PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:37:38 +0800, Rheilly Phoull
<rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:

On 16/02/15 4:30 AM, none@all.org wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 23:15:06 +1100, "Bob Milutinovic"
cognicom@gmail.com> wrote:

erinpowell77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On Wednesday, February 19, 2003 at 10:15:32 PM UTC+11, pedro wrote:

snip

Awesome sounding turntable. Underrated. Forgotten.

Much like the twelve-year-old post you replied to?

As always, another google groups user...

Must be quite nice being perfect??

I guess it is. I wouldn't know.

 

On Thursday, February 20, 2003 at 6:04:29 AM UTC+8, D e u t s c h M i c k wrote:

A 'better' pic would be the original advertising pic!
Anyone who remembers the ads at the time will know why

Let me guess: a chick with big boobs in tight denim shorts and an orgasmic smile?

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 11/06/2015 2:21 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

On 11 Jun 2015, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Oh, someone just bought it. Oh well, maybe it was you
(either that or I really pushed the wrong buttons just
then...): http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131112450856
-$214.95 (cheapest same model found on AliExpress = $302.77
inc. post, but might find a better deal with more
searching)

Oh wait, the one I meant in those brackets was a 5A one,
not 3A like CoolCar's:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ATTEN-APS3005S-3D-Digital-
Display-DC-Voltage-Regulators-Power-Supply-Two-Way-30V-5A-
Adjustable-Linear/536802503.html

Can't seem to beat $264.78 for CoolCar's 3A on AliExpress,
but that's a really quick search:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-ATTEN-Upgraded-
APS3003S-3D-High-precision-Dual-Channel-and-Adjustable-Linea
r- Digital-DC-Power/32352791207.html

Teardown/improvement of single 5A version of one of these
ATTEN things. Haven't watched it, just came up in searching
and forgot to put it in the last post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lq1YGAgJ0c

**Thanks for all your efforts. I'll do some investigation over the
weekend. It is unfortunate that there are visibly similar products
available in the US, but not in Australia.

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[Trevor Wilson]

On 14/06/2015 12:13 PM, David wrote:

On 6/12/2015 8:01 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 11/06/2015 2:21 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
On 11 Jun 2015, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Oh, someone just bought it. Oh well, maybe it was you
(either that or I really pushed the wrong buttons just
then...): http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131112450856
-$214.95 (cheapest same model found on AliExpress = $302.77
inc. post, but might find a better deal with more
searching)

Oh wait, the one I meant in those brackets was a 5A one,
not 3A like CoolCar's:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ATTEN-APS3005S-3D-Digital-
Display-DC-Voltage-Regulators-Power-Supply-Two-Way-30V-5A-
Adjustable-Linear/536802503.html

Can't seem to beat $264.78 for CoolCar's 3A on AliExpress,
but that's a really quick search:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-ATTEN-Upgraded-
APS3003S-3D-High-precision-Dual-Channel-and-Adjustable-Linea
r- Digital-DC-Power/32352791207.html

Teardown/improvement of single 5A version of one of these
ATTEN things. Haven't watched it, just came up in searching
and forgot to put it in the last post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lq1YGAgJ0c


**Thanks for all your efforts. I'll do some investigation over the
weekend. It is unfortunate that there are visibly similar products
available in the US, but not in Australia.


Hi,
I have one of these:

http://au.element14.com/tenma/72-10495/power-supply-2ch-30v-5a-adjustable/dp/225194701


I confirm it is linear, and fan cooled. You can hear the relays click
changing the transformer taps as the output voltage changes, and they
are heavy with huge transformer. Look reasonably well made inside.

Series / Parallel works, and the two supplies are joined by relays
internally. Does seem to track, and if you overload one supply, the
other supply voltage drops to match.

Has over current and over voltage limits, which seem to work.

Issues I have are

1) Fans are noisy, and seem to be load related rather than temperature,
and run even at idle. They speed up as soon as you apply a high load,
even if the power supply is cold.

2) The power supply forgets its serial / parallel configuration when you
remove power or turn it off.

3) The power supply always wakes up off if you lose mains / turn it off.
It should remember the last state, but doesn't.

4) We had a faulty display on one channel, but was replaced by E14
without issue.

David

**Thanks for that info. I had assumed it was an SMPS. Good to know
future repairs should be easy enough. If I can't get a 50-0-50 variant,
I'll grab one from Rockby. I can live with the limitations you mentioned.

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[David]

On 6/12/2015 8:01 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 11/06/2015 2:21 PM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
On 11 Jun 2015, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Oh, someone just bought it. Oh well, maybe it was you
(either that or I really pushed the wrong buttons just
then...): http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/131112450856
-$214.95 (cheapest same model found on AliExpress = $302.77
inc. post, but might find a better deal with more
searching)

Oh wait, the one I meant in those brackets was a 5A one,
not 3A like CoolCar's:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/ATTEN-APS3005S-3D-Digital-
Display-DC-Voltage-Regulators-Power-Supply-Two-Way-30V-5A-
Adjustable-Linear/536802503.html

Can't seem to beat $264.78 for CoolCar's 3A on AliExpress,
but that's a really quick search:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-ATTEN-Upgraded-
APS3003S-3D-High-precision-Dual-Channel-and-Adjustable-Linea
r- Digital-DC-Power/32352791207.html

Teardown/improvement of single 5A version of one of these
ATTEN things. Haven't watched it, just came up in searching
and forgot to put it in the last post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lq1YGAgJ0c


**Thanks for all your efforts. I'll do some investigation over the
weekend. It is unfortunate that there are visibly similar products
available in the US, but not in Australia.

Hi,
I have one of these:

http://au.element14.com/tenma/72-10495/power-supply-2ch-30v-5a-adjustable/dp/225194701

I confirm it is linear, and fan cooled. You can hear the relays click
changing the transformer taps as the output voltage changes, and they
are heavy with huge transformer. Look reasonably well made inside.

Series / Parallel works, and the two supplies are joined by relays
internally. Does seem to track, and if you overload one supply, the
other supply voltage drops to match.

Has over current and over voltage limits, which seem to work.

Issues I have are

1) Fans are noisy, and seem to be load related rather than temperature,
and run even at idle. They speed up as soon as you apply a high load,
even if the power supply is cold.

2) The power supply forgets its serial / parallel configuration when you
remove power or turn it off.

3) The power supply always wakes up off if you lose mains / turn it off.
It should remember the last state, but doesn't.

4) We had a faulty display on one channel, but was replaced by E14
without issue.

David

 

[Trevor Wilson]

I bit the bullet and ordered a 30-0-30 power supply from Rockby:

https://www.rockby.com.au/CatresultsSql_12.cfm?select=20&subcode=229&offset=21&stock_no=42344

Yes, I know I should have bought a 50-0-50, but they are almost
impossible to obtain in Australia (at sane prices) and quite difficult
overseas. Anyway, the Rockby one is the same as the one available from
Element14, at a similar price, but is rated at 5 Amps instead of 3 Amps.
A good deal IMO. I’ve had a very brief play with it so far and it is a
bloody ripper. MUCH better than I thought. It:

• Is a linear supply.
• Uses a reasonably substantial EI transformer.
• Has relays to switch different windings on the transformer, as you
change Voltages.
• Has reasonably quiet, demand responsive fans (not temperature sensitive).
• Has a really nifty Voltage and current adjustment system, which is
reasonably quick and accurate. (10mV and 1mA steps)

The downsides:

So far, the noise claims appear to be hopelessly optimistic. I’m
measuring around 20mV p-p (under a 1.7 Amp load @ 15 Volts). I can live
with that.

Only had about 30 minutes with the thing so far, but it looks like a
good deal. Perhaps I can run two of them to obtain my 60-0-60 Volts.
Works out cheaper than buying a dedicated 60-0-60 Volt 5 Amp supply. A
bit cumbersome to adjust, but I think I can live with that.


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[BuckyBalls]

On 18/06/2015 10:34 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

I bit the bullet and ordered a 30-0-30 power supply from Rockby:

https://www.rockby.com.au/CatresultsSql_12.cfm?select=20&subcode=229&offset=21&stock_no=42344


Yes, I know I should have bought a 50-0-50, but they are almost
impossible to obtain in Australia (at sane prices) and quite difficult
overseas. Anyway, the Rockby one is the same as the one available from
Element14, at a similar price, but is rated at 5 Amps instead of 3 Amps.
A good deal IMO. I’ve had a very brief play with it so far and it is a
bloody ripper. MUCH better than I thought. It:

• Is a linear supply.
• Uses a reasonably substantial EI transformer.
• Has relays to switch different windings on the transformer, as you
change Voltages.
• Has reasonably quiet, demand responsive fans (not temperature
sensitive).
• Has a really nifty Voltage and current adjustment system, which is
reasonably quick and accurate. (10mV and 1mA steps)

The downsides:

So far, the noise claims appear to be hopelessly optimistic. I’m
measuring around 20mV p-p (under a 1.7 Amp load @ 15 Volts). I can live
with that.

Only had about 30 minutes with the thing so far, but it looks like a
good deal. Perhaps I can run two of them to obtain my 60-0-60 Volts.
Works out cheaper than buying a dedicated 60-0-60 Volt 5 Amp supply. A
bit cumbersome to adjust, but I think I can live with that.

Looks like a good piece of kit, regardless.
Is it the measured noise wide-spectrum or just ripple that is the minor
problem?
If it's mainly ripple then check the main DC filter cap ratings and do
the basic PS calcs for ripple voltage vs current. You could always add
some extra capacitance to reduce ripple. If it's just random noise you
would already know that it's not worth chasing that last mV.

 

[Phil Allison]

Trevor Wilson wrote:

So far, the noise claims appear to be hopelessly optimistic. I'm
measuring around 20mV p-p (under a 1.7 Amp load @ 15 Volts).

** That is piss poor ripple rejection, about 40dB, assuming the total filter capacitance on the unregulated rail is about 20,00uF.

My home brew 1.2V to 12V variable supply uses an LM338K (TO3)regulator IC, 160VA toroidal and a pair of 10,000uF 40V can electros. Max DC current is 6 amps and output noise & ripple with a 3 amp load is under 1mV p-p.



.... Phil

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 20/06/2015 1:09 AM, BuckyBalls wrote:

On 18/06/2015 10:34 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
I bit the bullet and ordered a 30-0-30 power supply from Rockby:

https://www.rockby.com.au/CatresultsSql_12.cfm?select=20&subcode=229&offset=21&stock_no=42344



Yes, I know I should have bought a 50-0-50, but they are almost
impossible to obtain in Australia (at sane prices) and quite difficult
overseas. Anyway, the Rockby one is the same as the one available from
Element14, at a similar price, but is rated at 5 Amps instead of 3 Amps.
A good deal IMO. I’ve had a very brief play with it so far and it is a
bloody ripper. MUCH better than I thought. It:

• Is a linear supply.
• Uses a reasonably substantial EI transformer.
• Has relays to switch different windings on the transformer, as you
change Voltages.
• Has reasonably quiet, demand responsive fans (not temperature
sensitive).
• Has a really nifty Voltage and current adjustment system, which is
reasonably quick and accurate. (10mV and 1mA steps)

The downsides:

So far, the noise claims appear to be hopelessly optimistic. I’m
measuring around 20mV p-p (under a 1.7 Amp load @ 15 Volts). I can live
with that.

Only had about 30 minutes with the thing so far, but it looks like a
good deal. Perhaps I can run two of them to obtain my 60-0-60 Volts.
Works out cheaper than buying a dedicated 60-0-60 Volt 5 Amp supply. A
bit cumbersome to adjust, but I think I can live with that.

Looks like a good piece of kit, regardless.
Is it the measured noise wide-spectrum or just ripple that is the minor
problem?

**Ripple is extremely low. The noise is wide-band stuff.

If it's mainly ripple then check the main DC filter cap ratings and do
the basic PS calcs for ripple voltage vs current. You could always add
some extra capacitance to reduce ripple. If it's just random noise you
would already know that it's not worth chasing that last mV.

**Yeah, for it's purpose, a bit of noise will not be an issue. Frankly,
the more i use this thing, the more impressed I am with it. Brilliant
value for money. To think I had considered building a replacement for
'Old Faithful' (which failed after 30-odd years).


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[Trevor Wilson]

On 21/06/2015 6:34 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:


So far, the noise claims appear to be hopelessly optimistic. I'm
measuring around 20mV p-p (under a 1.7 Amp load @ 15 Volts).


** That is piss poor ripple rejection, about 40dB, assuming the total
filter capacitance on the unregulated rail is about 20,00uF.

My home brew 1.2V to 12V variable supply uses an LM338K
(TO3)regulator IC, 160VA toroidal and a pair of 10,000uF 40V can
electros. Max DC current is 6 amps and output noise & ripple with a 3
amp load is under 1mV p-p.

**I agree that the noise is too high. Far higher than my old power
supply, but low enough to work for the purpose. For the record:

Main capacitance per supply comprises 3 X 2,200uF/63V.
At 30 Volts and 3.55 Amps under load, there is bugger all ripple.
At the above load, there is bursts, at approximately 2mS duration of a
dirty HF signal of approximately 200kHz. I'll speak to Rockby tomorrow.



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[Trevor Wilson]

On 21/06/2015 7:10 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

Main capacitance per supply comprises 3 X 2,200uF/63V.
At 30 Volts and 3.55 Amps under load, there is bugger all ripple.
At the above load, there is bursts, at approximately 2mS duration of a
dirty HF signal of approximately 200kHz. I'll speak to Rockby tomorrow.

**Oh oh. I just checked my setup. I suspect the power supply is fine. I
have some external interference coming from somewhere. Bugger. And, good
news.


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[Damian]

"SG1" <lost@the.races.com> wrote in message
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"Max" <max@val.morgan> wrote in message
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.
seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.
I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have
noticed that groups I have never been into ever have
died in the arse even more comprehensively than the
ones I have posted to.

Which groups are still doing OK ?

What about alt.fan.rod.speed???? Now is a dead arse group!!!!

Yes, just like the author of the group. Only his avatar bot, which is a
fully automated script keep running long after his death.
RIP(rest in piss) and RINP(rest in no peace) Mr Speed. )

 

[Damian]

"noel" <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in message
news:558e0cfa$1@news.ausics.net...

On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:43:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.

seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed that groups
I have never been into ever have died in the arse even more
comprehensively than the ones I have posted to.

Text groups are dying off a bit

dying at an alarming rate.

coz fuckwits prefer the prettyness of all
that html shit in "forums" - hey why get a 1.8K post when you can get it
in 300K

Volume wise, it has died off big time I reckon.
forums have it's place, where terminal viruses that infect the usenet
newsgroups can't exist.
I think we call it "Rod Speed" factor?!
Html capability is pretty handy on many subjects.
usenet still has it's place without any weirdo mods as in some forums.

Though usenet is hardly dead, its definately nothing like it used to be

*text groups only* (I stopped binaries many years ago back when disks
were not cheap as chips, though the likes of giganews does a roaring
trade so must be a high demand for binaries still - and may increase
again soon with less chance of being fucked up hte arse by george
brandis's hollywood act that will become law in about 2 weeks when the
the Gov'nr accents it)

That is a one stupid retard who talks about a liberal approach to things.
while hiding his fat bald useless conservative rotten arse behind true libs.
True libs in libs got their testicles cut off few years ago.
It will take some time for them to grow it back or to stitch up pair of
balls from a
dead bull kangaroo. Lets hope that happens sooner than later.
Need for a separate conservative and lib party has been hundred years
overdue.

Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire:
Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s K Site
24174 8046 0 32220 0.37 1.12 96851k 23.74%

(99.999% those rejects are dumb arses trying to post binaries through
text groups, the remainder are like how big do you want to grow your cock
or you need a new watch or sunnies etc etc etc)

So 24K text groups a day is pretty average today, but ten years ago we
were doing more than that every *hour*

Yes, those were good old days for the old troll Rod, where he used to
dominate and kick the living shit out everybody while
dodging the shit thrown at him from distance behind a thick firewall, hiding
his fat raggedy arse.

 

[Damian]

"Max" <max@val.morgan> wrote in message
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Max" <max@val.morgan> wrote in message
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cuur83FasdkU1@mid.individual.net...
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.
seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.
I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have
noticed that groups I have never been into ever have
died in the arse even more comprehensively than the
ones I have posted to.

Which groups are still doing OK ?

I'm not going to tell you which ones I use,
the last thing we need is you trolling them.

I'm not a troll.

Correct.

By Speed standards, obviously not. Rod set brand new standards for trolling.
We have to live with it.
Life is not fair.

 

[Damian]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:cuur83FasdkU1@mid.individual.net...

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.
seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

It does.
Look at your raggedy ass, you are running out of activities to pass the
time.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have
noticed that groups I have never been into ever have
died in the arse even more comprehensively than the
ones I have posted to.

There're no groups out there that you've never visited.
You're everwhere and anywhere.
I still blame you for the demise of usenet.
You will dealt with for this heinous crime in the after life world, if not
this world.
Only bummer is that you might getaway with that after life thing, 'cos it
only exists for bummers who beliieve in it.

 

[F Murtz]

Damian wrote:

"noel" <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in message
news:558e0cfa$1@news.ausics.net...
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:43:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.

seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed that groups
I have never been into ever have died in the arse even more
comprehensively than the ones I have posted to.

Text groups are dying off a bit

dying at an alarming rate.

coz fuckwits prefer the prettyness of all
that html shit in "forums" - hey why get a 1.8K post when you can get it
in 300K

Volume wise, it has died off big time I reckon.
forums have it's place, where terminal viruses that infect the usenet
newsgroups can't exist.
I think we call it "Rod Speed" factor?!
Html capability is pretty handy on many subjects.
usenet still has it's place without any weirdo mods as in some forums.



Though usenet is hardly dead, its definately nothing like it used to be

*text groups only* (I stopped binaries many years ago back when disks
were not cheap as chips, though the likes of giganews does a roaring
trade so must be a high demand for binaries still - and may increase
again soon with less chance of being fucked up hte arse by george
brandis's hollywood act that will become law in about 2 weeks when the
the Gov'nr accents it)

That is a one stupid retard who talks about a liberal approach to things.
while hiding his fat bald useless conservative rotten arse behind true libs.
True libs in libs got their testicles cut off few years ago.
It will take some time for them to grow it back or to stitch up pair of
balls from a
dead bull kangaroo. Lets hope that happens sooner than later.
Need for a separate conservative and lib party has been hundred years
overdue.


Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire:
Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s K Site
24174 8046 0 32220 0.37 1.12 96851k 23.74%

(99.999% those rejects are dumb arses trying to post binaries through
text groups, the remainder are like how big do you want to grow your cock
or you need a new watch or sunnies etc etc etc)

So 24K text groups a day is pretty average today, but ten years ago we
were doing more than that every *hour*

Yes, those were good old days for the old troll Rod, where he used to
dominate and kick the living shit out everybody while
dodging the shit thrown at him from distance behind a thick firewall, hiding
his fat raggedy arse.

What a load of crap Hides behind nothing, any one who wants can find out
where he lives , you can not visit many news groups if you think he is a
dimwit,Probably knows much more on electronic and technical subjects
than you. he can be abrasive to fools and dimwits.

I challenge you to enumerate where he has spouted bullshit so we can
dissect it, You wont find many provable mistakes,contrary to popular
opinion.

 

[Damian]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Damian wrote:
"noel" <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:43:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.

seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed that
groups
I have never been into ever have died in the arse even more
comprehensively than the ones I have posted to.

Text groups are dying off a bit

dying at an alarming rate.

coz fuckwits prefer the prettyness of all
that html shit in "forums" - hey why get a 1.8K post when you can get it
in 300K

Volume wise, it has died off big time I reckon.
forums have it's place, where terminal viruses that infect the usenet
newsgroups can't exist.
I think we call it "Rod Speed" factor?!
Html capability is pretty handy on many subjects.
usenet still has it's place without any weirdo mods as in some forums.



Though usenet is hardly dead, its definately nothing like it used to be

*text groups only* (I stopped binaries many years ago back when disks
were not cheap as chips, though the likes of giganews does a roaring
trade so must be a high demand for binaries still - and may increase
again soon with less chance of being fucked up hte arse by george
brandis's hollywood act that will become law in about 2 weeks when the
the Gov'nr accents it)

That is a one stupid retard who talks about a liberal approach to things.
while hiding his fat bald useless conservative rotten arse behind true
libs.
True libs in libs got their testicles cut off few years ago.
It will take some time for them to grow it back or to stitch up pair of
balls from a
dead bull kangaroo. Lets hope that happens sooner than later.
Need for a separate conservative and lib party has been hundred years
overdue.


Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire:
Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s K
Site
24174 8046 0 32220 0.37 1.12 96851k 23.74%

(99.999% those rejects are dumb arses trying to post binaries through
text groups, the remainder are like how big do you want to grow your
cock
or you need a new watch or sunnies etc etc etc)

So 24K text groups a day is pretty average today, but ten years ago we
were doing more than that every *hour*

Yes, those were good old days for the old troll Rod, where he used to
dominate and kick the living shit out everybody while
dodging the shit thrown at him from distance behind a thick firewall,
hiding
his fat raggedy arse.


What a load of crap Hides behind nothing, any one who wants can find out
where he lives

Yeah?
Care to share u genius?
Are you two sharing the same thing?

> , you can not visit many news groups if you think he is a dimwit,

Your words, not mine.

>Probably knows much more on electronic and technical subjects than you.

Irrelevant

> he can be abrasive to fools and dimwits.

So, why isn't he to you?

I challenge you to enumerate where he has spouted bullshit so we can
dissect it,

That's great. Lets disect this post, shall we?!

>You wont find many provable mistakes,contrary to popular opinion.

He is a mistake. His old man used to say that he was around.

 

[F Murtz]

Damian wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5591163c$0$39614$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
Damian wrote:
"noel" <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in message
news:558e0cfa$1@news.ausics.net...
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:43:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.

seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed that
groups
I have never been into ever have died in the arse even more
comprehensively than the ones I have posted to.

Text groups are dying off a bit

dying at an alarming rate.

coz fuckwits prefer the prettyness of all
that html shit in "forums" - hey why get a 1.8K post when you can get it
in 300K

Volume wise, it has died off big time I reckon.
forums have it's place, where terminal viruses that infect the usenet
newsgroups can't exist.
I think we call it "Rod Speed" factor?!
Html capability is pretty handy on many subjects.
usenet still has it's place without any weirdo mods as in some forums.



Though usenet is hardly dead, its definately nothing like it used to be

*text groups only* (I stopped binaries many years ago back when disks
were not cheap as chips, though the likes of giganews does a roaring
trade so must be a high demand for binaries still - and may increase
again soon with less chance of being fucked up hte arse by george
brandis's hollywood act that will become law in about 2 weeks when the
the Gov'nr accents it)

That is a one stupid retard who talks about a liberal approach to things.
while hiding his fat bald useless conservative rotten arse behind true
libs.
True libs in libs got their testicles cut off few years ago.
It will take some time for them to grow it back or to stitch up pair of
balls from a
dead bull kangaroo. Lets hope that happens sooner than later.
Need for a separate conservative and lib party has been hundred years
overdue.


Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire:
Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s K
Site
24174 8046 0 32220 0.37 1.12 96851k 23.74%

(99.999% those rejects are dumb arses trying to post binaries through
text groups, the remainder are like how big do you want to grow your
cock
or you need a new watch or sunnies etc etc etc)

So 24K text groups a day is pretty average today, but ten years ago we
were doing more than that every *hour*

Yes, those were good old days for the old troll Rod, where he used to
dominate and kick the living shit out everybody while
dodging the shit thrown at him from distance behind a thick firewall,
hiding
his fat raggedy arse.


What a load of crap Hides behind nothing, any one who wants can find out
where he lives

Yeah?
Care to share u genius?
Are you two sharing the same thing?

, you can not visit many news groups if you think he is a dimwit,

Your words, not mine.

Probably knows much more on electronic and technical subjects than you.

Irrelevant

he can be abrasive to fools and dimwits.

So, why isn't he to you?


I challenge you to enumerate where he has spouted bullshit so we can
dissect it,

That's great. Lets disect this post, shall we?!

You wont find many provable mistakes,contrary to popular opinion.

He is a mistake. His old man used to say that he was around.



Did not think you would be able.

 

[Damian]

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:559231ab$0$57588$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com...

Damian wrote:
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5591163c$0$39614$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
Damian wrote:
"noel" <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in message
news:558e0cfa$1@news.ausics.net...
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:43:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.

seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed that
groups
I have never been into ever have died in the arse even more
comprehensively than the ones I have posted to.

Text groups are dying off a bit

dying at an alarming rate.

coz fuckwits prefer the prettyness of all
that html shit in "forums" - hey why get a 1.8K post when you can get
it
in 300K

Volume wise, it has died off big time I reckon.
forums have it's place, where terminal viruses that infect the usenet
newsgroups can't exist.
I think we call it "Rod Speed" factor?!
Html capability is pretty handy on many subjects.
usenet still has it's place without any weirdo mods as in some forums.



Though usenet is hardly dead, its definately nothing like it used to
be

*text groups only* (I stopped binaries many years ago back when disks
were not cheap as chips, though the likes of giganews does a roaring
trade so must be a high demand for binaries still - and may increase
again soon with less chance of being fucked up hte arse by george
brandis's hollywood act that will become law in about 2 weeks when the
the Gov'nr accents it)

That is a one stupid retard who talks about a liberal approach to
things.
while hiding his fat bald useless conservative rotten arse behind true
libs.
True libs in libs got their testicles cut off few years ago.
It will take some time for them to grow it back or to stitch up pair of
balls from a
dead bull kangaroo. Lets hope that happens sooner than later.
Need for a separate conservative and lib party has been hundred years
overdue.


Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire:
Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s K
Site
24174 8046 0 32220 0.37 1.12 96851k 23.74%

(99.999% those rejects are dumb arses trying to post binaries through
text groups, the remainder are like how big do you want to grow your
cock
or you need a new watch or sunnies etc etc etc)

So 24K text groups a day is pretty average today, but ten years ago we
were doing more than that every *hour*

Yes, those were good old days for the old troll Rod, where he used to
dominate and kick the living shit out everybody while
dodging the shit thrown at him from distance behind a thick firewall,
hiding
his fat raggedy arse.


What a load of crap Hides behind nothing, any one who wants can find out
where he lives

Yeah?
Care to share u genius?
Are you two sharing the same thing?

, you can not visit many news groups if you think he is a dimwit,

Your words, not mine.

Probably knows much more on electronic and technical subjects than you.

Irrelevant

he can be abrasive to fools and dimwits.

So, why isn't he to you?


I challenge you to enumerate where he has spouted bullshit so we can
dissect it,

That's great. Lets disect this post, shall we?!

You wont find many provable mistakes,contrary to popular opinion.

He is a mistake. His old man used to say that he was around.



Did not think you would be able.

Come again in English?

 

[F Murtz]

Damian wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:559231ab$0$57588$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com...
Damian wrote:
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5591163c$0$39614$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com...
Damian wrote:
"noel" <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in message
news:558e0cfa$1@news.ausics.net...
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:43:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
felix_unger <me@nothere.biz> wrote
.. it would be on life support!

Not all groups are as quiet as this one.

Yes, the groups reserved for medication dependant lunatics are still
doing ok.

More than those are still doing ok.

seems like usenet is on it's last legs

Has been for a long time now.

Makes your existence pretty doomed, doesn't it?

Nope.

I blame you for the demise of usenet.

Even a terminal fuckwit such as yourself should have noticed that
groups
I have never been into ever have died in the arse even more
comprehensively than the ones I have posted to.

Text groups are dying off a bit

dying at an alarming rate.

coz fuckwits prefer the prettyness of all
that html shit in "forums" - hey why get a 1.8K post when you can get
it
in 300K

Volume wise, it has died off big time I reckon.
forums have it's place, where terminal viruses that infect the usenet
newsgroups can't exist.
I think we call it "Rod Speed" factor?!
Html capability is pretty handy on many subjects.
usenet still has it's place without any weirdo mods as in some forums.



Though usenet is hardly dead, its definately nothing like it used to
be

*text groups only* (I stopped binaries many years ago back when disks
were not cheap as chips, though the likes of giganews does a roaring
trade so must be a high demand for binaries still - and may increase
again soon with less chance of being fucked up hte arse by george
brandis's hollywood act that will become law in about 2 weeks when the
the Gov'nr accents it)

That is a one stupid retard who talks about a liberal approach to
things.
while hiding his fat bald useless conservative rotten arse behind true
libs.
True libs in libs got their testicles cut off few years ago.
It will take some time for them to grow it back or to stitch up pair of
balls from a
dead bull kangaroo. Lets hope that happens sooner than later.
Need for a separate conservative and lib party has been hundred years
overdue.


Sites that have sent us articles since the last expire:
Posts Rejects Dup Total Articles/S Kbytes/s K
Site
24174 8046 0 32220 0.37 1.12 96851k 23.74%

(99.999% those rejects are dumb arses trying to post binaries through
text groups, the remainder are like how big do you want to grow your
cock
or you need a new watch or sunnies etc etc etc)

So 24K text groups a day is pretty average today, but ten years ago we
were doing more than that every *hour*

Yes, those were good old days for the old troll Rod, where he used to
dominate and kick the living shit out everybody while
dodging the shit thrown at him from distance behind a thick firewall,
hiding
his fat raggedy arse.


What a load of crap Hides behind nothing, any one who wants can find out
where he lives

Yeah?
Care to share u genius?
Are you two sharing the same thing?

, you can not visit many news groups if you think he is a dimwit,

Your words, not mine.

Probably knows much more on electronic and technical subjects than you.

Irrelevant

he can be abrasive to fools and dimwits.

So, why isn't he to you?


I challenge you to enumerate where he has spouted bullshit so we can
dissect it,

That's great. Lets disect this post, shall we?!

You wont find many provable mistakes,contrary to popular opinion.

He is a mistake. His old man used to say that he was around.



Did not think you would be able.

Come again in English?


Are you dense? able to provide proof of your assertions