PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[John-Melb]

On Aug 3, 10:48 am, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 2/08/2010 7:15 PM, John-Melb wrote:





On Aug 2, 2:41 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
John-Melb wrote:
On Jul 29, 10:53 am, "Trevor Wilson"<tre...@rageaudio.com.au>  wrote:
SNIP>  fuck-all of any interest.

Isn't this funny, some anti-gun idiot and Trevor Tosspot post their
off-topic anti-gun dribble on groups like "rec.food.cooking" and
"rec.outdoors.camping", and Keefy the crossposting policeman says
nothing.

Remind us again how gun related posts are not welcome on
aus.electronics, unless they're posted by some anti-gun zealot like
Tosspot.

Ah princess, did you miss me? Thats sweet, hadn't you noticed that I had
been gone for nearly 4 weeks? One possible reason that I didn't comment
is because I only got back from the USA yesterday afternoon.

Another Brady bunch meeting I guess. It's nice to know that you come
looking to see what I'd been up to so soon after returning.

You really are the teen princess aren't you? With your crush on Trevor
Wilson and the liking for brain dead sickly sweet 70's yank sitcoms.



The other possibility is that I don't read "rec.food.cooking" and
"rec.outdoors.camping" and I don't track TW's posts across the internet
either, I leave that to fanatics like you.

Maybe I noticed it because it was also cross-posted to
aus.politics.guns

So why did you feel the need to compound the felony by cross posting to
aus.electronics then? Trolls and cross posters are the lowest scum on
usenet.

Well, I know how supportive you folks at aus.electronics are of TW's

anti-gun dribble being posted in places where it is O/T, so I thought
you'd be interested to here about it.

I did think about bringing you back a present. Walmart had some Barbie
and my Little Pony fishing kits, but they were $12.50 and thats more
than you are worth.

That's for thinking about me while you were away, I would have
preferred a pouch of Carter Hall pipe tobacco

I suppose that they may sell pipe tobacco in the states, but in 15 years
of regularly visiting there and 6 years of living there, I do not recall
ever seeing a yank smoking a pipe

I guess you don't get any pipe smokers in the vegetarian restaurants
near to the Brady Bunch offices.

Remind us again how gun related posts are not welcome on
aus.electronics, unless they're posted by some anti-gun zealot like
Tosspot.

 

[George Orwell]

"Addinall" <addinall@addinall.org> wrote in message
news:fc4c9b30-0e88-4a2a-a7f0-db4d6f559585@q40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...

I am utterly amazed that this pile of dog vomit can
consider another pile of cat vomit a success....

NBN rollout in Tasmania a success: Conroy
Posted Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:14pm AEST

The Federal Government says stage one of the National Broadband
Network (NBN) rollout in Tasmania has been completed on schedule and
under budget.

WHAT BUDGET?

The $43 billion NBN's first three connection sites were officially
launched by Prime Minister Julia Gillard during her Tasmanian campaign
visit in August.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has vowed to closely monitor the
Government's rollout of the program, saying there is potential for
waste and mismanagement.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has told Radio National he is
not concerned.

"In Tasmania the first stage has been completed, we've got hundreds of
customers now in Tasmania," he said.


Well, nearly a hundred. And the cost was $700,000,000
Great value.



"In the last six to eight weeks since it was actually turned on we
came in on budget - in fact 10 per cent under budget and on time."

Well, 16 months late, sorta on time...


Only half of households in Tasmania's NBN areas have signed up to have
fibre connections.



And that is when offered for FREE!

Oh my, what a fucking disater this is going to be.

Mark Addinall.

Fortunatelly for us, Lieberals nominated Malcolm Turnbull to be a
Communication expert.
He need in his team former Lieberal communication experts like Minchin and a
big tits woman (I forget her name). Their experience should lead us to
fire&carpet, signaling flags, distant sign language and pigeon mesagging as
a NBN replacement.

Both parties are hopeless. It's time for a real democracy I suggested 8
years ago so they kept me unemployed since.

The solution is: On-line referendums - we don't need expensive and useless
Parliament.
People who use Internet are able to represent themselves and vote on-line.
People who has no Internet (read no interest to learn to use it) should not
make decissions about Australians future and should be excluded from voting
just like children or mentally impaired people are excluded now.

Existing Internet is fine for me and 90% of Australians. It's fast, cheap
and reliable. Last year I have cancelled Foxtel and telephone rentals - my
ISP & my satellite dish provide all Internet, TV and phone/fax services.

Please don't come back with idiocy that farmers do not have Internet as this
is a LIE. Government subsidy pay almost 100% for Satellite Internet to
everyfarmet who want it and it covers 100% of Australian teritory. And there
is a lot of unused bandwith.

Why is Government involved in Internet? Only to control us.

Internet should stay private business out of Government censors and spies.

NEXT PM

 

[kreed]

Fortunatelly for us, Lieberals nominated Malcolm Turnbull to be a
Communication expert.
He need in his team former Lieberal communication experts like Minchin and a
big tits woman (I forget her name). Their experience should lead us to
fire&carpet, signaling flags, distant sign language and pigeon mesagging as
a NBN replacement.

Both parties are hopeless. It's time for a real democracy I suggested 8
years ago so they kept me unemployed since.

The solution is: On-line referendums - we don't need expensive and useless
Parliament.

There are many things we need.

1> Preventing people who bludge off the welfare all their lives when
they can work, from voting for proposals or parties that will take the
money of those that do earn. One example would be to only allow senate
voting for people who own or have reasonable equity in their
property / own (or have reasonable equity in) their own business /
served in the military - in other words people who actually have a
stake in the country, have put their life on the line for it, have
something to lose, and will personally be adversely affected by bad
policy, ensuring that they give some real thought to the national
interest/economy etc before voting.
People who have a legitimate need for welfare assistance and cannot
provide for themselves and require benefits such as age pensioners,
genuinely invalid to be exempt from this rule.

Disallowing voting for both houses of parliament would probably result
in the gov arranging laws somehow selectively putting as many people
on benefits as possible,
to eliminate totally any right to vote.

Voting also needs to cover every issue, not this failed policy of
simply electing a "management team" that don't represent the public on
most of their decisions.
Conroy and his attitude on filtering are a prime example. There needs
to be a mechanism for the public to remove people like this during
their term and/or block these sort of policies. It breaches human
rights (freedom of speech and information) also.


2> Politicians to be subject to criminal/civil liability for
incompetence, mismanagement, fraud, dishonesty, corruption - ie exact
same things that a regular person would. Politicians voting for or
introducing any bill that violates constitutional or basic human
rights needs to be criminally charged and prosecuted.
To prevent corruption, groups external to the government must be able
to investigate these matters publicly and press charges as the police
and courts are compromised and cannot be relied on to handle these
matters.
There should be some legally binding status on election promises too.
This can force changes to unintended consequences of a policy that the
public wouldn't have wanted if they had known.


3> They think that police state style monitoring of every aspect of
the public's activities is necessary for "our safety" ?

As pollies spout "equal rights" crap, then how about we do the same
police state monitoring of every moment of government officials/
politicians/police and anyone who is remotely suspected of corruption.
Some kind of 24 / 7 wearable GPS, Audio, video linked device would be
ideal - as well as monitoring of all government facilites and
vehicles. After all, throughout history politicians and governments
have proved time and time again that they are the greatest danger to
life, liberty and property and their actions cause the greatest
damage, and there is a need to keep them on a very very short leash
and under tight scrutiny for our own safety and protection. This would
also kill corruption stone dead.

4> Contentious issues like the "carbon tax" that have a significant
amount of support for and against need to be done on a basis of "those
that want to participate - facilitate it so they can, those who don't
want to can keep out of it". This is one example of a group of people
voting the money out of other people's pockets on what many believe to
be false information. Give those that believe - the right to
voluntarily contribute of their own free will.

5> Equal campaign funding. Leading up to an election, the media should
supply an equal number of minutes of TV/radio or equal amounts of
newspaper adverts of political advertising to each candidate in each
seat to use as they see fit, also equal value of production of
adverts. Equal allowance for printing of flyers etc.
Would be good to see them provide this gratis as its only for a short
time every couple of years, all in the interests of democracy.

6>Strict limits on government borrowing.
We shouldn't bear the bill for incompetence or mismanagement - Keating
for example.

People who use Internet are able to represent themselves and vote on-line.
People who has no Internet (read no interest to learn to use it) should not
make decisions about Australians future and should be excluded from voting
just like children or mentally impaired people are excluded now.

I don't think that is very fair. Some don't have or want it. Some
physically impaired people might not even be able to use it.

Existing Internet is fine for me and 90% of Australians. It's fast, cheap
and reliable. Last year I have cancelled Foxtel and telephone rentals - my
ISP & my satellite dish provide all Internet, TV and phone/fax services.

yes

Please don't come back with idiocy that farmers do not have Internet as this
is a LIE. Government subsidy pay almost 100% for Satellite Internet to
everyfarmet who want it and it covers 100% of Australian teritory. And there
is a lot of unused bandwith.

yes

Why is Government involved in Internet? Only to control us.

Internet should stay private business out of Government censors and spies.

There should be no form whatsoever of internet censorship, except for
those that voluntarily
and freely purchase/obtain their own internet censorship programs
(like "Net Nanny" etc) and set their own
filtering rules appropriate for their or their children's usage.

There are adequate laws around to investigate and punish criminal
activity on the net such as fraud, theft etc.
Make the police do the job they are paid for.


> NEXT PM

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2010-09-15, George Orwell <anonymous@rip.ax.lt> wrote:

The solution is: On-line referendums - we don't need expensive and useless
Parliament.

so who writes the legislation?

People who use Internet are able to represent themselves and vote on-line.
People who has no Internet (read no interest to learn to use it) should not
make decissions about Australians future and should be excluded from voting
just like children or mentally impaired people are excluded now.

Just look at the success USA has had with computerised voting.
Now you can have the same in your own home!

Expect to see laws protecting botnet operators passed.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2010-09-15, George Orwell <anonymous@rip.ax.lt> wrote:

The solution is: On-line referendums - we don't need expensive and useless
Parliament.

so who writes the legislation?

People who use Internet are able to represent themselves and vote on-line.
People who has no Internet (read no interest to learn to use it) should not
make decissions about Australians future and should be excluded from voting
just like children or mentally impaired people are excluded now.

Just look at the success USA has had with computerised voting.
Now you can have the same in your own home!

Expect to see laws protecting botnet operators passed.

Of course. Then we can chose the 'winners' in all European
elections.


--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

 

[kreed]

On Sep 16, 11:24 pm, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2010-09-15, George Orwell <anonym...@rip.ax.lt> wrote:

The solution is: On-line referendums - we don't need expensive and useless
Parliament.

so who writes the legislation?

Big business, illuminiati etc currently do. Little is written for the
benefit of the citizens.
In this regard, we would probably be better off if there wasnt any
written at all

People who use Internet are able to represent themselves and vote on-line.
People who has no Internet (read no interest to learn to use it) should not
make decissions about Australians future and should be excluded from voting
just like children or mentally impaired people are excluded now.

Just look at the success USA has had with computerised voting.
Now you can have the same in your own home!

Expect to see laws protecting botnet operators passed.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...@netfront.net ---

Anything compute data can be (and often is) compromised, and it is all
but impossible to prove or disprove this tampering.

Only paper ballot or some physical method is reliable IMHO.

 

[Vox]

Wolfgang Wildeblood wrote:

I was watching Lateline Business tonight when the TV just went off
without warning. About 5-10 seconds later it came back on... with
sound but no picture. After about a minute I became aware of invisible
but acrid smoke filling the room. Looks like it's time to buy a new
TV. Just in time to enjoy 7mate.

Maybe its poped a cap. on the EHT Flyback transformer circuitry

http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/flytest.htm

 

[Ross Herbert]

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:44:41 GMT, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

:Karl Von Moller has finished the trailer for his awesome Australian
:electronics industry documentary:
:http://vimeo.com/15612312
:
:I'll keep everyone informed when the full version is available.
:
ave.


Thanks for the update and the video link Dave. It is looking like it will be an
excellent doco if the trailer is anything to go by - can't wait.

 

[David L. Jones]

Ross Herbert <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in
news:2adqa6t81adb15gh6krs1fcs1s06s0ndgl@4ax.com:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:44:41 GMT, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com
wrote:

:Karl Von Moller has finished the trailer for his awesome Australian
:electronics industry documentary:
:http://vimeo.com/15612312
:
:I'll keep everyone informed when the full version is available.
:
ave.


Thanks for the update and the video link Dave. It is looking like it
will be an excellent doco if the trailer is anything to go by - can't
wait.

Yes, I'm sure it will be brilliant, as Karl is a world class director
and filmmaker (and an electronics hobbyist to boot). It will become an
historically important doco, no doubt.

Karl has a 2 hour cut already done and is working on a shorter cut as
well, plus another name to add to the list.

BTW, none of us were told any of the questions beforehand, so all the
responses are off-the-cuff stuff. In fact we (and even Karl) weren't
entirely sure of the direction of the doco when it was filmed, so it
will be interesting to see the finished product.

Dave.

 

[Swanny]

On 7/10/2010 12:44 PM, David L. Jones wrote:

Karl Von Moller has finished the trailer for his awesome Australian
electronics industry documentary:
http://vimeo.com/15612312

I'll keep everyone informed when the full version is available.

Dave.

What a great idea, and looks really well done. Look forward to seeing
the full feature.

 

[Swanny]

On 7/10/2010 3:11 PM, David L. Jones wrote:

Ross Herbert <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in
news:2adqa6t81adb15gh6krs1fcs1s06s0ndgl@4ax.com:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:44:41 GMT, "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com
wrote:

:Karl Von Moller has finished the trailer for his awesome Australian
:electronics industry documentary:
:http://vimeo.com/15612312
:
:I'll keep everyone informed when the full version is available.
:
ave.


Thanks for the update and the video link Dave. It is looking like it
will be an excellent doco if the trailer is anything to go by - can't
wait.

Yes, I'm sure it will be brilliant, as Karl is a world class director
and filmmaker (and an electronics hobbyist to boot). It will become an
historically important doco, no doubt.

Karl has a 2 hour cut already done and is working on a shorter cut as
well, plus another name to add to the list.

BTW, none of us were told any of the questions beforehand, so all the
responses are off-the-cuff stuff. In fact we (and even Karl) weren't
entirely sure of the direction of the doco when it was filmed, so it
will be interesting to see the finished product.

Dave.

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete rise
and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

 

[Tom]

On 7/10/2010 2:11 PM, David L. Jones wrote:
....

Karl has a 2 hour cut already done and is working on a shorter cut as
well, plus another name to add to the list.

I'm sure many (including myself) will be happy to spend 2+ hours watching it, we don't need shortcuts!

Tom

 

[terryc]

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:38:56 +1100, Swanny wrote:

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete rise
and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

I had the impression that it was based around the "electronics magazines
of the 70/80's rather than industrial electronics.

 

[Swanny]

On 7/10/2010 11:10 PM, terryc wrote:

On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:38:56 +1100, Swanny wrote:

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete rise
and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

I had the impression that it was based around the "electronics magazines
of the 70/80's rather than industrial electronics.

So it should be 'the state of hobby electronics in Australia' rather
than the 'electronics industry'?

Australia had a thriving electronics industry in the middle of last
century, we even had our own chip fab facility in the 80's and 90's.
Some seriously cool skunkworks activities went on as well.

 

[David L. Jones]

Swanny <swanny@nospam.org> wrote in news:JOero.1269$Bv4.77
@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete rise
and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

It looks like there might be some AWA stuff in it.
If anyone has any specific questions about the rise and fall of AWA they
want potentially included in the doco, please send them to me direct:
eevblog AT gmail DOT com

Thanks
Dave.

 

[David L. Jones]

Swanny <swanny@nospam.org> wrote in
news:sUsro.1284$hz6.103@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com:

On 7/10/2010 11:10 PM, terryc wrote:
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 18:38:56 +1100, Swanny wrote:

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete
rise and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

I had the impression that it was based around the "electronics
magazines of the 70/80's rather than industrial electronics.


So it should be 'the state of hobby electronics in Australia' rather
than the 'electronics industry'?

Australia had a thriving electronics industry in the middle of last
century, we even had our own chip fab facility in the 80's and 90's.

There is still a chip fab here in Sydney, it's changed hands a few times
now.

Dave.

 

[Mark Harriss]

David L. Jones wrote:

Swanny <swanny@nospam.org> wrote in news:JOero.1269$Bv4.77
@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete rise
and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

It looks like there might be some AWA stuff in it.
If anyone has any specific questions about the rise and fall of AWA they
want potentially included in the doco, please send them to me direct:
eevblog AT gmail DOT com

Thanks
Dave.

There was an interview years ago in The Australian Newspaper with the
main culprit responsible for getting AWA in debt: He was employed by
AWA to make forex trades to try and boost their cash reserves. According
to his account of things, he was assigned a secretary to help mind the
phones/faxes etc. As an older person than he was, she basically called
him a snotty nosed brat and spent all day filing her nails and making
phone calls as he tried to track everything on post-it notes and it all
came undone. Of course my recollection may be faulty so the usual dis-
claimers apply.

Page 8-9 of this document has a summary:
http://www.mulss.com/sts-2009s2/corporations/Corporations%20Law%20-%20Tute%205.doc

 

[Swanny]

On 8/10/2010 12:09 PM, Mark Harriss wrote:

David L. Jones wrote:
Swanny <swanny@nospam.org> wrote in news:JOero.1269$Bv4.77
@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:

Hopefully AWA is featured in there, as that has to be a complete rise
and fall story of Australian Electronics, not to mention some
electronics pioneers who worked there half a century ago.

It looks like there might be some AWA stuff in it.
If anyone has any specific questions about the rise and fall of AWA
they want potentially included in the doco, please send them to me
direct: eevblog AT gmail DOT com

Thanks
Dave.


There was an interview years ago in The Australian Newspaper with the
main culprit responsible for getting AWA in debt: He was employed by
AWA to make forex trades to try and boost their cash reserves. According
to his account of things, he was assigned a secretary to help mind the
phones/faxes etc. As an older person than he was, she basically called
him a snotty nosed brat and spent all day filing her nails and making
phone calls as he tried to track everything on post-it notes and it all
came undone. Of course my recollection may be faulty so the usual dis-
claimers apply.

Page 8-9 of this document has a summary:
http://www.mulss.com/sts-2009s2/corporations/Corporations%20Law%20-%20Tute%205.doc

I rescued several large scrapbooks of AWA press clippings from many
decades that was kept up in the CEO's office and was skipped during the
great sell-off in the late 90's. Makes for an interesting historical read.

Japanese efficiency and mass production really tipped the scales away
from AWA's favour, since they had a lot invested in consumer electronics
in the 60's and 70's. Who didn't use an old AWA P1 black-and-white TV
modified as a computer monitor in the 70's?

 

[Mark Harriss]

terryc wrote:

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 11:09:27 +1000, Mark Harriss wrote:

There was an interview years ago in The Australian Newspaper with the
main culprit responsible for getting AWA in debt: He was employed by AWA
to make forex trades to try and boost their cash reserves.

Yep, I was working at a merchant bank at the time and I knew about AWA
trades taking places.

The gossip was that they were making more money trading than from the
rest of the business.

If I recall correctly He was....for a short while.

 

[terryc]

On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:40:56 +1100, Swanny wrote:

Australia had a thriving electronics industry in the middle of last
century, we even had our own chip fab facility in the 80's and 90's.
Some seriously cool skunkworks activities went on as well.

As I found out in the 90's. Would have been wonderful if someone had
mentioned this in the 70's.