
"transferring stock within the organisation"
Know someone who did this in the 1990s and made a lot of money out of
it, bypassing the rorts
in place that doubled the prices on the same gear.

Only reason he is not still doing it is that he retired ;).
Whether it can be done with "new" gear I don't know.


On the other hand It's also quite possible that the major retailers
are already getting excellent deals on
their imported products, and just not passing them on to the
consumer.
Two products I can compare are Asics running shoes, and Genuine Epson
printer inks.

Running Shoes are $260 inc GST here, yet $130 all taxes paid in a
regular store transaction in the US. Printer Inks $360 here inc GST Same
product in the US $220 regular price. Push bike parts are 1/2 to 1/3
less from the UK or US incl freight.

None of these products have been reduced by retailers to reflect the
Australian dollar value.
 

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