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[Zootal]

He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph wiring
to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

You have to watch out though, some of PHucker's fairy tales are vaguely
plausible!

Regulations don't stop accidents or idiots. My neighbor down the road had
her appliances fried because of a power co. employee screwup. They happily
replaced her appliances and everyone was very glad she didn't get
electrocuted or had her house burn down. Stuff happens.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

Losing your adult teeth is neither universal nor inevitable. I've lost only
one of them -- due to a crack likely caused by a genetic defect. I expect to
have all the rest when I die.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

ian field wrote:

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:30:04 -0000, William Sommerwerck
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I think the capacitors have sharted ...

Is that a portmanteau word? Perhaps a mixture of "shorted" and
"farted"...

You obviously haven't smelled one after its vented.

Oh, yes I have. Not just vented, but exploded...

8 of them today in fact, in PC power supplies. Ever connected to another
phase instead of neutral? And no it wasn't me. But he's gonna pay for
it.


You're a goddamned idiot if you are in a setting where AC power lines
get toyed with.

He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph wiring to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

You have to watch out though, some of PHucker's fairy tales are vaguely
plausible!

You mena that he might really have one parrot?


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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:29:54 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:31:27 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John


I haven't lost 6.5 teeth in my entire (considerable) adult life, let alone
the last 10 years. I don't think that I could come up with anyone in my
extended family or friends, who has lost that many either. Where did this
little gem of a 'fact' come from - "Dentistry for Beginners", published
1802, maybe ?

Arfa


I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

John

Been doing MTBF calculations recently?

 

[ian field]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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ian field wrote:

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:30:04 -0000, William Sommerwerck
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I think the capacitors have sharted ...

Is that a portmanteau word? Perhaps a mixture of "shorted" and
"farted"...

You obviously haven't smelled one after its vented.

Oh, yes I have. Not just vented, but exploded...

8 of them today in fact, in PC power supplies. Ever connected to
another
phase instead of neutral? And no it wasn't me. But he's gonna pay for
it.


You're a goddamned idiot if you are in a setting where AC power lines
get toyed with.

He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph wiring
to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

You have to watch out though, some of PHucker's fairy tales are vaguely
plausible!


You mena that he might really have one parrot?

Apparently there are witnesses to the parrot breeding operation.

With some breeds selling for up to Ł4,500 I wonder how much he bothers
telling the tax man.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:44:59 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:29:54 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:31:27 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:26bek41epgocgnfmq6d53i1k8u108j17d3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John


I haven't lost 6.5 teeth in my entire (considerable) adult life, let alone
the last 10 years. I don't think that I could come up with anyone in my
extended family or friends, who has lost that many either. Where did this
little gem of a 'fact' come from - "Dentistry for Beginners", published
1802, maybe ?

Arfa


I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

John

Been doing MTBF calculations recently?

Actually, yes. Some of our customers insist on having the silly
numbers. Our actual field failure rates are generally several times
better than MIL-HBK or Bellcore calculated values. Unless there's a
real problem, in which case it's worse until we fix it.

You might as weigh it and apply a FITS/gram factor.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 08:40:34 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

Losing your adult teeth is neither universal nor inevitable. I've lost only
one of them -- due to a crack likely caused by a genetic defect. I expect to
have all the rest when I die.

I lost four wisdom teeth, all at once.

John

 

[William Sommerwerck]

I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

Losing your adult teeth is neither universal nor inevitable. I've lost
only one of them -- due to a crack likely caused by a genetic defect.
I expect to have all the rest when I die.

I lost four wisdom teeth, all at once.

I had all four of mine extracted in 1970. But the deliberate extraction of
commonly impacted teeth is not a "loss".

 

[Zootal]

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gi8o0v$rkm$1@news.motzarella.org...

I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

Losing your adult teeth is neither universal nor inevitable. I've lost
only one of them -- due to a crack likely caused by a genetic defect.
I expect to have all the rest when I die.

I lost four wisdom teeth, all at once.

I had all four of mine extracted in 1970. But the deliberate extraction of
commonly impacted teeth is not a "loss".

I likewise had all of my wisdom teeth removed in ~1980. And it was no loss
.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:29:54 -0000, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highnotlandthistechnologypart.com> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:31:27 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:26bek41epgocgnfmq6d53i1k8u108j17d3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John


I haven't lost 6.5 teeth in my entire (considerable) adult life, let alone
the last 10 years. I don't think that I could come up with anyone in my
extended family or friends, who has lost that many either. Where did this
little gem of a 'fact' come from - "Dentistry for Beginners", published
1802, maybe ?

Arfa


I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

I think my sig made the assumption that people with baby teeth don't smoke yet.

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[Peter Hucker]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:45:51 -0000, Archimedes' Lever <OneBigLever@infiniteseries.org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:30:04 -0000, William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I think the capacitors have sharted ...

Is that a portmanteau word? Perhaps a mixture of "shorted" and
"farted"...

You obviously haven't smelled one after its vented.

Oh, yes I have. Not just vented, but exploded...

8 of them today in fact, in PC power supplies. Ever connected to another phase instead of neutral? And no it wasn't me. But he's gonna pay for it.


You're a goddamned idiot if you are in a setting where AC power lines
get toyed with.

The building I work in is being extended and refurbished (involving rewiring). What would you suggest I do? Apart form insist they stop using Irish electricians?

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[Peter Hucker]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:36:23 -0000, Zootal <giganews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote:

He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph wiring
to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

So because there is a regulation, this magically stops a clumsy/stupid/ignorant/sleepy electrician from mixing up the British and EEC wiring colours and connecting the wrong things to the load? We got two phases connected to the load instead of phase and neutral. A few surge protector plugs were no longer plug shaped, and were not the original colour.

You have to watch out though, some of PHucker's fairy tales are vaguely
plausible!

Regulations don't stop accidents or idiots. My neighbor down the road had
her appliances fried because of a power co. employee screwup. They happily
replaced her appliances and everyone was very glad she didn't get
electrocuted or had her house burn down. Stuff happens.

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The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

ian field wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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ian field wrote:

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com
wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:30:04 -0000, William Sommerwerck
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

"ian field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:j2C_k.26717$Nq1.14140@newsfe10.ams2...

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ghefab$g7g$1@news.motzarella.org...


I think the capacitors have sharted ...

Is that a portmanteau word? Perhaps a mixture of "shorted" and
"farted"...

You obviously haven't smelled one after its vented.

Oh, yes I have. Not just vented, but exploded...

8 of them today in fact, in PC power supplies. Ever connected to
another
phase instead of neutral? And no it wasn't me. But he's gonna pay for
it.


You're a goddamned idiot if you are in a setting where AC power lines
get toyed with.

He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph wiring
to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

You have to watch out though, some of PHucker's fairy tales are vaguely
plausible!


You mena that he might really have one parrot?


Apparently there are witnesses to the parrot breeding operation.

Parrot breeding? I figured he was a pervert.

He's as bad as Phil, and his sheep.

With some breeds selling for up to Ł4,500 I wonder how much he bothers
telling the tax man.

Report him and find out.


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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Peter Hucker]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:25:57 -0000, Zootal <giganews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote:

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:gi8o0v$rkm$1@news.motzarella.org...
I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

Losing your adult teeth is neither universal nor inevitable. I've lost
only one of them -- due to a crack likely caused by a genetic defect.
I expect to have all the rest when I die.

I lost four wisdom teeth, all at once.

I had all four of mine extracted in 1970. But the deliberate extraction of
commonly impacted teeth is not a "loss".


I likewise had all of my wisdom teeth removed in ~1980. And it was no loss
.

Did you enjoy the experience?

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Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice?"

 

[Zootal]

I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year
lifespan.

Losing your adult teeth is neither universal nor inevitable. I've lost
only one of them -- due to a crack likely caused by a genetic defect.
I expect to have all the rest when I die.

I lost four wisdom teeth, all at once.

I had all four of mine extracted in 1970. But the deliberate extraction
of
commonly impacted teeth is not a "loss".


I likewise had all of my wisdom teeth removed in ~1980. And it was no
loss
.

Did you enjoy the experience?

Actually, yes. They used some pretty good drugs on me. At the time, they
could have taken all of my teeth and my tongue too and that would have been
just fine with me

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:abednfUSLIK7ctvUnZ2dnUVZ_sbinZ2d@earthlink.com

Microsoft started under a different business name, building
electronic vehicle counters that were used to audit the traffic on a
road. Then they wrote one of the first BASIC interpeters for the early
kit computers under their new Microsoft name.

The first MS product I used was the Z80 card for the Apple II. I wonder who
their hardware engineer was. None of the founders who got rich seem to have
that kind of hardware knowledge. He must have designed the traffic counter
too.


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[Tom Del Rosso]

"Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote in message
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"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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No, the hardware is fine. The drivers have issues sometimes.


The drivers are written by the hardware makers. D U H !

But that doesn't mean the hardware is bad. DUH! Hardware is
different from software.

He's saying ATI, the company, sucks and I agree. Their drivers often don't
install right, and if you email them the reply sounds like they read only
the subject and not the email.


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[Michael A. Terrell]

Tom Del Rosso wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Microsoft started under a different business name, building
electronic vehicle counters that were used to audit the traffic on a
road. Then they wrote one of the first BASIC interpeters for the early
kit computers under their new Microsoft name.

The first MS product I used was the Z80 card for the Apple II. I wonder who
their hardware engineer was. None of the founders who got rich seem to have
that kind of hardware knowledge. He must have designed the traffic counter
too.

Who knows? It may have been done out of house and done by a
consultant, or engineering firm. Most electronics with the microsoft
name can be identified as outside designs.


The controller was designed by the founders. It was a very niche
market at the time, since most highway departments still used the rubber
tube & mechanical counters for each lane. It was still not much more
than a hobby level business.


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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[ian field]

"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:36:23 -0000, Zootal <giganews@zootal.nospam.com
wrote:


He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph
wiring
to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

So because there is a regulation, this magically stops a
clumsy/stupid/ignorant/sleepy electrician from mixing up the British and
EEC wiring colours and connecting the wrong things to the load? We got
two phases connected to the load instead of phase and neutral. A few
surge protector plugs were no longer plug shaped, and were not the
original colour.

Seems to be adaptive fairy tales - it was only 8 electrolytics in the
original post.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:10:27 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
news:qhhek4dufcg6djbsma23ljg6kkok49miek@4ax.com...
No, the hardware is fine. The drivers have issues sometimes.


The drivers are written by the hardware makers. D U H !

But that doesn't mean the hardware is bad. DUH! Hardware is different
from software.

Look, dumbfuck, if a hardware maker has issues writing drivers for
their hardware that lasts for YEARS, that usually indicates something
lacking in the hardware itself.


Humans are different from Campbell family members... at least as it
relates to your branch.