SA Greenies

[felix]

On Tuesday, 21 Feb 2017 10:19 AM, Petzl wrote:

On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:59:12 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote:
On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote:
On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about birds (I
bet
you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill 10,000
times
more birds than wind turbines do.

So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's cats
off
to the pound when I catch them.
what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you also run
elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow?
**Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any cats I
find on my property.
I didn't know that
**Yep:

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf



Page 23.
One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act, you are
also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a right
to kill cats on your property, viz...

Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW]
Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats

(3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some competent
person enters any
inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection Act
1901 and
approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of the land
or any
person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy the cat
if he or she
reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause injury to
any of those
animals.

(4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or harassing an
animal (other than
vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in section 30 (1)
(b)) can
lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably
practicable way of
protecting the animal.

(5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section that
results in the injury
to or death of a cat must:
(a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives any
necessary
treatment, and
(b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person is an
authorised
officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the authorised
officer
may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its owner
or taken
to a council pound, and
(c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat.

(6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this section
for the purpose of
causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised
officer is satisfied
that the owner of the cat cannot be identified.

(7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the

(8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat extends
only to authorising
the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die quickly and
without
unnecessary suffering.
..................................................

firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed land as
prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the cat
has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply with
the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that
contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979.

do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it constitute
'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure any
cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you would be
subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals
legislation
**You are correct. However, the local animal control officer provided
me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I don't
kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound.


what right do you have to trap them?
He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his
property,
did he say that he was?

Yes!
Tuna or Salmon meaning a cat will really try to get it.

yes, what they love most

Without it no cat would go near his property

needs his arse sued off by a lawyer.

--
"Women and cats will do as they please, and men
and dogs should relax and get used to the idea"

 

[Petzl]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:52:31 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

Yes he did,on the 18/02
There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in his
yard, it's not there with his approval. No owner of a wandering cat
should complain if the cat enters a baited trap. In suburbia, no-one
who does not own a cat should be subject to the incursions of someone
else's pet on a regular basis.

Entrapment his nieghbourhood cats would not ever enter his property if
he didn't lay food out for them!
Like you he's a vicious nutter at war with his neighbours
He has never had a cat problem it is just in his mind.

I tend to agree. he described then as 'filthy' animals, whereas in fact
cats are one the the cleanest pets you can own. they bury their
defecations and are constantly preening themselves

The links I provided and Clever Trevor snips
Show he has killed more native birds than any old age pensioners
comfort cat has!
Cats are actually beneficial to Native birds by removing rodents.
--
Petzl
(Joel 2:3)
Fire devours before them,
and behind them a flame burns.
The land is like the garden of Eden before them,
but behind them a desolate wilderness,
and nothing escapes them.

 

[de chucka]

On 22/02/2017 10:26 AM, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:29:57 +1100, Fran Snortilus
nuts@loathsomeneedshelp.com> wrote:

Yes he did,on the 18/02

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does not
want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard. If it's owners were responsible and didn't let their cat
wander, then it would still smell lots of delicious things but from it's
OWN owner's yard.

Clevor Trevor is applying these actions in high density suburbia (City
of Sydney), not wop wop!
This is attacking domestic de-sexed companion cats1!

No he isn't he is making sure the comfort cat is returned to it's
irresponsible owner who lets kitty wander where it could be hit by a car

 

[de chucka]

On 22/02/2017 10:55 AM, felix wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 9:29 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/02/2017 12:58 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 21/02/2017 1:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote:
On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote:
On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about
birds (I
bet
you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill
10,000
times
more birds than wind turbines do.

So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my
neighbour's
cats
off
to the pound when I catch them.
what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you
also run
elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow?
**Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any
cats I
find on my property.
I didn't know that
**Yep:

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf








Page 23.
One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the
act, you
are
also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a
right
to kill cats on your property, viz...

Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW]
Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats

(3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some
competent
person enters any
inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands
Protection
Act
1901 and
approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier
of the
land
or any
person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy
the cat
if he or she
reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause
injury to
any of those
animals.

(4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or
harassing an
animal (other than
vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in
section 30
(1)
(b)) can
lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other
reasonably
practicable way of
protecting the animal.

(5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section
that
results in the injury
to or death of a cat must:
(a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives
any
necessary
treatment, and
(b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person
is an
authorised
officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the
authorised
officer
may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its
owner
or taken
to a council pound, and
(c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat.

(6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this
section
for the purpose of
causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the
authorised
officer is satisfied
that the owner of the cat cannot be identified.

(7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the

(8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat
extends
only to authorising
the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die
quickly and
without
unnecessary suffering.
..................................................

firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed
land as
prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly
the
cat
has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply
with
the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done
that
contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979.

do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it
constitute
'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or
injure
any
cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you
would be
subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals
legislation
**You are correct. However, the local animal control officer
provided
me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I
don't
kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound.


what right do you have to trap them?
He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter
his
property,

did he say that he was?



Yes he did,on the 18/02

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does
not want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard.

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

 

[de chucka]

On 22/02/2017 10:52 AM, felix wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 12:58 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 21/02/2017 1:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote:
On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote:
On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about
birds (I
bet
you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill
10,000
times
more birds than wind turbines do.

So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's
cats
off
to the pound when I catch them.
what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you
also run
elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow?
**Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any
cats I
find on my property.
I didn't know that
**Yep:

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf







Page 23.
One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act,
you
are
also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a
right
to kill cats on your property, viz...

Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW]
Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats

(3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some
competent
person enters any
inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection
Act
1901 and
approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of
the
land
or any
person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy
the cat
if he or she
reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause
injury to
any of those
animals.

(4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or
harassing an
animal (other than
vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in
section 30
(1)
(b)) can
lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably
practicable way of
protecting the animal.

(5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section
that
results in the injury
to or death of a cat must:
(a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat
receives any
necessary
treatment, and
(b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person
is an
authorised
officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the
authorised
officer
may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its
owner
or taken
to a council pound, and
(c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat.

(6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this
section
for the purpose of
causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised
officer is satisfied
that the owner of the cat cannot be identified.

(7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the

(8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat
extends
only to authorising
the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die
quickly and
without
unnecessary suffering.
..................................................

firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed
land as
prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the
cat
has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply
with
the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that
contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979.

do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it
constitute
'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure
any
cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you
would be
subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals
legislation
**You are correct. However, the local animal control officer
provided
me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I
don't
kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound.


what right do you have to trap them?
He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his
property,

did he say that he was?



Yes he did,on the 18/02

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

indeed

If the cat had responsible owners it wouldn't have a chance to smell it

 

[felix]

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 11:45 AM, de chucka wrote:

On 22/02/2017 10:55 AM, felix wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 9:29 AM, Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 22/02/2017 12:58 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 21/02/2017 1:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix
felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote:
On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote:
On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about
birds (I
bet
you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill
10,000
times
more birds than wind turbines do.

So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my
neighbour's
cats
off
to the pound when I catch them.
what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you
also run
elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow?
**Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any
cats I
find on my property.
I didn't know that
**Yep:

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf









Page 23.
One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the
act, you
are
also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart
blanche' a
right
to kill cats on your property, viz...

Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW]
Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats

(3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some
competent
person enters any
inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands
Protection
Act
1901 and
approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier
of the
land
or any
person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or
destroy
the cat
if he or she
reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause
injury to
any of those
animals.

(4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or
harassing an
animal (other than
vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in
section 30
(1)
(b)) can
lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other
reasonably
practicable way of
protecting the animal.

(5) A person who takes action under the authority of this
section
that
results in the injury
to or death of a cat must:
(a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat
receives
any
necessary
treatment, and
(b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the
person
is an
authorised
officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the
authorised
officer
may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned
to its
owner
or taken
to a council pound, and
(c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat.

(6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this
section
for the purpose of
causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the
authorised
officer is satisfied
that the owner of the cat cannot be identified.

(7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the

(8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat
extends
only to authorising
the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die
quickly and
without
unnecessary suffering.
..................................................

firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed
land as
prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly
the
cat
has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to
comply
with
the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done
that
contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979.

do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it
constitute
'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or
injure
any
cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you
would be
subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals
legislation
**You are correct. However, the local animal control officer
provided
me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I
don't
kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound.


what right do you have to trap them?
He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter
his
property,

did he say that he was?



Yes he did,on the 18/02

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's
trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in
his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does
not want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard.

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite. and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

http://tinyurl.com/trev-w


--
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
http://www.siotw.org

 

[de chucka]

snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local council,
vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire service.
Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

 

[Petzl]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:07:42 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's
trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in
his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does
not want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard.

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite. and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

http://tinyurl.com/trev-w'

Trevor is inviting them over by laying treats as bait.
Without these trap "baits" domestic comfort pets (Cats or Kittens)
would not go over to his rat infested nest.
(Georges river where scientists have logged a BIG increase in black
rats).

Again we are talking about Metro Sydney not the very back of Woop-Woop
where Fran and deadfucker live
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woop_Woop

For a lot of these people it is not cheap to buy a moggy
http://www.petmd.com/cat/pet_lover/MM_moggy_cats
you can buy mogy's here
Deadfucker and Fran with there rodent problem need one also.
https://www.petrescue.com.au/listings/cats
--
The Black Rat climbs
trees and eats small birds or eggs out of their
nests, as well as fruit and vegetables.
They often cause damage by gnawing pipes,
telephone cords and hoses. They are unhygienic
and the carrier of disease. This Rat can have up
to 60 young in a year and at three months, are
sexually mature.
The Black Rat is commonly sighted in the
Rockdale area by day or night. Common
sightings are around most of our waterways and
beach areas. This is the rat seen by most people.
Most people wrongly call them Water Rats;
nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[de chucka]

On 22/02/2017 2:17 PM, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:07:42 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's
trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in
his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does
not want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard.

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite. and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

http://tinyurl.com/trev-w'

Trevor is inviting them over by laying treats as bait.
Without these trap "baits" domestic comfort pets (Cats or Kittens)
would not go over to his rat infested nest.
Obviously they would because you claim cats are a control on rats

 

[felix]

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:

snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets


--
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
http://www.siotw.org

 

[felix]

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 2:17 PM, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:07:42 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's
trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in
his
yard, it's not there with his approval.

NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from
You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does
not want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard.
then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it
He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them
cite. and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

http://tinyurl.com/trev-w'
Trevor is inviting them over by laying treats as bait.
Without these trap "baits" domestic comfort pets (Cats or Kittens)
would not go over to his rat infested nest.
(Georges river where scientists have logged a BIG increase in black
rats).

Again we are talking about Metro Sydney not the very back of Woop-Woop
where Fran and deadfucker live
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woop_Woop

For a lot of these people it is not cheap to buy a moggy

it's not cheap to own them either.. food, worm and flea tablets,
microchiping, registration, etc.,.. and especially vet bills if they get
sick or injured. puss has hyperthyroidism and has to have a pill morning
and night for life

http://www.petmd.com/cat/pet_lover/MM_moggy_cats
you can buy mogy's here
Deadfucker and Fran with there rodent problem need one also.
https://www.petrescue.com.au/listings/cats

mine was a rescue cat

--
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
http://www.siotw.org

 

[de chucka]

On 22/02/2017 2:55 PM, felix wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

If you're in Parramatta you can hire a cat trap so t is legal in NSWs,
if you're interested you can check other states
https://www.cityofparramatta.nsw.gov.au/living-and-community/pets/animal-responsibility/cats

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets

I don't know if they are pets or feral but they are pests

 

[Petzl]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:08 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid>
wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

For rouge dogs provably, I have seen masses of sheep taken out by
family pet dogs (they get together and form packs)

My Dad had zero problem in shooting dogs on his farm.
Never did nothing but feed his farm cats.

Nothing worse than dead rats in rain tank, bird shit bad enough.

Doubt if it applies to pet moggy's, birds, goldfish.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets

He a lying wog, claims to of been in the Australian Armies London
branch!
--
Petzl

The Black Rat climbs trees and eats small birds or eggs out of their nests, as well as fruit and vegetables.

They often cause damage by gnawing pipes, telephone cords and hoses.

They are unhygienic and the carrier of disease.

This Rat can have up to 60 young in a year and at three months, are sexually mature.

The Black Rat is commonly sighted in the Rockdale area by day or night.

Common sightings are around most of our waterways and beach areas.

This is the rat seen by most people.

Most people wrongly call them Water Rats;
nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[Xeno]

On 22/02/2017 5:34 PM, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:08 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

For rouge dogs provably, I have seen masses of sheep taken out by
family pet dogs (they get together and form packs)

My Dad had zero problem in shooting dogs on his farm.
Never did nothing but feed his farm cats.

With *dog meat*???

Nothing worse than dead rats in rain tank, bird shit bad enough.

You should have a mesh filter so rats and any other animal life simply
cannot get in.

Doubt if it applies to pet moggy's, birds, goldfish.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets

He a lying wog, claims to of been in the Australian Armies London
branch!

--

Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

 

[Petzl]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 17:47:40 +1100, Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
wrote:

On 22/02/2017 5:34 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:08 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

For rouge dogs provably, I have seen masses of sheep taken out by
family pet dogs (they get together and form packs)

My Dad had zero problem in shooting dogs on his farm.
Never did nothing but feed his farm cats.

With *dog meat*???

A bullet, and usually alerted by neighbours that dog were ripping his
sheep's throats out!

Nothing worse than dead rats in rain tank, bird shit bad enough.

You should have a mesh filter so rats and any other animal life simply
cannot get in.

Not happened to us but common with neighbours, they then learnt the
value of a cat.

Rain tanks are victims of the weather everyone uses a mesh but they
are known to fail.

Doubt if it applies to pet moggy's, birds, goldfish.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets

He a lying wog, claims to of been in the Australian Armies London
branch!

--
Petzl

The Black Rat climbs trees and eats small birds or eggs out of their nests, as well as fruit and vegetables.

They often cause damage by gnawing pipes, telephone cords and hoses.

They are unhygienic and the carrier of disease.

This Rat can have up to 60 young in a year and at three months, are sexually mature.

The Black Rat is commonly sighted in the Rockdale area by day or night.

Common sightings are around most of our waterways and beach areas.

This is the rat seen by most people.

Most people wrongly call them Water Rats;
nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[felix]

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 5:34 PM, Petzl wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:08 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it
He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them
cite.
http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.
South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

For rouge dogs provably, I have seen masses of sheep taken out by
family pet dogs (they get together and form packs)

My Dad had zero problem in shooting dogs on his farm.
Never did nothing but feed his farm cats.

his claims about the damage they cause are greatly exaggerated

Nothing worse than dead rats in rain tank, bird shit bad enough.

we had friends who lived in the bush, and when we visited we always
remarked how nice the water from the rainwater tank tasted. then one
time they had to empty and replace the tank because it was rusting out.
there were rotting bird carcasses inside, lol! I think they boiled the
water tho. don't remember tho.

Doubt if it applies to pet moggy's, birds, goldfish.

I can't see why councils would approve of trapping cats just because
they are on your property.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property
so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets
He a lying wog,

Is he a wog?

claims to of been in the Australian Armies London
branch!

in the UK military I think working for Australian Army


--
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
http://www.siotw.org

 

[felix]

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 5:47 PM, Xeno wrote:

On 22/02/2017 5:34 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:08 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to
trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

For rouge dogs provably, I have seen masses of sheep taken out by
family pet dogs (they get together and form packs)

My Dad had zero problem in shooting dogs on his farm.
Never did nothing but feed his farm cats.

With *dog meat*???

LOL!

Nothing worse than dead rats in rain tank, bird shit bad enough.

You should have a mesh filter so rats and any other animal life simply
cannot get in.

Doubt if it applies to pet moggy's, birds, goldfish.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets

He a lying wog, claims to of been in the Australian Armies London
branch!

--
http://thereligionofpeace.com
http://www.barenakedislam.com/
http://www.siotw.org

 

[Xeno]

On 22/02/2017 6:56 PM, felix wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 5:47 PM, Xeno wrote:
On 22/02/2017 5:34 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:55:08 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 1:39 PM, de chucka wrote:
snip

then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to
trap it

He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them

cite.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/cats
Property owners are legally permitted to trap cats which trespass on
their properties, and deliver unidentified cats to their local
council, vet or animal shelter. Many councils offer a cat trap hire
service. Un-Invited Cats fact sheet.

South Australian legislation. what evidence is there that that is the
case in all States and Territories?

For rouge dogs provably, I have seen masses of sheep taken out by
family pet dogs (they get together and form packs)

My Dad had zero problem in shooting dogs on his farm.
Never did nothing but feed his farm cats.

With *dog meat*???

LOL!

At least *somebody* twigged! ;-)

Nothing worse than dead rats in rain tank, bird shit bad enough.

You should have a mesh filter so rats and any other animal life simply
cannot get in.

Doubt if it applies to pet moggy's, birds, goldfish.

and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

Why not? it is what I do with pest animals on my property

so you admit you willingly kill peoples pets

He a lying wog, claims to of been in the Australian Armies London
branch!

--

Xeno

First they ignore you,
Then they ridicule you,
Then they fight you,
Then you win.

Mahatma Ghandi

 

[F Murtz]

Fran Snortilus wrote:

On 22/02/2017 12:58 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Fran Snortilus wrote:
On 21/02/2017 1:46 AM, F Murtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 7:53 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:43:15 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 11:29 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 20/02/2017 11:28 AM, felix wrote:
On Monday, 20 Feb 2017 9:27 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 19/02/2017 12:06 PM, felix wrote:
On Sunday, 19 Feb 2017 10:20 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 18/02/2017 9:17 PM, felix wrote:
On Friday, 17 Feb 2017 7:36 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

In any case, if you are REALLY so fucking concerned about
birds (I
bet
you're not), then you should be killing cats. Cats kill
10,000
times
more birds than wind turbines do.

So, what will you do? Kill a cat today? I send my neighbour's
cats
off
to the pound when I catch them.
what a prick you are! it's not illegal to own a cat. do you
also run
elderly drivers off the road coz they're too slow?
**Thanks to NSW state law, I am entitled to exterminate any
cats I
find on my property.
I didn't know that
**Yep:

http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/inforce/8444158c-3268-4730-ab8e-eaf50faf4bc2/1998-87.pdf








Page 23.
One would assume that since you are capable of quoting the act,
you
are
also capable of reading it. It does NOT give you 'cart blanche' a
right
to kill cats on your property, viz...

Companion Animals Act 1998 No 87 [NSW]
Part 4 Responsibilities for control of cats

(3) If a cat that is not under the effective control of some
competent
person enters any
inclosed lands within the meaning of the Inclosed Lands Protection
Act
1901 and
approaches any animal being farmed on the land, the occupier of
the
land
or any
person authorised by the occupier can lawfully injure or destroy
the cat
if he or she
reasonably believes that the cat will molest, attack or cause
injury to
any of those
animals.

(4) An authorised officer who finds a cat attacking or
harassing an
animal (other than
vermin) within a wildlife protection area (as defined in
section 30
(1)
(b)) can
lawfully injure or destroy the cat if there is no other reasonably
practicable way of
protecting the animal.

(5) A person who takes action under the authority of this section
that
results in the injury
to or death of a cat must:
(a) take reasonable steps to ensure that an injured cat receives
any
necessary
treatment, and
(b) report the matter to an authorised officer (unless the person
is an
authorised
officer) and comply with such reasonable directions as the
authorised
officer
may give for the purpose of causing the cat to be returned to its
owner
or taken
to a council pound, and
(c) take reasonable steps to inform the owner of the cat.

(6) An authorised officer is not to give a direction under this
section
for the purpose of
causing a cat to be taken to a council pound unless the authorised
officer is satisfied
that the owner of the cat cannot be identified.

(7) Nothing in this section authorises a contravention of the

(8) The authority conferred by this section to destroy a cat
extends
only to authorising
the destruction of the cat in a manner that causes it to die
quickly and
without
unnecessary suffering.
..................................................

firstly the property must comply with the meaning of inclosed
land as
prescribed by the Inclosed Lands Protection Act 1901, secondly the
cat
has to be threat to a 'farmed animal', thirdly you need to comply
with
the directions in section (5), and lastly nothing may be done that
contravenes the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979.

do you have any farmed animals on your property? does it
constitute
'inclosed land'? if not, then you have no right to kill or injure
any
cat on your premises. and if you do so, I would suggest you
would be
subject to penalties under the provision of cruelty to animals
legislation
**You are correct. However, the local animal control officer
provided
me sufficient information to deal with all that. Either way, I
don't
kill them. I catch them and send them to the pound.


what right do you have to trap them?
He is also putting out baits to entice his neighbors cat to enter his
property,

did he say that he was?



Yes he did,on the 18/02

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in his
yard, it's not there with his approval.


NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish smell is
coming from

You still don't get it.

You don't get it, the cat may never go into the yard if it were not
being enticed by the fish in the trap.


The cat is in the yard of someone who does not

want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard. If it's owners were responsible and didn't let their cat
wander, then it would still smell lots of delicious things but from it's
OWN owner's yard.

 

[F Murtz]

felix wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 Feb 2017 2:17 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:07:42 +1100, felix <felix@real_felix.invalid
wrote:

There is a difference between "enticing" and "trapping". He's
trapping
and the food is the bait for the trap. He could quite legitimately
claim that he's not doing any "enticing" at all. If the cat is in
his
yard, it's not there with his approval.

NO it is in there trying to find the where the delicious fish
smell is
coming from
You still don't get it. The cat is in the yard of someone who does
not want it there and who has every right to say what is in his own
backyard.
then just shoo it away. it will soon learn. he has no right to trap it
He has every right to trap it just I have every right to shoot them
cite. and you would be just the sort of person who would shoot them

http://tinyurl.com/trev-w'
Trevor is inviting them over by laying treats as bait.
Without these trap "baits" domestic comfort pets (Cats or Kittens)
would not go over to his rat infested nest.
(Georges river where scientists have logged a BIG increase in black
rats).

Again we are talking about Metro Sydney not the very back of Woop-Woop
where Fran and deadfucker live
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woop_Woop

For a lot of these people it is not cheap to buy a moggy

it's not cheap to own them either.. food, worm and flea tablets,
microchiping, registration, etc.,.. and especially vet bills if they get
sick or injured. puss has hyperthyroidism and has to have a pill morning
and night for life

Don't have a cat except next doors but it would be cheap for me, Son is
a Vet.

http://www.petmd.com/cat/pet_lover/MM_moggy_cats
you can buy mogy's here
Deadfucker and Fran with there rodent problem need one also.
https://www.petrescue.com.au/listings/cats

mine was a rescue cat