Toshiba TV29C90 problem; Image fades to black...

I once bought a Sears chest type top door freezer.That piece of junk ran
ok for about two or three years.Then I took it somewhere to get it
fixed.A few days later, that Sears piece of junk quit working
again.Those so-called ''freezers'' are not worth wasteing your money
on.Nowadays, neither are kitchen refrigerators.JUNK.And Maytag? Forget
Maytag eveythings.Buy a Whirlpool.
cuhulin

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

cuhulin@webtv.net wrote:
cuhulin


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

 

[ian field]

<pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ccd39b8-0800-4f0a-a8ae-5f072a43016a@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Last summer I had a bug lantern in the bedroom - its the first summer ever
that I didn't get bites.

That's all I need to know.

 

[Deke]

"ian field" <dai.ode@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:jBBaj.14954$Hc3.655@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...

pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ccd39b8-0800-4f0a-a8ae-5f072a43016a@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they
don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly
designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with
a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Last summer I had a bug lantern in the bedroom - its the first summer ever
that I didn't get bites.

That's all I need to know.

No screens on the window? Or how about mosquitoe netting?

 

[Meat Plow]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:59:43 +0000, ian field wrote:

pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ccd39b8-0800-4f0a-a8ae-5f072a43016a@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Last summer I had a bug lantern in the bedroom - its the first summer ever
that I didn't get bites.

That's all I need to know.

I had one in the back yard away from where we are active. I can attest
that the zapper does attract mosquitoes just by watching them fly into it.

 

[James Sweet]

"ian field" <dai.ode@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:abuaj.677$ou3.670@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...

Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

When the lamp fails, the zapper voltage multiplier is still in GWO but a
replacement tube is Ł5 against Ł8 for a new lantern. Normally not a good
investment, but in view of the very short tube life something else can be
done.

To avoid the cost of a replacement tube it should be tackled before
failure, the units I have it was found that removing the ballast
components left enough space on the PCB to glue on a board salvaged from a
7W CFL, if one of the ex ballast capacitors is added to the electrolytic
on the CFL board it will have a very long life and the tube should be good
for a couple of years continuous use. An incidental benefit is energy
saving, when I opened the 7W CFL I found it had tiny TO92 transistors, so
the board is obviously not going to draw as much power as the original
ballast resistors which had burnt the PCB black!

I wonder if these are getting worse? Mine is a few years old and has a
magnetic ballast, it's been run for years on all the original parts.

I always wanted to modify one of these with a capacitor bank to give the
grid a little more kick when a bug flies through, I guess I have a little
bit of Tim the tool man in me.

 

[James Sweet]

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

I've read this as well, however mine gets filled with thousands of
mosquitoes during the summer when I have it up. Maybe it's a different
species out here in the northwest but there's no doubt that bug zappers are
effective here. The moths I wouldn't mind, but they fly all over the porch
light and hit me in the face, I'd much rather they go after the bug zapper,
however relatively few of them get through the grill.

 

[Jerry Peters]

In sci.electronics.repair Donna Ohl, Grady Volunteer Coordinator <donna.ohl@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 15:10:03 -0800 (PST), hallerb@aol.com wrote:
add be prepared to replace drain valve, which may not shut or drip
when closed, espically the plastic ones. some valves will clog replace
tank drain valve with a ball valve at new tank install time

Thank you for all the advice!
You've given us the courage to tackle this ourselves!
Bill and I read *every* post here!

To replace our dripping 40-gallon (65-gallon FHR) home water heater, we
bought the best water heater I could find.

This turned out to be the $450 Sears #33154 (actually manufactured by AO
Smith) 97-gallon First Hour Rating (FHR) and 0.63 Energy Factor (EF),
nominally with a 50-gallon tank and coming with a (rather useless) 12-year
warranty on parts and a slightly useful 1-year warranty on labor.

We're going to do the job tomorrow so I'm reading *everything* I can find
on the net on how to properly remove and install a natural gas home hot
water heater. I'll summarize the steps we plan on taking in a subsequent
posting.

So far, Bill bought $686.47 in parts while I write up every step for him
before we do the work tomorrow, together. He will return any unused parts,
but here is what he bought from Sears today to get ready for the job.

$449.00 Sears #33154 50-gallon 12/1 year hot water heater 97FHR .63EF
$ 2.19 1-ounce TFE paste (for the gas pipe fittings)
$ 9.59 3/4-inch quarter-turn water valve (replaces plastic drain valve)
$ 8.99 3/4-inch CSA gas ball valve (for the gas line)
$ 15.99 3/4-inch swing check valve (for additional heat-loss protection)
$ 7.99 18" 3/4-inch by 3/4 inch FIP corrugated copper/brass flex pipe (x2)
$ 7.49 15" 3/4-inch by 3/4 inch FIP corrugated copper/brass flex pipe (x2)
$ 5.99 12" 3/4-inch by 3/4 inch FIP corrugated copper/brass flex pipe (x2)
$ 12.99 18" 3/4-inch stainless-steel water-heater connector pipe (x2)
$ 10.99 12" 3/4-inch stainless-steel water-heater connector pipe (x2)
$ 8.99 3/4-inch by 3/4-inch Dialectric Union B (x4)
$ 3.59 1.5-inch long 3/4-inch male:male brass pipe nipples (x4)
$ 2.39 1.0-inch long 3/4-inch male:male brass pipe nipples (x3)
$ 52.32 sales tax at 8.25%
--------
$686.47 total

The reason for *both* the copper flex pipe and stainless steel pipe is
because the stainless steel might allow us to not need the dialectric
unions which are huge. Remember, the new tank is five inches taller than
the old tank so we are going to have problems with the plumbing most likely
so having fewer nipples and dialectric unions will shorten the lines a bit.

Do we really need to isolate the copper from the brass from the steel?
We assume so.

The flexible water-heater connection lines should already have an
insulator/gasket at each coupling.

I've never been thrilled using dialectric unions, after being inplace
a few months the galvanized section was corroded internally. I use
flex corrugated copper and dialectric nipples, galvanized steel with
a plastic liner, between the tank and the flex lines.

Copper or brass from steel. Most plumbing components like valves are
brass and can be directly connected to copper.

Jerry

Also, we bought the extra one-way check valve even though the water heater
apparently comes with heat-loss protectors and we can s-kink the flex lines
(not the steel lines, just the copper lines).

Do you think the one-way hot-water-outlet check valve will work to slow
heat loss?

Note we didn't buy the insulating blanket for the water heater, nor the
insulation for the hot-water pipes yet. We figured we could do that later.

Our biggest question is whether we really needed the dialectric unions.
Since they were female:female, that necessitated brass nipples on each
side, further lengthening the lines which we need to shorten.

What do you think?
Donna & Bill

 

[ian field]

"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:1gc9hn.9ia.19.2@news.alt.net...

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:59:43 +0000, ian field wrote:


pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ccd39b8-0800-4f0a-a8ae-5f072a43016a@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they
don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly
designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with
a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Last summer I had a bug lantern in the bedroom - its the first summer
ever
that I didn't get bites.

That's all I need to know.

I had one in the back yard away from where we are active. I can attest
that the zapper does attract mosquitoes just by watching them fly into it.

But the greenie weenies will still swear blind they don't!

 

[ian field]

"Deke" <no spam@starband.net> wrote in message
news:b2190$476b3716$943f4036$4393@STARBAND.NET...

"ian field" <dai.ode@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:jBBaj.14954$Hc3.655@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...

pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ccd39b8-0800-4f0a-a8ae-5f072a43016a@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they
don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly
designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series
with
a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Last summer I had a bug lantern in the bedroom - its the first summer
ever
that I didn't get bites.

That's all I need to know.


No screens on the window? Or how about mosquitoe netting?

Screens on the windows until the weather gets too hot, then I shut all the
windows and rely on the ACU - I've no idea how the biting insects get in.

 

[ian field]

"James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HwIaj.5960$Xh1.4249@trndny03...

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).



I've read this as well, however mine gets filled with thousands of
mosquitoes during the summer when I have it up. Maybe it's a different
species out here in the northwest but there's no doubt that bug zappers
are effective here. The moths I wouldn't mind, but they fly all over the
porch light and hit me in the face, I'd much rather they go after the bug
zapper, however relatively few of them get through the grill.

Its also preferable they go in the bug zapper than munch their way through
my linen closet.

 

[ian field]

"James Sweet" <jamessweet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:csIaj.6702$Vg1.5641@trndny04...

"ian field" <dai.ode@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:abuaj.677$ou3.670@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

When the lamp fails, the zapper voltage multiplier is still in GWO but a
replacement tube is Ł5 against Ł8 for a new lantern. Normally not a good
investment, but in view of the very short tube life something else can be
done.

To avoid the cost of a replacement tube it should be tackled before
failure, the units I have it was found that removing the ballast
components left enough space on the PCB to glue on a board salvaged from
a 7W CFL, if one of the ex ballast capacitors is added to the
electrolytic on the CFL board it will have a very long life and the tube
should be good for a couple of years continuous use. An incidental
benefit is energy saving, when I opened the 7W CFL I found it had tiny
TO92 transistors, so the board is obviously not going to draw as much
power as the original ballast resistors which had burnt the PCB black!


I wonder if these are getting worse? Mine is a few years old and has a
magnetic ballast, it's been run for years on all the original parts.

If your bug zapper has a magnetic ballast it doesn't fall into the same
category as the piss-poor design cheap units I bought, they probably have
acceptable tube life left as they are.

I always wanted to modify one of these with a capacitor bank to give the
grid a little more kick when a bug flies through, I guess I have a little
bit of Tim the tool man in me.

These units usually use a Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier or some
variation of, don't be tempted to use a HV transformer, its ability to
supply full current continuously would present a fire risk!

There's plenty on the web about Cockroft-Walton multipliers that can help
with adding more stages or beefing up the existing caps.

 

[Meat Plow]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:56:42 +0000, ian field wrote:

"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:1gc9hn.9ia.19.2@news.alt.net...
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:59:43 +0000, ian field wrote:


pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message
news:4ccd39b8-0800-4f0a-a8ae-5f072a43016a@w56g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 20, 8:33 am, "ian field" <dai....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Here's a trick that might interest anyone who enjoys repairing things.

Every year the local cheapo store stocks "bug lanterns" which they
don't
roll out until half way through summer because they know the blue
fluorescent tube won't last the distance! The ballast is badly
designed -
consisting of a pair of parallel capacitors (1u & 0.56u) in series with
a
parallel pair of 100 Ohm 2W resistors (for 240V).

With respect:

The much better money-saving idea would be to not purchase a bug-
zapper altogether. I am not sure of the range of species in the
British Isles, but in the US, excepting the housefly, and then only
indoors, there are no "harmful" insects that are attracted by UV
light. Typical annoying insects - mosquitoes, gnats, no-see-ums,
blackflies, green-head flies, wasps, yellow-jackets, horse flies, deer
flies and so forth will not be attracted by the UV light. On the other
hand, beneficial insects such as some pollenating moths (all moths for
that matter) are more often destroyed. In one study, the quantity of
mosquitoes to all insects destroyed was eight (8) to ten-thousand
(10,000).

http://news.ufl.edu/1997/07/23/zap/

And there are many more studies out there on the issue.

So, don't waste your money.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Last summer I had a bug lantern in the bedroom - its the first summer
ever
that I didn't get bites.

That's all I need to know.

I had one in the back yard away from where we are active. I can attest
that the zapper does attract mosquitoes just by watching them fly into it.


But the greenie weenies will still swear blind they don't!

I used mine when we were outside. I wasn't trying to save the neighborhood
from the wrath of mosquitoes but rather distract the majority of them away
from our outdoor activity area. My lot ends into a heavily wooded park so
there are hoards of mosquitoes looking for a meal around dusk. The bug
zapper definitely makes a difference when it was placed in the right area
away from us. And as far as moths go, I think they are a very minor player
in pollination. What concerns me much more is the problem we are having
with honey bees which are responsible for much of the pollination.

 

[Meat Plow]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 09:50:09 -0800, pfjw@aol.com wrote:

From the University of Florida Study:

"While the UV light in these bug zappers draws a wide range of
insects, mosquitoes and other biting insects are more attracted
to the carbon dioxide....."

Key words "more attracted"

It goes without saying that this is so since it is how they survive.
However, I see the female fly into zappers by the hundreds and each one of
those is one less that is likely to bite me or my pets. So I stand upon my
personal experience with zappers regardless of what quotes you can cut and
paste.

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Dec 21, 9:40 am, Meat Plow <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

I used mine when we were outside. I wasn't trying to save the neighborhood
from the wrath of mosquitoes but rather distract the majority of them away
from our outdoor activity area. My lot ends into a heavily wooded park so
there are hoards of mosquitoes looking for a meal around dusk. The bug
zapper definitely makes a difference when it was placed in the right area
away from us. And as far as moths go, I think they are a very minor player
in pollination. What concerns me much more is the problem we are having
with honey bees which are responsible for much of the pollination.

The honey bees are in crisis - there are several thoughts as to causes
but nothing certain and certainly no cure yet.

But, as it happens, many of the mosquitoes that wind up in bug-zappers
just happen to be male - they are neither hunters nor biters, and so
are not diverted by their next meal. And as mosquitoes are happily
promiscuous, there is no need for many males.

From the University of Florida Study:

"While the UV light in these bug zappers draws a wide range of
insects, mosquitoes and other biting insects are more attracted to the
carbon dioxide exhaled by people and pets. They're also attracted to
carbon dioxide that is passed through human skin.

"The main reason bug zappers don't work is that mosquitoes are
extremely sensitive to carbon dioxide," Day said. "They see the UV
light in your yard, but once they pick up even the slightest trace of
carbon dioxide from people, they change direction and zero in on the
source of that odor. They are expert at detecting carbon dioxide at
levels as low as 50 parts per million." "

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:1gdlf6.kog.19.1@news.alt.net...

I see the females fly into zappers by the hundreds...

How do you know the gender?

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Dec 21, 1:15 pm, Meat Plow <m...@petitmorte.net> wrote:

It goes without saying that this is so since it is how they survive.
However, I see the female fly into zappers by the hundreds and each one of
those is one less that is likely to bite me or my pets. So I stand upon my
personal experience with zappers regardless of what quotes you can cut and
paste.

Hey, it's your yard, your money and your mosquitoes... and how you
manage them is up to you. My wife will tell you that I *HATE* biting
insects, but it hasn't stopped me. We prefer repellants placed
remotely to confuse the little buggers. It works. Also and blessedly,
we have breezes where we tend to sit the most - and that keeps the
bulk of them away anyway.

Now, if we were in Alaska...

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

 

[Meat Plow]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:32:08 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:

"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
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I see the females fly into zappers by the hundreds...

How do you know the gender?

They carry little pink purses.

 

[jakdedert]

Meat Plow wrote:

On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:32:08 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:

"Meat Plow" <meat@petitmorte.net> wrote in message
news:1gdlf6.kog.19.1@news.alt.net...

I see the females fly into zappers by the hundreds...
How do you know the gender?

They carry little pink purses.

....not to mention a long snout for biting.

jak