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Tim? Your name is TIM? How did *you* get in here? SECURITY!"Mjolinor" <mjolinor@hotmail.com> wrote:
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[...]In my opinion this group is not designed for people to show their
expertise in anything, it is just to answer questions for people who need
help.
Well, I'm new to this group (I'm reading sci.electronics.design) so
I've only seen a few hundred posts, but I'm under the impression this
group is largely for people called John to bitch at each other. For
some reason it brings to mind primary school boys pulling the hair of
the girl they fancy.
Tim
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Where you live and work is a totally personal matter, but slamming each
other's countries is just going to make everyone want to move to
Australia.
Not really. The Austrlain economy is dodgy, and the the current prime
minister is a right-wing half-wit who believes in monetarist
economics, sound money, and all the other stuff that gave us the last
great depression.
However, and this may open up a whole new sub thread, (or can of worms)
I do
have one question which has bugged me every time I've been in the
States;
Why, in a country subject to tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms,
blizzards
and, very occasionally, volcanic eruptions, are the power, telephone and
cable TV lines strung up on wooden poles?
Population density. Cables strung up on poles are cheaper, per mile,
than cables buried in trenches. In most of Europe the number of
dwelling per acre is so high that the additional cost of burying the
cable is tolerable.
And why, when there is a simple cure for power loss caused by all of
this
beside the volcanoes, which is burying the cables, doesn't anyone sue
the
power companies every time the power fails due to weather conditions
which
would not affect buried cables. Last winter we had an ice storm in
Rochester and some people had no power for two weeks. It cost the local
power company millions to put back up the lines and, as I said, it took
two
weeks to restore power to some people.
The solution is simple enough, but it isn't cheap. Even if you use a
plough arrangment to lay the cable to save the cost of digging the
trench, you've still got to re-instate road or footpath over most of
the cable route.
And nobody sued the power company! Amazing in a country where
successful
suites have been taken out against refrigerator manufacturers for not
telling people not to climb up the door!
Anyone got any ideas on this rather strange situation?
John Kenneth Gailbraith - "The Affluent Society" - private affluence
and public squalor. In this case the public squalor is the visual
contamination of the telephone and power poles and the cables hanging
all over the place.
The Europeans seem to be prepared to spend money on keeping their
public urban spaces looking good. In Nijmegen, we are even digging up
the more heavily travelled roads and resurfacing them with "very open
asphalt/concrete" which reduces traffic noise very noticeably.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
<huge snip>"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
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In the Netherlands, just down the southern branch of the Rhine fromJohn Kenneth Gailbraith - "The Affluent Society" - private affluence
and public squalor. In this case the public squalor is the visual
contamination of the telephone and power poles and the cables hanging
all over the place.
The Europeans seem to be prepared to spend money on keeping their
public urban spaces looking good. In Nijmegen, we are even digging up
the more heavily travelled roads and resurfacing them with "very open
asphalt/concrete" which reduces traffic noise very noticeably.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
I think most of the elctricity utilities in the US have a policy of getting
rid of all overhead but only as maintainance is needed.
Where is Nijmegen?
Where is Nijmegen?
In the Netherlands, just down the southern branch of the Rhine from
the German border (which s where the Rhine splits) - keep going
down-river and you get to Rotteredam.
If you ever saw the film "A bridge too far" about the 1944 allied
assault on Arnhem by airbourne troops (Operation Market Garden),
Nijmegen was last bridge that they did manage to capture.
Historically, Nijmegen is the oldest city in the Netherlands - the
name is a corruption of the Latin for "new market" - Novio Magus - and
apparently the first written record of the town goes back to 104 AD
when it was visited by Emperor Marcus Ulpius Trianus.
It was a market long before the Romans came. It sits on the last high
ground before the Rhine gets to the sea, a glacial terminal morraine
deposited during the last ice age, when the Rhine was a glacier over
most of its length.
Arnhem, 25km to the north, is on the other half of this terminal
morraine.
There - much more than you needed (or wanted) to know.
Bill Sloman, Novio Magus