Toshiba TV29C90 problem; Image fades to black...

In the case of temprature extremes (outdoor applications, direct UV
exposure or vacuum tube chassis), I belive a laced bundle will outlive a
tie strapped bundle. Also more economical - have you seen the prices of
zip-ties that can handle the environmental extremes of good ol' lacing?
EEEK!

--
Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca
 
w_tom wrote:
Ty wrap, for example, a coaxial cable. Now wire's
characteristic impedance is changed where ty wrap pressure has
changed dimensions of cable.

Matt Whiting wrote:

How is tie wrapping any worse than lacing in this regard?

Matt
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You don't have to apply 50 lbs of tension to the tie wrap! :)

Matt
 
In article <crp9th01flk@enews4.newsguy.com>, whiting@chilitech.net
says...

alanh_27@yahoo.com wrote:

cable lacing... a lost art.

Is there anything that a laced cable-bundle does better than a
tie-wrapped cable-bundle?


I think it looks nicer, but functionally I don't believe there is any
difference. Both methods keep the wires neat and organized.
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Indeed there is a difference, notably in the aviation world.

Look inside the avionics bay of a commercial jet sometime. Come to
think of it, look at the innards of any piece of older avionics gear
that uses point-to-point wiring instead of, or in addition to, a printed
circuit backplane. What you'll see is the absence of tie-wraps, and an
abundance of laced cable harnesses.

I used to work at Boeing, and I had some friends in the Wire
Design group. I asked about this very question once. I was told that
tie-wraps are not favored for two reasons.

(1) If the tension on the tie-wrap is too high, it can crush
fragile coaxial cables.

(2) It's much easier to damage wire insulation under tie-wraps in
a high-vibration environment. Lacing twine is nowhere near as sharp
along its edges, and thus does not nick or cut said insulation.

Keep the peace(es).


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"Matt Whiting" <whiting@chilitech.net> wrote in message
news:crpvlo02cai@enews4.newsguy.com...

| > Matt Whiting wrote:
| >
| >>How is tie wrapping any worse than lacing in this regard?
| >>
| >>Matt
|
| You don't have to apply 50 lbs of tension to the tie wrap! :)
|
| Matt

I pull them up till they break then loosen them two clicks.
Or else I pull them up as tight as they'll go then add another 50 lbs.

N
 
does the OPA 2134 replace the Sanyo LD 3141, and does anybody have a
schematic for both?

Thanks.
 
does the OPA 2134 replace the Sanyo LD 3141, and does anybody have a
schematic for both?

Thanks.
 
Phil wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
How is tie wrapping any worse than lacing in this regard?

Matt

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41E050E6.DD043B57@hotmail.com...
Ty wrap, for example, a coaxial cable. Now wire's
characteristic impedance is changed where ty wrap pressure has
changed dimensions of cable.


That is the answer indeed.

Applying tie wraps on a coaxial cable with a copper braid - even without
exaggerating the pressure - precisely every 20 cm or so over tens of meters
makes great filters.

I suppose lacing allows a milder treatment for RF cables.
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I think the advantage of lacing here is that the loops around the bundle
are held in place along the length of the bundle. With tie wraps, more
pressure is needed to keep them from slipping over time.

--
Paul Hovnanian mailto:paul@Hovnanian.com
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"Hyperi0n" <hyperi0n@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:2005010818395216807%hyperi0n@shawca...

| I recently purchase a AOC Spectrum 9Glrs 19" CRT from Value Village for
| $19. Sure enough, it doesn't work.

| I am hoping to get input on what to test/look for next to troubleshoot
| this monitor.

I'd look at the input circuits. I had 6 (different make) monitors fried when
they spiked the voltage in a building. I just replaced the input buffer in
each.

N
 
On 08 Jan 2005 19:33:33 GMT laseranddvdfan@aol.com (LASERandDVDfan)
wrote:

This model uses two independent brushless motors for each of the spools. -
Click to expand...
I think what you meant to type was that this model uses two
independent brushless motors, one for each spool. ;-)

-
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Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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"Bob Kegel" <seventy 2002 at hotmail dot com> wrote:

(nothing) (absolutely blank) (zip) (nadda) (zilch)

Ummmm....send a copy of what?

Stan
 
Biggest advantage is you don't get cut by poorly trimmed tie wraps!
 
It weighs less, costs less, requires less equipment to install .
I've never heard of anyone slicing their hand open on lacing but I've
seen some serious lacerations from the cut-ends of tie-wrap.

If you've never done it, give it a try. Even if you don't use it,
it's a handy skill to have in your warbag.

-R.S.Hoover
 
"Slip'er" <cjhixon1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8w4Ed.47830$8e5.10565@fed1read07...
| Okay, what does lacing look like? I've never noticed it...

Looks like a sausage wrapped in string. The string may be waxed string (old
style) or small diameter plastic tubing.

N
 
"Slip'er" <cjhixon1@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8w4Ed.47830$8e5.10565@fed1read07...
Okay, what does lacing look like? I've never noticed it...


You have never worked on aircraft and are very young.
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Wot's Your Real Problem?
 
captainvideo462002@yahoo.com wrote:
I would like to thank everyone for their responses. They have been
very
helpful. I will check out Hawk this week. Lenny
Click to expand...
I got one more tip for you. If you are using dial-up services like
Juno(which is what i use) just go to Task Manager and kill it, don't
worry it wont disconnect(Task manager->Processes->juno.exe->End
process). After that you can browse using IE or what ever you are
using. This way no more disconnections or ads.
 
In alt.engineering.electrical alanh_27@yahoo.com wrote:

| cable lacing... a lost art.

Links for cable lacing:

How-to:
http://www.dairiki.org/hammond/cable-lacing-howto/

Pictures:
http://brucehowes.com/cable_lacing.htm

Products:
http://www.tecratools.com/pages/telecom/80170.html

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Slip'er wrote:
Okay, what does lacing look like? I've never noticed it...
Click to expand...
Look at pages 3 and 4:

http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/300/pdf/4b-ch11_12.pdf
 
Slip'er wrote:
Okay, what does lacing look like? I've never noticed it...
Click to expand...
Look at pages 3 and 4:
http://www.faa.gov/avr/afs/300/pdf/4b-ch11_12.pdf
 
The LD3141 is an ancient, crude & simple opamp chip in a very bizare single inline package
w/staggered leads. There is no current equivalent, but you might be able to shoehorn in (i.e.,
pin rearrangement) something like an LM741 or LM301. You don't want to try to use something
fast, like an OPA134. I have no clue where to find pin config. data on the LD3141, except
perhaps in an early '70's Akai reel to reel service manual. I think the GX-270D might have
used that chip, but I am not sure at all, but old Akai reel decks are the only place I've ever
seen LD3141's at all.

--
Stephen Sank, Owner & Ribbon Mic Restorer
Talking Dog Transducer Company
http://stephensank.com
5517 Carmelita Drive N.E.
Albuquerque, New Mexico [87111]
505-332-0336
Auth. Nakamichi & McIntosh servicer
Payments preferred through Paypal.com
"computerguy2" <refuse2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
news:a57e0c2f3f66cc221f363464120b9915@localhost.talkaboutelectronicequipment.com...
does the OPA 2134 replace the Sanyo LD 3141, and does anybody have a
schematic for both?

Thanks.
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