Update your XP machine

[bitrex]

<https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s>

Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

 

[bitrex]

On 5/16/19 12:04 AM, bitrex wrote:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s


Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

Here is a de-crustified link:

<https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/>

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/05/15 9:08 p.m., bitrex wrote:

On 5/16/19 12:04 AM, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s


Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

Here is a de-crustified link:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/

Thanks! Links to the patch are in the article.

John :-#(#

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

John Robertson wrote:

On 2019/05/15 9:08 p.m., bitrex wrote:
On 5/16/19 12:04 AM, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s


Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

Here is a de-crustified link:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/

Thanks! Links to the patch are in the article.

But the article doesn't say if you're still vulnerable with Remote
Desktop disabled.

 

>But the article doesn't say if you're still vulnerable with >Remote Desktop disabled.

Relates to remote desktop, I have a hunch that this is more common in large networks as the admins probably do it. In many places it is they who must install any new software or even updates. The users are not permitted.

I am not worried about my two boxes on XP. First of all remote desktop is not going to run, it is disabled. Second of all, NO EXE that comes from the internet will run without specific admin permission. It's the version.

The downside is very few people have the proper disks and know how to install this version just right for all the best advantages. I got it from the best PC guru I know, that I know of. There are two others now that may be better or at least more up to date. See he was out of commission fr a bit, he "found" about fifty grand and the people who lost it were not happy with his personalized care of it. I'll probably never find him now.

I have hear a near plethora of horror stories about XP. For example one was that I was going to have the FBI knocking at my door because someone had hacked me and is serving kiddie porn files or a terrorist training site online lessons, shit like that. I CAN'T EVEN DO THAT, end user ISPs don't even allow it IIRC.

I had a virus attack. I used to have an outdated Java, I probably still do. On bootup every time it nagged me to install the update. Well when I caught this little critter it started bugging me every few minutes. So one time I didn't X out of it and just put it out of the way, ran a virus scan. Guess what ! It eliminated the virus and the behavior stopped.

Now I made some decisions and they are based on facts. One is that I got a BAD THING that would not harm my PC because I wasn't completely updated. Needless to say this does not make a good case for updating. In fact it makes me want to go back to XP but I would have to learn how to connect it to highspeed. I bet not one modern virus could run in it, I also bet there is a version of Firefox that will. I'm pretty sure that even though 95OSR2 was made to be on the net, it won't support highspeed. I know 98SE will but it has to be set up manually. Also 98SE had some features I really liked.

A newer Windows OS is out of the question. I will either get a MAC or Linux when the time comes. There is just too much the newer OSes will not let me do that I really want to do. Access denied, I OWN THIS MF, you don't deny access to me. Who the fuck do you think you are ? Ad there is nothing secret about the fucking sendto menu, or the way in 98SE you could confine a file search, or... I could think up a few more but why bother ? Half this shit means nothing to most other people. But they have tried to scare me into giving uSoft money before and I didn't, and I am just fine.

The only thing I MIGHT do is get win7 Pro and "XP Mode" which emulates XP under 7. I researched it a but and even 32 bit XP will run under 64 bit 7 Pro. Win 7 Home does not have that feature. I doubt it exists at all in 8 or 10 but that is NO WAY. Absolutely.

Win 7 came out in 2009, XP came out in 2001. Except for SP2 (don't get 3 unless you need it) which was also released in 2001. So I have been running 18 year old software. (some of it is alot older, I mean running under 95 emulation because they were designed for 3.1) Now, when and if I really have to, figuring 18 years from 2009 would be 2027. I'll be 67 if I am alive, and there is some doubt. In fact there is MUCH doubt.

So let's assume I can get another three years out of this. I'll be 61. If I still work I really want to keep XP but if I can get that emulator and there is no other way that is what I'll do.

They dropped XP support in 2014, I didn't partake anyway except for a few things. I never needed SP3 so I never got it. They will drop 7 support in 2020. I will be 60. Except for a few things I picked and chose I got almost nothing from uSoft since 2011 issue. I did get Win32hlp.exe for some of my older programs and in fact I should put that on everything I got that runs them. Surprisingly, the Vista box runs them.

What would you do ? I am kinda getting old but not completely yet. I think I can get by for at least ALMOST the rest of my life with software with which I am comfortable and (almost sometimes) know how to use. I am getting involved in work with which I am not completely familiar, it is not that complicated but still I have to get into it. I don't have time to fuck around customizing a new OS anymore. I just started this in December so I have to pay attention to it.

I need this PC to work just how it does. Where do I go ?

Here.
Place called Fetlife.
Place called Audioasylum.
Craigslist.
EBay.
Tekscopes and other groups at groups.io.
My email.
Hifiengine.
Hifimanuals.
http://bee.mif.pg.gda.pl/ciasteczkowypotwor/ (a really good compendium of test equipment service info)

I go to youtube and sometimes my outdated updates cannot play a video or something, I just download it with Qdownloader and VLC will play it.

I also go to news sites, like APNEWS.COM for example.

I do not even seek porn, I have more than the internet. Well I have more of the good shit anyway. I do not play games. I do not do Faceass or Myshit or Twitsrus. My email does not open attachments, it asks.

So this new bad guy on the block, how is it propagated ? Email ? Certain code loading from malicious websites ? If I don't go there...

 

[Robert Baer]

Tom Del Rosso wrote:

John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/05/15 9:08 p.m., bitrex wrote:
On 5/16/19 12:04 AM, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s


Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

Here is a de-crustified link:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/

Thanks! Links to the patch are in the article.

But the article doesn't say if you're still vulnerable with Remote
Desktop disabled.

Take it on faith regarding Microsoft, that disabling that service
will bake absolutely NO difference.

There have been numerous programs for remote access and computer
control for years.
Even runs on XP despite being designed for Win7; never tried any of
them in Win2K.



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[bitrex]

On 5/16/19 3:25 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:

I need this PC to work just how it does. Where do I go ?

Here.
Place called Fetlife.

<record scratch>

Goddamn son I did not need to know that! Install the patch and always
wear a rubber

Place called Audioasylum.
Craigslist.
EBay.
Tekscopes and other groups at groups.io.
My email.
Hifiengine.
Hifimanuals.
http://bee.mif.pg.gda.pl/ciasteczkowypotwor/ (a really good compendium of test equipment service info)

I go to youtube and sometimes my outdated updates cannot play a video or something, I just download it with Qdownloader and VLC will play it.

I also go to news sites, like APNEWS.COM for example.

I do not even seek porn, I have more than the internet. Well I have more of the good shit anyway. I do not play games. I do not do Faceass or Myshit or Twitsrus. My email does not open attachments, it asks.

So this new bad guy on the block, how is it propagated ? Email ? Certain code loading from malicious websites ? If I don't go there...

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s


Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
<no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s
Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not with
malware. Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance. What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP. Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest
printers and hardware, etc. I have no plans to go down with a sinking
ship, and am slowly and painfully migrating the important programs to
various machines running later Windoze mutations.

XP market share is less than 1% and falling:
<http://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-201609-201904>
However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share. It's been about 5 years
since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP. I might switch
to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 years.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[bitrex]

On 5/17/19 12:27 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s
Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not with
malware. Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance. What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP. Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest
printers and hardware, etc. I have no plans to go down with a sinking
ship, and am slowly and painfully migrating the important programs to
various machines running later Windoze mutations.

XP market share is less than 1% and falling:
http://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-201609-201904
However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share. It's been about 5 years
since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP. I might switch
to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 years.

just install linux and stop the insanity

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 17/5/19 2:27 pm, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s
Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not with
malware.

I've watched as newly-installed XP systems got infected less than ten
seconds after getting an IP address for the first time.

I still use some XP too, but it's virtualised in a host-only networking
environment that's behind reasonable firewalls.

Clifford Heath.

 

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:52dsdelifnc2h4jv65li18b4hnqd7a1auf@4ax.com:

> Skype,

skype only updates on windows 10 machines.

 

[Robert Baer]

bitrex wrote:

On 5/17/19 12:27 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s

Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP.  One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista.  I have had problems, but not with
malware.  Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance.  What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP.  Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest
printers and hardware, etc.  I have no plans to go down with a sinking
ship, and am slowly and painfully migrating the important programs to
various machines running later Windoze mutations.

XP market share is less than 1% and falling:
http://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-201609-201904

However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share.  It's been about 5 years
since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP.  I might switch
to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 years.


just install linux and stop the insanity
Yes..then no Windoz programs operate properly.

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[Robert Baer]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s
Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not with
malware. Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance. What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP. Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest

* -----------------^-- use Mozilla Firefox 52.9.0
* Adobe? The video players seem to work and insist on updates, which
also seem to work. Never tried to find the most "modern" Acrobat reader
as i use Acrobat 4.0 for PDF R/W. When the more "modern" PDFs crash it
(still rare), i use the Foxit reader.

printers and hardware, etc. I have no plans to go down with a sinking
ship, and am slowly and painfully migrating the important programs to
various machines running later Windoze mutations.

XP market share is less than 1% and falling:
http://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-201609-201904
However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share. It's been about 5 years
since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP. I might switch
to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 years.

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[Clifford Heath]

On 17/5/19 4:32 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:52dsdelifnc2h4jv65li18b4hnqd7a1auf@4ax.com:

Skype,

skype only updates on windows 10 machines.

There is no use for Skype these days, except to contact people who
refuse to upgrade to anything else.

Telegram,
Signal,
Any of the browser-based WebRTC clients (I like http://appear.in).

WebRTC is better than Skype ever was, it's built-in to your browser, and
once connection is established it doesn't route traffic through any 3rd
party snooper^H^H^H^H^Herver.

Clifford Heath

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 5/17/19 3:34 AM, Robert Baer wrote:

bitrex wrote:
On 5/17/19 12:27 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s

Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP.  One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista.  I have had problems, but not with
malware.  Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance.  What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP.  Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest
printers and hardware, etc.  I have no plans to go down with a sinking
ship, and am slowly and painfully migrating the important programs to
various machines running later Windoze mutations.

XP market share is less than 1% and falling:
http://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-201609-201904

However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share.  It's been about 5 years
since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP.  I might switch
to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 years.


just install linux and stop the insanity
  Yes..then no Windoz programs operate properly.

I use some Windows programs, mostly Mathcad, LTspice, and Diptrace, but
some others as well. They all run fine under wine in three flavours of
Linux.

With some programs you do have to figure out which DLLs are needed, but
that's not a big problem for a technical person.

MS's current EULA would allow them to access anything on my computers.
A lot of what I do is covered by NDAs and court protective orders, so
there could be serious legal consequences (including jail) if I let MS
do that.

No, thanks.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 2:33:35 AM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s
Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not with
malware. Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance. What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP. Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest
* -----------------^-- use Mozilla Firefox 52.9.0
* Adobe? The video players seem to work and insist on updates, which
also seem to work. Never tried to find the most "modern" Acrobat reader
as i use Acrobat 4.0 for PDF R/W. When the more "modern" PDFs crash it
(still rare), i use the Foxit reader.

I thought Adobe had set an expiration date for Flash. It won't be around much longer. I don't use it anymore. If a site requires it, I find another site. They invented HTML5 for a reason.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 5,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 17 May 2019 01:17:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

>just install linux and stop the insanity

I use whatever my customers use. If they run Windoze, I run Windoze.
However, that may soon change. I've been trying to retire for the
last year or so with little success. Eventually, it will happen. The
Windoze machines will probably remain because I don't plan to just
dump all my current Windoze customers. However, for my own personal
abuse, Linux is definitely in the plan. I currently have two Mint
19.1 machines running the MATE desktop. I also have a motley
assortment of Raspberry Pi boards running mostly Raspbian Stretch and
old laptops running various light weight Linux versions. Most of the
Windoze software that I need runs nicely under Wine. Others, like MS
Office, can be replaced by Linux equivalents. I'm having a few
problems running Steam games but am finding Valve Proton a big
improvement:
<https://www.pcgamesn.com/non-steam-windows-games-linux-valve-update>

In theory, switching from Windoze to Linux will eventually be only a
matter of moving my user files from my Windoze machines to my Linux
machines.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 11:27:05 PM UTC-5, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I >drag around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not >with malware. Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep >the forces of evil at a distance. What has gone wrong is that >some of the software that I use quite often, will not run or >update on XP.

Well of course part of it is product development but then that is always done for one reason. Plus "they" are all in it together. "You must buy an updated version of this program to run in Windows ___". Then we got "this program will not run in Windows ___, you must update your operating system". Then, "This hardware does not meet the system requirements of Windows ___ so you need to update your computer". Then "This motherboard requires Windows ___ or higher".

Why aren't you on the merry go round ? You got good enough credit to buy a new PC every month. (actually not doing that is probably one of the reasons you do, and don't ask how I know, if you do I'll email you how) You are a guru, a thaumaturge, you should have something about two steps up from the best ones the government has. Here we have a guy who can explain how a phased array antenna works but is a Luddite. I bet your car is ten years old. You don't by chance still have a turntable... (I do)

>Specifically, Adobe products,

Adobe is worse than even the old Creative Labs back in the 1990s. They actually still own the shit and if you lose the disk you might as well throw their hardware in the trash. However Acrobat Reader is portable up to at least version 6.

>Firefox,

Firefox 52, AFAIK is the last version that will run in XP. It comes portable, you just run the EXE. At least that's what I did. there is an update for it and I would have to assume it works in XP because 52 is almost specifically for XP. If it will update on Vista I bet I can just copy it to the XP box(es) and it just runs. the update IS an installable. Why ? Ask them.

>TurboTacks,

Then don't file taxes and when they bust your door down tell them to call Bill Gates.

>Skype,

Everyone I know is ugly.

>drivers for the latest printers and hardware, etc.

I buy printers that last.

>I have no plans to go down with a sinking ship, and am slowly >and painfully migrating the important programs to various >machines running later Windoze mutations.

Seems like most of the time you have to run the 32 bit OS for that. There is an XP emulator for Windows 7 Pro from Microsoft which will run older programs and according to some even 32 bit XP will run in 64 bit 7 and run 32 bit programs plus whatever else XP can be made compatible to. I have found very little it can't and I got software back to the DOS days. One is Dataease and I am surprised it can handle the NTFS file system. This IS DOS. I would like to have a version of Xtree Gold that'll run in XP. (or better)

> XP market share is less than 1% and falling:

I am in the 1% ? Wow. Man I only work about ten hours a week. I must be doing something right...

> However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share. It's been about >5 years since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP. >I might switch to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 >years.

Me too. I just will not put up with 10.

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[Rick C]

On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:27:05 AM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 13:37:41 +1000, Clifford Heath
no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 16/5/19 2:04 pm, bitrex wrote:
https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-windows-xp-patch-very-bad-sign/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wired&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_fb&fbclid=IwAR32t0CMFVPvsWeUtE8j-KHTf7JAQir5Z3INDu9inRktnfWOGl-NnleyB6s
Malware exploiting the vulnerability will be hitting the 'net in the
next 48 hours

If you've got an XP machine on the Internet, you already have more
malware than you need.

Both my office and home desktops run XP. One of the laptops I drag
around in my car runs Vista. I have had problems, but not with
malware. Malwarebytes and Avast are sufficient to keep the forces of
evil at a distance. What has gone wrong is that some of the software
that I use quite often, will not run or update on XP. Specifically,
Adobe products, Firefox, TurboTacks, Skype, drivers for the latest
printers and hardware, etc. I have no plans to go down with a sinking
ship, and am slowly and painfully migrating the important programs to
various machines running later Windoze mutations.

XP market share is less than 1% and falling:
http://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-201609-201904
However Windoze 7 still has 33% market share. It's been about 5 years
since Microsoft stopped admitting that they wrote XP. I might switch
to Windoze 7 and junp ship when it sinks in 5 years.

Windows 10 is really pretty good. I don't know anyone who has any valid complaints about it. Of course saying that will bring all the creepy crawlies out of the wood work. Still, what do you have against it? It seems pretty tameable to me.

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