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[Peeler]

On 29 May 2023 20:07:02 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Most things would sneer at my air rifle.

Most people who get to know you sneer at your big mouth, sicko! <BG>

--
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\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
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[Sn!pe]

The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 22:24, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 11:52:06 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

No we don\'t. We call it \"macaroni cheese\". entirely \"and\" free. Of
course it *isn\'t* just macaroni and cheese, there are other ingredients.

Americans are very keen on it, and you can buy a kit of parts to make
it. I don\'t know what they use for cheese, though.

The Kraft kits have envelopes of a yellow powder rumored to be dried
Cheddar. You add milk or some optional butter and mix it in after cooking
the macaroni.

My mother often made macaroni and cheese but it was from scratch with real
Cheddar, milk, eggs, flour, butter and macaroni. It was quite a bit
different.

That\'s the bunny. I add mustard powder and grind up a nutmeg too. And
add sliced tomatoes and chorizo on top . And of course more grated cheddar.
It looks, smells and tastes delicious.

We put most of the above in ours, also onions and horseradish.

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My pet rock Gordon just is.

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-29, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated through colonialism.

There used to be a guy on sci.chem who said something like:
The only countries worth anything were the ones that had felt
the tread of the Roman Empire.

He allowed the U.S. because the Founders deliberately imitated
Greece and Rome.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-29, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 07:09:20 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.

Yeah, sure. I suppose if you ignore the Dark Continent, Myanmar, Central
and South America and a few other isolated instances.

He\'s talking about what we used to call \"Indians\" when we were young.

I\'m going to prove my non-PC bonafides:

\"How, white man. Where can red man find firewater?\"

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Ed P]

On 5/29/2023 3:56 PM, rbowman wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:50:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and disseminated
through colonialism.

https://www.insideedition.com/texas-high-school-graduation-postponed-
after-only-5-seniors-qualify-for-diploma-81663

Please explain how eastern Asia benefited from the wisdom of a bunch of
dead Greeks? Or India. You are aware that India influenced Greek
philosophy, not vice versa.

I don\'t see how that could have happened. That was even before MySpace,
let alone Facebook.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:01:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Not well, as by the time the war ended Britain was in no position to
keep any promises, and The USA and Russia let Stalin have Eastern
Europe.

Nor was it in a position when Poland was invaded. I see Ukraine in a
similar position, refusing to negotiate since Zelensky believes the west
has his back. If interest wanes...

It took massive campaigning by Churchill to alert the USA to the basic
fact that Stalin wanted do do wjat Hitler had failed to do - incorprate
all of Europe into a colonial empire.

There always was the gamesmanship going back to before the Triple Entente,
playing Russia against Germany. The US was either to stupid to play or
wanted the USSR as a counterweight. They should have known Stalin\'s
\'socialism in one country\' wasn\'t going to last. It was a temporary stance
when trying to export communism to Europe failed.

That was followed by the \'oh shit!\' moment when the US realized that
turning what was left of Germany into the backward farming community
envisioned by Morgenthau wasn\'t going to work.

There was also a clear message during the Hungarian Revolution. Whether or
not the CIA and RFE played a part in it, the \'our thoughts and prayers are
with you\' showed the rest of the nations they were on their own.

 

[Fredxx]

On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:

Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500 years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be pasteurized
or equivalent.)

10 min. under a cobalt source???


Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated, like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.

Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other nasties.

There are occasional fads here for raw milk,

Yes.

typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.

BULLSHIT.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/

Once again you show yourself up in a silly knee-jerk answer.

Odwalla killed some people
with unpasteurized fruit juices too.

 

[rbowman]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 10:39:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Of course Germany didn\'t exist as a nation till somewhat later, being
comprised of several kingdoms then

Historians are divided on whether Bismarck trolled the French into
declaring war to promote German unity or if he only made use of the
windfall. It was quite a coup since the predominantly Catholic southern
Germans don\'t particularly like the Protestant northerners. Bismarck was
astute enough to roll back his Kulturkampf to hold it all together. It
also helped with the alliance with Austria.

Whatever, that wrote paid to the Second Empire. Britain sat that one out
since it had the traditional suspicion of France. Napoleon had managed to
piss off Russia and the US, so no help there. Hubris is a common condition
for nations but France seems especially endowed.

 

[Peeler]

On 29 May 2023 22:05:30 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

Historians are divided on whether Bismarck trolled the French into
declaring war to promote German

NOBODY is divided on whether you are a pathological bigmouth or not, you
abnormal senile bigmouth!

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[Rod Speed]

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote

The Natural Philosopher wrote

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.

\"Who controls the past

No one ever does.

> controls the future;

No one ever does.

> who controls the present

No one ever does.

> controls the past\"

No one ever does.

> I think it was one of yours who wrote that.

That fool couldnt even get the date right.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:29:04 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On 29 May 2023 18:45:48 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 07:22:25 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

I suspect that a minority of europeans could often afford cheese 500
years ago. Malnutrition was usual.

500 years ago was prior to the Industrial Revolution when people were
herded off the land and into the dark satanic mills. Most would have had
at least one cow, sheep, or goat. You can only use so much milk so
cheese
was made to store the surplus, or if you really had a surplus, to feed
the
hogs.

It took industrialization to create widespread malnutrition, or
sometimes
outside forces. Ireland was a net exporter of food during the Famine.
The
beefeaters had to have their beef.

Nobody forced peasants off the land and into factories.

That did happen with the clearances in scotland.

They did it
because it improved their lives.

Industrialization gave us tractors, fertilizers, insecticides, trucks,
airplanes, refrigeration, and plant breeding that multiplied crop
yields enormously. The factories paid workers so they could afford the
ag products.

Life spans have over doubled since 1800.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:17:42 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2023 02:05:12 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 16:57:58 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 04:06:16 +0100, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 02:50:35 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:52:59 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:40:48 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their
rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

We no longer have Safeway. When Albertson\'s bought the chain they
had to
divest themselves of the Safeway stores in Missoula which became
Fresh
Markets which were recently bought by Yokes. The changes were
minimal as
far as I can tell.

We had a Lucky\'s Market that lasted two years. Tidyman\'s was another
option but losing a $6.3 million sexual discrimination suit put the
chain
out of business.

Why the fuck is $6.3 million require to shut up some lesbians?

Tough market. When I used to travel I was amazed at how much cheaper
food
was in LA, Phoenix, Seattle or other major markets.

\"The Love that dare not speak its name\" is now \"The Love that won\'t
shut up.\"

No woman ever shuts up. We are yet to discover the faulty gene to
switch off.

You should meet a better class of women. Try.

None of those are silly enough to have anything to do with him.

Oh. Good point.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 07:45:21 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:01:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Not well, as by the time the war ended Britain was in no position to
keep any promises, and The USA and Russia let Stalin have Eastern
Europe.

Nor was it in a position when Poland was invaded. I see Ukraine in a
similar position, refusing to negotiate since Zelensky believes the west
has his back. If interest wanes...

It won\'t while ever none of the west except the more rabid ex ukrainians
and their kids are the only ones getting killed. The Ukraine is doing
wonders for their military industrial complexes.

It took massive campaigning by Churchill to alert the USA to the basic
fact that Stalin wanted do do wjat Hitler had failed to do - incorprate
all of Europe into a colonial empire.

There always was the gamesmanship going back to before the Triple
Entente,
playing Russia against Germany. The US was either to stupid to play or
wanted the USSR as a counterweight. They should have known Stalin\'s
\'socialism in one country\' wasn\'t going to last. It was a temporary
stance
when trying to export communism to Europe failed.

That was followed by the \'oh shit!\' moment when the US realized that
turning what was left of Germany into the backward farming community
envisioned by Morgenthau wasn\'t going to work.

There was also a clear message during the Hungarian Revolution. Whether
or
not the CIA and RFE played a part in it, the \'our thoughts and prayers
are
with you\' showed the rest of the nations they were on their own.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:

Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500 years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be pasteurized
or equivalent.)

10 min. under a cobalt source???


Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated, like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.

Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other nasties.

There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
Yes.

typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
BULLSHIT.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/

Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.

Odwalla killed some people
with unpasteurized fruit juices too.

 

[Fredxx]

On 29/05/2023 20:33, Max Demian wrote:

On 29/05/2023 15:30, Fredxx wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 29/05/2023 15:09, John Larkin wrote:

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.

The world hates Britain because, by and large, they were better off
when we were in charge.
The world hates Russia, because, by and large, they were worse off
when they were in charge.

Hmm, I guess you\'ll also say that some Scandinavian countries hate the
Germans because they are better off from the railways they built with
slave labour.

Finland was on the German side in WW2 because they hated the Russians.

I was thinking of the Norway infrastructure built by the Germans. I was
aware of Finland and their scuffles with Russia in WW2.

 

[Fredxx]

On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote:

On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:

Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500 years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be pasteurized
or equivalent.)

10 min. under a cobalt source???


Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated, like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.

Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other nasties.

There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
 Yes.

typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
 BULLSHIT.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/

Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.

As usual the signs of another lost argument. Perhaps you didn\'t/can\'t
read the bit, \"17 deaths, and seven fetal losses\".

Odwalla killed some people
with unpasteurized fruit juices too.

 

[Rod Speed]

On Tue, 30 May 2023 09:46:10 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:

On 30/05/2023 00:00, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 08:00:48 +1000, Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 20:40, Rod Speed wrote:
On Tue, 30 May 2023 05:16:00 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:31:31 +0200, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de
wrote:

Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin:
hem\" ?

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500
years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that \"caseus\" was
the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be
pasteurized
or equivalent.)

10 min. under a cobalt source???


Cheese here has to be made from pasteurized milk (flash heated, like
72c for 15 seconds) or aged for at least 60 days to let most of the
bugs die out.

Milk was once a major vector for tuberculosis and some other nasties.

There are occasional fads here for raw milk,
Yes.

typically with
unfortunate side effects, like dead babies.
BULLSHIT.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35277846/
Says nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.

As usual the signs of another lost argument.

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag.

Perhaps you didn\'t/can\'t read the bit, \"17 deaths, and seven fetal
losses\".

Still nothing even remotely like TYPICALLY, fuckwit.

Odwalla killed some people
with unpasteurized fruit juices too.

 

[John Larkin]

On 29 May 2023 19:56:00 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:50:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and disseminated
through colonialism.

https://www.insideedition.com/texas-high-school-graduation-postponed-
after-only-5-seniors-qualify-for-diploma-81663

Please explain how eastern Asia benefited from the wisdom of a bunch of
dead Greeks? Or India. You are aware that India influenced Greek
philosophy, not vice versa.

They got geometry, number theory, literacy, democracy. As we did. As
the world did. Civilization is cumulative and universal.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 21:03:36 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-29, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated through colonialism.

There used to be a guy on sci.chem who said something like:
The only countries worth anything were the ones that had felt
the tread of the Roman Empire.

He allowed the U.S. because the Founders deliberately imitated
Greece and Rome.

Western countries certainly benefited from the decimal system, and the
concepts of fireworks and sushi.

What did Italians eat before Marco Polo brought pasta from asia and
someone imported tomatoes from the new world?

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 19:58:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 17:00, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:28:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 15:22, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
The USA is more than Kraft now.

Only took them 500 years.

\"Them\" ?
Merkins


What a nasty person you are. Is that standard in the UK?

The USA defines a rectangle 4000 x 5000 miles. It\'s land area is 4
million square miles with 50 states, 330 million people, a zillion
cultures and climates and cuisines, glaciers to high desert, and 20K
miles of coastline.

And you obviously stereotype it. That\'s sure easy.

Please stay where you are and we\'ll all be happy.

I was merely pointing out than in all of the above, there is a total
dearth of cheese varieties

We just went for a walk in the canyon and popped into the Canyon
Market, a little store in the village. I took a few pictures.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gk4zm4qwhyq7m13/AAAmbZdb7i9byH10ZlgYauXDa?dl=0

They also bake great bread and sell fresh sourdough pizza dough. We
make a pizza from half and make fried bread with the rest.