Tesla is fast...

On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment opportunity won\'t tell
you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried salts have useful
concentrations of that element There\'s lots of those, and the most economic are being
mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade. The metal isn\'t
rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a big premium.
Click to expand...

I quote er.... you, with \"the most economic are being mined now\" - it\'s gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.
 
On Mon, 16 May 2022 16:16:23 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:58:52 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment opportunity won\'t tell
you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried salts have useful
concentrations of that element There\'s lots of those, and the most economic are being
mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade. The metal isn\'t
rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a big premium.
I quote er.... you, with \"the most economic are being mined now\" - it\'s gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.

How can one person be so stupid? When stupidity was being handed out, I think he took the ration of a hundred others.
Click to expand...

Whoosh! So again.... \"the most economic are being mined now\", so what does that make the others..... er.... let me see.... LESS economic.
 
On Mon, 16 May 2022 16:16:23 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:58:52 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment opportunity won\'t tell
you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried salts have useful
concentrations of that element There\'s lots of those, and the most economic are being
mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade. The metal isn\'t
rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a big premium.
I quote er.... you, with \"the most economic are being mined now\" - it\'s gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.

How can one person be so stupid? When stupidity was being handed out, I think he took the ration of a hundred others.
Click to expand...

Go watch people rolling coal on Teslas, it\'s funny as fuck. Keep your toxic highly explosive lithium to yourself.
 
On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...
Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That\'s the talk of an ignoramus.
If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.

No they don\'t - no more than conventional cars need new engines.

...

kw
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My 1986 F150 doesn\'t need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
going to last 36 years?
 
On Mon, 16 May 2022 16:23:01 +0100, Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 1:25:13 AM UTC-4, rbowman wrote:
On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 00:04:22 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...
Then there is the issue that you are only talking about purchase price, not the life cycle cost. That\'s the talk of an ignoramus.
If you want to go that route, electric cars have that annoying habit of needing a new battery.

No they don\'t - no more than conventional cars need new engines.

...

kw

My 1986 F150 doesn\'t need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
going to last 36 years?

Do they need to? I don\'t know many vehicles that last 36 years and when they do, it\'s because they aren\'t driven all that much. The US average is 14,000 miles per year. I you drove the average this vehicle would have 504,000 miles. Not impossible, but very unusual for an ICE.
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When did ICE become \"Internal Combustion Engine\"? When I were a lad, \"ICE\" on a classified ad meant \"In Car Entertainment\", as in the car I\'m selling has a stereo.

Perhaps.... we should just stop using acronyms?

> Trucks tend to be made more robust than cars and get much worse fuel mileage.

A truck is 50 tonnes and I doubt they will ever use batteries.

> So let\'s talk passenger vehicles, which is the real topic of conversation. For a well built BEV,

Is that Beverly? Can you actually speak English?

> there\'s no reason why they can\'t last like an ICE. The batteries in most BEVs are warrantied for 100,000 or more miles. Do you believe they are going to drop out of the car shortly after that?

You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any chemistry is of much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.

And I bet that \"warranty\" only covers the first user.

> Why do so many people just want to drop sound bites rather than actually discussing a topic?

We\'re realists.
 
On 05/21/2022 08:15 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2022 16:16:23 +0100, Ricky
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:58:52 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment
opportunity won\'t tell
you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried
salts have useful
concentrations of that element There\'s lots of those, and the most
economic are being
mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade.
The metal isn\'t
rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a
big premium.
I quote er.... you, with \"the most economic are being mined now\" -
it\'s gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.

How can one person be so stupid? When stupidity was being handed out,
I think he took the ration of a hundred others.

Whoosh! So again.... \"the most economic are being mined now\", so what
does that make the others..... er.... let me see.... LESS economic.
Click to expand...

The question is how less economic.

https://www.lithiumamericas.com/usa/thacker-pass/

They better be careful not to dig up any indigenous remains. There have
already been a number of suits and so forth. Interestingly Miranda Du,
the judge who is shooting down most of the attempts, is an Obama appointee.
 
On Sat, 21 May 2022 17:26:37 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 05/21/2022 08:15 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2022 16:16:23 +0100, Ricky
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:58:52 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment
opportunity won\'t tell
you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried
salts have useful
concentrations of that element There\'s lots of those, and the most
economic are being
mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade.
The metal isn\'t
rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a
big premium.
I quote er.... you, with \"the most economic are being mined now\" -
it\'s gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up.

How can one person be so stupid? When stupidity was being handed out,
I think he took the ration of a hundred others.

Whoosh! So again.... \"the most economic are being mined now\", so what
does that make the others..... er.... let me see.... LESS economic.

The question is how less economic.
Click to expand...

The amount of Lithium required to run every single car in the world is enormous. It\'s a rare element. Batteries need to be made of something else. Preferably something that doesn\'t quadruple the cost of the vehicle.

https://www.lithiumamericas.com/usa/thacker-pass/

They better be careful not to dig up any indigenous remains. There have
already been a number of suits and so forth. Interestingly Miranda Du,
the judge who is shooting down most of the attempts, is an Obama appointee.
Click to expand...

Obama Bin Laden? ROFL!
 
lørdag den 21. maj 2022 kl. 19.02.46 UTC+2 skrev Commander Kinsey:
On Sat, 21 May 2022 17:26:37 +0100, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On 05/21/2022 08:15 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2022 16:16:23 +0100, Ricky
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, May 15, 2022 at 9:58:52 PM UTC-4, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:09:18 +0100, whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, May 14, 2022 at 10:26:57 PM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey
wrote:

As Lithium runs out, the prices will skyrocket.

Nonsense, but of course someone selling you an investment
opportunity won\'t tell
you that.

Lithium is mined from dried-up sea beds, because some of the dried
salts have useful
concentrations of that element There\'s lots of those, and the most
economic are being
mined now, while the next-most-economic will be mined in a decade.
The metal isn\'t
rare, and the price will disappoint investors who buy today at a
big premium.
I quote er.... you, with \"the most economic are being mined now\" -
it\'s gonna get very hard soon to mine it, so the price will shoot up..

How can one person be so stupid? When stupidity was being handed out,
I think he took the ration of a hundred others.

Whoosh! So again.... \"the most economic are being mined now\", so what
does that make the others..... er.... let me see.... LESS economic.

The question is how less economic.
The amount of Lithium required to run every single car in the world is enormous. It\'s a rare element.
Click to expand...

Lithium is not a rare element ....
 
On Mon, 16 May 2022 18:58:30 +0100, ke...@kjwdesigns.com <keith@kjwdesigns.com> wrote:

On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 22:25:13 UTC-7, rbowman wrote:
On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kwdes...com wrote:

My 1986 F150 doesn\'t need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
going to last 36 years?

Probably not - but the great majority of conventional vehicles don\'t last that long either. The average lifetime of cars in the US is about 15 years.
Click to expand...

Then the US must keep on crashing them. In the UK we last 20 years.

A battery wouldn\'t last either of those.
 
On Tue, 17 May 2022 03:55:22 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 05/16/2022 11:58 AM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Sunday, 15 May 2022 at 22:25:13 UTC-7, rbowman wrote:
On 05/15/2022 02:22 PM, ke...@kwdes...com wrote:

My 1986 F150 doesn\'t need a new engine. Do you really think a battery is
going to last 36 years?

Probably not - but the great majority of conventional vehicles don\'t last that long either. The average lifetime of cars in the US is about 15 years.

Accident damage or some major failure (such as engine!) often results in a costly repair that causes it to be scrapped.

My last BMW was a great car until it was about 8 years old when failures started to become annoying and expensive.

kw


My Audi became annoying long before that. Admittedly it was a 100LS and
Volkswagen hadn\'t figured out front engine, front wheel drive, water
cooled vehicles yet.
Click to expand...

I have found nothing but good things to say about Audis. Although they are just VWs with a higher price tag.
 
\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in
news:eek:p.1movwvr7mvhs6z@ryzen.lan:

I have found nothing but good things to say about Audis. Although
they are just VWs with a higher price tag.
Click to expand...

You are an idiot. Though owned by VW, they have their own engine
design engineers and it shows in the higher priced product. So they
are not \"just a VW with a higher price tag.\" you fucking retard.

You are almost as stupid as John Dope is... almost.
 
On Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 13:15:34 UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
...
Probably not - but the great majority of conventional vehicles don\'t last that long either. The average lifetime of cars in the US is about 15 years.

Then the US must keep on crashing them. In the UK we last 20 years.
Click to expand...
....
Not according to this.

\"The average age of a car at scrappage in 2015 reached 13.9 years\"

https://www.smmt.co.uk/industry-topics/sustainability/average-vehicle-age/

kw
 
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:02:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any chemistry is of much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after 80,000 miles. Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand FORTY FOUR MILES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!! Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.
I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to the OBC (On Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick the OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy self charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but pumping energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.
Click to expand...

Sounds like a DIY fire bomb. Suggestion: don\'t park it in your garage while tinkering with it.
 
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 10:08:39 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:48:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2022 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any chemistry is of much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after 80,000 miles. Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand FORTY FOUR MILES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!! Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.

I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to the OBC (On Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick the OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy self charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but pumping energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.
That may be a fun hobby, but it doesn\'t sound like sensible transportation.
40 miles are enough 90% of the time. For long distance, I can stuff extra batteries in. I think i can stuff in 30 to 50 kwhr eventually.

EVs are not for everyone. EV/ICE will have to co-exist.
Click to expand...

As I pointed out, you can\'t depend upon the range to exhaustion. What happens if you only get 39 miles? Pushing that car even one mile would be a good feat for the Strongest Man Contest.
 
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:02:09 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 10:08:39 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:48:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 23 May 2022 21:02:30 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any chemistry is of much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after 80,000 miles. Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand FORTY FOUR MILES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!! Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.

I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to the OBC (On Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick the OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy self charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but pumping energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.
That may be a fun hobby, but it doesn\'t sound like sensible transportation.
40 miles are enough 90% of the time. For long distance, I can stuff extra batteries in. I think i can stuff in 30 to 50 kwhr eventually.

EVs are not for everyone. EV/ICE will have to co-exist.
As I pointed out, you can\'t depend upon the range to exhaustion. What happens if you only get 39 miles? Pushing that car even one mile would be a good feat for the Strongest Man Contest.
Click to expand...

I got towing service, or just to jump charge from another vehicle. Charging from a good 12V source gets 2 to 3 miles per hour.
 
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6b493d73-b77f-4d63-a1b9-3594ebbbebd4n@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:02:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any
chemistry is o
f much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after 80,000
miles.
Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand FORTY
FOUR MIL
ES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!!
Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to
replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.
I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to the
OBC (On
Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick the
OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy self
charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but pumping
energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.

Sounds like a DIY fire bomb. Suggestion: don\'t park it in your
garage while tinkering with it.
Click to expand...

Oh boy! Look at the tinkertards talk about their retarded
decisions on what to tinker with and when and where.

So instead of buying a new battery, you spend $1k on stupid shit to
keep the failing old battery \"working\". I am sure the efficacy and
energy use on that is great. A waning battery takes more juice to
charge and gets you less output.

So your miles per kWh pumped in is significantly less.

Not the most intelligent use of one\'s brain. Still stuck on \"I use
electric, so I have a smaller carbon footprint\". Not if you are
using an outdated waning battery. Your carbon footprint got bigger
while you stood around mentally masturbating as you claimed to be
more environmentally friendly.

Take an EE course. Better to spend $1k or more on learning the most
basic power in, power out rules. Maybe learn where losses occur.

Just as bad a drill motor guy using a unit so old that he is on
NiCad battery packs which give the drill minutes of use after hours
of charging.

Not very bright logic there either. Modern battery operated power
tools are quite inexpensive compared to those of yesteryear and even
line powered devices. Pitch out the old and upgrade to the new.

A $100 cordless Dremel tool has a huge amount of technology
incorporated into them. In the NiCad years, they did not even bother
getting in that market.
 
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 11:44:12 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6b493d73-b77f-4d63...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:02:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any
chemistry is o
f much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after 80,000
miles.
Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand FORTY
FOUR MIL
ES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!!
Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to
replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.
I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to the
OBC (On
Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick the
OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy self
charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but pumping
energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.

Sounds like a DIY fire bomb. Suggestion: don\'t park it in your
garage while tinkering with it.

Oh boy! Look at the tinkertards talk about their retarded
decisions on what to tinker with and when and where.

So instead of buying a new battery, you spend $1k on stupid shit to
keep the failing old battery \"working\". I am sure the efficacy and
energy use on that is great. A waning battery takes more juice to
charge and gets you less output.
Click to expand...

Wrong. It takes the same amount of energy to charge and gets the same amount of output. Waning battery just hold less energy, but exactly same amount going in and out.
 
Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in
news:87d06285-f583-42b1-b74b-aa016c054fe2n@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 11:44:12 PM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6b493d73-b77f-4d63...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:02:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any
chemistry is o
f much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after
80,000 miles.
Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand
FORTY FOUR MIL
ES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!!
Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to
replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.
I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to
the OBC (On
Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick
the OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy
self charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but
pumping energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.

Sounds like a DIY fire bomb. Suggestion: don\'t park it in your
garage while tinkering with it.

Oh boy! Look at the tinkertards talk about their retarded
decisions on what to tinker with and when and where.

So instead of buying a new battery, you spend $1k on stupid shit
to keep the failing old battery \"working\". I am sure the efficacy
and energy use on that is great. A waning battery takes more
juice to charge and gets you less output.

Wrong. It takes the same amount of energy to charge and gets the
same amount of output. Waning battery just hold less energy, but
exactly same amount going in and out.
Click to expand...

This from a dope that just admitted battery degradation at the same
time he denies it.

You ain\'t real bright, child.
 
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:34:57 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:87d06285-f583-42b1...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 11:44:12 PM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6b493d73-b77f-4d63...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:02:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any
chemistry is o
f much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after
80,000 miles.
Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand
FORTY FOUR MIL
ES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!!
Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to
replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.
I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to
the OBC (On
Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick
the OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy
self charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but
pumping energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.

Sounds like a DIY fire bomb. Suggestion: don\'t park it in your
garage while tinkering with it.

Oh boy! Look at the tinkertards talk about their retarded
decisions on what to tinker with and when and where.

So instead of buying a new battery, you spend $1k on stupid shit
to keep the failing old battery \"working\". I am sure the efficacy
and energy use on that is great. A waning battery takes more
juice to charge and gets you less output.

Wrong. It takes the same amount of energy to charge and gets the
same amount of output. Waning battery just hold less energy, but
exactly same amount going in and out.

This from a dope that just admitted battery degradation at the same
time he denies it.
Click to expand...

You have reading and learning disabilities. I said that the 24kwh main traction battery is degraded to 60%, which is same as a new 15kwh. They require the same amount of energy to charge and can discharge the same. Adding 10kwh auxiliary traction battery in parallel with the main will restore it to spec, except with the additional weight (750 pounds) and volume (5 cu.ft.). However, the ECU will not recognize beyond 24kwh and additional storage should be pumped in via OBC.
 
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 5:39:10 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 2:34:57 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
news:87d06285-f583-42b1...@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 11:44:12 PM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:6b493d73-b77f-4d63...@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 9:02:35 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
On Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:30:22 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
You won\'t get that from a battery. No battery of any
chemistry is o
f much use after 5 years, used a lot or not.
My 10 years old Leaf battery is still 60% usable after
80,000 miles.
Mine is outside the \"no battery\" range.
WOW! That means your range to total discharge is a grand
FORTY FOUR MIL
ES (which you don\'t dare use, so 30 miles is more realistic)!!
Your trips will have to be within a 15 mile radius. The cost to
replace the battery is roughly $5k, more than the car is worth.
I have another 10kwh battery siting in the car, connected to
the OBC (On
Board Charger) output. Still trying to figure out how to trick
the OBC to enable the output. Look like i need to build a dummy
self charger, which is charging from the vehicle battery, but
pumping energy from the auxiliary battery.

I have spend around $1k for parts so far.

Sounds like a DIY fire bomb. Suggestion: don\'t park it in your
garage while tinkering with it.

Oh boy! Look at the tinkertards talk about their retarded
decisions on what to tinker with and when and where.

So instead of buying a new battery, you spend $1k on stupid shit
to keep the failing old battery \"working\". I am sure the efficacy
and energy use on that is great. A waning battery takes more
juice to charge and gets you less output.

Wrong. It takes the same amount of energy to charge and gets the
same amount of output. Waning battery just hold less energy, but
exactly same amount going in and out.

This from a dope that just admitted battery degradation at the same
time he denies it.
You have reading and learning disabilities.
Click to expand...
You have to write in language he understand. DecadentLinux is simply an ignorant stupid jerk, FFF and CCC.
 
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