usenet

[F Murtz]

F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?
Right, it is now official I have had confirmation that the server was

switched off.
It still stinks it was part of the service as far as I am concerned, the
theory that all I signed up for was the phone and internet and newsgroup
server was not part of the deal does not hold water for me, just imagine
if the mail server was turned off tomorrow cause they did not wish to
supply it any more,how would that go?
Any way I think I am gong to get an ex Gracia reduction in next bill
which will help towards an external server supplier.

 

[Noddy]

On 13/06/13 3:34 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Right, it is now official I have had confirmation that the server was
switched off.

Jeez, there's a surprise

It still stinks it was part of the service as far as I am concerned,

And you were wrong in assuming that.

the theory that all I signed up for was the phone and internet and newsgroup
server was not part of the deal does not hold water for me

It can hold whatever you want it to, but that doesn't mean it does. You
*assumed* Telstra would provide a news feed and unless they specifically
gauranteed to do that the problem lies with you.

just imagine if the mail server was turned off tomorrow cause they did not wish to
supply it any more,how would that go?

It wouldn't go well, but then you're not comparing apples with apples.
Everyone who signs up with an ISP rightly expects to have an email
account. Very few would even know what Usenet is these days, let alone
take it for granted that access to a news server is a standard part of
their contract.

Any way I think I am gong to get an ex Gracia reduction in next bill
which will help towards an external server supplier.

They gave ma a thousand bucks *and* free wireless for a year last month,
but they can shove it up their arse sideways as far as I'm concerned.



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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Andy]

F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

Astraweb
Giganews
news.individual.net

All should be able to sort you out with a large 'block' of usenet data
that will last you years for less than $20.

--
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

 

[F Murtz]

Andy wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

Astraweb
Giganews
news.individual.net

All should be able to sort you out with a large 'block' of usenet data
that will last you years for less than $20.

The first two seem to exceed $40 per year for their most basic and the

third is cheaper but no binaries and I already get that with eternal
september for nothing.
I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .
It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:10:54 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .

That has never existed.

It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

Spend a few dollars FFS: http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

 

[lindsay]

On 15/06/2013 1:10 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Andy wrote:
F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

Astraweb
Giganews
news.individual.net

All should be able to sort you out with a large 'block' of usenet data
that will last you years for less than $20.

The first two seem to exceed $40 per year for their most basic and the

Astraweb is what Internode use for a news feed, binaries and all. When
i'm bush, remote use of news.internode.on.net isnt allowed, so I paid
$10 3 years ago for 25Gb with no time limit.I just top it up once in a
blue moon. And really, $50 for a terrabyte with no time limit is
awesome, afaic.

third is cheaper but no binaries and I already get that with eternal
september for nothing.
I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .
It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

I really doubt you'll find cheaper than astraweb, and they carry all
binaries that I'm aware of. Giganews Silver is only us$15 a month for 50
gigs and 20 connections. Platinum is unlimited d/loads for us$25 per
month. Andy's spot on. You wont do better than his suggestions.

 

[Andy]

F Murtz wrote:

I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .

I don't believe such a service has ever existed.

It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

Really? I mean...how much binary traffic are you using?

AW do a _terabyte_ block for $50, I can't imagine how long that would
take to get through...

--
Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:10:54 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .

That has never existed.

Bigpond used to have groups on pictures binary which eternal does not

It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

Spend a few dollars FFS: http://usenet-news.net/index1.php?url=get

 

[F Murtz]

Andy wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .

I don't believe such a service has ever existed.

It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

Really? I mean...how much binary traffic are you using?

Not much but I can now not get art and photography binary pics etc on
newsgroups.
I am not sure whether it is worth the money as eternal sept is free for
the rest but it is so annoying because when when I started with telstra
the news server was part of the deal just like the mail server.
I realize you can get photos etc on the web but not from the same like
minded source.

AW do a _terabyte_ block for $50, I can't imagine how long that would
take to get through...

$50 on a pension is different from all youse moneyed people

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 23:17:54 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Jeßus wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:10:54 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .

That has never existed.

Bigpond used to have groups on pictures binary which eternal does not

Indeed it did, but as a binary server it was shit, because it wasn't a
*real* binary server. Poor propagation and retention, and basically
incomplete list of groups. In my time of using the BP server, they
lost all the data at least twice that I can recall, meaning it was
offline for days whilst they rebuilt the thing. That's after days of
denying there was a problem, of course.

If you tried a decent binary server you'd notice the difference
immediately.

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 23:28:12 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Not much but I can now not get art and photography binary pics etc on
newsgroups.
I am not sure whether it is worth the money as eternal sept is free for
the rest but it is so annoying because when when I started with telstra
the news server was part of the deal just like the mail server.
I realize you can get photos etc on the web but not from the same like
minded source.

Incidentally, which specific binary groups are you after?
Because I'm using E-S right now, and it does carry a number of binary
groups... alt.binaries.food, for example, been reading that group here
on E-S for years now.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2013-06-15, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:

Andy wrote:
F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

Astraweb
Giganews
news.individual.net

All should be able to sort you out with a large 'block' of usenet data
that will last you years for less than $20.

The first two seem to exceed $40 per year for their most basic

DON'T STOP READING THERE

eg:

http://www.news.astraweb.com/downloadplans.html

no time limits.
-----------------

How long will a Terabyte of usenet last you? $50

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--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 12/06/2013 10:04 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 11/06/2013 3:55 PM, F Murtz wrote:
I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

**For fuck's sake, give it a rest. Pay 5 Bucks and use a private news
service.

Why pay for something I should not have to?

Already paying eighty dollars for this one (bundle)which is my main
reason for the Internet, rarely use the phone sometimes use broad band
to catch up missed tv, major interest newsgroups, bit of research etc
Have eternal sept but it does not have as many groups as bigpond and
does not have binaries.

**Cite the precise words in your contract with Telstra, where they
guarantee you free access to newsgroups.

--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Noddy]

On 16/06/13 9:39 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**Cite the precise words in your contract with Telstra, where they
guarantee you free access to newsgroups.

That's it. If he can do that he has a case. If he can't, then his
assumptions have caused his grief.



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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jun 2013 23:28:12 +1000, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:


Not much but I can now not get art and photography binary pics etc on
newsgroups.
I am not sure whether it is worth the money as eternal sept is free for
the rest but it is so annoying because when when I started with telstra
the news server was part of the deal just like the mail server.
I realize you can get photos etc on the web but not from the same like
minded source.

Incidentally, which specific binary groups are you after?
Because I'm using E-S right now, and it does carry a number of binary
groups... alt.binaries.food, for example, been reading that group here
on E-S for years now.

It only seem to carry about 14 oe less binary pictures groups, whereas

bigpond had a lot more

 

[F Murtz]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 12/06/2013 10:04 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 11/06/2013 3:55 PM, F Murtz wrote:
I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

**For fuck's sake, give it a rest. Pay 5 Bucks and use a private news
service.

Why pay for something I should not have to?

Already paying eighty dollars for this one (bundle)which is my main
reason for the Internet, rarely use the phone sometimes use broad band
to catch up missed tv, major interest newsgroups, bit of research etc
Have eternal sept but it does not have as many groups as bigpond and
does not have binaries.

**Cite the precise words in your contract with Telstra, where they
guarantee you free access to newsgroups.

Did I ever say it did, just as it probably does non guarantee the mail

server.

 

[Jeßus]

On 15 Jun 2013 22:18:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2013-06-15, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Andy wrote:
F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

Astraweb
Giganews
news.individual.net

All should be able to sort you out with a large 'block' of usenet data
that will last you years for less than $20.

The first two seem to exceed $40 per year for their most basic

DON'T STOP READING THERE

eg:

http://www.news.astraweb.com/downloadplans.html

no time limits.
-----------------

How long will a Terabyte of usenet last you? $50

He's not listening.

 

[jonz]

On 6/16/2013 9:39 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 12/06/2013 10:04 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 11/06/2013 3:55 PM, F Murtz wrote:
I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

**For fuck's sake, give it a rest. Pay 5 Bucks and use a private news
service.

Why pay for something I should not have to?

Already paying eighty dollars for this one (bundle)which is my main
reason for the Internet, rarely use the phone sometimes use broad band
to catch up missed tv, major interest newsgroups, bit of research etc
Have eternal sept but it does not have as many groups as bigpond and
does not have binaries.

**Cite the precise words in your contract with Telstra, where they
guarantee you free access to newsgroups.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As i said previously, 50,000 n/g`s not enough? Plus, you will find
there are _some_ binaries on E/S...........

--
“Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it”

 

[jonz]

On 6/15/2013 11:28 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Andy wrote:
F Murtz wrote:

I am looking for something that costs almost nothing equal to bigponds
newsgroups which had binaries .

I don't believe such a service has ever existed.

It seem that the only way is to move house where I get a choice of
providers, so I am stuck with no binaries.

Really? I mean...how much binary traffic are you using?

Not much but I can now not get art and photography binary pics etc on
newsgroups.
I am not sure whether it is worth the money as eternal sept is free for
the rest but it is so annoying because when when I started with telstra
the news server was part of the deal just like the mail server.
I realize you can get photos etc on the web but not from the same like
minded source.

AW do a _terabyte_ block for $50, I can't imagine how long that would
take to get through...

$50 on a pension is different from all youse moneyed people
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jeezuz, break out the violins...........


--
“Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it”

 

[F Murtz]

Jeßus wrote:

On 15 Jun 2013 22:18:41 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2013-06-15, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Andy wrote:
F Murtz wrote:

I have been trying to talk to someone in telstra about usenet and none
of the technical people I have spoken to know what it is, does anyone
know the name of an individual technical person in telstra that that
knows usenet that I can ask the case manager to find for me as they can
not find such an expert?

Astraweb
Giganews
news.individual.net

All should be able to sort you out with a large 'block' of usenet data
that will last you years for less than $20.

The first two seem to exceed $40 per year for their most basic

DON'T STOP READING THERE

eg:

http://www.news.astraweb.com/downloadplans.html

no time limits.
-----------------

How long will a Terabyte of usenet last you? $50

He's not listening.

With my luck they will do a bigpond and close their servers tomorrow.