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On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:
Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?
I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500
years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.
As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.
(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be
pasteurized
or equivalent.)
10 min. under a cobalt source???
Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated, like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.
Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other nasties.
There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
Yes.
typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
BULLSHIT.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/
Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
As usual the signs of another lost argument.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Perhaps you didn\'t/can\'t read the bit, \"17 deaths, and seven fetal
losses\".
Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:58:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 17:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:28:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:22, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
The USA is more than Kraft now.
Only took them 500 years.
\"Them\" ?
Merkins
What a nasty person you are. Is that standard in the UK?
The USA defines a rectangle 4000 x 5000 miles. It\'s land area is 4
million square miles with 50 states, 330 million people, a zillion
cultures and climates and cuisines, glaciers to high desert, and 20K
miles of coastline.
And you obviously stereotype it. That\'s sure easy.
Please stay where you are and we\'ll all be happy.
I was merely pointing out than in all of the above, there is a total
dearth of cheese varieties
We just went for a walk in the canyon and popped into the Canyon
Market, a little store in the village. I took a few pictures.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gk4zm4qwhyq7m13/AAAmbZdb7i9byH10ZlgYauXDa?dl=0
They also bake great bread and sell fresh sourdough pizza dough. We
make a pizza from half and make fried bread with the rest.
It won\'t while ever none of the west except the more rabid ex ukrainians
and their kids are the only ones getting killed. The Ukraine is doing
wonders for their military industrial complexes.
There used to be a guy on sci.chem who said something like: The only
countries worth anything were the ones that had felt the tread of the
Roman Empire.
Western countries certainly benefited from the decimal system, and the
concepts of fireworks and sushi.
What did Italians eat before Marco Polo brought pasta from asia and
someone imported tomatoes from the new world?
On 29 May 2023 19:56:00 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:50:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated
through colonialism.
https://www.insideedition.com/texas-high-school-graduation-postponed-
after-only-5-seniors-qualify-for-diploma-81663
Please explain how eastern Asia benefited from the wisdom of a bunch of
dead Greeks? Or India. You are aware that India influenced Greek
philosophy, not vice versa.
They got geometry,
On 5/29/2023 3:56 PM, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:50:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated through colonialism.
https://www.insideedition.com/texas-high-school-graduation-postponed-
after-only-5-seniors-qualify-for-diploma-81663
Please explain how eastern Asia benefited from the wisdom of a bunch of
dead Greeks? Or India. You are aware that India influenced Greek
philosophy, not vice versa.
I don\'t see how that could have happened. That was even before MySpace,
let alone Facebook.
On Mon, 29 May 2023 21:03:36 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:
On 2023-05-29, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated through colonialism.
There used to be a guy on sci.chem who said something like:
The only countries worth anything were the ones that had felt
the tread of the Roman Empire.
He allowed the U.S. because the Founders deliberately imitated
Greece and Rome.
Western countries certainly benefited from the decimal system, and the
concepts of fireworks and sushi.
What did Italians eat before Marco Polo brought pasta from asia
and
someone imported tomatoes from the new world?
On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann
dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:
Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?
I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500
years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.
As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.
(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be
pasteurized
or equivalent.)
10 min. under a cobalt source???
Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated,
like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.
Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other
nasties.
There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
Yes.
typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
BULLSHIT.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/
Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
As usual the signs of another lost argument.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Perhaps you didn\'t/can\'t read the bit, \"17 deaths, and seven fetal
losses\".
Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity about
illness and deaths.
On 29 May 2023 19:56:00 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:50:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated through colonialism.
https://www.insideedition.com/texas-high-school-graduation-postponed-
after-only-5-seniors-qualify-for-diploma-81663
Please explain how eastern Asia benefited from the wisdom of a bunch of
dead Greeks? Or India. You are aware that India influenced Greek
philosophy, not vice versa.
They got geometry, number theory, literacy, democracy. As we did. As the
world did. Civilization is cumulative and universal.
Rod Speed wrote
It won\'t while ever none of the west except the more rabid ex ukrainians
and their kids are the only ones getting killed. The Ukraine is doing
wonders for their military industrial complexes.
Nice new market for F-16s. I wonder how that big old belly mounted vacuum
cleaner will do on some of the improvised strips Ukraine uses when their
normal strip develops big holes?
On 29/05/2023 15:30, Fredxx wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:09, John Larkin wrote:
I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.
The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.
The world hates Britain because, by and large, they were better off
when we were in charge.
The world hates Russia, because, by and large, they were worse off
when they were in charge.
Hmm, I guess you\'ll also say that some Scandinavian countries hate the
Germans because they are better off from the railways they built with
slave labour.
Finland was on the German side in WW2 because they hated the Russians.
On 2023-05-29, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 07:09:20 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.
Yeah, sure. I suppose if you ignore the Dark Continent, Myanmar,
Central and South America and a few other isolated instances.
He\'s talking about what we used to call \"Indians\" when we were young.
I\'m going to prove my non-PC bonafides:
\"How, white man. Where can red man find firewater?\"
On 29/05/2023 15:30, Fredxx wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:09, John Larkin wrote:
I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.
The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.
The world hates Britain because, by and large, they were better off
when we were in charge.
The world hates Russia, because, by and large, they were worse off
when they were in charge.
Hmm, I guess you\'ll also say that some Scandinavian countries hate the
Germans because they are better off from the railways they built with
slave labour.
Finland was on the German side in WW2 because they hated the Russians.
Nobody forced peasants off the land and into factories. They did it
because it improved their lives.
On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann
dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:
Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?
I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500
years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.
As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.
(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be
pasteurized
or equivalent.)
10 min. under a cobalt source???
Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated,
like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.
Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other
nasties.
There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
Yes.
typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
BULLSHIT.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/
Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
As usual the signs of another lost argument.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Perhaps you didn\'t/can\'t read the bit, \"17 deaths, and seven fetal
losses\".
Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity about
illness and deaths.
Sure, but your original claim that those who use
raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong.
That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or goats.
On 29 May 2023 19:56:00 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:50:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and disseminated
through colonialism.
https://www.insideedition.com/texas-high-school-graduation-postponed-
after-only-5-seniors-qualify-for-diploma-81663
Please explain how eastern Asia benefited from the wisdom of a bunch of
dead Greeks? Or India. You are aware that India influenced Greek
philosophy, not vice versa.
They got geometry, number theory, literacy, democracy. As we did. As
the world did. Civilization is cumulative and universal.
On Tue, 30 May 2023 14:36:41 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:55:34 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 10:27:28 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann
dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:
Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?
I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500
years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.
As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic
tribes.
(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be
pasteurized
or equivalent.)
10 min. under a cobalt source???
Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated,
like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of
the
bugs die out.
Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other
nasties.
There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
Yes.
typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
BULLSHIT.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/
Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
As usual the signs of another lost argument.
You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.
Perhaps you didn\'t/can\'t read the bit, \"17 deaths, and seven fetal
losses\".
Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.
The raw milk fads are usually, ie typically, ended by publicity about
illness and deaths.
Sure, but your original claim that those who use
raw milk typically get that result is just plain wrong.
I claimed nothing of the sort. Read what I said.
There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
That clearly didnt happen with those who had their own cow(s) or goats.
Sometimes it did.
Rod Speed wrote
In fact even the world wars had little effect on population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
\"Deaths directly caused by the war (including military and civilian
fatalities) are estimated at 50â56 million, with an additional estimated
19â28 million deaths from war-related disease and famine. \"
Right. 70 million is a drop in the bucket.
That\'s only a few million more
than the current population of the United Kingdom. I suppose it wasn\'t as
bad as the Thirty Years War.