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Jan Panteltje <panteltje@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:tiioo8$3ckk3$1@dont-email.me:

> Oh and Biden is the US god?

No, but Jan Panteltje is a brain adled utter idiot.

> Mr Xi was elected by the people,

Don\'t be so sure. Communist nations have a habit of altering
election results. Free nations do not.

as was Biden (with help from
votes from all the criminals he collected with \'defund the police\'
and \'open the borders\' and now tries again with \'legalize
marijuana\').

You are an abject idiot, chump.
81 MILLION VALID VOTERS voted for Biden to lead us. We are ALL
still here and exactly NONE of us voted twice or voted from the
grave, you STUPID propaganda upsucking dumbfuck! And none of us came
from prison cells or border crossings. Damn you are one stupid fuck
boy, fuck boy.

I would say that YOU have \"collected\" little shit wads to put
between your ears, but that cannot be since you are made from shit
wads, 100%.

They should put your severely ass fucked whore mother in prison for
failing to flush you the moment she shat you.

 

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Jan Panteltje panteltje@yahoo.com wrote in news:tiit7a$3ctuv$1@dont-
email.me:

> and the party is: a representation of the people.

Tell that to the citizens of Taiwan.

Jan Panteltje has to be the most stupid fuck in his nation. That we
CAN be sure of.

 

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whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
news:cc92b095-0218-4a28-8084-dae7d604284en@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 11:37:38 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje
wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it
happened whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e...@googlegroups.com>:
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.
and the party is: a representation of the people.

Only according to propoganda posters.
The party is composed of every member that Xi hasn\'t
purged in recent years... that election is fixed by back-room
intimidation tactics.

+1 for 100% accuracy. Jan Pan is about as stupid as it gets.

 

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Jan Panteltje panteltje@yahoo.com wrote in news:tij8cp$3dod6$1@dont-
email.me:

> Infighting is everywhere, also in the US, it is part of human nature.

The stupid shit you spew into this group, you retarded troll fuck, is
not \"infighting\". You are a goddamned utter idiot, boy.

And your grasp of what is or is not \"human nature\" rests firmly at
NIL, motherfucker.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e-8fbe-3b8ce4823eccn@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.

and the party is: a representation of the people.

No. The party is a ruling elite.

In \'merrica the Military Industrial Complex brings forward some puppet
that in the Biden case plays racism, sex, drugs, crime, and provokes
war in Europe to increase tax payer funded useless weapon sales,
like his PARTY did when Bil Klignon was preCedent.
The more brainless the guy the better he is suited for the puppet role.
Now the demon-crates even bring back Osama into the race
to keep the black voters... as most of \'merrica is appalled by
how things are these days under Biden and his demon-cratic government.

And you all fall for it!

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring
flatlands with muddy water.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:44:10 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e...@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.

and the party is: a representation of the people.

No. The party is a ruling elite.

It\'s a pretty extensive ruling elite. It has got 96 million members in a total population of 1.4 billion.

My impression is that being a member of the party involves doing quite a lot of work, and that if you don\'t put in the hours you don\'t stay a member.

There\'s more to it than being a registered Republican or Democrat in the US.

<snipped Jan being provocative>

> Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring flatlands with muddy water.

There\'s nothing boring about the Dutch landscape, and the rivers there aren\'t noticeably muddy. Admittedly, the best thing about Nijmegen when we lived there was that you could driver to Burgundy in six hours, but Burgundy is a very attractive destination.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0jub230jg5g831gn2r@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e-8fbe-3b8ce4823eccn@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.

and the party is: a representation of the people.

No. The party is a ruling elite.


In \'merrica the Military Industrial Complex brings forward some puppet
that in the Biden case plays racism, sex, drugs, crime, and provokes
war in Europe to increase tax payer funded useless weapon sales,
like his PARTY did when Bil Klignon was preCedent.
The more brainless the guy the better he is suited for the puppet role.
Now the demon-crates even bring back Osama into the race
to keep the black voters... as most of \'merrica is appalled by
how things are these days under Biden and his demon-cratic government.

And you all fall for it!

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring
flatlands with muddy water.

High land my foot!
You are just jealous
Send your Mean Wells back to China if you are real!

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:16:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0jub230jg5g831gn2r@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e-8fbe-3b8ce4823eccn@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.

and the party is: a representation of the people.

No. The party is a ruling elite.


In \'merrica the Military Industrial Complex brings forward some puppet
that in the Biden case plays racism, sex, drugs, crime, and provokes
war in Europe to increase tax payer funded useless weapon sales,
like his PARTY did when Bil Klignon was preCedent.
The more brainless the guy the better he is suited for the puppet role.
Now the demon-crates even bring back Osama into the race
to keep the black voters... as most of \'merrica is appalled by
how things are these days under Biden and his demon-cratic government.

And you all fall for it!

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring
flatlands with muddy water.

High land my foot!
You are just jealous

Of the Netherlands? As If!

>Send your Mean Wells back to China if you are real!

The home office is in Taiwan.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 6:48:01 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:16:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in <48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0...@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in <618173ab-6239-460e...@googlegroups.com>:
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

<snip>

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring flatlands with muddy water.

High land my foot! You are just jealous.

Of the Netherlands? As If!

Ignorance is bliss, and John Larkin has invested in truckloads of ignorance. If he were any more blissful he\'d be dead.

That\'s probably what it takes to live on top of the San Andreas fault. People with sense move out when they start to get a grip of the risk involved.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:16:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0jub230jg5g831gn2r@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e-8fbe-3b8ce4823eccn@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.

and the party is: a representation of the people.

No. The party is a ruling elite.


In \'merrica the Military Industrial Complex brings forward some puppet
that in the Biden case plays racism, sex, drugs, crime, and provokes
war in Europe to increase tax payer funded useless weapon sales,
like his PARTY did when Bil Klignon was preCedent.
The more brainless the guy the better he is suited for the puppet role.
Now the demon-crates even bring back Osama into the race
to keep the black voters... as most of \'merrica is appalled by
how things are these days under Biden and his demon-cratic government.

And you all fall for it!

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring
flatlands with muddy water.

High land my foot!
You are just jealous

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resorts/netherlands/

Those 3 meter elevations sound thrilling.

Looks like great fun. We barbarians have to ski outdoors on frozen
water.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:16:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0jub230jg5g831gn2r@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote in
618173ab-6239-460e-8fbe-3b8ce4823eccn@googlegroups.com>:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Mr Xi was elected by the people, as was Biden

Huh? Xi was elected by the party, not the people.

and the party is: a representation of the people.

No. The party is a ruling elite.


In \'merrica the Military Industrial Complex brings forward some puppet
that in the Biden case plays racism, sex, drugs, crime, and provokes
war in Europe to increase tax payer funded useless weapon sales,
like his PARTY did when Bil Klignon was preCedent.
The more brainless the guy the better he is suited for the puppet role.
Now the demon-crates even bring back Osama into the race
to keep the black voters... as most of \'merrica is appalled by
how things are these days under Biden and his demon-cratic government.

And you all fall for it!

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring
flatlands with muddy water.

High land my foot!
You are just jealous

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resorts/netherlands/

Those 3 meter elevations sound thrilling.

Looks like great fun. We barbarians have to ski outdoors on frozen
water.

C\'mon, John, Jan & Co. have done mud really well for centuries now.

Unfortunately they may wind up doing cold and dark really well this
winter too.

What with their govt\'s attempt to expropriate the farmers, hunger could
enter the mix soonish, though probably confined to their overseas
customers at first.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 3:29:05 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:16:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in <48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0...@4ax..com>:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in <618173ab-6239-460e...@googlegroups.com>:
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

<snip>

Please stay away. You wouldn\'t like it here. Stay in the boring
flatlands with muddy water.

High land my foot!
You are just jealous
https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resorts/netherlands/

Those 3 meter elevations sound thrilling.

Looks like great fun. We barbarians have to ski outdoors on frozen water..

The Netherlands does cater for psychiatric care in the community. If you are crazy enough to want to risk breaking your neck and pretty much every other bone in your body by getting on ski\'s and sliding down steep snow-covered slopes, the Netherlands can provide facilities where you can act out your obsessions.

It\'s not a large country, so you can drive from there to places with longer, steeper hills which can be snow-covered for more of the year.

And the there are special flights to get you home to a Dutch hospital after you\'ve broken your leg or your neck, or wrecked your brain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Friso_of_Orange-Nassau

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 3:38:47 PM UTC+11, Phil Hobbs wrote:

John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 15:16:17 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:44:01 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in <48qqkh5u5c1bv72m0...@4ax.com>:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 06:37:03 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:06:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in <618173ab-6239-460e...@googlegroups.com>:
On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:21:19 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

<snip>

> What with their govt\'s attempt to expropriate the farmers, hunger could enter the mix soonish, though probably confined to their overseas customers at first.

The government isn\'t trying to expropriate any farmers. The problem is farmers who try to raise pigs and cattle in battery hen conditions, and insist on letting the urea and other organic wastes they generate run off into the local ground water.

Towns and cities have to process their biological waste in sewage farms, but the farmer don\'t want to spend money on that.

One of our friends in the Netherlands had the copper guttering around his roof rot off be cause the farmer next door was dumping enough urea into the ground water that there was enough ammonia in the air to rot copper.

The farmers do try to spin it as their right to manage their own stock on their own land but they are being greedy and irresponsible

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 21:28:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
<umaskhdt7ag2t69q69nko0l6r2fg8d4f3j@4ax.com>:

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resorts/netherlands/

Those 3 meter elevations sound thrilling.

Looks like great fun. We barbarians have to ski outdoors on frozen
water.

Every year trains with people with arms and legs in casts come back
from Switzerland here, some way to have a holiday I guess.
I do not even watch those skying competitions..

Not much winter here lately (last few years).
It is going to be Hawaii like: nice warm beaches if GlowBallWorming proceeds
or it will all flood due to sea level rise.

What will happen to \'frisco? Maybe Andreas fault...
will be Chinese anyways,, California always was a piece of China IIRC.

New theory, earth was much smaller and all covered with land.
Some other heavenly body smacked into it,
earth became bigger, the continents separated,
water everywhere, Dinos died collapsing under their own weight.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:38:38 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
<06899d6d-6fcc-241b-8cef-8662920aa320@electrooptical.net>:

C\'mon, John, Jan & Co. have done mud really well for centuries now.

Unfortunately they may wind up doing cold and dark really well this
winter too.

Not much winter here for many years now...

What with their govt\'s attempt to expropriate the farmers, hunger could
enter the mix soonish, though probably confined to their overseas
customers at first.

Yes, green idiots are everywhere, those could also be CIA operatives
trying us to get to buy US food...

My single vote has little effect on decisions made in the EU.
When the next generation grows up hungry maybe they will see the light and
abandon all that crap, My parents remembered the hunger winter in WW2
and I was brought up with that in mind.

When all is past
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/andes-plane-crash-survivors-cannabalism-b2203833.html
but \'merricans are way to fat, bad for your health...

Am looking for a nice boat, sail south, live from fish and find some nice uninhabitated island
where _ hopefully there was no US atomic testing done _ and sit in the sun without
internet and QRcodes and GPS and .. oh well maybe keep the radio
to hear where the bombs are falling...
Imagine no wall wart, shortwave reception must be great!!

Actually the world is very small these days, many have those bombs
any place safe? radiation everywhere, Musk has lost it so no Mars trip..
too cold there anyways.....
its gonna be hard !

 

[John Walliker]

On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 06:30:22 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:38:38 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in
06899d6d-6fcc-241b...@electrooptical.net>:
C\'mon, John, Jan & Co. have done mud really well for centuries now.

Unfortunately they may wind up doing cold and dark really well this
winter too.
Not much winter here for many years now...
What with their govt\'s attempt to expropriate the farmers, hunger could
enter the mix soonish, though probably confined to their overseas
customers at first.
Yes, green idiots are everywhere, those could also be CIA operatives
trying us to get to buy US food...

My single vote has little effect on decisions made in the EU.
When the next generation grows up hungry maybe they will see the light and
abandon all that crap, My parents remembered the hunger winter in WW2
and I was brought up with that in mind.

When all is past
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/andes-plane-crash-survivors-cannabalism-b2203833.html
but \'merricans are way to fat, bad for your health...

Am looking for a nice boat, sail south, live from fish and find some nice uninhabitated island
where _ hopefully there was no US atomic testing done _ and sit in the sun without
internet and QRcodes and GPS and .. oh well maybe keep the radio
to hear where the bombs are falling...
Imagine no wall wart, shortwave reception must be great!!

Actually the world is very small these days, many have those bombs
any place safe? radiation everywhere, Musk has lost it so no Mars trip..
too cold there anyways.....
its gonna be hard !

If you want to get properly depressed then you should read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)

John

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 02:44:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened John
Walliker <jrwalliker@gmail.com> wrote in
<fafe8274-07a8-481d-b541-e8084374ab34n@googlegroups.com>:

On Tuesday, 18 October 2022 at 06:30:22 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:38:38 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in
06899d6d-6fcc-241b...@electrooptical.net>:
C\'mon, John, Jan & Co. have done mud really well for centuries now.

Unfortunately they may wind up doing cold and dark really well this
winter too.
Not much winter here for many years now...
What with their govt\'s attempt to expropriate the farmers, hunger could
enter the mix soonish, though probably confined to their overseas
customers at first.
Yes, green idiots are everywhere, those could also be CIA operatives
trying us to get to buy US food...

My single vote has little effect on decisions made in the EU.
When the next generation grows up hungry maybe they will see the light and
abandon all that crap, My parents remembered the hunger winter in WW2
and I was brought up with that in mind.

When all is past
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/andes-plane-crash-survivors-cannabalism-b2203833.html
but \'merricans are way to fat, bad for your health...

Am looking for a nice boat, sail south, live from fish and find some nice uninhabitated island
where _ hopefully there was no US atomic testing done _ and sit in the sun without
internet and QRcodes and GPS and .. oh well maybe keep the radio
to hear where the bombs are falling...
Imagine no wall wart, shortwave reception must be great!!

Actually the world is very small these days, many have those bombs
any place safe? radiation everywhere, Musk has lost it so no Mars trip..
too cold there anyways.....
its gonna be hard !

If you want to get properly depressed then you should read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_(novel)

Ah! I think I have seen the movie or heard the radio broadcast...
OTOH he is a bit over-pessimistic.
Wildlife is flourishing around Chernobyl, mostly because there are no humans there to kill it
we had some of the fallout here, you were warned not to eat vegetables from your garden etc,
the airco filers in the building I worked had to be replaced as they were \'hot\',
so imagine what you inhaled outside.. am still around.
It inspired me to build some radiation detection equipment and monitor for radiation 24/7
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/sc_pic/
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/gm_pic/
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/pic/gm_pic2/
http://panteltje.com/pub/gamma_soectrometer_IMG_4505.JPG
still looks Ok now tick tick tick

We have iodine pills just in case...
Another good movie is Dr Strangelove
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Strangelove
have it on DVD ..
One of my favorite movies is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Def-Con_4
space based nukes....

Russia just launced 2 mysterious spacecraft, US has some stuff up there too.
Long ago a UK hacker who hacked some satellite was arrested, its all to easy!!

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 05:12:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Mon, 17 Oct 2022 21:28:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote in
umaskhdt7ag2t69q69nko0l6r2fg8d4f3j@4ax.com>:

https://www.skiresort.info/ski-resorts/netherlands/

Those 3 meter elevations sound thrilling.

Looks like great fun. We barbarians have to ski outdoors on frozen
water.

Every year trains with people with arms and legs in casts come back
from Switzerland here, some way to have a holiday I guess.
I do not even watch those skying competitions..

I used to ski in Aspen. The joke was Texans showing up with expensive
Bogner outfits and Hexcel skis and falling off the chairlifts.

In Tahoe now, we get big Chinese families renting cabins and condos,
who sure look new to snow. But they tend to take bunny-slope lessons
and not fall so much.

Skiing takes a while to get into. It took me a couple of weeks to
figure out how to turn.

Not much winter here lately (last few years).
It is going to be Hawaii like: nice warm beaches if GlowBallWorming proceeds
or it will all flood due to sea level rise.

What will happen to \'frisco? Maybe Andreas fault...

The experts expect the Big One to be in southern California.

The fault is just south of here. Check google earth. The Crystal
Springs reservoirs are a chain of subduction lakes. The fault heads
out to sea between the beach and Mussel Rock in Pacifica.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w1810tfita6t993/20211204_143346.jpg?raw=1

Check youtube for Pacifica Drone. Pacifica is falling into the ocean.

>will be Chinese anyways,, California always was a piece of China IIRC.

They can fight the Mexicans for California.

The Russians want Alaska back too.


Oh well, back to measuring leakage inductances.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 3:01:30 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

Large sections of NS 1 & 2 need to be replaced. Practically the entire section from Russia coast to Germany coast will be under-water for months, by the time they get to it. Inside of the pipe-line is probably unprotected steel and won\'t last long under sea-water. Who would risk and finance NS 3?

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Gazprom-Large-Section-Of-Nord-Stream-Needs-To-Be-Replaced.html

Maybe they can install a liner. I know they install liners in old gas lines made from galvanized steel that are at end of life. The pipes go from being gas tight structural support to just structural support, the liners do the gas tight part. The liner installation is done with the pipes in place, no digging except at strategic access points.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 10:53:39 AM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:

On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 12:31:00 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
On 10/16/2022 12:01 AM, Ed Lee wrote:
Large sections of NS 1 & 2 need to be replaced. Practically the entire
section from Russia coast to Germany coast will be under-water for months,
by the time they get to it.
But that doesn\'t necessarily mean the pipe, itself, is compromised over
that same distance. One would assume that a pipe intended to be surrounded
by salt water would have some sorts of internal mechanisms that isolate
\"exposed\" sections of pipe in the event of a pressure loss -- simply
because a rupture could render many miles of laid pipe \"unrecoverable\".
If they said \"small section\" need to be replaced, then i would think so. But they said \"large section\" and how large is large? Potentially the entire section under-water is large.

Danish police in a news release today said a 50 meter gap was blown out of the line.

The pipes are welded in-place and sealed with concrete from outside. No sure how strong is the seal inside, but they didn\'t expect exposed sea-water for extended period of time.

Putin the Poor is desperate to get Europe back into Russia gas dependency. I am sure he wants a time machine to go back to February.