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Whiskers wrote in message
slrnncjit5.qb.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net

It seems that there are versions of the Fing app available for desktop
operating systems too <https://www.fingbox.com/download>. The 'Fing for
Linux' option lists

RPM 64 Bit or 32 Bit
DEB 64 Bit or 32 Bit
TGZ 64 Bit or 32 Bit

there may already be a 'build' of the tarball for your distro (possibly
in the 'testing' or 'user-contributed' or other 'unofficial'
repositories).
Click to expand...

Thanks Whiskers for figuring out how to finally list all the devices
on the network from the desktop/laptop computer.
https://www.fingbox.com/download

This worked:
$ wget "https://www.fingbox.com/download?plat=lx64&ext=deb"
$ mv "download?plat=lx64&ext=deb" fing_lx64.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i ./fing_lx64.deb
$ sudo fing -n 192.168.1.0/24 -r 1

Here is the result on the unrooted mobile phone:
https://i.imgur.com/XsnyHJx.gif

Here is the result on the desktop/laptop:
---------------------------------------------------------------
| State | Host | MAC Address | Last change |
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
| UP | 192.168.1.1 | 84:1B:5E:CC:A3:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.2 | 5C:0A:5B:C4:22:51 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.3 | 00:18:61:00:A4:CE | |
| UP | 192.168.1.4 | 00:1F:3B:AA:D0:4A | |
| UP | 192.168.1.5 | 40:B0:FA:88:33:A1 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.8 | 40:B0:FA:88:33:A1 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.9 | F8:D0:AC:DD:5A:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.10 | 00:14:22:FF:56:31 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.11 | 00:80:05:AA:43:55 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.116 | 00:10:83:00:8A:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.200 | 00:16:B6:53:66:91 | |
---------------------------------------------------------------

These failed to report *all* devices (hence they're useless):
$ sudo netdiscover -i wlan0 -r 192.168.1.0/24
$ sudo arp-scan --interface=wlan0 --localnet

Now we finally have a way to list *all* the devices on the network!
 
On 2016-02-22, Anda Lucite <andalucite@andalucite.net> wrote:
Whiskers wrote in message
slrnncjit5.qb.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net

It seems that there are versions of the Fing app available for desktop
operating systems too <https://www.fingbox.com/download>. The 'Fing for
Linux' option lists

RPM 64 Bit or 32 Bit
DEB 64 Bit or 32 Bit
TGZ 64 Bit or 32 Bit

there may already be a 'build' of the tarball for your distro (possibly
in the 'testing' or 'user-contributed' or other 'unofficial'
repositories).

Thanks Whiskers for figuring out how to finally list all the devices
on the network from the desktop/laptop computer.
https://www.fingbox.com/download

This worked:
$ wget "https://www.fingbox.com/download?plat=lx64&ext=deb"
$ mv "download?plat=lx64&ext=deb" fing_lx64.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i ./fing_lx64.deb
$ sudo fing -n 192.168.1.0/24 -r 1

Here is the result on the unrooted mobile phone:
https://i.imgur.com/XsnyHJx.gif

Here is the result on the desktop/laptop:
---------------------------------------------------------------
| State | Host | MAC Address | Last change |
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
| UP | 192.168.1.1 | 84:1B:5E:CC:A3:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.2 | 5C:0A:5B:C4:22:51 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.3 | 00:18:61:00:A4:CE | |
| UP | 192.168.1.4 | 00:1F:3B:AA:D0:4A | |
| UP | 192.168.1.5 | 40:B0:FA:88:33:A1 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.8 | 40:B0:FA:88:33:A1 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.9 | F8:D0:AC:DD:5A:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.10 | 00:14:22:FF:56:31 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.11 | 00:80:05:AA:43:55 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.116 | 00:10:83:00:8A:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.200 | 00:16:B6:53:66:91 | |
---------------------------------------------------------------

These failed to report *all* devices (hence they're useless):
$ sudo netdiscover -i wlan0 -r 192.168.1.0/24
$ sudo arp-scan --interface=wlan0 --localnet

Now we finally have a way to list *all* the devices on the network!
Click to expand...

Of course it is also a closed source program, as far as I can see, so
for all we know, it reports all those devices back "home"
 
On 2016-02-22, William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> wrote:
On 2016-02-22, Anda Lucite <andalucite@andalucite.net> wrote:
Whiskers wrote in message
slrnncjit5.qb.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net

It seems that there are versions of the Fing app available for desktop
operating systems too <https://www.fingbox.com/download>. The 'Fing for
Linux' option lists

RPM 64 Bit or 32 Bit
DEB 64 Bit or 32 Bit
TGZ 64 Bit or 32 Bit

there may already be a 'build' of the tarball for your distro (possibly
in the 'testing' or 'user-contributed' or other 'unofficial'
repositories).

Thanks Whiskers for figuring out how to finally list all the devices
on the network from the desktop/laptop computer.
https://www.fingbox.com/download

This worked:
$ wget "https://www.fingbox.com/download?plat=lx64&ext=deb"
$ mv "download?plat=lx64&ext=deb" fing_lx64.deb
$ sudo dpkg -i ./fing_lx64.deb
$ sudo fing -n 192.168.1.0/24 -r 1

Here is the result on the unrooted mobile phone:
https://i.imgur.com/XsnyHJx.gif

Here is the result on the desktop/laptop:
---------------------------------------------------------------
| State | Host | MAC Address | Last change |
|-------------------------------------------------------------|
| UP | 192.168.1.1 | 84:1B:5E:CC:A3:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.2 | 5C:0A:5B:C4:22:51 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.3 | 00:18:61:00:A4:CE | |
| UP | 192.168.1.4 | 00:1F:3B:AA:D0:4A | |
| UP | 192.168.1.5 | 40:B0:FA:88:33:A1 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.8 | 40:B0:FA:88:33:A1 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.9 | F8:D0:AC:DD:5A:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.10 | 00:14:22:FF:56:31 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.11 | 00:80:05:AA:43:55 | |
| UP | 192.168.1.116 | 00:10:83:00:8A:FF | |
| UP | 192.168.1.200 | 00:16:B6:53:66:91 | |
---------------------------------------------------------------

These failed to report *all* devices (hence they're useless):
$ sudo netdiscover -i wlan0 -r 192.168.1.0/24
$ sudo arp-scan --interface=wlan0 --localnet

Now we finally have a way to list *all* the devices on the network!

Of course it is also a closed source program, as far as I can see, so
for all we know, it reports all those devices back "home"
Click to expand...

So start 'etherape' or some other packet sniffer before running fing.

--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
 
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-5, 011ser...@gmail.com wrote:
> I want To hook a car amp and use car woofer can I run it thermal fuse

I would use two of them..
 
On 23/02/16 07:18, 011sergiodiaz@gmail.com wrote:
I want To hook a car amp and use car woofer can I run it thermal fuse
Click to expand...

To detonate?

--
Adrian C
 
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 2:19:01 AM UTC-5, 011ser...@gmail.com wrote:
> I want To hook a car amp and use car woofer can I run it thermal fuse

You have replied to a 16 year old thread.
 
On Sunday, March 20, 2016 at 10:37:10 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:17:54 -0400, ehsjr <ehsjr@mverizon.net> Gave us:

On 3/13/2016 11:58 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

I have 4 brand new DVMs and one uses a battery pack up in 3 days flat,
turned OFF! I did some net searching and found a forum where it was
discovered that Fluke put a cheap Toshiba supercap in the meter with a
less than 2 year lifespan and AT the same voltage by this behavior.
Click to expand...

Just an FYI: Flukes generally carry a lifetime warranty - and this expedient would void that warranty. A more serious failure would then render the unit worthless and without resort to Fluke.

Just keep this in mind.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 01:17:54 -0400, ehsjr <ehsjr@mverizon.net> Gave us:

On 3/13/2016 11:58 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

I have 4 brand new DVMs and one uses a battery pack up in 3 days flat,
turned OFF! I did some net searching and found a forum where it was
discovered that Fluke put a cheap Toshiba supercap in the meter with a
less than 2 year lifespan and AT the same voltage they were charging it
to and everyone was seeing leaking.

I knew right away that was the cause of my problem. So I bought a
higher voltage, bigger supercap with nearly the same footprint and a
slightly higher profile, and stuck it in the BAD METER! and fixed that
pup. It takes minimal GRINDING (yes, I said grinding) to make it clear,
but it will last for years without leaking since it has a higher voltage
rating and the meter will hold the date longer if the batteries do die
down. They have been in it for two weeks and no depletion, so that
nailed the problem.

I photo-documented the whole process in case anyone else has a Fluke
DVM that eats batteries for breakfast like they are going out of style.
I would have made a video, but this works. Feel free to critique or
make good use of as you wish.

http://imgur.com/a/jPlow


Brilliant! Thanks.
Click to expand...

I wish I had made a video, but all there is are the pics, so one has
to be a bit intuitive and look at the file names as well. I also put
metadata info into the file, but imgur may not take the files as they
get uploaded and my create their own versions sans metadata.

I like when I can hover over one of my Excel spreadsheets/workbooks
with my mouse and a wealth of info (which I inserted) about the file and
what it does appears before ever opening the file. The idiots at MS did
get a few things right.
 
>"Just an FYI: Flukes generally carry a lifetime warranty -"

Really. Does that apply to the 8000 series ? Buddy of mine has one the batteries leaked all over and now it acts erratic. We have NOT modified the unit, just took out the batteries. If that is under warranty hell, we'll send it in !
 
Eveready or Duracell, either will replace the unit at no cost. Chinese crap, no. Fluke would call that negligence, and rightly so.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 23:02:08 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> Gave us:

On 3/21/2016 1:04 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 22:32:02 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

It might be a real project option devised by a member of the teaching
staff who ought to know better.
Sylvia.

I suggest that this is yet another posting intended to generate
traffic and waste everyones time, for reasons unknown.

Isn't every post here for the purpose of wasting time?
Click to expand...

My Fluke Meter fix post wasn't.

And it works 100%. Batteries still full after 3 weeks, when it used
to deplete a full 6 pack in less than 3 days.
 
pfjw@aol.com <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:
Eveready or Duracell, either will replace the unit at no cost. Chinese crap, no. Fluke would call that negligence, and rightly so.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Click to expand...

The last duracell battery leakage claim I filed resulted in getting a
prepaid credit card. Had to get an all new flashlight, but it worked out
in the end. Not sure how they deal with more expensive stuff like test
equipment.
 
On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 11:59:02 AM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:

The last duracell battery leakage claim I filed resulted in getting a
prepaid credit card. Had to get an all new flashlight, but it worked out
in the end. Not sure how they deal with more expensive stuff like test
equipment.
Click to expand...

My wife once upon a time collected Fiesta Ware pottery. As you (should) know, back in the day that Fiesta first started, many of the glazes used radioactive salts for certain colors including orange, green and a few others. So, I acquired a geiger counter, military surplus, for checking that possibility. Not that the stuff was passively harmful, just that one would not wish to serve food in those pieces that were radioactive. Well, the (Eveready) batteries leaked. I sent it off to Eveready, and about a week later, received a check for $357.32 (I DO remember that number), which represented the cost of that unit when new plus the cost of my shipping the item to them. That, along with a very nice note suggesting that batteries should be removed from expensive test equipment when it is not in use to avoid inconvenience. I went back to the same source I got the first counter, and replaced it with a Navy surplus device for $75, including shipping. I gave that to my son-in-law, as he and his dad collect items that involve glazes and glass, and I now have a Civil Defense kit including scintillators and several other testers that I purchased NIB at a municipal "yard sale" for $25. Works nicely.

I now also remove batteries from my "good" stuff if it is going down for more than a week or so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_(dinnerware)

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 8:18:27 AM UTC-4, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 21/03/16 23:04, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
"Just an FYI: Flukes generally carry a lifetime warranty -"

Really. Does that apply to the 8000 series ? Buddy of mine has one the batteries leaked all over and now it acts erratic. We have NOT modified the unit, just took out the batteries. If that is under warranty hell, we'll send it in !


http://en-us.fluke.com/support/warranties/

"Industrial Products Limited Lifetime Warranty

"Lifetime is defined as seven years after Fluke discontinues
manufacturing the product, but the warranty period shall be at least ten
years from date of purchase. *(Lifetime Warranty applies to products
manufactured after October 1996"


--
Adrian C
Click to expand...

All true. But my direct experience with Fluke is that they will send on the "next best thing" when a piece is unfixable. NOTE: they have fixed, also in my direct experience, some pretty sick puppies.

Zippo will repair their lighters similarly, even if it is only a strike wheel that remains of the old device. Their factory tour (Bradford, PA) goes by the repair room where these lighters come in - and the dedicated (in every way) staff that does the repairs. A fascinating operation. Many here could learn a few things. I certainly did.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
On 21/03/16 23:04, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
"Just an FYI: Flukes generally carry a lifetime warranty -"

Really. Does that apply to the 8000 series ? Buddy of mine has one the batteries leaked all over and now it acts erratic. We have NOT modified the unit, just took out the batteries. If that is under warranty hell, we'll send it in !
Click to expand...

http://en-us.fluke.com/support/warranties/

"Industrial Products Limited Lifetime Warranty

"Lifetime is defined as seven years after Fluke discontinues
manufacturing the product, but the warranty period shall be at least ten
years from date of purchase. *(Lifetime Warranty applies to products
manufactured after October 1996"


--
Adrian C
 
pfjw@aol.com <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

All true. But my direct experience with Fluke is that they will send on
the "next best thing" when a piece is unfixable. NOTE: they have fixed,
also in my direct experience, some pretty sick puppies.
Click to expand...

Yeah I don't think the warranty they lived by early on was anything to write
home about. Somewhere in time I dropped some good coin on a 97 scope meter
and within 3 years of owning it, the backlight for the display went out, the
battery pack didn't charge anymore and eventually (using it as a bench meter
of sorts at that point) the charging wart failed.

They wanted somewhere around $300 for a repair on everything and I just
didn't think it was worth it. I found another ac adapter at a hamfest
(remember those?) and continued to use it but these days it's in a box
buried in the basement somewhere.

Zippo will repair their lighters similarly, even if it is only a strike
wheel that remains of the old device. Their factory tour (Bradford, PA)
goes by the repair room where these lighters come in - and the dedicated
(in every way) staff that does the repairs. A fascinating operation. Many
here could learn a few things. I certainly did.
Click to expand...

This is what I really wanted to comment on, those guys really do that.

I had a plain chrome lighter (but engraved) someone gave me years ago and
pretty much was a daily use item, always carried it around and in use. It
didn't "click" anymore, that steel spring thing was broke, the hinge was
loose (you needed 2 hands to use it at that point) and the fence/wheel was
blackend with use along with the wheel being wobbly.

One day while trying to slide it back in my pocket I missed, it bounced off
the wood stairs I was on and fell over the edge onto concrete basement
stairs.

At the bottom it was in peices, everything just fell apart.

So I knew about the "no matter what" lifetime warranty, filled out the form
from the website and mailed it in. I figure they would say something like,
are you nuts or something but surprise, surprise, in a about 3 weeks it was
returned, totally repaired and even came in a new box and old parts thrown
in as well.

No charge.

I mean it's just a lighter but I can't think of another company or product
that is backed up by a real lifetime warranty like that. Someone should give
Zippo an award or something.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com
 
In article <nd0jss$ci7$1@remote5bge0.ripco.com>, bje@ripco.com says...
I mean it's just a lighter but I can't think of another company or
product
that is backed up by a real lifetime warranty like that. Someone should give
Zippo an award or something.
Click to expand...

Perhaps they were counting on a smoker's lifetime not being that long...

Mike.
 
pfjw@aol.com <pfjw@aol.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at
11:59:02 AM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote: > >> The last duracell battery
leakage claim I filed resulted in getting a >> prepaid credit card. Had to
get an all new flashlight, but it worked out >> in the end. Not sure how
they deal with more expensive stuff like test >> equipment. > > My wife
once upon a time collected Fiesta Ware pottery. As you (should) know, back
in the day that Fiesta first started, many of the glazes used radioactive
salts for certain colors including orange, green and a few others. So, I
acquired a geiger counter, military surplus, for checking that
possibility. Not that the stuff was passively harmful, just that one would
not wish to serve food in those pieces that were radioactive. Well, the
(Eveready) batteries leaked. I sent it off to Eveready, and about a week
later, received a check for $357.32 (I DO remember that number), which
represented the cost of that unit when new plus the cost of my shipping
the item to them. That, along with a very nice note suggesting that
batteries should be removed from expensive test equipment when it is not
in use to avoid inconvenience. I went back to the same source I got the
first counter, and replaced it with a Navy surplus device for $75,
including shipping. I gave that to my son-in-law, as he and his dad
collect items that involve glazes and glass, and I now have a Civil
Defense kit including scintillators and several other testers that I
purchased NIB at a municipal "yard sale" for $25. Works nicely. > > I now
also remove batteries from my "good" stuff if it is going down for more
than a week or so.




That's a good practice. They only leak when you don't expect it. Then
there are always the batteries that are good for a decade past the "good
until" date.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiesta_(dinnerware)

Didn't know red was the radioactive color. I do like that green-ish
radioactive glass from the era of uranium based home products.
 
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