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I have been cutting power usage in my home. I have saved about 100 kwh
a
month so far. I put power strips on all the vampire stuff like DVR,
TV,
Stereo, DVD players, etc.. I shut of light timers and motion
detectors.
With the fridge off I still get meter spin, though it is very slow. So
I
shut of the power breaker to the smoke detectors. Meter still spins.
Found my electric tooth brush charger on, shut that off, meter still
spins. Drill charger in the garage, shut that off, meter still spins.
I can't think of anything else. I shut off the Mains 100 amp breaker
and
guess what? The goddamn meter still spins, though slightly, about 30
seconds a click. So nothing is on and my meter spins, what is it, the
meter itself? I'm paying for the power company's meter power?
Check your meter by shutting of your main breaker and see if the meter
still spins. If I have a defective meter I'd like to know.
CH
As a retired electric meterman, Tho only meters I found doing this with
no
connected load was after a near by lightning strike. This could have
happened any time in the past. Call utility company to check it out. If
no
response from them call the PUC (public utility commission). Colorado
has
this. (PUC) WW
So it is possible for lightening to affect an electric meter?
Yes. Damages the potential coil in the meter. WW
This reference is quite a good description of how the electromechanical
type of watt-hour meter works
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_meter
Interestingly, it says that the meter itself consumes about 2 watts, but
it doesn't say if that is all the time, irrespective of whether there is
household current being drawn, or not.I rather suspect that it is all the
time, and is the power required to feed the voltage and lag coils, which
are probably slung directly across the incoming supply - but probably
after the current sensing coil - in which case, this 2 watts of
consumption will be metered, and hence paid for by the consumer.
Question for WW as an ex-meter reader. Are you aware of electro-mechanical
meters having a certified lifetime, and whether they do actually go out of
calibration? And if they do, whether it's typically to the loss of the
supply company, or the consumer ? The reason I ask, is that the utility
company keep sending me letters (addressed to "The Occupier" so good
excuse to ignore them) requesting that I contact them to arrange a time to
come and replace my meter for one of the new electronic ones. I get the
feeling that the 'certified lifetime' tack, is just a smokescreen to get
you to have a remotely readable electronic meter put in for their
convenience, but I would be interested in hearing if anybody has any sure
knowledge of what the real reasons are.
Arfa
Arfa.... I changed out lots of meters as a routine change on years in
service. Many 20 years. Never found a "defective" one. Some tested out 1 or
2 % slow. But in a lightning area replaced many the did not run at all due
to a open potential coil. Also found some that people tampered with to
lower reading. Computer readings found this. Customer was billed what was
owed or power would be terminated. Because of vandals breaking glass we
started using plastic covers. Found one all electric house that showed very
little usage. Meter checked OK. Was running normal in day time. Checked
after dark, lights and maybe heat on and meter did not move. Customer had
drilled a very small hole in plastic cover and had a broom straw inserted
to stall meter disk. The computer always won. WW