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Winfield Hill
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Grocery shopping.
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John S
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On 4/5/2020 3:15 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
In what way?
In what way?
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Rich S
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 8:16:02 PM UTC, Winfield Hill wrote:
Agreed. "Minimize your exposure" to our dysfunctional society. My wife demanded she take on this role, but afterwards comes home intensely unnerved. People have various reactions to unseen, unfelt enemy, lurking around any other body or thing. Those people who don't take it seriously and act without care (and possibly revel in this) cause intense reaction (at very least) from those at the other end of this practice. Real violence has erupted.
Agreed. "Minimize your exposure" to our dysfunctional society. My wife demanded she take on this role, but afterwards comes home intensely unnerved. People have various reactions to unseen, unfelt enemy, lurking around any other body or thing. Those people who don't take it seriously and act without care (and possibly revel in this) cause intense reaction (at very least) from those at the other end of this practice. Real violence has erupted.
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Rich S
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 9:09:35 PM UTC, John S wrote:
Unfortunately, there've been several reports of fear-induced and racial-based assaults in the NYC area. and elsewhere.
https://abc7ny.com/woman-attacked-blamed-for-covid-19-pandemic-in-bronx/6078498/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-rise-of-coronavirus-hate-crimes
(I didn't know s.e.d. was academic based publishing that requires sources for all assertions
Unfortunately, there've been several reports of fear-induced and racial-based assaults in the NYC area. and elsewhere.
https://abc7ny.com/woman-attacked-blamed-for-covid-19-pandemic-in-bronx/6078498/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-the-uk/the-rise-of-coronavirus-hate-crimes
(I didn't know s.e.d. was academic based publishing that requires sources for all assertions
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John S
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On 4/5/2020 3:26 PM, Rich S wrote:
What violence? Cite?
What violence? Cite?
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Joerg
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On 2020-04-05 13:15, Winfield Hill wrote:
Why? Staring at the empty shelf for toilet paper?
Here in the Wild West grocery shopping is still a normal thing. Well,
except for toilet paper, sugar, flour and similar items that seem to be
permanently out of stock. So we buy more fruit and other stuff now instead.
Of course, we live in El Dorado County, pop around 200,000 but only 22
COVID cases and no deaths. So far.
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Why? Staring at the empty shelf for toilet paper?
Here in the Wild West grocery shopping is still a normal thing. Well,
except for toilet paper, sugar, flour and similar items that seem to be
permanently out of stock. So we buy more fruit and other stuff now instead.
Of course, we live in El Dorado County, pop around 200,000 but only 22
COVID cases and no deaths. So far.
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Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:16:02 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
Only use stores that offer curbside pickup. Order is usually placed with their custom app. Or use one of those shopping services like InstaCart.
You still need to wash down every item in the cart, like so:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps&feature=youtu.be
Only use stores that offer curbside pickup. Order is usually placed with their custom app. Or use one of those shopping services like InstaCart.
You still need to wash down every item in the cart, like so:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjDuwc9KBps&feature=youtu.be
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Ricky C
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:16:02 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
> Grocery shopping.
The stores seem to be taking this a bit more seriously here. Two or three weeks ago when I went there was little sign anything was up other than some empty shelves. Last week the store had an kid (not terribly bright either) wiping the shopping carts in a very cursory manner like he was dusting almost. This week they had a more capable employee who maintained a line of freshly wiped carts so I didn't get to see how well she did it. Doesn't matter, I brought my own cleaner and paper towels. I need to use something to open the refrigerator doors anyway.
I wore my mask and this is the first time I've seen others wearing them as well. Not a lot, but more than one or two. This is a fairly rural area with only a couple of dozen reported infections in the county. I think this time next week most people will be wearing masks... assuming they can get them.
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> Grocery shopping.
The stores seem to be taking this a bit more seriously here. Two or three weeks ago when I went there was little sign anything was up other than some empty shelves. Last week the store had an kid (not terribly bright either) wiping the shopping carts in a very cursory manner like he was dusting almost. This week they had a more capable employee who maintained a line of freshly wiped carts so I didn't get to see how well she did it. Doesn't matter, I brought my own cleaner and paper towels. I need to use something to open the refrigerator doors anyway.
I wore my mask and this is the first time I've seen others wearing them as well. Not a lot, but more than one or two. This is a fairly rural area with only a couple of dozen reported infections in the county. I think this time next week most people will be wearing masks... assuming they can get them.
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mpm
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 5:52:06 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
Could be worse...
Instead of just being out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer, they could be out of grapes, padlocks and spackle. (There a vague memory of a joke in there somewhere...)
On 2020-04-05 13:15, Winfield Hill wrote:
Grocery shopping.
Why? Staring at the empty shelf for toilet paper?
Here in the Wild West grocery shopping is still a normal thing. Well,
except for toilet paper, sugar, flour and similar items that seem to be
permanently out of stock. So we buy more fruit and other stuff now instead.
Could be worse...
Instead of just being out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer, they could be out of grapes, padlocks and spackle. (There a vague memory of a joke in there somewhere...)
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 4:16:02 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:
That's why socialism scares me. And pointless bailouts. And
massive borrowing.
They all pave a short road to empty shelves and bad places.
Cheers,
James Arthur
That's why socialism scares me. And pointless bailouts. And
massive borrowing.
They all pave a short road to empty shelves and bad places.
Cheers,
James Arthur
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Ricky C
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
I think this guy gets a fail. I have not heard that such a cursory wipe with a paper towel wetted with cleaner will disinfect this virus. We are told to wash our hands for 20 seconds, so why does a quick wipe give a pass to groceries?
Notice that when he starts loading the shopping bag he also gives his hands a very cursory wipe. Nope, that's the sort of cleaning they do to the shopping carts in the stores.
The guy has the right idea of clean/not clean separation, but the cleaning procedures are not adequate.
That said, when I shopped yesterday I didn't clean any of my items. But then most of them were not touched again for over 24 hours. Not sure what to do about fresh items. I guess apply the 24 hour rule.
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I think this guy gets a fail. I have not heard that such a cursory wipe with a paper towel wetted with cleaner will disinfect this virus. We are told to wash our hands for 20 seconds, so why does a quick wipe give a pass to groceries?
Notice that when he starts loading the shopping bag he also gives his hands a very cursory wipe. Nope, that's the sort of cleaning they do to the shopping carts in the stores.
The guy has the right idea of clean/not clean separation, but the cleaning procedures are not adequate.
That said, when I shopped yesterday I didn't clean any of my items. But then most of them were not touched again for over 24 hours. Not sure what to do about fresh items. I guess apply the 24 hour rule.
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RheillyPhoull
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On 6/04/2020 5:10 am, John S wrote:
Have you never encountered a feral mum on the hunt for toilet paper?
Have you never encountered a feral mum on the hunt for toilet paper?
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Tom Gardner
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On 06/04/20 00:49, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
When did the USA become socialist?
AFAIK the empty shelves and pointless bailouts
occurred in the capitalist USA.
Ergo it must be capitalism that's at fault.
When did the USA become socialist?
AFAIK the empty shelves and pointless bailouts
occurred in the capitalist USA.
Ergo it must be capitalism that's at fault.
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Clifford Heath
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On 6/4/20 8:28 am, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
Not necessarily. You are most unlikely to fall sick after eating food
tainted by corona virus, assuming your basic sanitary habits are ok.
Here is a very good summary of the risks and mitigations from
Australia's experts on this subject:
<https://blog.csiro.au/coronavirus-and-food/>
Clifford Heath.
Not necessarily. You are most unlikely to fall sick after eating food
tainted by corona virus, assuming your basic sanitary habits are ok.
Here is a very good summary of the risks and mitigations from
Australia's experts on this subject:
<https://blog.csiro.au/coronavirus-and-food/>
Clifford Heath.
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On 5 Apr 2020 13:15:39 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Grocery shopping.
Boring. Annoying. But scary?
They closed all the restaurants, so we have to buy more food. And they
are limiting how many people can go into food stores, so there are
long lines of people waiting outside in the cold rain.
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Claude Bernard
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> Grocery shopping.
Boring. Annoying. But scary?
They closed all the restaurants, so we have to buy more food. And they
are limiting how many people can go into food stores, so there are
long lines of people waiting outside in the cold rain.
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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
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On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 16:13:33 -0700 (PDT), mpm <mpmillard@aol.com>
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Garlic. There are no garlic bulbs, but they have peeled garlic in
plastic containers for 10x the usual price.
Oh well, peeling garlic is a pain anyhow.
The regular ice cream is mostly gone, but you can get fancy gelato.
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Claude Bernard
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 5:52:06 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
On 2020-04-05 13:15, Winfield Hill wrote:
Grocery shopping.
Why? Staring at the empty shelf for toilet paper?
Here in the Wild West grocery shopping is still a normal thing. Well,
except for toilet paper, sugar, flour and similar items that seem to be
permanently out of stock. So we buy more fruit and other stuff now instead.
Could be worse...
Instead of just being out of toilet paper and hand sanitizer, they could be out of grapes, padlocks and spackle. (There a vague memory of a joke in there somewhere...)
Garlic. There are no garlic bulbs, but they have peeled garlic in
plastic containers for 10x the usual price.
Oh well, peeling garlic is a pain anyhow.
The regular ice cream is mostly gone, but you can get fancy gelato.
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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
Science teaches us to doubt.
Claude Bernard
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Clifford Heath
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On 6/4/20 11:13 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Bottle shops (liquor stores in the USA) are doing a roaring trade here.
About double normal turnover.
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Bottle shops (liquor stores in the USA) are doing a roaring trade here.
About double normal turnover.
CH
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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The processed stuff doesn't work on the vampires as good as the
freshly peeled cloves do.
news:el0l8f5tdp9ob8js1bjnmqf8pt6f0cgpqd@4ax.com:
The processed stuff doesn't work on the vampires as good as the
freshly peeled cloves do.
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Ricky C
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On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 8:23:23 PM UTC-4, RheillyPhoull wrote:
Send her my way. I've got lots. We'll find out what a feral mom will do for toilet paper.
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Send her my way. I've got lots. We'll find out what a feral mom will do for toilet paper.
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Clifford Heath
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On 6/4/20 11:55 am, Ricky C wrote:
....says the bloke who responds before reading the article.
There's a reason why I usually ignore your posts. It's because your
comprehension is so poor.
For everyone else... wash carefully after going outside, especially when
you go where other people have been and touch things they might have
touched. That's "basic sanitation"... it has nothing to do with food.
....says the bloke who responds before reading the article.
There's a reason why I usually ignore your posts. It's because your
comprehension is so poor.
For everyone else... wash carefully after going outside, especially when
you go where other people have been and touch things they might have
touched. That's "basic sanitation"... it has nothing to do with food.