PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 23:00:10 GMT, "Gordon W" <welch@hypermax.net.au>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

Could someone please tell me the voltage rating of this cap.
It's a greencap and the only marking is 2G104K. It's part of a voltage
doubler in a bug zapper. It's dimensions are 50% larger than the 100V
greencap that Tricky Dicky sells. If that's a help.
I understand the 104K part so I guess the 2G is the significant bit but I
didn't get anything useful from Google.
A URL or good search words would also be helpful.

Thank you

Gordon
According to a couple of Google references, a 2G104K is a .1ľF 10%
400V Mylar cap. A 2A104K is a .1ľF 10% 100V Mylar.

http://electronickits.com/kit/complete/ligh/ak-520.pdf

A search at Mouser finds similar results under Polyester Film
Capacitors:

http://www.mouser.com/?Ne=100&handler=data.listcategory&N=110

-- Franc Zabkar

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
I must say I'm a PIC fan. Atmel (AVR's) have a bad habit of increasing prices and poor
supply. Microchip are very consistent and well sourced..

At the end of the day just about any small FLASH micro would suit this task

-Andrew M

"Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote in message
news:Fammf.6978$vH5.360643@news.xtra.co.nz...
"Jason S" <jst3712@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:43997335_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
I need to make a circuit that will produce either one, two or three short
consecutive beeps depending on the input signal it recieves.
For example:

Input 1 = One beep (could mean 'ON').
Input 2 = Two beeps (could mean 'OFF').
Input 3 = Three beeps (could mean 'ERROR')..

This is just an example. The 3rd one is not critical, but would be nice.

I want to be able to add it to practically any circuit which will provide
audible confirmation of the circuit's current operation. I was thinking
of
using a PIC to do this, but is last resort (as I know absolutely nothing
about them).

Has anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks.


Use a PIC. The learning curve will be worth it, and as you want to add it to
'practically any circuit' you will later appreciate the flexibility.

Cheers.

Ken
 
"aa" = top posting, law breaking, Saab paddling total fool.

** Nah - it was the fact you are such a smug and arrogant bloody idiot.
Ok. Now I understand.

** What sort of madness makes you think the phone was actually made in
the USA ????

I never said it was made in USA.

** Blatant lie.


Many Italian cars are not made in Italy etc, etc.
By the way, what makes you think I drive Saab ?

** Never said you did.


How do I get the converter ?


** Try Googling one up - fool.

As I suggested in my very first post, I have had no luck in doing do.

** There could be a very simple reason for that - you over snipping fool.


To prove you are not a fool yourself, then please see if you can find the
detailed info about purchasing a converter for me.

** I have not intention of doing anything to help - since what YOU are
doing is illegal.

Might as well ask me to track down prohibited drugs for you.





.......... Phil
 
"Ed-"

**I suggest you all killfile the above FUCKWIT, crim & congenital Horse's
Arse .




.......... Phil
 
"aa" <nospamtomeplease@tiscali.dk> wrote in message
news:43998b63$0$78282$157c6196@dreader1.cybercity.dk...
** Nah - it was the fact you are such a smug and arrogant bloody idiot.
Ok. Now I understand.

** What sort of madness makes you think the phone was actually made in
the USA ????
I never said it was made in USA.
Many Italian cars are not made in Italy etc, etc.
By the way, what makes you think I drive Saab ?
He didn't. To quote PA " ...Saab paddling.."

Stooooopid Phil thinks you paddle a Saab not realising that Saab is an
automotive manufacturer. Of course, we wouldn't expect Phil to know that,
because at the age of 53 he hasn't go a driver's licence. Mind you Saab
also make busses, and I'm sure the little bleeder has caught one of them at
some time. However he's too stooooopid to notice things like that. :p


How do I get the converter ?


** Try Googling one up - fool.

As I suggested in my very first post, I have had no luck in doing do.
To prove you are not a fool yourself, then please see if you can find the
detailed info about purchasing a converter for me.
If you can't, then that makes 2 of us...
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:32:46 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

"paul packer" <packer@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:4398d489.2057588@news.iprimus.com.au...
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 22:00:12 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"
trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Of course, it
sounded like crap and had a bad reputation for destroying speakers, but it
looked great on paper and the reviewers fell over themselves to rave about
it. Consequently, customers fell over themselves to buy them. NAD later
dispensed with the technology, after losing significant sales to
competitive
products (which didn't use rail switching technology).

A question, Trevor. If the reviewers praised the product, and
customers bought it en masse, how did NAD lose "significant sales to
competitive products"?

**You need to understand how the retail world operates. In reality, the
number of people who actually listen to products, before purchase, is
incredibly tiny. Almost all purchase based on the following:

* A glitzy brochure.
* A well written and glowing review.
* A nice front panel.
* Fancy features.
* Word of mouth.

I would estimate that the number of people who actually do a good, hard
listen to a product, BEFORE purchase, at around 0.1%. Or less. Bribery in
the audio business is pretty much ingrained (though not in Australia,
AFAIK). Reviews are bought and sold in the US and the UK. Before you ask: I
have dealt with US, UK and Australian reviewers. No Australian reviewer has
asked for 'consideration' for a review. SOME US and UK based reviewers have
spelt out, in no uncertain terms, how much a good review will cost. I cannot
say if that is a function of the publication, or just corrupt reviewers.
Either way, I don't trust any of them. Except Scot Markwell. He seemed to be
honest and straightforward.

NAD had (justifiably) acquired an excellent reputation for budget, 'high
end' sound quality (my favourite was the brilliant 3120). Albeit, with
rather dodgy constrution and suspect component choice, thanks to the
manufacturing company - Fullet. Sometime around 1984-5 NAD moved production
away from Fullet and released the NAD 2200 power amp. As an NAD dealer, at
the time, I ordered them for my store. I was immediately struck by three
things, when I listened to the amp:

* It's spectacular amount of power, for such a modest price. It was a very
potent package. (A point which should not be underestimated)
* It's pretty decent build quality, compared to previous NAD products.
* It's extremely average sound quality, compared to earlier, less powerful
NAD products.

Based on the above, it is easy to see how, with a good review, the NAD 2200
would gather significant sales. After all, few people actually took the time
to listen to the thing. The market place is a funny thing. Like most things,
there is a time lag, between cause and effect. Yamaha, for instance, built
very good amplifiers, back in the 1970s. Quality plummetted in the 1980s,
but their sales continued rising, during the 1980s, due to the high quality
of their products produced a decade earlier. Marantz is another company
which built very good products in the 1960s and pretty decent products
during the 1970s. Late in the 1970s, my boss at Marantz called me into the
office. He explained that Marantz was about to embark on a new style of
constrution called 'value engineering'. This sounded exciting. The reality
was somewat different. Products produced by Marantz in the late 1970s were
very poorly constructed, using cheaper parts, than the equipment I was
accounstmed to. Nevertheless, sales increased. Largely due to the previously
excellent reputation and the more contemporary styled front panels. IOW:
Outside they looked great, inside was crap.

[ASIDE]: I sold a 2200 to a client who was using a pair of KEF 104.2
speakers. Although I had sold lots of KEF 104.2 speakers, I had only sold
one 2200/104.2 combination. Some time later, the customer brought back the
KEFs complaing that they had no HF. They didn't. Both (ferro-fluid cooled)
tweeters were fried. This was unheard of. The KEF 104.2 tweeters are very
tough. I sent them back to the distributors (Fred A Falk) for under warranty
repair. They rejected the warranty claim, suggesting that the amplifier was
at fault. I replied that the amplifier was an NAD 2200 (which Falk also
imported). Silence. "OK, we'll repair them free of charge." Apparently, the
NAD 2200 has/had an appalling reputation for destroying tweeters. Here's my
theory:

Customer turns amplifier up to the point of clipping (400 Watts). Then
allows the amp to run for a period of time at high levels. The Power
Envelope circuits have a time/energy circuit, which prevent damge (to the
amp), which shuts off the high Voltage supply, after a period of time. Thus,
instead of mild clipping, the amplifier reverts to massive clipping, thus
allowing huge levels of high order harmonics to destroy HF drivers. The
listener, whose ears are suffereing from continuous high level audio, cannot
hear the massive clipping and the tweeters are destroyed.

It sounds as though you were the only one who
noticed it sounded like crap.

**I very much doubt that. I am pretty certain other people actually listened
to the stuff too.
Thanks for this comprehensive reply, Trevor. I love all this
background stuff. I'm not at all sure you answered the apparent
inconsistency I pointed out in your original post (how a company can
lose "significant sales to competitive products" when people are
buying their product as before); indeed I think you supported the
opposite viewpoint, that a company can ride on the back of its former
glory for a long time thanks to people not bothering to listen before
purchase. It's also interesting that you modified "sounded like crap"
to "extremely average sound quality". Given the vagaries of component
matching, I can well imagine very average sound quality passing muster
with most non-enthusiasts, whereas "crap" one would expect to be
discovered as such relatively quickly. I do still feel that you have a
tendency to hyperbole that undermines your credibility and sometimes
causes friction; given the extent of your experience and knowledge I'd
rather you curbed that and gave us the less extreme version of your
opinions in the future (just a thought). I still don't buy it that NAD
went downhill during the 90s due to some obscure design flaw in their
products ("PE"). They did probably lose some ground with the
relatively uninspiring 302/304--312/314 amp line, but then quickly
made up for that with the 320/340 line, on up to the current 320BEE.

Not sure I understand your anecdote of the NAD2200. "Customer turns
amplifier up to the point of clipping (400 Watts)." Why would anyone
in their right mind do that? And why would anyone who did, not deserve
whatever they got? "The listener, whose ears are suffering from
continuous high level audio, cannot hear the massive clipping and the
tweeters are destroyed." Indeed, along with the listener's and most of
the neighbours ears as well, I'd imagine. I don't see that NAD can be
in any way to blame for idiotic users--I certainly wouldn't have fixed
their speakers under warranty. I would have given them a good
dressing-down, but after all that they probably wouldn't have heard
me.
 
The Caller ID function doesn't work, since we use a different system
here. (America uses Bellcore FSK, Denmark uses DMTF).


** Huh ?

Caller ID works independently of the phone.

Well, if the phone has a display and is set up to receive Bell 202
(probable) or V.23 (which are usually interoperable - if the filters aren't
too selective) it won't be able to display the DTMF caller ID they use in
some scandinavian countries. Yepp, the separate display will work, but it
won't display on his "fine American phone", the converter will.

Cheers,
Alf
 
Thanks Andrew, I'll keep that in mind =).

Jase.


"Andrew M" <noone@home> wrote in message
news:439a021f$0$22248$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
I must say I'm a PIC fan. Atmel (AVR's) have a bad habit of increasing
prices and poor supply. Microchip are very consistent and well sourced..

At the end of the day just about any small FLASH micro would suit this
task

-Andrew M

"Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote in message
news:Fammf.6978$vH5.360643@news.xtra.co.nz...
"Jason S" <jst3712@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:43997335_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
I need to make a circuit that will produce either one, two or three
short
consecutive beeps depending on the input signal it recieves.
For example:

Input 1 = One beep (could mean 'ON').
Input 2 = Two beeps (could mean 'OFF').
Input 3 = Three beeps (could mean 'ERROR')..

This is just an example. The 3rd one is not critical, but would be nice.

I want to be able to add it to practically any circuit which will
provide
audible confirmation of the circuit's current operation. I was thinking
of
using a PIC to do this, but is last resort (as I know absolutely nothing
about them).

Has anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks.


Use a PIC. The learning curve will be worth it, and as you want to add it
to
'practically any circuit' you will later appreciate the flexibility.

Cheers.

Ken
 
Evolution is the creed of imbeciles, who like that Darwin Filth
beuuuulieved in Glaciations & Uniformism !
Creationists are miracle prone, but have something common to the
Evolutionists, and this precisely their propensity to believe in miracles !
The miracle of the Gros Boum ( Big Bang ) , the miracle of beuuulieving
things started from nothing and kept filling some type of infinite Universe
since Zillions of yearzzz ...speeding, the further we look , at near the
speed of light !!!
Pauvres & Infantilles Crétins scientifiques

The miracles of Sci0000nce on the one hand and the miracles of the Biball
fraud on the other hand !!!
L'esprit infantille de l'Humanité dans toute sa splendeur !
The childish mind of Humanity in all its splendor !

I would say that the Creationists are still one pace ahead of the other
Dudes masquerading as Geologists, this is their questioning of the Time
Column, and proving it is false then , and further still they right
understanding that life ( from the Atoms to the Galaxy ) is not due to
halfhazard construction !

Gould was further an imbecile, and the way he died indicates it ! Indeed he
died relatively young and of easy controlled type of disease ( cancer) Hence
someone who is not even able to master the basic Laws of Life, has indeed
not understood a thing in the whole construction of it.

I personally believe Humanity and its abode the Earth is akin to a piggery !
The louder they squeal _ and particularly those Universilities brainwashed
scientists _ the more they have a chance to be heard ! ... and this is
indeed the name of the game for all those Goys ( no chosen race anymore
since 2 centuries ) ; to be heard, to be known, to be praised, to leave
their worthless name & worthless work to posterity ( which never cares ) and
cark it in the belief they reached the ultimate in modernity & knowledge.
The reality is indeed quite different with a complete inversion of such, as
demonstrated by the UPL ( Universal Pressure Law )

.... and as said that Great Frenchman, Monsieur Le Comte Denis de St Germain
Quote
Rien gardait l'équilibre et servait de soutien
The Void was keeping Equilibrium and sustaining all
Endquote

Que du Zénith au Nadir le Nom du Grand Tout soit glorifié.
Que la Connaissance soit exaltée dans ses intussusceptions inscrutables

--
Jean-Paul Turcaud
True Geologist
Founder of the True Geology

~~ Ignorance Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Never Forgiven ! ~~




"Carsten Troelsgaard" <carsten.troelsgaard@mail.dk> a écrit dans le message
de news: 439ad259$0$1776$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk...
Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki - a critic of
Christian fundamentalism who had until recently intended to teach
intelligent design as mythology - was beaten Monday morning by two men who
had been following him in a pickup truck. Mirecki said that his attackers
"made references" to his recent notoriety. "I didn't know them," he said,
"but I'm sure they knew me."

http://www.dailykos.com/tag/Paul%20Mirecki

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I fell across this article in "The Geological Record", a quarterly
publication under SEPM (The Society for Sedimenary Geology) and thought it
could be of interest to those that needs a little brush-up.

Carsten

http://www.sepm.org/sedrecord/SR%203-3.pdf

"Contemplating the evisceration of the
Kansas science standards in 1999, Stephen Jay
Gould wrote, "Evolution is not a peripheral
subject but the central organizing principle of
all biological science. No one who has not
read the Bible or the Bard can be considered
educated in Western traditions; so no one
ignorant of evolution can understand science"
(Gould 1999). Geoscientists who, like Gould,
recognize the importance of evolution to scientific
literacy ought to bear the famous
admonition of Margaret Mead in mind:
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful,
committed citizens can change the world."
It is a maxim that creationists have taken to
heart: it is a maxim that scientists ought to
take to heart, too. Only by standing together
to promote and defend the teaching of evolution
in the public schools can the scientific
community hope to make a difference."
 
You could have three "one shots" use a 555 timer but the 555 is limited by
how you could use it at a "one shot"
so "one shots 1" goes for one second
so "one shots 2" goes for two seconds
so "one shots 3" goes for three seconds
then you AND those outputs with a 1/2 second oscillator going to a *pizo*
buzzer or use the outputs to turn on a oscillator
will that is the rough idea, will need fine tuning and there is mostly one
more problem that needs to be ironed out.

Of course it would be good to learn about a PIC then if you wanted say
different frequency beeps just a case of changing the program.




Jason S <jst3712@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:43997335_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
I need to make a circuit that will produce either one, two or three short
consecutive beeps depending on the input signal it recieves.
For example:

Input 1 = One beep (could mean 'ON').
Input 2 = Two beeps (could mean 'OFF').
Input 3 = Three beeps (could mean 'ERROR')..

This is just an example. The 3rd one is not critical, but would be nice.

I want to be able to add it to practically any circuit which will provide
audible confirmation of the circuit's current operation. I was thinking of
using a PIC to do this, but is last resort (as I know absolutely nothing
about them).

Has anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks.
 
"paul packer" <packer@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:439a9726.916128@news.iprimus.com.au...
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 01:32:46 GMT, "Trevor Wilson"


Thanks for this comprehensive reply, Trevor.
**My pleasure.

I love all this
background stuff. I'm not at all sure you answered the apparent
inconsistency I pointed out in your original post (how a company can
lose "significant sales to competitive products" when people are
buying their product as before); indeed I think you supported the
opposite viewpoint, that a company can ride on the back of its former
glory for a long time thanks to people not bothering to listen before
purchase.
**Not really. There is a time lag between when people finally work out that
a company has gone 'off the rails' (and most do).

It's also interesting that you modified "sounded like crap"
to "extremely average sound quality".
**Mea culpa. I am guilty of hyperbole every now and again.

Given the vagaries of component
matching, I can well imagine very average sound quality passing muster
with most non-enthusiasts, whereas "crap" one would expect to be
discovered as such relatively quickly.
**Good point. I guess what I was attempting to get it is that NAD was
building genuine 'budget high end' products, before the introduction of
their Power Envelope stuff.

I do still feel that you have a
tendency to hyperbole that undermines your credibility and sometimes
causes friction;
**Er, yes and no. I am perfectly consistent with my comments. I don't see
that damaging credibility at all. If I were to start selling (say) SET amps,
then THAT would damage my credibility.

given the extent of your experience and knowledge I'd
rather you curbed that and gave us the less extreme version of your
opinions in the future (just a thought).
**Fair point. I may just consider that as a reasonable idea.

I still don't buy it that NAD
went downhill during the 90s due to some obscure design flaw in their
products ("PE"). They did probably lose some ground with the
relatively uninspiring 302/304--312/314 amp line, but then quickly
made up for that with the 320/340 line, on up to the current 320BEE.
**And yet, they've ceased building PE technology into their products. If it
was such a brilliant idea, they'd keep doing it.

Not sure I understand your anecdote of the NAD2200. "Customer turns
amplifier up to the point of clipping (400 Watts)." Why would anyone
in their right mind do that?
**Not all listeners are sane.

And why would anyone who did, not deserve
whatever they got?
**We al listen at different levels. Many times I've had to leave the room
during a demo, because the music was too loud for my tastes.


"The listener, whose ears are suffering from
continuous high level audio, cannot hear the massive clipping and the
tweeters are destroyed." Indeed, along with the listener's and most of
the neighbours ears as well, I'd imagine. I don't see that NAD can be
in any way to blame for idiotic users--I certainly wouldn't have fixed
their speakers under warranty. I would have given them a good
dressing-down, but after all that they probably wouldn't have heard
me.
**You missed the point. KEF 104.2 tweeters almost never failed during
warranty. The only time they did, was when connected to a NAD 220 amplifier.
The problem is that gross clipping can occur without warning, with the 2200.
Regular amps provide warning of distress, before gross clipping occurs.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
How could that be I understand you first posting better than I understand
this on

I don't seem to get Mr. Allisons postings any more I wonder why??


He must of got up my tit once before, I think aa you have had your leg
pulled by one jerk off with a social problem.


aa <nospamtomeplease@tiscali.dk> wrote in message
news:43996175$0$67259$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk...
Mr. Allisons delightful post fortunately helped me realize that my message
may not have been simple and clear enough as to be understood by everybody,
so I would like to add:

It is a wireless phone and the caller ID is within the handset. I would
like to see who is calling where-ever I have the handset, for example at the
other end of the house or in the garden (far away from my old standalone
DMTF ID-caller unit). Thus the new phone's built-in caller-ID display is
unusable here, since the caller ID system her in Denmark is DMTF, as opposed
to Bellcore FSK system of the new phone. The difference in Caller ID systems
in different countries is the reason why converters exist, and also why the
configuration of IP-adapters like for example Sipura and Grandstream 486
have an option for selecting the relevant Caller ID-system. But I mostly use
this new phone for traditional landline calls that does not go through the
IP-adapter's configuration system, and thus those calls go unaffected by the
adapters settings.

So if someone knows how to solve this, be it with information about where to
buy the converter or other, I would be grateful.


P.



"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> skrev i en meddelelse
news:3vqnqoF1788veU1@individual.net...
"aa" <nospamtomeplease@tiscali.dk

Dear clever folks;


** Pocket pisser......


I live in Denmark have a bought a fine American telephone.


** Really.

How fucking amazing !!!!

Some Saab paddling wop buys a Yankee model phone that is ILLEGAL to use in
Denmark.



The Caller ID function doesn't work, since we use a different system
here. (America uses Bellcore FSK, Denmark uses DMTF).


** Huh ?

Caller ID works independently of the phone.

Get a display unit for a few Krone anywhere ....




........ Phil
 
"Eric" <eric@home.net> wrote in message news:439bb2d6@clear.net.nz...
How could that be I understand you first posting better than I understand
this on

** Baaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh ....... baaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh .....


I don't seem to get Mr. Allisons postings any more I wonder why??

** LOL - this Eric sheep shagger never got them at any time.


He must of got up my tit once before,

** ROTFL


Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhrrrrrrrrffffffff.




........... Phil
 
On 2005-12-11, Eric <eric@home.net> wrote:
It is a wireless phone and the caller ID is within the handset. I would
like to see who is calling where-ever I have the handset, for example at the
other end of the house or in the garden (far away from my old standalone
DMTF ID-caller unit). Thus the new phone's built-in caller-ID display is
unusable here, since the caller ID system her in Denmark is DMTF, as opposed
to Bellcore FSK system of the new phone. The difference in Caller ID systems
in different countries is the reason why converters exist, and also why the
DMTF what's that?

DTMF? DPSK?

Bye.
Jasen
 
Not all French boys are as smart as me and not all are as dumb, but
what I say is true because I am the founder of the treu Geology,
everyone who says anything different to my sayings is WONG! I say
again, if you say anything which I don't agree to it is WONG! Therefore
I will not look at any of your posts because they are WONG!

--
Jean-Paul Turcaud
True fake Geologist
Founder of the fake Geology


~~ Ignoring my messages Is The Cosmic Sin, The One Forgiven ! ~~
 
Oooops! You're absolutely right. Thanks for drawing my attention to
it. I really will have to pay more attention. :)
It would still be great if he'd take his medicine and become
dormant again. Or preferably go and visit Villiers Bretonneux and tell
everyone there what a bunch of toads all Australians are, and how he
wishes us all dead, so we'd never hear from him again. :)

Bob



On 11 Dec 2005 04:27:15 -0800, "Aielyn" <GJO1984@gmail.com> wrote:

Bob Parker wrote:
It is truly reassuring that you founded the TREU Geology, and that
anyone who for any reason thinks differently to you is WONG. I assume
that you think they are Chinese.
Please start taking your medicine again, so that we might have some
peace from your "treuths"....
On 11 Dec 2005 03:39:25 -0800, "Jean-Paul Turcaud" <rherkes@gmail.com
wrote:

Not all French boys are as smart as me and not all are as dumb, but
what I say is true because I am the founder of the treu Geology,
everyone who says anything different to my sayings is WONG! I say
again, if you say anything which I don't agree to it is WONG! Therefore
I will not look at any of your posts because they are WONG!

Just thought I'd let you know - that wasn't from the REAL Jean-Paul
Turcaud. It was a great imitation, though. Took a moment for me to
realise it wasn't him, despite the "True fake geology" bit at the end.

Had my hopes up for a second - I thought that JPT was just doing a
massive hoax with his UPL crap. It scares me that he's serious.
 
Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2005-12-09, Jordan <jwprincic@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

- There's a small delay, but not as long as it takes to give a hand signal.


that can be fixed by connecting the timing capacitor to the VCC pin instead
of to ground. a diode from ground to the timing pins might be a good idea too
in case this capacitor configuration is outside of

|
|
+-/\/\-----------(---------+
| | |
| +---------+ |
| | | |
| || | . . . .|. . . . |
+--||--+ . VCC(8) . |
| || | . . |
| +---RES(4) OUT(3)---+---
| . 555 .
+------+---TH(6) DIS(7)--
| . .
+---TR(2) CV(5)--
| . .
| . GND(1) .
| . . . .|. . . .
| |
| |
+---|<----+
|
|

initially-low astable

Well, I tried reconnecting the capacitor as per your suggestion, but
without the diode (or resistor?), and it works a treat.
Now, she starts flashing "on" immediately upon switching.
The first flash is very slightly longer in duration - no worries.

Thanks heaps

Jordan
 
"Tom"
Phil Allison wrote:
"Phil Allison"


** It's un-stuffed.

........ Phil

I've noticed that, perhaps they lurk in here?


** They used to watch every post that mentioned " Jaycar ".

Sometimes a staffer replied.

Sometimes one emailed the poster.

All very intimidating.



......... Phil
 

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