Use different size wire in electro clutch?

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:54:32 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

It is indeed. AWG does not specify an explicit conductor CSA.
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AWG does not specify conductors. It specifies *wires*. There are other
types of wire than electrical.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:17:14 +0000, Eeyore wrote:

Any given wire gauge covers a wide range of
cross-sectional areas.
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Rubbish

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:09:40 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:02:30 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:



John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@removethishotmail.com> wrote:
DaveC wrote:

The coil in an industrial electromagnetic clutch (connecting the flywheel to
the drive mechanism) has gone open-circuit. So it is being rewound by a motor
rewind shop.

I was just informed that the original wire was about 12 ga. (maybe slightly
larger; original was metric) but it was rewound using 10 ga.

Why do Americans persist in using stupid AWG that no-one else in the
world uses except to entertain you ?

---
Because we like to be entertained by watching loons like you go bonkers
when we force you to step outside of your wretched little comfort zones?

I didn't go bonkers at all. I just picked an easy target to stir you up.

---
And why would you want to do that? Just to make trouble, no doubt.

I noticed that while you were gone the atmosphere around here stunk a
lot less like shit than usual.

Now you're back and the place is starting to stink again. Too bad...
---

America: "Hello, Europe, we'd like to buy 50,000 pounds of #10 AWG OFHC
double formvar magnet wire.

Europe: But... but all we have is metric sizes, in kilograms, boo hoo.

We can convert too, you know. Thankfully only an issue for you lot.

---
Are Levi's sold over there with waist sizes in centimeters or do you
have to convert 112 cm to find what you can wear?
---

Have you never heard of mm^2 ?

---
Sure we have.

So what?

Why don't you use it ?

---
Because it doesn't suit us in everyday life?

JF
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I'll bet folks in the industry were calling out wire by American Wire
Gauge calls long before folks 'over there' were calling wires out in
direct cross sectional area numerics. We hade/have circular mils, and
you guys have square millimeters.

Eventually, the world will, perhaps, be all metric. Maybe one day
there will be a singular monetary system or government... sure.

Don't hold your breath.

For now we will all, both you (Eeyore's 'over there' crowd)and us,
savor the nostalgia that our truly scientific ancestors gave us. We will
cling to those things that we think important. Every 'scientist' knows
how to measure length regardless of what ticks are on the scale... still,
every man likes to do so with *his own* ruler.

All the automation and such in 'science and industry' these days has
made for some 'scientists' that are titled or held in regards that are
far beyond their actual level of competency or depth of knowledge.

I am glad that you are not in that boat, John.

The classical engineers are all but gone... a dying breed.
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:57:21 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:

bg wrote:

Metric is for people that have to count on their fingers !

What an absurd comment. Do you have 12 fingers so you can count in inches to the
foot ?

Graham
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Absurd? YOU, maybe.

I find that folks that claim to be a scientist yet cannot perform math
in bases other than ten and two, are not really scientists at all. That
is how absurd you are.

Do you piss and moan about the number of hours in a day or the calendar
arrangement as well?

You: NOT a scientist.

More toward "whining wussy", or in your case "wussy in the body of an
ass".
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:59:41 +0000, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:

Ron wrote:

of course as any fool knows it should be either SWG or thousanths of an
inch ;)

LOL ! Give me a thou over a 'mil' anyday. Only the Americans could confuse a
metric prefix with an old unit.

Not to mention that if you use the word 'mil' in the UK it means a millimetre.

Graham
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Millimeter is "mm", NOT "mil". "mil" IS known around the world, you
asshole, know nothing idiot.
 
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:41:24 -0600, krw <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:34:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:47 -0700, "bg" <bg@nospam.com> wrote:

Metric is for people that have to count on their fingers !

I prefer base 21.

The subject excites you?

Only because 42 is the second number in that base. :)

Everyone knows that 42 is in base 13. ;-)
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42 is "The answer to everything".
 
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:32:12 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:34:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:47 -0700, "bg" <bg@nospam.com> wrote:

Metric is for people that have to count on their fingers !

I prefer base 21.


Only because 42 is the second number in that base. :)

---
Nope, it's because I can use all my "digits" to count with. ;)

JF
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metacarpals?
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:09:40 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:02:30 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:



John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@removethishotmail.com> wrote:
DaveC wrote:

The coil in an industrial electromagnetic clutch (connecting the flywheel to
the drive mechanism) has gone open-circuit. So it is being rewound by a motor
rewind shop.

I was just informed that the original wire was about 12 ga. (maybe slightly
larger; original was metric) but it was rewound using 10 ga.

Why do Americans persist in using stupid AWG that no-one else in the
world uses except to entertain you ?

---
Because we like to be entertained by watching loons like you go bonkers
when we force you to step outside of your wretched little comfort zones?

I didn't go bonkers at all. I just picked an easy target to stir you up.

---
And why would you want to do that? Just to make trouble, no doubt.

I noticed that while you were gone the atmosphere around here stunk a
lot less like shit than usual.

Now you're back and the place is starting to stink again. Too bad...
---

America: "Hello, Europe, we'd like to buy 50,000 pounds of #10 AWG OFHC
double formvar magnet wire.

Europe: But... but all we have is metric sizes, in kilograms, boo hoo.

We can convert too, you know. Thankfully only an issue for you lot.

---
Are Levi's sold over there with waist sizes in centimeters or do you
have to convert 112 cm to find what you can wear?
---

Have you never heard of mm^2 ?

---
Sure we have.

So what?

Why don't you use it ?

---
Because it doesn't suit us in everyday life?

JF
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Probably more like 140 cm for him. Conservative guess. :)
 
Ron wrote:

Jamie wrote:

The way I see it, you're not able to comprehend the vast complexity of
the intellectually enhanced American!

Did that just about sum it up?


An Oxymoron shirley?

;)

Dives for cover
Ron (Merry Christmas)
Yeah.
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Hail Marry!
 
Ron wrote:

Jamie wrote:

The way I see it, you're not able to comprehend the vast complexity of
the intellectually enhanced American!

Did that just about sum it up?


An Oxymoron shirley?

;)

Dives for cover
Ron (Merry Christmas)
Oops
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Hail Mary!
 
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:10:18 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Eeyore wrote:


Ron wrote:


of course as any fool knows it should be either SWG or thousanths of an
inch ;)


LOL ! Give me a thou over a 'mil' anyday. Only the Americans could confuse a
metric prefix with an old unit.

Not to mention that if you use the word 'mil' in the UK it means a millimetre.

The way I see it, you're not able to comprehend the vast complexity of
the intellectually enhanced American!

Did that just about sum it up?


I just have to say that I did like that response.
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I am glad we all did not embrace the toad licking thing back in the
80s.

We'd all be singing "On the Toad Again..." And PETA would be on our
asses.

Let's see if your 'enhancement' gets the depth of that off the wall
remark... :)

Bwuahahahahaha... Intellectually Enhanced... indeed!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:51:56 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Ron wrote:

Jamie wrote:

The way I see it, you're not able to comprehend the vast complexity of
the intellectually enhanced American!

Did that just about sum it up?


An Oxymoron shirley?

;)

Dives for cover
Ron (Merry Christmas)
Yeah.
Hail Marry!
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On the Toad again...
 
lurch <lu...@yourangcousinitslibrary.org>



YOU ARE AN IDIOT

I AM PROTEUS
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
krw wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:34:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:47 -0700, "bg" <bg@nospam.com> wrote:
Metric is for people that have to count on their fingers !
I prefer base 21.
The subject excites you?

Only because 42 is the second number in that base. :)
Everyone knows that 42 is in base 13. ;-)


You're wayyyy off base...


No, the answer to "Life, the Universe and Everything" is 42.
Click to expand...

If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't understand the
question. The question is "What is six times nine?"

The only way any of this works out is if '42' is in base 13. (4*13+2=6*9)

daestrom
In memory of Douglas Adams
 
daestrom wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
krw wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:34:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

John Fields wrote:
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:47 -0700, "bg" <bg@nospam.com> wrote:
Metric is for people that have to count on their fingers !
I prefer base 21.
The subject excites you?

Only because 42 is the second number in that base. :)
Everyone knows that 42 is in base 13. ;-)


You're wayyyy off base...


No, the answer to "Life, the Universe and Everything" is 42.

If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't understand the
question. The question is "What is six times nine?"

The only way any of this works out is if '42' is in base 13. (4*13+2=6*9)

daestrom
In memory of Douglas Adams
Click to expand...

'So long, and thanks for all the fish' :)


--
Offworld checks no longer accepted!
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:23:33 -0800, lurch
<lurch@yourangcousinitslibrary.org> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:09:40 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:02:30 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:



John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@removethishotmail.com> wrote:
Click to expand...

Have you never heard of mm^2 ?

---
Sure we have.

So what?

Why don't you use it ?

---
Because it doesn't suit us in everyday life?

JF

I'll bet folks in the industry were calling out wire by American Wire
Gauge calls long before folks 'over there' were calling wires out in
direct cross sectional area numerics. We hade/have circular mils, and
you guys have square millimeters.

Eventually, the world will, perhaps, be all metric. Maybe one day
there will be a singular monetary system or government... sure.

Don't hold your breath.

For now we will all, both you (Eeyore's 'over there' crowd)and us,
savor the nostalgia that our truly scientific ancestors gave us. We will
cling to those things that we think important. Every 'scientist' knows
how to measure length regardless of what ticks are on the scale... still,
every man likes to do so with *his own* ruler.

All the automation and such in 'science and industry' these days has
made for some 'scientists' that are titled or held in regards that are
far beyond their actual level of competency or depth of knowledge.

I am glad that you are not in that boat, John.
Click to expand...
---
Thank you, that's very kind. :)

JF
 
lurch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:09:40 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 04:02:30 +0000, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@notcoldmail.com> wrote:


John Fields wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@removethishotmail.com> wrote:
DaveC wrote:
The coil in an industrial electromagnetic clutch (connecting the flywheel to
the drive mechanism) has gone open-circuit. So it is being rewound by a motor
rewind shop.

I was just informed that the original wire was about 12 ga. (maybe slightly
larger; original was metric) but it was rewound using 10 ga.
Why do Americans persist in using stupid AWG that no-one else in the
world uses except to entertain you ?
---
Because we like to be entertained by watching loons like you go bonkers
when we force you to step outside of your wretched little comfort zones?
I didn't go bonkers at all. I just picked an easy target to stir you up.
---
And why would you want to do that? Just to make trouble, no doubt.

I noticed that while you were gone the atmosphere around here stunk a
lot less like shit than usual.

Now you're back and the place is starting to stink again. Too bad...
---

America: "Hello, Europe, we'd like to buy 50,000 pounds of #10 AWG OFHC
double formvar magnet wire.

Europe: But... but all we have is metric sizes, in kilograms, boo hoo.
We can convert too, you know. Thankfully only an issue for you lot.
---
Are Levi's sold over there with waist sizes in centimeters or do you
have to convert 112 cm to find what you can wear?
---

Have you never heard of mm^2 ?
---
Sure we have.

So what?
Why don't you use it ?
---
Because it doesn't suit us in everyday life?

JF

I'll bet folks in the industry were calling out wire by American Wire
Gauge calls long before folks 'over there' were calling wires out in
direct cross sectional area numerics. We hade/have circular mils, and
you guys have square millimeters.

Eventually, the world will, perhaps, be all metric. Maybe one day
there will be a singular monetary system or government... sure.

Don't hold your breath.

For now we will all, both you (Eeyore's 'over there' crowd)and us,
savor the nostalgia that our truly scientific ancestors gave us. We will
cling to those things that we think important. Every 'scientist' knows
how to measure length regardless of what ticks are on the scale... still,
every man likes to do so with *his own* ruler.

All the automation and such in 'science and industry' these days has
made for some 'scientists' that are titled or held in regards that are
far beyond their actual level of competency or depth of knowledge.

I am glad that you are not in that boat, John.

The classical engineers are all but gone... a dying breed.
Click to expand...
And as the sun sinks slowly into the west, we bid a fond farewell to the
great engineers of the past. It was a dark and stormy night, ......

I know some pretty amazing ones, so the breed is far from dead.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:41:34 -0800, lurch
<lurch@yourangcousinitslibrary.org> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:32:12 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:34:42 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


John Fields wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:06:47 -0700, "bg" <bg@nospam.com> wrote:

Metric is for people that have to count on their fingers !

I prefer base 21.


Only because 42 is the second number in that base. :)

---
Nope, it's because I can use all my "digits" to count with. ;)

JF

metacarpals?
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---
No, the distal phalanges of my fingers and toes, plus one other
appendage. ;)

Interestingly, Indians from India count on their fingers using all of
their phalanges in sequence, like this:

Proximal Phalange Intermediate Phalange Distal Phalange
--------------------------------+-----------------------+--------------
Little Finger 1 2 3
Ring Finger 4 5 6
Middle Finger 7 8 9
Index Finger 10 11 12

So, by using both hands, they can count up to 144 on their fingers.


JF
 
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:taWdndblifsIzq_WnZ2dnUVZ_jxi4p2d@earthlink.com...
No, the answer to "Life, the Universe and Everything" is 42.

If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't understand the
question. The question is "What is six times nine?"

The only way any of this works out is if '42' is in base 13. (4*13+2=6*9)

'So long, and thanks for all the fish' :)
Click to expand...
Ghoti?

Tim

--
Deep Friar: a very philosophical monk.
Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
 
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:55:41 -0600, "Tim Williams"
<tmoranwms@charter.net> wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:taWdndblifsIzq_WnZ2dnUVZ_jxi4p2d@earthlink.com...
No, the answer to "Life, the Universe and Everything" is 42.

If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't understand the
question. The question is "What is six times nine?"

The only way any of this works out is if '42' is in base 13. (4*13+2=6*9)

'So long, and thanks for all the fish' :)

Ghoti?
Click to expand...
---
laugh women nation ;)
-- - --

JF
 
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