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[Bob Campbell]

"Zootal" <giganews@zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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Back in the SP1 or so era, I found W2K to be unusable on a few of my boxes
because of the lack of drivers for some of my hardware. Specifically, I
had ATI Rage Fury cards in my box, and ATI was unable to provide stable
drivers for these cards. I had to abanodon it and go back to Win98 on
those boxes. Other compability issues prevented me from using Win2K until
later service packs came out.

But that pretty much applies to any OS, and it is not the fault of the OS.
Any OS is only as stable as the weakest driver. On this 64 bit Vista
machine, the only issue I have ever had in 1 year's use was with a buggy ATI
2600 driver. Yep, ATI again! I would get the "The atimmx (whatever it is
called) driver has stopped responding...restarting the driver" message at
random times. Sometimes it would recover, sometimes the machine would blue
screen.

This was purely a driver problem. Once I installed a different version of
the driver (9 months ago), no more problems. Vista is now as solid as 2000
or XP ever was. This machine gets pretty hard use - dual monitors,
multiple Virtual PC VMs (Server 2003, XP and Vista Business) running for
weeks at a time for my development job, plus the usual Internet/Itunes/Media
Player/MP3s/camera/pictures home use.

Most OS instability can be traced to either bad drivers or flaky hardware
(usually RAM, but can also be power supply or hard drive - I have seen all 3
cause random reboots). Particularly with the NT/2000/XP/Vista line. All
of these have been very stable for me, given solid hardware.

BTW, what does any of this have to do with Electrolytics? Topic Drift
Much?

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:26:58 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

Win2000 was an improvement, but was ill suited to environments
where it was exposed to a wide variety of hardware and software.
Microsoft didn't really make a stable and versatile OS until XP
came out.

I've been running W2K for over seven years, and it has been extremely
stable. I can't remember the last cras. And the few crashes I did have were
Word lockups -- which I also haven't seen in several years.

The consensus is still that W2K is the most-stable version of Windows.

I can't comment as to versatility, but W2K was around for some time, and
drivers for almost everything are available.

Windows 2000 was the final release of Windows NT. Windows NT was very
stable, depending on the platform it was run on. NT server was so stable
that all the banks got rid of OS/2 and adopted Windows, thanks to NT
server, and subsequently, W2k. OS/2 was run at nearly EVERY bank in the
entire world at that time.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 10:14:24 -0800, "Zootal" <giganews@zootal.nospam.com>
wrote:

Specifically, I had
ATI Rage Fury cards in my box, and ATI was unable to provide stable drivers
for these cards. I had to abanodon it and go back to Win98 on those boxes.

It would have been much simpler to change the video card.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.

You're an idiot. Don't give that 'It's just a sig' horseshit either.

Your stats, as well as your stat source are as retarded as you are.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:30:04 -0000, William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

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"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I think the capacitors have sharted ...

Is that a portmanteau word? Perhaps a mixture of "shorted" and
"farted"...

You obviously haven't smelled one after its vented.

Oh, yes I have. Not just vented, but exploded...

8 of them today in fact, in PC power supplies. Ever connected to another phase instead of neutral? And no it wasn't me. But he's gonna pay for it.

You're a goddamned idiot if you are in a setting where AC power lines
get toyed with.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:19 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

But that pretty much applies to any OS,

That ATI hardware sucks on all of them? Yes... I agree 100%.

 

[Bob Campbell]

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:19 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:


But that pretty much applies to any OS,


That ATI hardware sucks on all of them? Yes... I agree 100%.

No, the hardware is fine. The drivers have issues sometimes.

 

[Bob Campbell]

"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
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DOS simply loads TSRs, it doesn't 'manage' them.

Then what gives each program time on the CPU?

DOS is single-tasking. In DOS, there is only ever one program at a time
executing. The currently executing program "owns" the machine. There is
no "executive", there is no time slicing of CPU time. TSRs simply hook
into the keyboard interrupt, and when a certain key combination is pressed,
DOS passes control to the TSR. When the TSR "exits" by the user pressing
ESC or whatever, control passes back to DOS. However, the TSR remains in
memory. Hence TSR - Terminate and Stay Resident. When the key combo is
pressed again, the TSR gets control.

Again, there is no "executive" here. DOS passed control to the TSR, and
the TSR passes control back to DOS. It *looks* like multi tasking thru
clever programming, but it really isn't. Whatever you were doing before is
suspended while the TSR is in control, and the TSR is suspended when it
hands control back to DOS.

There is nothing "giving each program time on the CPU" but the running
programs themselves. If the TSR crashes, it will never return control to
DOS. If another application crashes, pressing the TSR key combo will have
no effect.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.

But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:25:29 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:12:19 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:


But that pretty much applies to any OS,


That ATI hardware sucks on all of them? Yes... I agree 100%.


No, the hardware is fine. The drivers have issues sometimes.

The drivers are written by the hardware makers. D U H !

ATI sucks. Their driver support, particularly for platforms other than
windows is very poor, or at least was for years. If it is better now, it
is only because they wised up a bit.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:19:42 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
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DOS simply loads TSRs, it doesn't 'manage' them.

Then what gives each program time on the CPU?

DOS is single-tasking. In DOS, there is only ever one program at a time
executing. The currently executing program "owns" the machine. There is
no "executive", there is no time slicing of CPU time.

I fell in love with DesqViewX. It was among the first for the early
x86 architectures to slice things up well.

Snipped other good multitasking info.

 

[Archimedes' Lever]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:22:48 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John

Bwuahahahah!

Cannabis is a better brand. Tobacco sucks/kills.

Cannabis is healthy.

 

[flipper]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:42:10 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
<OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:26:58 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

Win2000 was an improvement, but was ill suited to environments
where it was exposed to a wide variety of hardware and software.
Microsoft didn't really make a stable and versatile OS until XP
came out.

I've been running W2K for over seven years, and it has been extremely
stable. I can't remember the last cras. And the few crashes I did have were
Word lockups -- which I also haven't seen in several years.

The consensus is still that W2K is the most-stable version of Windows.

I can't comment as to versatility, but W2K was around for some time, and
drivers for almost everything are available.



Windows 2000 was the final release of Windows NT.

Don't know what gave you that idea. XP, Server 2003, Home Server
Vista, Server 2008, and the upcoming Windows 7 are also NT kernel.

Windows NT was very
stable, depending on the platform it was run on. NT server was so stable
that all the banks got rid of OS/2 and adopted Windows, thanks to NT
server, and subsequently, W2k. OS/2 was run at nearly EVERY bank in the
entire world at that time.

 

[Arfa Daily]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John

I haven't lost 6.5 teeth in my entire (considerable) adult life, let alone
the last 10 years. I don't think that I could come up with anyone in my
extended family or friends, who has lost that many either. Where did this
little gem of a 'fact' come from - "Dentistry for Beginners", published
1802, maybe ?

Arfa

 

[Bob Campbell]

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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No, the hardware is fine. The drivers have issues sometimes.


The drivers are written by the hardware makers. D U H !

But that doesn't mean the hardware is bad. DUH! Hardware is different
from software.

 

[Bob Campbell]

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:19:42 -0500, "Bob Campbell" <bob@bob.bob> wrote:

"Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote in message
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DOS simply loads TSRs, it doesn't 'manage' them.

Then what gives each program time on the CPU?

DOS is single-tasking. In DOS, there is only ever one program at a time
executing. The currently executing program "owns" the machine. There
is
no "executive", there is no time slicing of CPU time.

I fell in love with DesqViewX. It was among the first for the early
x86 architectures to slice things up well.

Yeah, I ran DesqView and DV 386 (not X) for years. I actually got X but
never used it.

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years.

Where did you get that figure from ? Or was it a joke ?

I've only lost 2 'wisdom teeth' (intentionally extracted) and one other that
was extracted because it was causing jaw crowding.

I've had root canal work one one molar where it hadn't been filled carefully
enough and caused decay. That's got a crown. And my 2 front teeth were made
'wonky' by aforementioned crowding and these have been crowned now too.

Graham

 

[ian field]

"Archimedes' Lever" <OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:22:48 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John

Bwuahahahah!

Cannabis is a better brand. Tobacco sucks/kills.

Cannabis is healthy.

There's no telling what dealers mix into resin to make up the weight - I
usually have an allergic reaction.

The last time I tried weed that was supposedly skunk it had hardly any
effect, I just don't bother anymore.

 

[ian field]

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On Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:30:04 -0000, William Sommerwerck
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I think the capacitors have sharted ...

Is that a portmanteau word? Perhaps a mixture of "shorted" and
"farted"...

You obviously haven't smelled one after its vented.

Oh, yes I have. Not just vented, but exploded...

8 of them today in fact, in PC power supplies. Ever connected to another
phase instead of neutral? And no it wasn't me. But he's gonna pay for
it.


You're a goddamned idiot if you are in a setting where AC power lines
get toyed with.

He's just making up stories, the UK has strict regulations on 3-ph wiring to
prevent a single phase appliance being exposed to more than one phase.

You have to watch out though, some of PHucker's fairy tales are vaguely
plausible!

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:31:27 -0000, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:44:39 -0800, Archimedes' Lever
OneBigLever@InfiniteSeries.Org> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:17 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <none@spam.com> wrote:

A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 years.


But the average person loses about 6.5 teeth every 10 years. I suppose
that means smoking is good for dental health.

John


I haven't lost 6.5 teeth in my entire (considerable) adult life, let alone
the last 10 years. I don't think that I could come up with anyone in my
extended family or friends, who has lost that many either. Where did this
little gem of a 'fact' come from - "Dentistry for Beginners", published
1802, maybe ?

Arfa

I just did the math. 20 baby teeth, 32 adult teeth, 80 year lifespan.

John