PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[John-Melb]

On Feb 13, 4:30 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 10/02/2012 9:14 AM, John-Melb wrote:







On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
On 9/02/2012 11:03 AM, John-Melb wrote:>  On Feb 9, 10:49 am, Tankfixer<paul.carr...@gmail.c00m>    wrote:
In article<4f2fc...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, - keithr ke...@nowhere.com.au
spouted !

I have spent 6 years of my life in the US, I have travelled all over
that country, I was never attacked. I know a lot of Americans, and none
of those have ever been attacked either.

So why do you hold this pathalogical delusional fear of firearms ?

Because Keefy is a dedicated "anti", he doesn't believe you have the
same rights as an anti-gun zealot, because, you own guns.

Seems we are perfectly safe owning them.

OK John show me one post where I have said that guns should be banned,
or even that Australia's gun laws should be tightened.

good luck, you'll need it.

To quote your dear friend "read what I wrote"

I said you're a dedicated anti, and you're the worst kind of anti,
with you, it's not about the guns, it's about the people who own the
guns. you have no problem with an anti-gun zealot posting his anti-gun
and antigun owner bile wherever he wants, but get very upset at the
thought of alternative opinion being posted on the same forum.

You do not believe that rights afforded to everybody else in society,
rights like freedom of speech, rights that you're prepared to
recognise when used by you anti-gun mates, should be afforded to
someone who owns guns.

You view some one who owns a gun a some sort of second class citizen.
Historically, one term for beliefs very similar to your's once, and in
one part of this world, had a name, the term was Untermenschen.

Sorry Keefy, I refuse to be your Untermenschen, and you have real
problems with that.

Give my regards to Dorothy

No John, since you are too thick to have understood in the past, I'll
try once again to get through your thick skull, I am not in the least
afraid of guns, I quite like them, I have nothing against gun owners. I
do though have a particular dislike for arseholes, and you have proved
yourself to be one of those par excellence by shoving your views down
the throats of those who were not in the least interested in hearing
them. If you are happy being an arsehole, so be it, but at least keep it
to yourself.

Let's refresh you memory Keefy.

An anti-gun zealot was posting his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
diatribes in your little corner of Usenet.

No one was telling him his comments were off topic, no one was telling
him to take it elsewhere.

I began to respond to these rants, I immediately came under a barrage
of abuse, I was a queer coward, your favourite anti gun zealot was a
long standing and highly respected poster.

Don't give me your bullshit about changing opinions, you and others on
aus.electronics had you opinions well and truly made up well before I
ever posted there.

An abusive wanker like you tells me I'm an arsehole, and you say that
like it's a bad thing? Havinig a wanker like you tell me I'm an
arsehole obviously means I'm doing something right as a human being.

 

[John-Melb]

On Feb 13, 11:38 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 13/02/2012 5:33 PM, John-Melb wrote:









On Feb 13, 4:30 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
On 10/02/2012 9:14 AM, John-Melb wrote:

On Feb 9, 10:37 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>    wrote:
On 9/02/2012 11:03 AM, John-Melb wrote:>    On Feb 9, 10:49 am, Tankfixer<paul.carr...@gmail.c00m>      wrote:
In article<4f2fc...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, - keithr ke...@nowhere.com..au
spouted !

I have spent 6 years of my life in the US, I have travelled all over
that country, I was never attacked. I know a lot of Americans, and none
of those have ever been attacked either.

So why do you hold this pathalogical delusional fear of firearms ?

Because Keefy is a dedicated "anti", he doesn't believe you have the
same rights as an anti-gun zealot, because, you own guns.

Seems we are perfectly safe owning them.

OK John show me one post where I have said that guns should be banned,
or even that Australia's gun laws should be tightened.

good luck, you'll need it.

To quote your dear friend "read what I wrote"

I said you're a dedicated anti, and you're the worst kind of anti,
with you, it's not about the guns, it's about the people who own the
guns. you have no problem with an anti-gun zealot posting his anti-gun
and antigun owner bile wherever he wants, but get very upset at the
thought of alternative opinion being posted on the same forum.

You do not believe that rights afforded to everybody else in society,
rights like freedom of speech, rights that you're prepared to
recognise when used by you anti-gun mates, should be afforded to
someone who owns guns.

You view some one who owns a gun a some sort of second class citizen.
Historically, one term for beliefs very similar to your's once, and in
one part of this world, had a name, the term was Untermenschen.

Sorry Keefy, I refuse to be your Untermenschen, and you have real
problems with that.

Give my regards to Dorothy

No John, since you are too thick to have understood in the past, I'll
try once again to get through your thick skull, I am not in the least
afraid of guns, I quite like them, I have nothing against gun owners. I
do though have a particular dislike for arseholes, and you have proved
yourself to be one of those par excellence by shoving your views down
the throats of those who were not in the least interested in hearing
them. If you are happy being an arsehole, so be it, but at least keep it
to yourself.

Let's refresh you memory Keefy.

sarcasm> Thank you John, I am getting old, I forget things </sarcasm

An anti-gun zealot was posting his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
diatribes in your little corner of Usenet.

So you felt that you had to shove in your pro-gun diatribe wherever he was.

So, in your opinion I don't have the right to respond, thank you for
proving my point, the case for the defence rests, your honor.

No one was telling him his comments were off topic, no one was telling
him to take it elsewhere.

Nobody cared, nobody listened, can't you get that into your thick skull?

They cared enough to abuse me and my responses, whilst telling me all
about the long standing and highly respected poster.

I began to respond to these rants, I immediately came under a barrage
of abuse, I was a queer coward, your favourite anti gun zealot was a
long standing and highly respected poster.

You have little difficulty handing out the abuse, but you get very
precious if it gets handed back to you, that is hypocrisy of the worst
kind.

I have no problem with giving or receiving abuse when it is deserved,
I have a real problem with prejudice, I was being abused not for what
I had done, but for having an opinion contrary to that held by your
long standing and highly respected poster.

You put out the lie that I was "Anti-gun" (whatever that means) to try
and scrape up support for your arseholery, it seems that that has failed
so now I am supposed to be "Anti-gunowner", really I am just
anti-arsehole, but you can't admit that to yourself because it would
harm your precious ego.

Yes, Trevor claims to not understand what the term "anti-gun" means
too, no surprises there.

Don't give me your bullshit about changing opinions, you and others on
aus.electronics had you opinions well and truly made up well before I
ever posted there.

You could have taken a vote before you barged in, probably 5% in favour
of Wilson's opinion, 5% in favour of yours and 90% couldn't give a shit
either way, now you'd probably have 75% against you. Well done princess,
you really have advanced your cause.

More likely, given the responses I received, 85% in favour of Wilson's
opinion, 15% to frightened to give their own for fear of being
vilified by you long standing and highly respected poster or his
mates.

An abusive wanker like you tells me I'm an arsehole, and you say that
like it's a bad thing? Havinig a wanker like you tell me I'm an
arsehole obviously means I'm doing something right as a human being.

You get called an arsehole because you behave like one and every  time
you do, it becomes less likely that gun owners in Australia will get a
better deal.

Like I said a long time ago, its not the message that is the problem,
the problem is the messenger who is an abusive arsehole.

BTW, being an arsehole means that you are doing nothing right as a human
being.

I'm obviously getting up your nose, after all, you only post here to
"annoy the crap" out of me, therefore I must be doing something right.

 

[John-Melb]

On Feb 13, 11:46 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 13/02/2012 5:20 PM, John-Melb wrote:









On Feb 13, 4:22 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
On 10/02/2012 7:28 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Feb 7, 7:42 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>    wrote:
On 5/02/2012 10:00 AM, John-Melb wrote:

On Feb 2, 9:48 pm, "Spartan613"<nos...@buggeroff.com>      wrote:

Maybe because it actually happens.

Fuck. you're an idiot.

Other posters should realise, when responding to Keefy's posts that
they are dealing with a dedicated "anti"

Other posters should realise, when responding to the princesses's posts
that he doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

Keefy is one of those who's is of the opinion that gun owners
shouldn't have the same rights as anti-gun zealot's like Trevor
Tosspot. Rights like freedom of speech.

Keefy is one of those who's is of the opinion that people like John who
force their unwanted opinions on people with no interest in this sort of
"Discussion" should have the piss taken out of them unmercifully. John
having a rather thin skin gets terribly upset about that. Poor sensitive
little soul.

But, of course this doesn't apply when Trevor Tosspot is the one
giving the unwanted opinions, unless your inferring that the people on
aus.electronics want to hear the rantings of an anti-gun zealot

Here we go again, same shit different day. Nobody was taking any notice
of him until you had to go and stick your opinions in. If you hadn't
started forcing your unwanted opinions there, nobody would have even
noticed. Of course, after your boorish behaviour, people may have
started thinking that he had a point there.

Good on John, it was what is commonly known as an own goal.

Bullshit, if you'll remember at the time, I was advised that this anti-
gun zealot was one of aus.electronics "long standing and highly
respected" posters, yep, even when he was spilling his anti-gun and
anti gun-owner bile.

When you talk of spilling bile John, you're quite handy at it yourself.
Expressions like "Word vomit" mean anything to you? To complain of the
actions of others while doing the same is hypocrisy one of the lowest
forms of human endeavour.

No, I would say hate and prejudice is one of the lowest forms of human
endeavour.

The belief that someone is entitled to voice their opinion, but
someone with a differing opinion is not, and the belief they should be
abused and vilified for doing so, is prejudice.

 

[John-Melb]

Found this for you Keefy,
====================On Sep 26 2009, 10:28 pm, John - Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.


Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing onaus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

========================You will note that Keefy doesn't have a problem with totally off-topic
anti-gun word vomit appearing on places like aus.electronics, except,
that it may result in alternative viewpoints also appearing.

Keefy (like Trevor Tosspot) claims not to know what the term "anti-
gun" means and claims he is not "anti-gun" or "anti-gun owner".

However, he doesn't believe that gun owners should have the same
rights to voice their opinion or voice those opinions in the same
places/formats as anti-gun zealots, he therefore views gun owners as
second class citizens with less rights than anti-gun zealots.

The word you're looking for Keefy is "Untermensch".

 

[John-Melb]

On Feb 15, 9:00 am, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

John-Melb wrote:
More likely, given the responses I received, 85% in favour of Wilson's
opinion, 15% to frightened to give their own for fear of being
vilified by you long standing and highly respected poster or his
mates.

Classic.

You disagree? tell me why?

 

[keithr]

On 15/02/2012 9:00 AM, John-Melb wrote:

Found this for you Keefy,
=====================
On Sep 26 2009, 10:28 pm, John - Melb<mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com
wrote:
On Sep 25, 5:45 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Put it somewhere else trevor, otherwise you'll have your alter ego and
his little mates from APG swarming all over the place again.


Sorry Keefy, too late.

It's interesting to note that Keefy isn't concerned about Trevor's
anti-gun rants appearing onaus.electronics, he's concerned that an
alternative viewpoint may appear.

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

=========================
You will note that Keefy doesn't have a problem with totally off-topic
anti-gun word vomit appearing on places like aus.electronics, except,
that it may result in alternative viewpoints also appearing.

Keefy (like Trevor Tosspot) claims not to know what the term "anti-
gun" means and claims he is not "anti-gun" or "anti-gun owner".

However, he doesn't believe that gun owners should have the same
rights to voice their opinion or voice those opinions in the same
places/formats as anti-gun zealots, he therefore views gun owners as
second class citizens with less rights than anti-gun zealots.

The word you're looking for Keefy is "Untermensch".

Well princess, if you consider yourself to be sub-human, then you really
do have a problem. A good psychiatrist should be able to help you, you
probably have one there at the prison.

Well mildly amusing as it may have been swapping childish insults with
you, Sporran613, and Baden-Powell's despair, there are more important
things to do like looking after a sick wife. So carry on doing it by
yourselves if you wish, you are probably good at that.

 

[John-Melb]

On Feb 23, 12:10 am, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Well princess, if you consider yourself to be sub-human, then you really
do have a problem. A good psychiatrist should be able to help you, you
probably have one there at the prison.

I don't, but clearly you do, it's funny, I've heard your good mate and
fellow "anti", Trevor Tosspot tell others to "get a human being to
explain it to you", so I'm not surprised you hold the same views.

Well mildly amusing as it may have been swapping childish insults with
you, Sporran613, and Baden-Powell's despair, there are more important
things to do like looking after a sick wife. So carry on doing it by
yourselves if you wish, you are probably good at that.

Sorry to hear that, hope Mr's Keith is feeling better real soon.

 

[keithr]

On 3/03/2012 9:21 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 03-Mar-12 9:11 AM, geoff wrote:

How much do you image the real manufacturing cost of, say, an Android
smartphone is ?

geoff

I would imagine it could be in the range of 5% to 20% of the retail
price, but it must reach the wholesaler at a price he can make a living
out of it, otherwise he wouldn't be in business.

Cheers Don...

=========================


RS Australia has it listed at $50, which is probably about what you'd

have to pay to get a $35 item from the UK including shipping.

I will certainly get one as soon as I can, I'd like to see whether it
can run apache as a home web server and home automation machine.

A full Linux machine for $50 is disruptive technology, if it does
perform as the hype suggests, I see a lot of uses for it, and probably a
flood of imitators.

The PIC and Arduino boards certainly have their uses, but horse for
courses.

 

[Xeno]

"Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f5b4fc5$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

"SolomonW" <SolomonW@citi.com> wrote in message
news:lne58r0xxxdn.13j9yxkhjy2x5$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:32:33 +0800, Xeno wrote:

I have a fax/phone machine. If no one answers a call, the fax machine
answers the call and receives the fax if it is a fax.

I want to have the machine take a voice message if the person wants to
leave
a voice message. Is this possible? I would suspect it is not.

You need a fax switch and an answering machine.

Yep...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230752961663
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170624947969

Interestingly, there don't seem to be any Australian or even Chinese
sellers ATM :-/

Not something you can pick up from something like Dick Smith?

 

[who where]

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:41:09 +0800, "Xeno" <xeno@no.spam.no> wrote:

"Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f5b4fc5$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
"SolomonW" <SolomonW@citi.com> wrote in message
news:lne58r0xxxdn.13j9yxkhjy2x5$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:32:33 +0800, Xeno wrote:

I have a fax/phone machine. If no one answers a call, the fax machine
answers the call and receives the fax if it is a fax.

I want to have the machine take a voice message if the person wants to
leave
a voice message. Is this possible? I would suspect it is not.

You need a fax switch and an answering machine.

Yep...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230752961663
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170624947969

Interestingly, there don't seem to be any Australian or even Chinese
sellers ATM :-/

I have two of the NatComm fax switches (one used, one
unused/opened/tested spare) here. Worked fine with Hellstra's Duet
service until they fscked me around regarding number blocks at the
exchange. As a result I dropped Duet and now only ever send faxes.

If anyone wants to make an offer ... (they are the grey cased model
before the snazzy decorated black one on their website (see below).

Not something you can pick up from something like Dick Smith?

Not since the decline in popularity of fax, if ever

National Communications (Aust) Pty Ltd manufacture a whole raft of
telecomms switching etc hardware, including fax switches. Their Duet
Switches may provide the functionality you require.
(http://www.natcomm.com.au/au/faxstream-duet-switches-and-fax-switches/duet-switches/),

The good news is that you can easily ask them about your current
hardware.

No connection other than a satisfied customer.

 

[Xeno]

"who where" <noone@home.net> wrote in message
news:4dvnl7h1u44ehr9bincgbhvfucjsghoibp@4ax.com...

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:41:09 +0800, "Xeno" <xeno@no.spam.no> wrote:


"Bob Milutinovic" <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f5b4fc5$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
"SolomonW" <SolomonW@citi.com> wrote in message
news:lne58r0xxxdn.13j9yxkhjy2x5$.dlg@40tude.net...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 17:32:33 +0800, Xeno wrote:

I have a fax/phone machine. If no one answers a call, the fax machine
answers the call and receives the fax if it is a fax.

I want to have the machine take a voice message if the person wants to
leave
a voice message. Is this possible? I would suspect it is not.

You need a fax switch and an answering machine.

Yep...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230752961663
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170624947969

Interestingly, there don't seem to be any Australian or even Chinese
sellers ATM :-/

I have two of the NatComm fax switches (one used, one
unused/opened/tested spare) here. Worked fine with Hellstra's Duet
service until they fscked me around regarding number blocks at the
exchange. As a result I dropped Duet and now only ever send faxes.

If anyone wants to make an offer ... (they are the grey cased model
before the snazzy decorated black one on their website (see below).

Not something you can pick up from something like Dick Smith?

Not since the decline in popularity of fax, if ever

National Communications (Aust) Pty Ltd manufacture a whole raft of
telecomms switching etc hardware, including fax switches. Their Duet
Switches may provide the functionality you require.
(http://www.natcomm.com.au/au/faxstream-duet-switches-and-fax-switches/duet-switches/),

The good news is that you can easily ask them about your current
hardware.

No connection other than a satisfied customer.

Are these switches reliable? How do they work? Would it ever be possible
for example to miss a fax and for it go through to the answering machine?

 

[Rod Speed]

Xeno wrote

who where <noone@home.net> wrote
Xeno <xeno@no.spam.no> wrote
Bob Milutinovic <cognicom@gmail.com> wrote
SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com> wrote
Xeno wrote

I have a fax/phone machine. If no one answers a call, the fax
machine answers the call and receives the fax if it is a fax.

I want to have the machine take a voice message if the person wants to leave a voice message. Is this possible?
I would suspect it is not.

You need a fax switch and an answering machine.

Yep...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230752961663
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170624947969

Interestingly, there don't seem to be any Australian or even
Chinese sellers ATM :-/

I have two of the NatComm fax switches (one used, one
unused/opened/tested spare) here. Worked fine with Hellstra's Duet
service until they fscked me around regarding number blocks at the
exchange. As a result I dropped Duet and now only ever send faxes.

If anyone wants to make an offer ... (they are the grey cased model
before the snazzy decorated black one on their website (see below).

Not something you can pick up from something like Dick Smith?

Not since the decline in popularity of fax, if ever

National Communications (Aust) Pty Ltd manufacture a whole raft of
telecomms switching etc hardware, including fax switches. Their Duet
Switches may provide the functionality you require.
(http://www.natcomm.com.au/au/faxstream-duet-switches-and-fax-switches/duet-switches/),

The good news is that you can easily ask them about your current hardware.

No connection other than a satisfied customer.

Are these switches reliable?

Not completely unless you use Duet and it costs more.

How do they work?

That varys. With Duet, the exchange puts tones on the
line to indicate which of the two numbers got the call.

If you dont use Duet, it has to try to work out if its a fax calling or not.

While most faxes do present the characteristic tones on the line that
allow the receiver to decide if its a fax or not, not all faxes do that.

Would it ever be possible for example to miss a fax and for it go through to the answering machine?

Without using Duet, yes, particularly with faxes than dont put the tones on the line when they call.

 

[felix_unger]

On 11-March-2012 2:04 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

Xeno wrote
who where<noone@home.net> wrote
Xeno<xeno@no.spam.no> wrote
Bob Milutinovic<cognicom@gmail.com> wrote
SolomonW<SolomonW@citi.com> wrote
Xeno wrote
I have a fax/phone machine. If no one answers a call, the fax
machine answers the call and receives the fax if it is a fax.
I want to have the machine take a voice message if the person wants to leave a voice message. Is this possible?
I would suspect it is not.
You need a fax switch and an answering machine.
Yep...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230752961663
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170624947969
Interestingly, there don't seem to be any Australian or even
Chinese sellers ATM :-/
I have two of the NatComm fax switches (one used, one
unused/opened/tested spare) here. Worked fine with Hellstra's Duet
service until they fscked me around regarding number blocks at the
exchange. As a result I dropped Duet and now only ever send faxes.
If anyone wants to make an offer ... (they are the grey cased model
before the snazzy decorated black one on their website (see below).
Not something you can pick up from something like Dick Smith?
Not since the decline in popularity of fax, if ever

National Communications (Aust) Pty Ltd manufacture a whole raft of
telecomms switching etc hardware, including fax switches. Their Duet
Switches may provide the functionality you require.
(http://www.natcomm.com.au/au/faxstream-duet-switches-and-fax-switches/duet-switches/),
The good news is that you can easily ask them about your current hardware.
No connection other than a satisfied customer.
Are these switches reliable?
Not completely unless you use Duet and it costs more.

How do they work?
That varys. With Duet, the exchange puts tones on the
line to indicate which of the two numbers got the call.

If you dont use Duet, it has to try to work out if its a fax calling or not.

While most faxes do present the characteristic tones on the line that
allow the receiver to decide if its a fax or not, not all faxes do that.

correct. especially the spammers

Would it ever be possible for example to miss a fax and for it go through to the answering machine?
Without using Duet, yes, particularly with faxes than dont put the tones on the line when they call.

yes

--
rgds,

Pete
-------
“If Julia is the answer, then what was the stupid question?!”

"Julia finally got something right. Older people don't vote Labor, because they have seen too many incompetent, mismanaging, money-wasting Labor governments"

“It doesn't matter [who the leader is] the Labor Party is rotten, the policies stink, the lies insufferable, and the waste intolerable. The Muppets could do a better job!”

“All that's needed now is a small miracle to rid us of the worst prime minister and the worst government in Australia's history”

"If the WORLD as a whole cut ALL emissions tomorrow, the average temperature of the planet's not going to drop for several hundred years, perhaps over on thousand years" - Tim Flannery, Climate Commissioner

"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct from natural variation" - Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville

"Currently, China and India combined emit 20 times as much as Australia each day, and that factor is increasing rapidly. Australia's annual savings by 2020 could be emitted by China and India within five days" - Dr. David Evans former Govt Climate Adviser.

“What I see is a country bravely beating along to the agenda of some ideological people, in this case the socialist left of the ALP and the Greens, to take away what is a natural advantage. At the end of the day, we are paying someone else to use our coal” - Peter Costello, former Federal Treasurer - http://tinyurl.com/costello-carbon-tax

“Wayne Swan threatening the Banks, is a bit like being savaged by a dead sheep!”

 

[who where]

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 14:04:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Xeno wrote
who where <noone@home.net> wrote

I have two of the NatComm fax switches (one used, one
unused/opened/tested spare) here. Worked fine with Hellstra's Duet
service until they fscked me around regarding number blocks at the
exchange. As a result I dropped Duet and now only ever send faxes.

If anyone wants to make an offer ... (they are the grey cased model
before the snazzy decorated black one on their website (see below).

Not something you can pick up from something like Dick Smith?

Not since the decline in popularity of fax, if ever

National Communications (Aust) Pty Ltd manufacture a whole raft of
telecomms switching etc hardware, including fax switches. Their Duet
Switches may provide the functionality you require.
(http://www.natcomm.com.au/au/faxstream-duet-switches-and-fax-switches/duet-switches/),

The good news is that you can easily ask them about your current hardware.

No connection other than a satisfied customer.

Are these switches reliable?

Not completely unless you use Duet and it costs more.

How do they work?

That varys. With Duet, the exchange puts tones on the
line to indicate which of the two numbers got the call.

No it doesn't. All Duet ("Distinctive Ring") does is present a
different ring cadence for each service number. It is then up to the
receiving equipment (human or machine) to decide what to do with the
call.

These NatComm switches route the alternate cadence calls to a
different port. This routing is based solely on the ring cadence and
takes place before the line is looped ("answered").

In the normal SOHO configuration, the fax is connected to the
alternate port while the phone is connected to the standard cadence
port. That way, any unanswered phone calls don't wind up at the fax.

If you dont use Duet, it has to try to work out if its a fax calling or not.

While most faxes do present the characteristic tones on the line that
allow the receiver to decide if its a fax or not, not all faxes do that.

Would it ever be possible for example to miss a fax and for it go through to the answering machine?

Without using Duet, yes, particularly with faxes than dont put the tones on the line when they call.

 

[John-Melb]

On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Well lets see, it is believed that he has killed two women, and has shot
a cop, not dangerous at all. It ain't a rusty old .22 either a good
condition semi auto that a legal and responsible gun owner obviously
didn't do an exceptional job of protecting.

Oh Look, Keefy's been around again, and I thought you only posted here
to "annoy the crap" out of me. I haven't been around for weeks, but
Keefy's still been around voicing his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
mantra.

The last I checked, theft is a criminal offence, do you often blame
the victims of crime in all crimes Keefy, or only when the victim is a
gun owner?

Would you blame the victim if the crime being discussed was rape?

It isn't just the lebs getting guns from that operation, its the good
ol' Aussie bikies too.

 

[John-Melb]

On Mar 14, 2:21 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 14/03/2012 7:22 AM, walt tonne wrote:

When is the last time one of the gun control freaks was beaten to a
gory pulp? Others
may get the message.

Now there is an intelligent addition to the debate.

Can't you just see the headline "Gun owners threaten to beat opponents
to a gory pulp".

That would do a lot for the cause of loosening the gun laws.

And don't you just love it when some redneck lives up to your
prejudices

 

[John-Melb]

On Mar 18, 7:58 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 18/03/2012 6:29 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:

Well lets see, it is believed that he has killed two women, and has shot
a cop, not dangerous at all. It ain't a rusty old .22 either a good
condition semi auto that a legal and responsible gun owner obviously
didn't do an exceptional job of protecting.

Oh Look, Keefy's been around again, and I thought you only posted here
to "annoy the crap" out of me. I haven't been around for weeks, but
Keefy's still been around voicing his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
mantra.

Oh Look, princess john the cross posting arsehole been around again,
giving honest gun owners a bad name yet again.

You still don't have a problem with Trevor Tosspot posting his anti-
gun and anti-gun owner bile on places like aus.electronics, well
you're nothing if not consistant.

The last I checked, theft is a criminal offence, do you often blame
the victims of crime in all crimes Keefy, or only when the victim is a
gun owner?

Gun owners are under a legal obligation to protect their weapons
therefore, if a gun under their control is stolen, they are per se
criminals themselves.

So you do only blame the victims of crime when the victims are gun
owners, that's nice to know.

Would you blame the victim if the crime being discussed was rape?

Nope they would not be under a legal obligation to protect themself
against the crime.







It isn't just the lebs getting guns from that operation, its the good
ol' Aussie bikies too.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 3/19/2012 8:35 AM, John-Melb wrote:

On Mar 19, 7:36 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:
On 3/18/2012 10:12 PM, keithr wrote:









On 18/03/2012 8:05 PM, John-Melb wrote:
On Mar 18, 7:58 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 18/03/2012 6:29 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Well lets see, it is believed that he has killed two women, and has
shot
a cop, not dangerous at all. It ain't a rusty old .22 either a good
condition semi auto that a legal and responsible gun owner obviously
didn't do an exceptional job of protecting.

Oh Look, Keefy's been around again, and I thought you only posted here
to "annoy the crap" out of me. I haven't been around for weeks, but
Keefy's still been around voicing his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
mantra.

Oh Look, princess john the cross posting arsehole been around again,
giving honest gun owners a bad name yet again.

You still don't have a problem with Trevor Tosspot posting his anti-
gun and anti-gun owner bile on places like aus.electronics, well
you're nothing if not consistant.

You really are a twisted little man aren't you? Bent on taking revenge
on every sleight that you have ever had.

All that you do is to strengthen wilson's case by giving the worst
possible image of gun owners.

**Let's be VERY clear. Many (most?) gun owners are responsible,
sensible, law-abiding people, who are happy to comply with the sane,
coherent gun control laws in Australia. SOME gun owners are fuckwits.
John McNamara appears to be one of these fuckwits. I do not judge all
gun owners by John's stupidity. Nor do I judge gun owners by the
stupidity regularly placed in this group by Chris Diesel. I don't judge
all gun owners by the gun loon's representative, Borsak, either.
However, until gun owners begin to criticise Borsak's evil and deranged
mind, there will be issues separating gun onwers from the rest of us.

The "rest of us", which "us" would that be Trevor, you, Keefy and some
mates over at aus.electronics?

**Gun owners, in Australia, are a minority group. Like it or not, vocal
fuckwits, like you, Chris Diesel and Borsak will colour the perception
that the majority holds. For myself, I number several gun owners as
friends and acquaintances, so I am aware that people like you, Chris and
Borsak are probably abberrations.

Oh that's right, in the world of anti-gun zealots like Trevor Tosspot,
people who lawfully own guns for sporting or recreational purposes
aren't considered part of normal society.

**They're your words. I will remind you of those words in due course.


--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:51:14 -0700 (PDT), John - Melb
<mcnamara_john@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 19, 8:44 am, Trevor Wilson <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:
On 3/19/2012 8:35 AM, John-Melb wrote:

On Mar 19, 7:36 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:
On 3/18/2012 10:12 PM, keithr wrote:

On 18/03/2012 8:05 PM, John-Melb wrote:
On Mar 18, 7:58 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
On 18/03/2012 6:29 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:

Well lets see, it is believed that he has killed two women, and has
shot
a cop, not dangerous at all. It ain't a rusty old .22 either a good
condition semi auto that a legal and responsible gun owner obviously
didn't do an exceptional job of protecting.

Oh Look, Keefy's been around again, and I thought you only posted here
to "annoy the crap" out of me. I haven't been around for weeks, but
Keefy's still been around voicing his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
mantra.

Oh Look, princess john the cross posting arsehole been around again,
giving honest gun owners a bad name yet again.

You still don't have a problem with Trevor Tosspot posting his anti-
gun and anti-gun owner bile on places like aus.electronics, well
you're nothing if not consistant.

You really are a twisted little man aren't you? Bent on taking revenge
on every sleight that you have ever had.

All that you do is to strengthen wilson's case by giving the worst
possible image of gun owners.

**Let's be VERY clear. Many (most?) gun owners are responsible,
sensible, law-abiding people, who are happy to comply with the sane,
coherent gun control laws in Australia. SOME gun owners are fuckwits.
John McNamara appears to be one of these fuckwits. I do not judge all
gun owners by John's stupidity. Nor do I judge gun owners by the
stupidity regularly placed in this group by Chris Diesel. I don't judge
all gun owners by the gun loon's representative, Borsak, either.
However, until gun owners begin to criticise Borsak's evil and deranged
mind, there will be issues separating gun onwers from the rest of us.

The "rest of us", which "us" would that be Trevor, you, Keefy and some
mates over at aus.electronics?

**Gun owners, in Australia, are a minority group. Like it or not, vocal
fuckwits, like you, Chris Diesel and Borsak will colour the perception
that the majority holds. For myself, I number several gun owners as
friends and acquaintances, so I am aware that people like you, Chris and
Borsak are probably abberrations.

Including your friend who can STOP his heart?

The perceptions of guns and gun owners at aus.electronics were well
and truly made up long before I posted anything there, you'll recall
they didn't have a problem with you posting your anti-gun and anti-
gunowner word vomit there, but got very upset when alternative
viewpoint appeared.

The sooner you fuck off and die, the better.

Or go and get some councilling, maybe you'll wake up to the stupidity
of this stupid campaign of yours. I'd almost swear you were an
anti-gun nut in disguise, trying to discredit legitimate and
responsible gun owners.

 

[John-Melb]

On Mar 19, 7:36 am, Trevor Wilson <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

On 3/18/2012 10:12 PM, keithr wrote:









On 18/03/2012 8:05 PM, John-Melb wrote:
On Mar 18, 7:58 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 18/03/2012 6:29 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Well lets see, it is believed that he has killed two women, and has
shot
a cop, not dangerous at all. It ain't a rusty old .22 either a good
condition semi auto that a legal and responsible gun owner obviously
didn't do an exceptional job of protecting.

Oh Look, Keefy's been around again, and I thought you only posted here
to "annoy the crap" out of me. I haven't been around for weeks, but
Keefy's still been around voicing his anti-gun and anti-gun owner
mantra.

Oh Look, princess john the cross posting arsehole been around again,
giving honest gun owners a bad name yet again.

You still don't have a problem with Trevor Tosspot posting his anti-
gun and anti-gun owner bile on places like aus.electronics, well
you're nothing if not consistant.

You really are a twisted little man aren't you? Bent on taking revenge
on every sleight that you have ever had.

All that you do is to strengthen wilson's case by giving the worst
possible image of gun owners.

**Let's be VERY clear. Many (most?) gun owners are responsible,
sensible, law-abiding people, who are happy to comply with the sane,
coherent gun control laws in Australia. SOME gun owners are fuckwits.
John McNamara appears to be one of these fuckwits. I do not judge all
gun owners by John's stupidity. Nor do I judge gun owners by the
stupidity regularly placed in this group by Chris Diesel. I don't judge
all gun owners by the gun loon's representative, Borsak, either.
However, until gun owners begin to criticise Borsak's evil and deranged
mind, there will be issues separating gun onwers from the rest of us.

The "rest of us", which "us" would that be Trevor, you, Keefy and some

mates over at aus.electronics?

Oh that's right, in the world of anti-gun zealots like Trevor Tosspot,
people who lawfully own guns for sporting or recreational purposes
aren't considered part of normal society.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au