What is a women?...

[amdx]

On 3/27/2022 9:36 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:53:05 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 6:24 AM, John Doe wrote:
Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
amdx wrote:
Rickster wrote:
amdx wrote:
What is the primary purpose for a woman\'s breasts?
They are an evolved feature. Every female of every mammalian species has them, and the general opinion is that they are useful for feeding infants. Asking what their \"primary purpose\" is asserts that the evolutionary process has a purpose, which is the sort of error that intelligent design enthusiasts go in for.

So it was the kind of silly question you\'d expect from John Doe.

Before or after a male hits puberty?
And this is an even sillier response.

 Does that mean you got the humor or did just whoosh by your humorless
personality?

                                     Mikek

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[amdx]

On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:

On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
There\'s no social justice involved though you and John Doe might
not be so quite so insistent on your mistaken ideas if you weren\'t
intent on being unkind to people you don\'t approve of.
If you want social justice you don\'t let a few a previous men
compete against the many women that have worked their whole lives
to compete.
Why is it you don\'t hear about transsexuals that were a woman and
transformed to a \"man\" now competing and taking medals from the men
they are competing against?
Because they grew up as women they don\'t have the same body
characteristics and strengths as a man born as a man. Testosterone
is not enough to give a woman the bone
strength, muscle strength, etc to make her the equal of a man in
competition. Just as if you grew up as a man and you take away
testosterone, you still have most of those
same characteristics that you were born with that allow you to run
away (steal) the medals from the woman.
 It is a matter of being fair to the life long women.

  In my case it has nothing to do with not approving of
transsexuals or being unkind, clearly they are uncomfortable in the
body they have and I\'m sure that is difficult,
but that is not a reason to let them steal medals from young strong
hard working women.
   An interesting and confounding case is Jazz, she was put on
testosterone blockers at a very early age. Physically you don\'t see
any male characteristics, she never developed
the physical changes a male has at puberty. Because of the early
testosterone blockers the vulvoplasty surgery had complications
because of lack of  \"material\" to work with.
I doubt very much that she would have any of the male
characteristics to compete and win against women.

Mikek

Very few women work their whole livest to compete in sporting events.

I just went back and re-posted my whole post that you clipped.
You seemed to have had a real failure in rebuttal, are you changing your
opinion on this subject.
Maybe we can come to an agreement to help these transsexuals without
scarring our young women.

                                          Mikek


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[Liz Tuddenham]

<jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

One thing that impresses me is how critters with various genetic
defects still survive. There is something extraordinarily adaptive
about DNA-based life.

The misunderstanding is because people try to put value judgements on
genetic variations. They are just variation, not defects.

If the orginism survives, they are neutral variations; if it does better
or worse because of them, they are advantageous or disadvantageous
variations. Which they are will depend on the circumstances and may be
different in different environments.


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[Liz Tuddenham]

amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
There\'s no social justice involved though you and John Doe might
not be so quite so insistent on your mistaken ideas if you weren\'t
intent on being unkind to people you don\'t approve of.
If you want social justice you don\'t let a few a previous men
compete against the many women that have worked their whole lives
to compete.
Why is it you don\'t hear about transsexuals that were a woman and
transformed to a \"man\" now competing and taking medals from the men
they are competing against?
Because they grew up as women they don\'t have the same body
characteristics and strengths as a man born as a man. Testosterone
is not enough to give a woman the bone
strength, muscle strength, etc to make her the equal of a man in
competition. Just as if you grew up as a man and you take away
testosterone, you still have most of those
same characteristics that you were born with that allow you to run
away (steal) the medals from the woman.
 It is a matter of being fair to the life long women.

  In my case it has nothing to do with not approving of
transsexuals or being unkind, clearly they are uncomfortable in the
body they have and I\'m sure that is difficult,
but that is not a reason to let them steal medals from young strong
hard working women.
   An interesting and confounding case is Jazz, she was put on
testosterone blockers at a very early age. Physically you don\'t see
any male characteristics, she never developed
the physical changes a male has at puberty. Because of the early
testosterone blockers the vulvoplasty surgery had complications
because of lack of  \"material\" to work with.
I doubt very much that she would have any of the male
characteristics to compete and win against women.

Mikek

Very few women work their whole livest to compete in sporting events.



I just went back and re-posted my whole post that you clipped.
You seemed to have had a real failure in rebuttal, are you changing your
opinion on this subject.
Maybe we can come to an agreement to help these transsexuals without
scarring our young women.

Sport is inherently unfair, which is why some sort of \'evening-up\' is
needed to make competition work. Basing the categories on real
parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport, would be a much
fairer way than basing it on what the midwife saw when the baby was
born.


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[amdx]

On 3/27/2022 11:55 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
There\'s no social justice involved though you and John Doe might
not be so quite so insistent on your mistaken ideas if you weren\'t
intent on being unkind to people you don\'t approve of.
If you want social justice you don\'t let a few a previous men
compete against the many women that have worked their whole lives
to compete.
Why is it you don\'t hear about transsexuals that were a woman and
transformed to a \"man\" now competing and taking medals from the men
they are competing against?
Because they grew up as women they don\'t have the same body
characteristics and strengths as a man born as a man. Testosterone
is not enough to give a woman the bone
strength, muscle strength, etc to make her the equal of a man in
competition. Just as if you grew up as a man and you take away
testosterone, you still have most of those
same characteristics that you were born with that allow you to run
away (steal) the medals from the woman.
 It is a matter of being fair to the life long women.

  In my case it has nothing to do with not approving of
transsexuals or being unkind, clearly they are uncomfortable in the
body they have and I\'m sure that is difficult,
but that is not a reason to let them steal medals from young strong
hard working women.
   An interesting and confounding case is Jazz, she was put on
testosterone blockers at a very early age. Physically you don\'t see
any male characteristics, she never developed
the physical changes a male has at puberty. Because of the early
testosterone blockers the vulvoplasty surgery had complications
because of lack of  \"material\" to work with.
I doubt very much that she would have any of the male
characteristics to compete and win against women.

Mikek
Very few women work their whole livest to compete in sporting events.

I just went back and re-posted my whole post that you clipped.
You seemed to have had a real failure in rebuttal, are you changing your
opinion on this subject.
Maybe we can come to an agreement to help these transsexuals without
scarring our young women.

Sport is inherently unfair, which is why some sort of \'evening-up\' is
needed to make competition work. Basing the categories on real
parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport, would be a much
fairer way than basing it on what the midwife saw when the baby was
born.

 I\'m not sure I really follow that, you go to a high school and join
the football team, you play if you\'re good enough. You go to a university
and you getting close to the cream of human abilities, there is no
evening up.
 Where is the evening up it Professional sports, if you don\'t excel,
you don\'t play.

Basing the categories on real parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport,

Yes, and the heavier, longer bone, or whatever happens to be appropriate for the particular sport,
are, the previous men parading as women and stealing medals and glory from females.

Mikek





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[Liz Tuddenham]

amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:55 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
There\'s no social justice involved though you and John Doe might
not be so quite so insistent on your mistaken ideas if you weren\'t
intent on being unkind to people you don\'t approve of.
If you want social justice you don\'t let a few a previous men
compete against the many women that have worked their whole lives
to compete.
Why is it you don\'t hear about transsexuals that were a woman and
transformed to a \"man\" now competing and taking medals from the men
they are competing against?
Because they grew up as women they don\'t have the same body
characteristics and strengths as a man born as a man. Testosterone
is not enough to give a woman the bone
strength, muscle strength, etc to make her the equal of a man in
competition. Just as if you grew up as a man and you take away
testosterone, you still have most of those
same characteristics that you were born with that allow you to run
away (steal) the medals from the woman.
 It is a matter of being fair to the life long women.

  In my case it has nothing to do with not approving of
transsexuals or being unkind, clearly they are uncomfortable in the
body they have and I\'m sure that is difficult,
but that is not a reason to let them steal medals from young strong
hard working women.
   An interesting and confounding case is Jazz, she was put on
testosterone blockers at a very early age. Physically you don\'t see
any male characteristics, she never developed
the physical changes a male has at puberty. Because of the early
testosterone blockers the vulvoplasty surgery had complications
because of lack of  \"material\" to work with.
I doubt very much that she would have any of the male
characteristics to compete and win against women.

Mikek
Very few women work their whole livest to compete in sporting events.

I just went back and re-posted my whole post that you clipped.
You seemed to have had a real failure in rebuttal, are you changing your
opinion on this subject.
Maybe we can come to an agreement to help these transsexuals without
scarring our young women.

Sport is inherently unfair, which is why some sort of \'evening-up\' is
needed to make competition work. Basing the categories on real
parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport, would be a much
fairer way than basing it on what the midwife saw when the baby was
born.


 I\'m not sure I really follow that, you go to a high school and join
the football team, you play if you\'re good enough. You go to a university
and you getting close to the cream of human abilities, there is no
evening up.
 Where is the evening up it Professional sports, if you don\'t excel,
you don\'t play.

In some sports there are categories of players, otherwise accident of
physical development would make it not worth competing for most players.

Basing the categories on real parameters, such as weight, muscle
percentage, bone length or whatever happens to be appropriate for the
particular sport,

Yes, and the heavier, longer bone, or whatever happens to be appropriate
for the particular sport, are, the previous men parading as women and
stealing medals and glory from females.

Male/Female is an inaccurate substitute for the real cause of the
unfairness, which is physical development. By categorising players by
the actual characteristics that are most appropriate to the sport, you
would get a much fairer system. It is done in horse racing and some
other sports, so it isn\'t exactly a revolutionary idea.


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[amdx]

On 3/27/2022 2:37 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:

amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:55 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
There\'s no social justice involved though you and John Doe might
not be so quite so insistent on your mistaken ideas if you weren\'t
intent on being unkind to people you don\'t approve of.
If you want social justice you don\'t let a few a previous men
compete against the many women that have worked their whole lives
to compete.
Why is it you don\'t hear about transsexuals that were a woman and
transformed to a \"man\" now competing and taking medals from the men
they are competing against?
Because they grew up as women they don\'t have the same body
characteristics and strengths as a man born as a man. Testosterone
is not enough to give a woman the bone
strength, muscle strength, etc to make her the equal of a man in
competition. Just as if you grew up as a man and you take away
testosterone, you still have most of those
same characteristics that you were born with that allow you to run
away (steal) the medals from the woman.
 It is a matter of being fair to the life long women.

  In my case it has nothing to do with not approving of
transsexuals or being unkind, clearly they are uncomfortable in the
body they have and I\'m sure that is difficult,
but that is not a reason to let them steal medals from young strong
hard working women.
   An interesting and confounding case is Jazz, she was put on
testosterone blockers at a very early age. Physically you don\'t see
any male characteristics, she never developed
the physical changes a male has at puberty. Because of the early
testosterone blockers the vulvoplasty surgery had complications
because of lack of  \"material\" to work with.
I doubt very much that she would have any of the male
characteristics to compete and win against women.

Mikek
Very few women work their whole livest to compete in sporting events.
I just went back and re-posted my whole post that you clipped.
You seemed to have had a real failure in rebuttal, are you changing your
opinion on this subject.
Maybe we can come to an agreement to help these transsexuals without
scarring our young women.
Sport is inherently unfair, which is why some sort of \'evening-up\' is
needed to make competition work. Basing the categories on real
parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport, would be a much
fairer way than basing it on what the midwife saw when the baby was
born.


 I\'m not sure I really follow that, you go to a high school and join
the football team, you play if you\'re good enough. You go to a university
and you getting close to the cream of human abilities, there is no
evening up.
 Where is the evening up it Professional sports, if you don\'t excel,
you don\'t play.
In some sports there are categories of players, otherwise accident of
physical development would make it not worth competing for most players.

 Ah yes, like weightlifting they do take body weight into consideration.
So does that mean you want a 150 lb woman to compete against a 150 lb man?
I\'m not sure if you are agreeing with me or making an argument against.
As you know when a male enters puberty, testosterone enhances bone
strength, muscle strength
along with assertiveness. That\'s why men and women don\'t compete against
each other in most sports,
and I can\'t think of any that do at elite levels.
Previous males have an unfair advantage because of bone strength, muscle
strength and a more male physique when competing against life long women.

                               Mikek



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[Phil Allison]

Liz Tuddenham wrote:
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Sport is inherently unfair,

** Massive lie - LIFE is inherently unfair.

OTOH competitive sports attempt to create analogies to life that ARE fair and can be seen to be so.
Competitors follow sets of rules, officials ensure those rules are followed and the result clear.
It all happens in public view too. Nothing like life.

In sport, the fittest, the strongest the most able win.
The *whole idea* is to find such people - aka champions.

BTW you are one evil, fake SJW.


...... Phil

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:51 -0000, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:23:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Rickster <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
amdx wrote:
From Google, \"Definitions fro Oxford Languages\"

How long before Googles deletes these definitions?

Female
Noun
an adult female human being.

Woman
adjective
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs,
distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova)
which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Mikek
Biden explicitely stated that he would nominate a \"black woman\" but the
woman in question doesn\'t know what he meant because she\'s not a
biologist even though sex isn\'t determined by biology. I don\'t
understand why you have trouble understanding that.


Anyone in doubt of their own gender, can simply check their driver\'s
license.

Mine only shows \'sex\', not \'gender\'.

Either you have a Y chromosone, or not.

I don\'t know whether I have or not, I\'ve never had a chromosome test.
It would also depend on which organs they tested; some organs and body
parts can have different chromosomes from others (chimera).

In any case, gender isn\'t determined by chromosomes.

We\'re not interested in your new age shit. Sex/gender is male or female. Easy enough to tell if you strip off. Your desire can be all sorts of things, some of which our antiquated legal system frowns upon, but that doesn\'t affect what you are. A poofter is still a man.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:38:55 -0000, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:23:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Rickster <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
amdx wrote:
From Google, \"Definitions fro Oxford Languages\"

How long before Googles deletes these definitions?

Female
Noun
an adult female human being.

Woman
adjective
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs,
distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova)
which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Mikek
Biden explicitely stated that he would nominate a \"black woman\" but the
woman in question doesn\'t know what he meant because she\'s not a
biologist even though sex isn\'t determined by biology. I don\'t
understand why you have trouble understanding that.


Anyone in doubt of their own gender, can simply check their driver\'s
license.

Mine only shows \'sex\', not \'gender\'.

Either you have a Y chromosone, or not.

I don\'t know whether I have or not, I\'ve never had a chromosome test.
It would also depend on which organs they tested; some organs and body
parts can have different chromosomes from others (chimera).

In any case, gender isn\'t determined by chromosomes.

Anyone with a Y should not compete in girls\' sports. Y makes serious
physical differences.

No no no, lesbians.... er feminists state quite clearly that women are equal, therefore every human should compete in sports together, preferably naked.

 

[server]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:02:04 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:51 -0000, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:23:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Rickster <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
amdx wrote:
From Google, \"Definitions fro Oxford Languages\"

How long before Googles deletes these definitions?

Female
Noun
an adult female human being.

Woman
adjective
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs,
distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova)
which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Mikek
Biden explicitely stated that he would nominate a \"black woman\" but the
woman in question doesn\'t know what he meant because she\'s not a
biologist even though sex isn\'t determined by biology. I don\'t
understand why you have trouble understanding that.


Anyone in doubt of their own gender, can simply check their driver\'s
license.

Mine only shows \'sex\', not \'gender\'.

Either you have a Y chromosone, or not.

I don\'t know whether I have or not, I\'ve never had a chromosome test.
It would also depend on which organs they tested; some organs and body
parts can have different chromosomes from others (chimera).

In any case, gender isn\'t determined by chromosomes.

We\'re not interested in your new age shit. Sex/gender is male or female. Easy enough to tell if you strip off. Your desire can be all sorts of things, some of which our antiquated legal system frowns upon, but that doesn\'t affect what you are. A poofter is still a man.

Some people are genetically intersex, and some people are very
uncomfortable playing their expected gender roles. I think we should
be kind and tolerant to them, but don\'t let giant males call
themselves women and destroy girls\' sports.



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[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:41:01 +0100, <jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:02:04 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:51 -0000, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:23:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Rickster <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
amdx wrote:
From Google, \"Definitions fro Oxford Languages\"

How long before Googles deletes these definitions?

Female
Noun
an adult female human being.

Woman
adjective
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs,
distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova)
which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Mikek
Biden explicitely stated that he would nominate a \"black woman\" but the
woman in question doesn\'t know what he meant because she\'s not a
biologist even though sex isn\'t determined by biology. I don\'t
understand why you have trouble understanding that.


Anyone in doubt of their own gender, can simply check their driver\'s
license.

Mine only shows \'sex\', not \'gender\'.

Either you have a Y chromosone, or not.

I don\'t know whether I have or not, I\'ve never had a chromosome test.
It would also depend on which organs they tested; some organs and body
parts can have different chromosomes from others (chimera).

In any case, gender isn\'t determined by chromosomes.

We\'re not interested in your new age shit. Sex/gender is male or female. Easy enough to tell if you strip off. Your desire can be all sorts of things, some of which our antiquated legal system frowns upon, but that doesn\'t affect what you are. A poofter is still a man.

Some people are genetically intersex,

They have a cock or a vagina. They\'re one or the other.

> and some people are very uncomfortable playing their expected gender roles.

That doesn\'t change what sex they are. If someone with a cock fancies men, or wants to behave like a woman, that does not make him a woman.

I think we should be kind and tolerant to them, but don\'t let giant males call
themselves women and destroy girls\' sports.

Sports should allow anyone of any sex or persuasion. Just let humans compete against humans. Women are equal aren\'t they? Remember, they\'re not the weaker sex, or so they keep telling us. Let\'s see them put their money where their mouth is.

 

[amdx]

On 3/27/2022 5:41 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:02:04 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:51 -0000, Liz Tuddenham <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:23:51 +0000, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

Rickster <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
amdx wrote:
From Google, \"Definitions fro Oxford Languages\"

How long before Googles deletes these definitions?

Female
Noun
an adult female human being.

Woman
adjective
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs,
distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova)
which can be fertilized by male gametes.

Mikek
Biden explicitely stated that he would nominate a \"black woman\" but the
woman in question doesn\'t know what he meant because she\'s not a
biologist even though sex isn\'t determined by biology. I don\'t
understand why you have trouble understanding that.

Anyone in doubt of their own gender, can simply check their driver\'s
license.
Mine only shows \'sex\', not \'gender\'.
Either you have a Y chromosone, or not.
I don\'t know whether I have or not, I\'ve never had a chromosome test.
It would also depend on which organs they tested; some organs and body
parts can have different chromosomes from others (chimera).

In any case, gender isn\'t determined by chromosomes.
We\'re not interested in your new age shit. Sex/gender is male or female. Easy enough to tell if you strip off. Your desire can be all sorts of things, some of which our antiquated legal system frowns upon, but that doesn\'t affect what you are. A poofter is still a man.
Some people are genetically intersex, and some people are very
uncomfortable playing their expected gender roles. I think we should
be kind and tolerant to them, but don\'t let giant males call
themselves women and destroy girls\' sports.



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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 3:09:56 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

On 3/27/2022 9:36 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:53:05 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 6:24 AM, John Doe wrote:
Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
amdx wrote:
Rickster wrote:
amdx wrote:
What is the primary purpose for a woman\'s breasts?

They are an evolved feature. Every female of every mammalian species has them, and the general opinion is that they are useful for feeding infants.. Asking what their \"primary purpose\" is asserts that the evolutionary process has a purpose, which is the sort of error that intelligent design enthusiasts go in for.

So it was the kind of silly question you\'d expect from John Doe.

Before or after a male hits puberty?

And this is an even sillier response.

Does that mean you got the humor or did just whoosh by your humorless personality?

Not exactly. I do have a sense of humour. You don\'t - if you had you might not have made quite such a silly assertion.

Your thinking that what you posted was any kind of joke does illustrate this point rather clearly.

If you have posted something like. \"Pre- and post-pubescent males have different ideas about the significance of the female breast\" you might have been making a joke, but \"significance:\' isn\'t \"purpose\". Nothing evolved has a \"purpose\". Evolution doesn\'t work that way.

There may be a joke to be made about John Doe\'s deluded idea that a woman\'s breast could have a \"purpose\", but I couldn\'t find one. I clearly need a better sense of humour. The one I\'ve got is okay, but Rowan Atkinson clearly got a better one - he could do well enough out of it to give up on electronic engineering. His M.Sc thesis, published in 1978, considered the application of self-tuning control, and he did start on a Ph.D. but his theatrical career took off at the that point. I did get a couple of revue scripts performed at that stage in my career, but they didn\'t go down well enough to generate any job offers.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 5:09:33 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:55 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:

On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

<snip>

Sport is inherently unfair, which is why some sort of \'evening-up\' is
needed to make competition work. Basing the categories on real
parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport, would be a much
fairer way than basing it on what the midwife saw when the baby was
born.

I\'m not sure I really follow that, you go to a high school and join
the football team, you play if you\'re good enough. You go to a university
and you getting close to the cream of human abilities, there is no
evening up.

Where is the evening up it Professional sports, if you don\'t excel, you don\'t play.

Boxing, judo, wrestling and weightlifting are all divided into weight classes, Fly-weights don\'t compete against heavy-weights.

Basing the categories on real parameters, such as weight, muscle percentage, bone length or whatever
happens to be appropriate for the particular sport.
Yes, and the heavier, longer bone, or whatever happens to be appropriate for the particular sport,
are, the previous men parading as women and stealing medals and glory from females.

They aren\'t previous men because they wanted to do well in women\'s sport. Gender dysphoria is a mental conditions, and the best - and pretty much the only - treatment that works, involves changing the body of the sufferer into one that looks like the body of the preferred sex. Taking part in sport as a member of the preferred sex is one of the activities that reinforces the desired mental state.

Getting upset by the occasional sporting success of one of these people is messing about with their therapy. Competitors in all sports hate losing, but encouraging them to be unpleasant about it is the sort of vile behavior we can expects from creeps like John Doe. You wan to be another creep like him? Your choice.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 7:23:21 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:

On 3/27/2022 2:37 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:
On 3/27/2022 11:55 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:
On 3/27/2022 11:06 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:22 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:46:06 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 5:24 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:

As you know when a male enters puberty, testosterone enhances bone strength, muscle strength along with assertiveness.

This has been asserted. The claim about assertiveness does seem to be correct. The claims about bone strength and muscle strength don\'t seem to be correct - the change in assertiveness encourages males to work at being stronger in a way that females mostly don\'t bother with.

Biological female with naturally high testosterone levels were barred from competing as females for a while, but more careful research revealed that this wasn\'t justifiable.

>That\'s why men and women don\'t compete against each other in most sports, and I can\'t think of any that do at elite levels.

Endurance events do seem to be an exception. Google threw this up immediately.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-49284389

Previous males have an unfair advantage because of bone strength, muscle
strength and a more male physique when competing against life long women.

That\'s not what the most recent research says.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 9:45:06 AM UTC+11, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:41:01 +0100, <jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:02:04 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\" <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 20:00:51 -0000, Liz Tuddenham <l...@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 08:23:51 +0000, l...@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
Rickster <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 5:24:30 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
amdx wrote:

<snip>

> Sports should allow anyone of any sex or persuasion. Just let humans compete against humans. Women are equal aren\'t they? Remember, they\'re not the weaker sex, or so they keep telling us. Let\'s see them put their money where their mouth is.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-49284389

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 8:23:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 3:09:56 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:36 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:53:05 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 6:24 AM, John Doe wrote:
Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
amdx wrote:
Rickster wrote:
amdx wrote:
What is the primary purpose for a woman\'s breasts?

They are an evolved feature. Every female of every mammalian species has them, and the general opinion is that they are useful for feeding infants. Asking what their \"primary purpose\" is asserts that the evolutionary process has a purpose, which is the sort of error that intelligent design enthusiasts go in for.

So it was the kind of silly question you\'d expect from John Doe.

Before or after a male hits puberty?

And this is an even sillier response.

Does that mean you got the humor or did just whoosh by your humorless personality?
Not exactly. I do have a sense of humour. You don\'t - if you had you might not have made quite such a silly assertion.

Your thinking that what you posted was any kind of joke does illustrate this point rather clearly.

If you have posted something like. \"Pre- and post-pubescent males have different ideas about the significance of the female breast\" you might have been making a joke, but \"significance:\' isn\'t \"purpose\". Nothing evolved has a \"purpose\". Evolution doesn\'t work that way.

There may be a joke to be made about John Doe\'s deluded idea that a woman\'s breast could have a \"purpose\", but I couldn\'t find one. I clearly need a better sense of humour. The one I\'ve got is okay, but Rowan Atkinson clearly got a better one - he could do well enough out of it to give up on electronic engineering. His M.Sc thesis, published in 1978, considered the application of self-tuning control, and he did start on a Ph.D. but his theatrical career took off at the that point. I did get a couple of revue scripts performed at that stage in my career, but they didn\'t go down well enough to generate any job offers.

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SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, you obviously don\'t have any kids, at least naturally conceived ones, because you would KNOW what the purpose of women\'s breasts is if you did.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 4:23:56 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 8:23:35 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, March 28, 2022 at 3:09:56 AM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 9:36 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, March 27, 2022 at 11:53:05 PM UTC+11, amdx wrote:
On 3/27/2022 6:24 AM, John Doe wrote:
Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
amdx wrote:
Rickster wrote:
amdx wrote:
What is the primary purpose for a woman\'s breasts?

They are an evolved feature. Every female of every mammalian species has them, and the general opinion is that they are useful for feeding infants. Asking what their \"primary purpose\" is asserts that the evolutionary process has a purpose, which is the sort of error that intelligent design enthusiasts go in for.

So it was the kind of silly question you\'d expect from John Doe.

Before or after a male hits puberty?

And this is an even sillier response.

Does that mean you got the humor or did just whoosh by your humorless personality?
Not exactly. I do have a sense of humour. You don\'t - if you had you might not have made quite such a silly assertion.

Your thinking that what you posted was any kind of joke does illustrate this point rather clearly.

If you have posted something like. \"Pre- and post-pubescent males have different ideas about the significance of the female breast\" you might have been making a joke, but \"significance:\' isn\'t \"purpose\". Nothing evolved has a \"purpose\". Evolution doesn\'t work that way.

There may be a joke to be made about John Doe\'s deluded idea that a woman\'s breast could have a \"purpose\", but I couldn\'t find one. I clearly need a better sense of humour. The one I\'ve got is okay, but Rowan Atkinson clearly got a better one - he could do well enough out of it to give up on electronic engineering. His M.Sc thesis, published in 1978, considered the application of self-tuning control, and he did start on a Ph.D. but his theatrical career took off at the that point. I did get a couple of revue scripts performed at that stage in my career, but they didn\'t go down well enough to generate any job offers.

Hey Sloman you obviously don\'t have any kids, at least naturally conceived ones, because you would KNOW what the purpose of women\'s breasts is if you did.

\"Asking what the \"primary purpose\" of a woman\'s breast is, is asserting that the evolutionary process has a purpose, which is the sort of error that intelligent design enthusiasts go in for. \"

I did post \"They are an evolved feature. Every female of every mammalian species has them, and the general opinion is that they are useful for feeding infants\" which is still present in your post, so I clearly did know what you claim I needed to learn. I even know that not every mother can produce enough milk to satisfy her kid, which does complicate the issue.

You could just be stupid, so that point may have escaped your attention, but that would take heroic stupidity.
You do seem to be incapable of reading the posts you respond to, let alone understanding them.
It is difficult to convincingly explain your posts on any basis other than that you are suffering from advanced senile dementia.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Phil Allison]

FUCKWIT IEEE Bill puked more bullshit:

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Gender dysphoria is a mental conditions, and the best - and pretty much the only - treatment that works,
involves changing the body of the sufferer into one that looks like the body of the preferred sex.

** Only IF that make them hard to distinguish from real women.
A very rare feat indeed.

> Taking part in sport as a member of the preferred sex is one of the activities that reinforces the desired mental state.

** ONLY if the female athletes accept them as one of them.

Which is totally unheard of.

FYI to all:

NOTHING the demented IEEE Bill fuckwit posts has ANY relationship to reality.

Cos his ASD fucked brain has no such connection whatsoever !!!!!!




...... Phil