Tv reception

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Once upon a time on usenet Petzl wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
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Petzl wrote:
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Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz
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F Murtz wrote:
Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For months I have been having problems with tv
reception TV not working on most channels for hours, I
have been blaming 4g towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up
etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost
unbelievable. TV does not work if the kitchen light is
on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led
ceiling LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha


With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite
collar on
the
supply lead.

If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite
clamp on collars
that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the
smaller sizes you're
likely to want are harder to find.

When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I
might shift
the
coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.

Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so
ferrite at fitting next, who knows where next if that
does not work.

Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like
Bunnings or Kmart
or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the
one you already have.

Or Aldi.




appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of
electronic transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12
volt side.

It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)

Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and
interference because on
rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
interference
for a short time

Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.

Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture
off lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion
very conclusive over many many months even though I only
recently discovered reason, since ferrite absolutely no hickups

Good luck
So your aerial is analogue?

There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this
country.

OK Digital Antennas

There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.

But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial"
instalation.

Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your
previous one, but there is nothing digital about it, its just as
analog as the old one.

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler

Some do and they vary as to scale and implimentation. Sure tha flash ones
have all of the gee-gaws but lesser TVs not so much.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)

 

[F Murtz]

Petzl wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


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F Murtz wrote:
Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For months I have been having problems with tv reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g
towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led ceiling
LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha


With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite collar
on
the
supply lead.

If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite clamp on
collars
that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the smaller sizes
you're
likely to want are harder to find.

When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I might
shift
the
coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.

Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so ferrite at
fitting next, who knows where next if that does not work.

Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like Bunnings or
Kmart
or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the one you
already have.

Or Aldi.




appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of electronic
transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12 volt side.

It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)

Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and interference because
on
rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
interference
for a short time

Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.

Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture off
lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion very conclusive
over many many months even though I only recently discovered reason,
since ferrite absolutely no hickups

Good luck
So your aerial is analogue?

There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this country.

OK Digital Antennas

There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.

But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial" instalation.

Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your previous one,
but there is nothing digital about it, its just as analog as the old one.

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

 

[Rod Speed]

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Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


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F Murtz wrote:
Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For months I have been having problems with tv reception
TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been blaming 4g
towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost
unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led
ceiling
LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha


With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite
collar
on
the
supply lead.

If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite clamp
on
collars
that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the smaller
sizes
you're
likely to want are harder to find.

When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I
might
shift
the
coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.

Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so ferrite
at
fitting next, who knows where next if that does not work.

Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like Bunnings
or
Kmart
or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the one
you
already have.

Or Aldi.




appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of
electronic
transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12 volt side.

It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)

Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and interference
because
on
rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
interference
for a short time

Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.

Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture off
lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion very
conclusive
over many many months even though I only recently discovered
reason,
since ferrite absolutely no hickups

Good luck
So your aerial is analogue?

There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this country.

OK Digital Antennas

There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.

But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial"
instalation.

Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your previous
one,
but there is nothing digital about it, its just as analog as the old
one.

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler


Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

 

[Petzl]

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:31:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz
haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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F Murtz wrote:
Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For months I have been having problems with tv
reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been
blaming 4g
towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost
unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led
ceiling
LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha


With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite
collar
on
the
supply lead.

If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite
clamp on
collars
that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the
smaller sizes
you're
likely to want are harder to find.

When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I
might
shift
the
coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.

Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so
ferrite at
fitting next, who knows where next if that does not work.

Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like
Bunnings or
Kmart
or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the
one you
already have.

Or Aldi.




appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of
electronic
transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12 volt side.

It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)

Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and
interference because
on
rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
interference
for a short time

Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.

Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture
off
lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion very
conclusive
over many many months even though I only recently discovered
reason,
since ferrite absolutely no hickups

Good luck
So your aerial is analogue?

There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this country.

OK Digital Antennas

There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.

But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial"
instalation.

Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your
previous one,
but there is nothing digital about it, its just as analog as the
old one.

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler


Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90 something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna
--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"

 

[F Murtz]

Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:31:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz
haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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F Murtz wrote:
Benderthe.evilrobot wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For months I have been having problems with tv
reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been
blaming 4g
towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost
unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led
ceiling
LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha


With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite
collar
on
the
supply lead.

If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite
clamp on
collars
that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the
smaller sizes
you're
likely to want are harder to find.

When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I
might
shift
the
coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.

Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so
ferrite at
fitting next, who knows where next if that does not work.

Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like
Bunnings or
Kmart
or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the
one you
already have.

Or Aldi.




appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of
electronic
transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12 volt side.

It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)

Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and
interference because
on
rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
interference
for a short time

Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.

Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture
off
lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion very
conclusive
over many many months even though I only recently discovered
reason,
since ferrite absolutely no hickups

Good luck
So your aerial is analogue?

There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this country.

OK Digital Antennas

There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.

But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial"
instalation.

Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your
previous one,
but there is nothing digital about it, its just as analog as the
old one.

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler


Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90 something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to figure out

 

[Petzl]

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:29:27 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90 something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to figure out

I believe you now all info has been looked at
--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"

 

[Petzl]

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 01:59:12 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler


Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

Might not be under "info" but as far as I remember all my TV's showed
signal strength somewhere even my black & white?

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"

 

[F Murtz]

Rod Speed wrote:

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Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:24:41 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:26:22 +1100, "Rod Speed"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:



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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 17:22:54 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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"Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:58:07 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:42:54 +1100, F Murtz
haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


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F Murtz wrote:
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"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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For months I have been having problems with tv
reception TV not
working on most channels for hours, I have been
blaming 4g
towers,
fixed wireless towers etc that have just been put up etc.
I have just found the cause by accident, almost
unbelievable.
TV does not work if the kitchen light is on.
The culprit is one of these, a 12" or so multiple led
ceiling
LED
similar to this,
http://imgur.com/a/dj5ha


With a metal cased unit you can get away with a ferrite
collar
on
the
supply lead.

If you have to go inside - you can get split ferrite
clamp on
collars
that can be fitted without lifting any wires, the
smaller sizes
you're
likely to want are harder to find.

When the temp in the roof gets below the high fourties I
might
shift
the
coax that must be passing near,and or try ferrite.

Just looked in roof, coax goes nowhere near light so
ferrite at
fitting next, who knows where next if that does not work.

Get a better LED light and get it from somewhere like
Bunnings or
Kmart
or Amazon so you can return it if its just as bad as the
one you
already have.

Or Aldi.




appear to have fixed it, clip on ferrite mains side of
electronic
transformer and one turn in a donut on the 12 volt side.

It is a recessed flat 200 mm dia 25 watt led.(fairly bright)

Tv now works, it was a combination of signal and
interference because
on
rare occasions the signal was strong enough to overcome the
interference
for a short time

Could be coincidence and just now getting good reception.

Absolutely no chance, without the ferite lights on, tv picture
off
lights off, tv picture on except extremely rare occasion very
conclusive
over many many months even though I only recently discovered
reason,
since ferrite absolutely no hickups

Good luck
So your aerial is analogue?

There is no such thing as a digital aerial for TV in this country.

OK Digital Antennas

There is no such thing as a digital antenna for TV in this country.

But the local Antenna installers advertise "digital aerial"
instalation.

Just more sales bullshit. Yes it's a better antenna than your
previous one,
but there is nothing digital about it, its just as analog as the
old one.

OK a recieving Digital Antennas!
F Murtz should able to see what signal he gets on his TV mines 9 out
of 10. the old was 3-4 out of 10

What are you measuring it with?

The TV's themselves have a signal strenght reading
just push "info" on TV remote controler


Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90 something.

 

[F Murtz]

Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:29:27 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90 something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to figure out

I believe you now all info has been looked at

Something strange has happened recently also, I am now getting
Wollongong and sometimes sydney

 

[Petzl]

On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:33:38 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:29:27 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual, there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90 something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to figure out

I believe you now all info has been looked at

Something strange has happened recently also, I am now getting
Wollongong and sometimes sydney

That's actually annoying as when you update your TV search it comes up
with a lot of fuzzy channels. On my TV can't delete them
--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"

 

[Rod Speed]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:29:27 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual,
there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display
somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated one to
ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted
strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it will
not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted as
you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then channel
I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90
something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to figure
out

I believe you now all info has been looked at

Something strange has happened recently also, I am now getting Wollongong
and sometimes sydney

Likely because the kitchen light isnt obliterating them
anymore if that happens with the kitchen light on.

 

[F Murtz]

Rod Speed wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:58a2cefc$0$34701$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com...
Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:29:27 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual,
there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display
somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated
one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted
strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it
will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted
as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then
channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it
for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90
something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to
figure out

I believe you now all info has been looked at

Something strange has happened recently also, I am now getting
Wollongong and sometimes sydney

Likely because the kitchen light isnt obliterating them
anymore if that happens with the kitchen light on.

not sure the kitchen light has much to do with reception of Wollongong
as the kitchen light is only 6 months or so old and before that
Wollongong reception was iffy, it is only recently I have noticed better
reception. It could be my fiddling before I discovered the light problem
may have made better connection in some thing like the masthead power
supply or various coax plugs.

 

[Petzl]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:26:04 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:58a2cefc$0$34701$c3e8da3$dbd57e7@news.astraweb.com...
Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:29:27 +1100, F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com
wrote:

Pressed info, says nothing about signal strength.

They don't all access that display that way. Look at the manual,
there are
few digital TVs that don't have the signal strength display
somewhere.

I have a signal strength meter which has a meter calibrated
one to ten
but the scale has nothing to do with the scale of transmitted
strength
it is just a means of measuring best signal for direction it
will not
measure total strength out of ten from min to max transmitted
as you
adjust the range with a pot

By changing control from PVR to tv and going to menu and then
channel I
can then get signal strength for the channel I am on then doing it
for
each channel in turn I found strengths ranging from 69 to 90
something.

7 -9 out of 10 means it's not the Antenna

As I said it was the led light fitting, fixed since I put ferrite fore
and aft of the electronic transformer, just took many months to
figure out

I believe you now all info has been looked at

Something strange has happened recently also, I am now getting
Wollongong and sometimes sydney

Likely because the kitchen light isnt obliterating them
anymore if that happens with the kitchen light on.
not sure the kitchen light has much to do with reception of Wollongong
as the kitchen light is only 6 months or so old and before that
Wollongong reception was iffy, it is only recently I have noticed better
reception. It could be my fiddling before I discovered the light problem
may have made better connection in some thing like the masthead power
supply or various coax plugs.

The first thing one should get is signal strength shown on TV
--
Petzl
Arguing with a woman is like reading the Software License Agreement.
In the end, you ignore everthing and click "I agree"