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On 2023-07-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:12:24 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

WE buy petrol and diesel in litres but still quote economy in mpg.

You buy litres in America?

Only for beverages...

Not all beverages. Beer is typically sold in 12-ounce bottles or
cans. Possibly a U.S. pint (0.47 litre) at a bar. Soda is often
sold in 12-ounce cans. Of course a pour of hard liquor at a bar
might be anything; the 1.5-ounce shot isn\'t mandated by law.

I bet you were thinking of hard liquor at 750 ml (down from the
traditional fifth at 757 ml), or 2-liter bottles of soda.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
ba
On 25/07/2023 07:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:36:53 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 28/05/2023 18:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

Before they found a way to flavour \"crisps\" (as we call them) all our
crisps were plain, with salt in a little screw of blue paper so you
could add as much or little as you liked. Now you can get plain with
the
salt in a little blue bag.

I\'ve never seen that here, separate salt. Would anyone like unsalted
chips? Seems unlikely.

Probably not. The point is there wasn\'t a way to make them salty until
they found a way to coat the chips/crisps, in the late 60s in the UK I
think. Salt doesn\'t dissolve in cooking oil. Then they introduced the
flavours like cheese and onion.

You must have had the same problem in the US, unless people carried salt
cellars around with them.

Dafuq?  How can they not know how to put salt on something?  You
sprinkle it on and shake it about, like you do with the blue packet ones.

If they just put the salt in the packet it would all fall to the bottom
until they found a way to make it stick to the crisps. Then they started
to put other flavoured coatings like cheese and onion.

About the same time they changed from bags made of greaseproof paper to
plastic, and we had to learn how to open them (by pulling them apart or
popping them) as you couldn\'t tear them open like the greaseproof paper
ones.

I think the \"salt and shake\" ones with the separate blue bag of salt can
in a few years later. I don\'t know why they chose to do that, but they
definitely taste different - and, to me, better - from the ready salted.

--
Max Demian
 
On Tuesday, July 25, 2023 at 4:07:34 PM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:31:55 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:10:32 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do yanks think mac and cheese is considerably shorter than macaroni
cheese?

Are you familiar with the concept of syllables?

I said considerably. You also need to take account of how the syllables flow together quickly. Macaroni is similar to Macarena, go listen to that song and how fast it\'s sung.

Syllables \"don\'t flow together\". They are built up of phonemes which are the more basic units of speech, and the flowing together of phonemes is called co-articulation.

Phoneticians have actually published data that lists how all the forty-odd phonemes used in English - it varies as bit from dialect to dialect - sound in in the 1600-odd possible phoneme pair combinations. It\'s important in synthesising natural sounding speech, and in processing natural speech to work out what people are actually saying. At least for those people who can say things worth paying attention to - who don\'t include the Scottish wanker..

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> writes:
On 2023-07-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:12:24 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

WE buy petrol and diesel in litres but still quote economy in mpg.

You buy litres in America?

Only for beverages...

Not all beverages. Beer is typically sold in 12-ounce bottles or
cans. Possibly a U.S. pint (0.47 litre) at a bar.

Local california german restaurant serves 0.5 liter beers, but yes, that\'s
out of the ordinary in the US.
 
On 2023-07-25, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> writes:
On 2023-07-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:12:24 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

WE buy petrol and diesel in litres but still quote economy in mpg.

You buy litres in America?

Only for beverages...

Not all beverages. Beer is typically sold in 12-ounce bottles or
cans. Possibly a U.S. pint (0.47 litre) at a bar.

Local california german restaurant serves 0.5 liter beers, but yes, that\'s
out of the ordinary in the US.

Unless they serve it in a marked beaker, I wouldn\'t make a distinction
between 0.47 and 0.5 litre. I\'d probably spill that much down my chin.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 13:40:16 +0100, Mad Dumbass, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

If they just put the salt in the packet it would all fall to the bottom
until they found a way to make it stick to the crisps. Then they started
to put other flavoured coatings like cheese and onion.

Fucking hilarious! The unwashed Scott wanker, troll and attention whore asks
one retarded question after another ...and this senile mad dumbass comes
doddering along thankfully to answer them every time! LMAO

--
Mad Dumbass having another senile moment:
\"It\'s the consistency of the shit that counts. Sometimes I don\'t need to
wipe, but I have to do so to tell. Also humans have buttocks to get
smeared due to our bipedalism.\"
MID: <6vydnWiYDoV1VUrDnZ2dnUU78QednZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

--
And yet another senile moment:
\"A fawn bowl will show piss a lot less than a white one.\"
MID: <tv1of3$1v4qg$1@dont-email.me>
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 07:02:37 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 18:00:13 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 21:42, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:42:57 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Dark days.

That used to be a dig at the lack of onerous rationing in the US in WW2.

Back then, there were three ice cream flavors.

I\'ve only ever had chocolate, vanilla (which I always thought meant plain, but I think that\'s \"manilla\"), and strawberry. My sister ate mint which I detested.

I was at Safeway last week and wanted to get some vanilla ice cream.
There wasn\'t any. There were about 20 weird flavors, mango and banana
and worse. I got dulce de leche, as close as they had.

Try to buy plain potato chips. They are hard to find.

Do you mean ready salted, or do you have the ones with the salt in a
little bag?

Plain means salted to me. Not bbq, not cheese flavor, not Flaming Hot,
just potatoes and salt.

We call that \"ready salted\" in the UK. I\'m not aware of unsalted crisps. CRISPS. Chips are what yanks call fries. Is there no end to their ignorance?

I sentence you to eating British food for the rest of your life.
That\'s cruel but just.
 
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> writes:
On 2023-07-25, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@invalid.com> writes:
On 2023-07-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 04:12:24 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

WE buy petrol and diesel in litres but still quote economy in mpg.

You buy litres in America?

Only for beverages...

Not all beverages. Beer is typically sold in 12-ounce bottles or
cans. Possibly a U.S. pint (0.47 litre) at a bar.

Local california german restaurant serves 0.5 liter beers, but yes, that\'s
out of the ordinary in the US.

Unless they serve it in a marked beaker, I wouldn\'t make a distinction
between 0.47 and 0.5 litre. I\'d probably spill that much down my chin.

They do, indeed serve it in Spaten mugs with half liter markings.
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 13:40:16 +0100, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

ba
On 25/07/2023 07:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 19:36:53 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 28/05/2023 18:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 11:55:19 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

Before they found a way to flavour \"crisps\" (as we call them) all our
crisps were plain, with salt in a little screw of blue paper so you
could add as much or little as you liked. Now you can get plain with
the
salt in a little blue bag.

I\'ve never seen that here, separate salt. Would anyone like unsalted
chips? Seems unlikely.

Probably not. The point is there wasn\'t a way to make them salty until
they found a way to coat the chips/crisps, in the late 60s in the UK I
think. Salt doesn\'t dissolve in cooking oil. Then they introduced the
flavours like cheese and onion.

You must have had the same problem in the US, unless people carried salt
cellars around with them.

Dafuq?  How can they not know how to put salt on something?  You
sprinkle it on and shake it about, like you do with the blue packet ones.

If they just put the salt in the packet it would all fall to the bottom
until they found a way to make it stick to the crisps. Then they started
to put other flavoured coatings like cheese and onion.

About the same time they changed from bags made of greaseproof paper to
plastic, and we had to learn how to open them (by pulling them apart or
popping them) as you couldn\'t tear them open like the greaseproof paper
ones.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jbyddg9012hv2p/Chips.jpg?raw=1

Chips at 6400 feet.
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 09:25:20 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


I sentence you to eating British food for the rest of your life.
That\'s cruel but just.

No problem at all for the gay Scottish wanker, as it is the troll-fodder
senile assholes like you keep feeding him with that keeps him going!
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 07:05:13 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Original Kinsey quote:

You dislike saying 2 pints instead of 1 quart, but you\'ll say 140
pounds instead of 14 stone. Why not go the whole hog and measure
people in ounces?


Says the person who multiplies 14 by 14 and gets 140.

I didn\'t. I divided 140 by 14 and got 10.
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 07:06:34 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:


What amazes me is how you let your shops advertise prices on the shelves
without the sales tax. Since you all pay it, why not include it? It\'s
actually making you more aware of how much money the government is
stealing from you.

That may have something to do with the state of Montana not having a sales
tax. The last politician who said \'sales tax\' was fed to the grizzlies.
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:40:07 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

Draught pub beer is indeed dispensed in imperial pints and half-pints.
However, almost all bottled beer is in half-litres (500ml) or a third of
a litre (330ml). It\'s a rare (and joyous) occasion when you find a real
imperial pint (568ml). On an exceptionally rare occasion you might find
a larger bottle - presumably 650ml, which I see is called a \'Bomber\'.

Call me cynical but one of the early adopters of the metric system was the
liquor trade. A common bottle size was a \'fifth\', one fifth of a US
gallon, which is 25.6 US ounces or 757 ml. The bottle quickly became 750
ml.

Trivial, unless you\'re bottling booze and those extra 7 mls add up to a
\'free\' bottle for every 107.

I don\'t drink beer but afaik a bottle of beer is still 12 US ounces or 355
ml. It\'s haphazard. I\'m looking at a bottle of flavored water that is 17
oz or 503 ml both of which are odd numbers.
 
On 25 Jul 2023 19:52:49 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 07:05:13 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Original Kinsey quote:

You dislike saying 2 pints instead of 1 quart, but you\'ll say 140
pounds instead of 14 stone. Why not go the whole hog and measure
people in ounces?


Says the person who multiplies 14 by 14 and gets 140.

I didn\'t. I divided 140 by 14 and got 10.

That retarded trolling wanker, retarded as he is, clearly got all you
retarded troll-feeding senile assholes on a leash, yet AGAIN! LMAO

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 08:35:01 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

I bet you were thinking of hard liquor at 750 ml (down from the
traditional fifth at 757 ml), or 2-liter bottles of soda.

Yeah, it was the incredible shrinking fifth that I was thinking of. Soda
goes the other way, with 2 liters being more than 2 quarts. I don\'t drink
beer but cans of Monster are still 16 ounces (473 ml).

I wonder how much it has to do with production efficiency. I don\'t know if
a \'fifth\' bottle changed or if it was filled with 7 ml less. Changing a 12
ounce glass bottle or 16 ounce can would be a pita all down the line. 2
liter blow molded soda bottles would mean new molds but they\'re relatively
inexpensive. The finish (neck) dimension stays the same and I don\'t know
if you\'d even have to change the preform.

https://www.homesciencetools.com/product/giant-test-tubes-6-pack/

The bottling line would need a little tweaking.
 
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:17:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Unless they serve it in a marked beaker, I wouldn\'t make a distinction
between 0.47 and 0.5 litre. I\'d probably spill that much down my chin.

You\'ve got to think about volume. Those mils add up.
 
On 25/07/2023 21:11, rbowman wrote:
Call me cynical but one of the early adopters of the metric system was the
liquor trade. A common bottle size was a \'fifth\', one fifth of a US
gallon, which is 25.6 US ounces or 757 ml. The bottle quickly became 750
ml.

Trivial, unless you\'re bottling booze and those extra 7 mls add up to a
\'free\' bottle for every 107.

I don\'t drink beer but afaik a bottle of beer is still 12 US ounces or 355
ml. It\'s haphazard. I\'m looking at a bottle of flavored water that is 17
oz or 503 ml both of which are odd numbers.

They\'ve got nothing on the bakers.

Pre-metrication standard loaves in the UK were 1 or 2 pounds - 454 (1)
or 908 grams.

When we went metric they should have course gone to the nearest value -
a little larger, at 500 and 1000g.

Did they ****.

Keeping them almost the same, at 450 and 900, might have made sense -
you don\'t want to have to replace all the tins.

But instead they went down to 400 and 800. I don\'t recall the price
changing...

Andy

--
(1) to the nearest gram. Which is close enough on bread...
 
On 2023-07-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 07:06:34 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:


What amazes me is how you let your shops advertise prices on the shelves
without the sales tax. Since you all pay it, why not include it? It\'s
actually making you more aware of how much money the government is
stealing from you.

That may have something to do with the state of Montana not having a sales
tax. The last politician who said \'sales tax\' was fed to the grizzlies.

Yeah, they always have trouble with the notion of state sovereignty.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On 2023-07-25, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:17:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

Unless they serve it in a marked beaker, I wouldn\'t make a distinction
between 0.47 and 0.5 litre. I\'d probably spill that much down my chin.

You\'ve got to think about volume. Those mils add up.

They add up for the bar. I don\'t drink enough for it to matter.
In fact, I can\'t remember the last time I had beer in a bar or
restaurant. I\'ve always preferred to drink at home.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On 25 Jul 2023 20:11:24 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Call me cynical

I call you a BIGMOUTH!

<FLUSH rest of the usual inevitable wordy senile blather unread>

--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
\"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn\'t bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake.\"
MID: <kaldt8F22l6U12@mid.individual.net>
 

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