The proper way to post to a group

[John Fields]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:18:04 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:01:42 GMT, "John Fortier"
jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

Snip of not very interesting stuff


The belief in the existence of dark matter is a fallacy.

Suppose for a moment that our local universe is merely a bubble
surrounded by an infinite expanse of infinitely dense, infinitely
energetic Universe. For want of a better analogy, a void in a block of
Swiss cheese. When our universe was formed and the void appeared, some
of the material from the Universe outgassed into the void and eventually
became the matter from which everything in our universe is composed.

However, since the beginning of the formation of the void, the
gravitational force of the Universe has been attracting matter back to
itself. Because of the inverse square law on our side of the void wall,
the closer the matter gets to the void's wall the more it is attracted,
the greater its velocity will become, and the greater the red shift the
farther out we look. If the velocity becomes luminal, then its mass
becomes infinite, leaves our local universe and rejoins the infinite
Universe.

So, if this conjecture is true it would explain the reason for the
increasing red shift with distance, the discrepancy between how much
matter should be here and how much there appears to be, (obviating the
need for the existence of dark matter) and the reason for the horizon of
the universe.

It would also settle the question of whether our local universe is open
or closed. Interestingly, it would also bring up the question of
whether or not the Swiss cheese was really a black hole in which we were
embedded!
--- Beverly Hillbillies snip
John Fields

Very interesting theory. However: assuming that the hole in the "Swiss
Cheese" is spherical, and that the density of the surrounding "cheese" is
constant, which seems reasonable from the relatively constant amplitued of
the microwave background radiation, it has been demonstrated, frequently,
that the gravitational effects within such a spherical chamber are zero. In
other words the attraction of the surrounding grativy generating medium
actually cancels at any point in the surrounded sphere.

---
Yes, which means if my theory is correct either our bubble isn't
spherical, the surrounding medium isn't homogenous, or both.
---

It follows from this that the atttraction of the surrounding denser medium
will have no effect on the surrounded volume, while the spherical "bubble"
exists. Therefore, matter and energy near the boundary of the "hole" will
not be affected by the presence of the surrounding denser medium more than
matter close to the center. There is no net gravitational effect which will
accelerate the matter within our universe toward the surrounding denser
medium. So, should such a super dense surrounding medium exist, it will not
explain the expanding local universe.

---
All we would need for our universe to be expanding would be for the
bubble to be growing. However, it may be that our universe is not
expanding at all but, because of the red shift, merely appears to be.

Consider: If, as a result of inhomogeneity in the cheese, matter is
being accelerated toward the wall of the bubble and is absorbed by the
bubble once it hits the wall, we will cease being able to detect it and
will see that boundary as the "horizon" of our universe. Also, if the
matter is sufficiently accelerated and goes luminal at some point we
will cease being able to detect the matter and view, instead, what
appears to be the horizon of our universe. Interestingly, if the matter
went luminal it would result in the emission of Cerenkov radiation which
we would percieve as the background radiation. On the other hand, if it
didn't go luminal, but merely smacked into the wall radiation would also
be emitted. In either case, radiation would be coming at us from
everywhere in the sky, as it does.
---

A second objection to your theory is the obvious one of asking why such
bubbles should occur in the first place, and, if they should form, what
prevents the surrounding medium from collapsing back onto them.

---
Whether our universe was formed by by a big bang, a bubble, or something
else, it's obviously here and was formed with no regard for your
objections. The question of 'why' is perhaps best left to philosophy.

I have no problem with the bubble being in a state of expansion,
contraction, or stasis, any of the three being possible.
---

gravitational effects on a surrounded sphere may be zero, the self
attraction of the surrounding medium is not zero and the enclosure will tend
to close, quite rapidly. Why then does our universe continue to exist?

---
If it _is_ in a state of contraction, it just hasn't closed in on us
yet?
---

Third, if the surrounding medium exists, why is all we see from the edge of
the universe the cosmic microwave background radiation?

---
See above
---

The argument that
the radiation from the surrounding medium is redshifted to microwave
frequencies by the gravitational effects of the surreounding medium does not
hold water for the reasons explained above. If the surrounding superdense
medium exists, we should be able to see the radiation from the inner surface
of the bubble.

---
See above
---

In fact the whole universe should be so awash with radiation
at all frequencies that life as we know it would be impossible.

---
Regardless of the spectral distribution of radiation in the universe,
life, as we know it, has evolved by adapting itself to the conditions
which exist _on our planet_, with its inherent filters surrounding us.
---

might have noticed it, myself!

---
Not necessarily. Fish that live in the deep ocean have no inkling that
they're swimming around with a pressure of 10,000PSI all around them.
---

Fourth; for us to observe a equal universal expansion in all directions, we
would have to be close tothe exact centre of th surrounded sphere. This
souds just a little coincidental to be likely, anthropic principle aside..

---
I'm not ruling out equal universal expansion, but at the moment I'm
postulating acceleration within a fixed volume.
---

I'm sorry, John, but I cannot subscribe to your theory. There are too many
holes in it, and the pun is entirely intended!

---
Apology accepted!^)
---

However, there is every probability that our universe, viewed as a whole, is
the contents of a all encompassing black hole.

---
Not _every_ probability, _some_ probability.
---

Actually, this seems to be a suitable subject for a whole new thread, but
probably not in the present news group. Do you know of a suitable group
where we could start such a thread and continue it without interfering with
the main purpose of the host group? A few opinions apart from ours on this
subject would add flavour tothe stew of contention.

---
There are undoubtedly groups where this material is on-topic, but I
don't mind continuing it here (this is currently cross-posted to four
groups) if there are no really serious objections. If there are, I'll
just quit.
---

It appears that dark matter may exist, although the case is as yet unproven.
However, darkmatter, unfortunately, does exist.

I have to ask you, John, how much time and effort have you wasted dealing
with darkmatter and his ilk and whether or not you would prefer to post to a
group where you could speak your mind openly without having to put up with
darkmatter's purile excresences and the similar eminations of those like
him.

---
I'm surprised that at the end of an otherwise rancor-free discussion you
find it necessary to sign off by adding fuel to a fire you say you'd
like to see extinguished.

Be that as it may, I really don't consider it a waste of my time or
effort honing my creative skills by engaging in verbal jousting, as long
as it remains interesting and challenging.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 03:21:13 GMT, "John Fortier"
<jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:01:42 GMT, "John Fortier"
jfortier@rochester.rr.com> wrote:


PS darkmatter, don't bother replying, I'll ignore you and you won't ever
know if you have managed to annoy me.

---
Can you say "hypocrite"?

If you're going to ignore someone (and you mean it) you can't write to
them to let them know that you're ignoring them!^)

--
John Fields

Why not? I already did. The ignoring is in affect from the time of posting
^^^^^^

effect?

the message.

Try it, It's actually very satisfying!

---
Perhaps, if what you're trying to do is elicit further responses from
the ignoree...

Besides, if you read someone you're not really _ignoring_ them, you're
just not responding to their posts.

--
John Fields

 

[Baphomet]

"Ross Mac" <macroeng@example.invalid> wrote in message
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TardMatter has no life, no future and no education...his sole quest in
life
is to flame the newsgroups...he claims to be and engineer..but so far...he
is a google poster....Just give him a problem...he will never answer!
Loosen your rubber helmet Tard boy!

"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 02:44:08 GMT, <TVANKLAVEREN@austin.rr.com> Gave
us:

I have a ProScan 60" rear projection TV sold under the RCA brand name. It
has been professionally repaired once with a replacement of a "flyback"
and
a "capacitor set". It is 5 years old, and the former repairs were
performed
11 months ago. My current experience with the TV is as follows: The TV
will
work normally for about a week, and then it will stop responding to the
power button on the front control panel and the remote control. You also
do
not hear any of the telltale signs that power has been activated such as
components charging up and (I believe) a relay triggering. If you unplug
the
TV for approx. 24 hours and then plug it back in it will operate normally
for the next 1 to 7 days, then it will begin a similar cycle.
Intermittently, it will lose audio during its time of "normal" operations
(which I usually don't notice because I tend to use the TV for video
only).
I shy away from professional repair because the last professional repair
cost me over $450 and I don't think the TV is worth too much any longer.
Any
suggestions on repair (self or suggested service) are appreciated. I have
done basic circuit board soldering and de-soldering, but do not have any
skills in circuit tracing, etc


I would check the power supply for the entire unit. Soft on
switches and standby start-up circuitry keeps this power supply up,
and the only thing that changes on start up is the loading. If it
fails, and then requires a rest before working again, it sounds like
dried out electrolytics on the supply or perhaps the IR/soft on
circuitry. Electrolytics are always the first thing I check out on
older power supplies. I know that 5 years isn't very old, but there
have been some bad batches made over the years. I recall a
motherboard recall at one point where the electrolytics had bad paste
mixes in them.

Anyway, that is a likely culprit. Another might be enough dust on a
part that it doesn't give up its heat well, and eventually runs away.

Be careful of the anode leads on those guns. Projection sets have
some mean juice there.

Another alternative is to bypass the soft start altogether, and use
a hard switch on the unit. Some of the convenience takes a hike, but
it makes it a working unit again. Must fully power down (unplug) to
save juice in the interim times though.

Now I just knew that if only we could all be sufficiently patient, you (Dark
Matter) would and could rise to the occasion with a coherent answer
somewhere above the crude monosyllabic responses for which you have become
infamous. Keep up the good work; there may yet be a place for you in the
family homo erectus.

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:32:25 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

Now I just knew that if only we could all be sufficiently patient, you (Dark
Matter) would and could rise to the occasion with a coherent answer
somewhere above the crude monosyllabic responses for which you have become
infamous. Keep up the good work; there may yet be a place for you in the
family homo erectus.

---
What the fuck is it with you two-faced assholes?

The guy does a good thing and instead of just acknowledging it you have
to throw shit into the game with your left-handed compliments and snide
slurs.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:56:48 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

As your posts on this topic are more likely to lead to a moderated newsgroup
than less, I can only thank you for your "closeted" support

---
You're welcome!^)

Regardless of how I post, _this_ newsgroup won't be moderated, and I
could care less what Fortier does with any groups he chooses to start.

--
John Fields

 

[Ross Mac]

If you followed the thread...I wrote the alternative lyrics in your "fine
memory"....Never asked who wrote or performed the music.....And hey, why
don't you hum your little tune while you are flamin the groups!......


"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On 18 Oct 2003 04:23:56 GMT, et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)
Gave us:


Actually, no. Earl Scruggs was on Fresh Air this week, and he was
asked about this. He said something to suggest they had less
to do with the song than is expected, though I was not paying full
attention.

A quick search for the song provides the information that "The Ballad
of Jed Clampett" was written by Paul Henning, both the lyrics and
music. He was of course, the creator of the show.

The booklet that comes with Flatt & Scruggs "The Complete Mercury
Sessions"
CD mentions how they had a "huge country hit with their version of
'The Ballad of Jed Clampett' (which Lester, despite legend, did not
sing on the show's theme)".

So they didn't sing the theme. They didn't write the song, or the
lyrics.
And it's not even clear if their version was used in the show (though,
if I'd been paying attention to the interview, I would have got
the full bit about why they did record the song).

Michael

Then that retarded usenet poster "MacRetard" had to go and befoul
usenet with his baby troll bullshit.

Thanks for the CORRECT trivia.

 

[Baphomet]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:32:25 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Now I just knew that if only we could all be sufficiently patient, you
(Dark
Matter) would and could rise to the occasion with a coherent answer
somewhere above the crude monosyllabic responses for which you have
become
infamous. Keep up the good work; there may yet be a place for you in the
family homo erectus.

---
What the fuck is it with you two-faced assholes?

The guy does a good thing and instead of just acknowledging it you have
to throw shit into the game with your left-handed compliments and snide
slurs.

--
John Fields

As your posts on this topic are more likely to lead to a moderated newsgroup
than less, I can only thank you for your "closeted" support

 

[DarkMatter]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:44:51 GMT, "Ross Mac"
<macroeng@example.invalid> Gave us:

TardMatter has no life, no future and no education...his sole quest in life
is to flame the newsgroups...he claims to be and engineer..but so far...he
is a google poster....Just give him a problem...he will never answer!
Loosen your rubber helmet Tard boy!

You are an idiot, dumbfuck. I am not a google poster. My posts are
not carried by google.

I do post on usenet, which you seem to have no fucking clue about,
even though your retarded, interloping lame ass is here.

 

[Baphomet]

"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:44:51 GMT, "Ross Mac"
macroeng@example.invalid> Gave us:

TardMatter has no life, no future and no education...his sole quest in
life
is to flame the newsgroups...he claims to be and engineer..but so
far...he
is a google poster....Just give him a problem...he will never answer!
Loosen your rubber helmet Tard boy!


You are an idiot, dumbfuck. I am not a google poster. My posts are
not carried by google.

I'm not sure what news server you post to but your posts apparently are
archived on Google.

Google Groups search: DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org

I liked your response to: Looking for repair ideas on a projection TV

I do post on usenet, which you seem to have no fucking clue about,
even though your retarded, interloping lame ass is here.

 

[Keith R. Williams]

In article <vp5d22miap0lb1@corp.supernews.com>,
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net says...

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:32:25 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Now I just knew that if only we could all be sufficiently patient, you
(Dark
Matter) would and could rise to the occasion with a coherent answer
somewhere above the crude monosyllabic responses for which you have
become
infamous. Keep up the good work; there may yet be a place for you in the
family homo erectus.

---
What the fuck is it with you two-faced assholes?

The guy does a good thing and instead of just acknowledging it you have
to throw shit into the game with your left-handed compliments and snide
slurs.

--
John Fields

As your posts on this topic are more likely to lead to a moderated newsgroup
than less, I can only thank you for your "closeted" support

A moderated newsgroup is a difficult thing to set up, at least in
the big-eight hierarchy. *Any* newsgroup depends on a core of
contributors, hopefully experts. That said, I think you've just
offended an individual in both of the above classes. Perhaps
that was your intention, but it doesn't bode well for a moderated
group, at least in the big-eight. I'll certainly vote "no".

--
Keith

 

[Ross Mac]

By Google poster, your assholyness, I mean that you run to Google to get
answers to technical questions. You have no ability to answer from knowledge
or experience.
Just the usual, TardBoy dribble....the 4 or 5 word vocabulary that is from
group to group..you leave a snail trail a mile long ya little parasite!


"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:44:51 GMT, "Ross Mac"
macroeng@example.invalid> Gave us:

TardMatter has no life, no future and no education...his sole quest in
life
is to flame the newsgroups...he claims to be and engineer..but so
far...he
is a google poster....Just give him a problem...he will never answer!
Loosen your rubber helmet Tard boy!


You are an idiot, dumbfuck. I am not a google poster. My posts are
not carried by google.

I do post on usenet, which you seem to have no fucking clue about,
even though your retarded, interloping lame ass is here.

 

[Keith R. Williams]

In article <tqn3pv02p8p6kfkms7dkqmt3b5jq0s6v0s@4ax.com>,
DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org says...

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 11:21:35 -0400, Keith R. Williams
krw@attglobal.net> Gave us:

In article <vdg2pvgfnurkas4124bsc4ecsd8v6j07t9@4ax.com>,
jfields@austininstruments.com says...
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:04:52 -0400, Keith R. Williams
krw@attglobal.net> wrote:

In article <FPJjb.4373$Ec1.381562@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, macroeng@example.invalid says...

He claims he has a degree...

Nope. He *claims* he's an engineer. He may have eluded to
^^^^^^
alluded?

Damned spiel checkers!


Sure.

Sewer!

--
Keith

 

[Terry]

"

Nope. He *claims* he's an engineer. He may have eluded to
^^^^^^
alluded?

Damned spiel checkers!

Very deluding; what he was alluding to has eluded me!

Translation:
Confusing; I missed the point of what he was referring to!

 

[Mjolinor]

"Ross Mac" <macroeng@example.invalid> wrote in message
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By Google poster, your assholyness, I mean that you run to Google to get
answers to technical questions. You have no ability to answer from
knowledge
or experience.
Just the usual, TardBoy dribble....the 4 or 5 word vocabulary that is from
group to group..you leave a snail trail a mile long ya little parasite!

The single most important thing you learn from an education is that you
commit nothing to memory unless there is no other way of having access to
that information. Replying to posts from memory, unless they are problems
you deal with every day, without using the facilities at your disposal shows
(to me) that you are wasting the brain that you have. Better to remember how
to retrieve the information you need rather than remembering the
information, you get a whole lot more into your head that way.

 

[Baphomet]

"Terry" <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F935109.758BA53F@nf.sympatico.ca...

"
Nope. He *claims* he's an engineer. He may have eluded to
^^^^^^
alluded?

Damned spiel checkers!

Very deluding; what he was alluding to has eluded me!
Translation:
Confusing; I missed the point of what he was referring to!

Terry -

The point is that with people like Dark Matter and to a lesser extent
John Fields, there is no point. They have arrested emotional development,
are full of rage, and lash out with gutter language at the slightest
provocation. Even trying to provide them with a modicum of positive
reinforcement for a post well delivered is cause for their lashing out with
yet another infantile tirade. Few (if any) of us on this newsgroup are
qualified to provide them the help that they need. They, and by extension
we, would probably be better off if they visited one of the alt. psychology
newsgroups, or better yet, a live psychiatrist who could provide them with
the appropriate medication(s) and or psychotherapy for which they are so
obviously and desperately in need.

 

[John Fortier]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:49:18 -0700, DarkMatter
DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:


I never said that. I said that what a 100 watt light bulb emits
does not heat walls at a distance, which your lame ass distorted into
some other troll baby bullshit, as usual.

---
In addition to visible light, a 100 watt incandescent lamp emits
infrared radiation which, when absorbed by distant objects, will cause
the objects to become heated.

--
John Fields

As will visible light.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 16:51:32 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> Gave us:

"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:7kt5pvc7j8p145rb0u6ei57786sps7272h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 02:44:51 GMT, "Ross Mac"
macroeng@example.invalid> Gave us:

TardMatter has no life, no future and no education...his sole quest in
life
is to flame the newsgroups...he claims to be and engineer..but so
far...he
is a google poster....Just give him a problem...he will never answer!
Loosen your rubber helmet Tard boy!


You are an idiot, dumbfuck. I am not a google poster. My posts are
not carried by google.

I'm not sure what news server you post to but your posts apparently are
archived on Google.

Google Groups search: DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org

I liked your response to: Looking for repair ideas on a projection TV

You MIGHT find a post or two on a day to day basis for a short time.
Then it too disappears.

Archived though? I don't think so.

Any posts you find with my handle on them are very likely forged
posts.

Are you really *that* slow that you cannot tell how to determine
this, yet you still want to be a net nanny?

Try again, oh clueless one.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 02:29:57 GMT, "Ross Mac"
<macroeng@example.invalid> Gave us:

By Google poster, your assholyness, I mean that you run to Google to get
answers to technical questions.

You're a goddamned retard, boy.

Show me where I searched google for an answer to a question.
You cannot.

You have no ability to answer from knowledge
or experience.

You have no ability to be correct at all. This is a perfect
example.

Just the usual, TardBoy dribble....the 4 or 5 word vocabulary that is from
group to group..you leave a snail trail a mile long ya little parasite!

You're an idiot. A top posting, total usenet retard.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:17:29 +0100, "Mjolinor" <mjolinor@hotmail.com>
Gave us:

The single most important thing you learn from an education is that you
commit nothing to memory unless there is no other way of having access to
that information.

A very proper remark, first made memorably by Albert Einstein.

 

[DarkMatter]

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 03:08:07 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> Gave us:

Terry -

The point is that with people like Dark Matter and to a lesser extent
John Fields, there is no point. They have arrested emotional development,
are full of rage, and lash out with gutter language at the slightest
provocation. Even trying to provide them with a modicum of positive
reinforcement for a post well delivered is cause for their lashing out with
yet another infantile tirade. Few (if any) of us on this newsgroup are
qualified to provide them the help that they need. They, and by extension
we, would probably be better off if they visited one of the alt. psychology
newsgroups, or better yet, a live psychiatrist who could provide them with
the appropriate medication(s) and or psychotherapy for which they are so
obviously and desperately in need.

You are the one that needs to see someone, ya retard. You didn't
give any modicum of positive reinforcement, you lying ass. You came
right in with yet another blapomet retarded insult. Fuck you, retard
boy.