PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

Melvyn T Phillips <melvyn@g7onh.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
message news:408C4A82.7010702@g7onh.fsnet.co.uk...

I wish you would all learn to LIVE AND LET LIVE...
I wish you would take Comprehension 101 a few hundred
times and realise that what was being discussed was
how much morse gets used today and not whether those
tho like it are welcome to use it as much as they like.

if people wish to use MORSE...let them use it.
How does MORSE feel about being used ?

Does he end up feeling a bit tacky afterwards ?

I don't use Morse, but it doesn't bother me if others do.
Rather pathetic, really.


Marty wrote:
"zpk" <bo_pkearn_selecta@multi-band-cb-is-here-10-4.eircom.ru.br.net> wrote
in message news:408a9d2b.33701333@news1.eircom.net...

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:32:17 -0700, "Incognito" <BLB@sero.net> wrote:


My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham bands is not dead as the a

poster

implied.

not as dead as some appear to want it to be.



Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity, it wont
be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too much
trouble....

Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't consider morse to be that
important anymore????
 
"Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote in message news:CdYic.5807$_s.167009@news.xtra.co.nz...
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6hg3c$c5q65$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de...

Binary Era <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:plqm801r0b91klvvar5h85ivashiq78kud@4ax.com...
Rod Speed wrote
Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

I think your thinking is too narrow.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of rational thought.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night
from its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just
outside the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

They dont use semaphore.

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand
signals, carrier pigeons, and a whole raft of
non-electronic communications aids are used,

More fool you. Only hand singles are.

(Not married ones, Rod? :)
This is no laughing matter, boy.

*At night*? Do you guys light yourselves up first so your party
(and the enemy) can see you do the hokey-pokey, smoke a
bong and release the hounds - I mean, carrier pigeons - first?
Yeah, thats why they are doing so badly in Iraq, stupid.

This is a mildly amusing thread, but this
sub-thread is well into the ridiculous.
You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all. Ever.

And dont you forget it.
 
The Real Andy wrote:

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night from
its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just outside
the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

Every heard of battery powered radio's?
Oh dear.....

--
Binary Era
 
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:c6hg81$bs6vs$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de:

Beloved Leader <Kim_Jong_Il@volcanomail.com> wrote in message
news:26a0f230.0404251030.bb2a042@posting.google.com...
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

Lifeguards.

Bullshit. That aint semaphore.

Lifeguards use hand signals, a different thing entirely.
Over here they are called coastguards, coastwatch and the RNLI. The signals
they use are called "landing signals". The differ somewhat from semaphore,
but the principal is the same.

YG
 
"Fat Crack Ho" <s363281@student.uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:c6328r$1i0$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au...
I've just bought a JBS air conditioner. The wiring is such that the power
lead
runs into the head and from the head to the compressor. In general with
the
majority of split systems, is it possible to run a dedicated 3 core power
cable
to the compressor and simply connect the control cable between the head
and
compressor?

The reason I ask is that the compressor is going to be mounted about 1m
away
from my meter box. This will save me the hassle of getting a dedicated
circuit
installed in my bedroom for the air con if only the head is running out of
the
GPO.
You have to run the control cable and gas pipes between the compressor and
head unit. Just mount a weatherproof GPO outside and run the power flex from
the head unit out with the control wire, break it out of the duct near the
GPO and voila! Bob's your uncle.

But if you do it yourself you are being naughty and you'll need a
certificate from a licenced installer to make any future waranty claim.

WR
 
Binary Era <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:n3cp80lu01mm23v2e172jpfja1oa2mj8k2@4ax.com...
Rod Speed wrote:

THE USE OF THOSE FOR FUN.

I don't remember the 'FUN' requirement,
SURE you dont, arsehole.

could you repost it for me?
It was in the quoting you just carefully deleted, fuckwit.
 
Geoff <geoff@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns94D76F816753geoffmailnews@158.152.254.254...
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Beloved Leader <Kim_Jong_Il@volcanomail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

Lifeguards.

Bullshit. That aint semaphore.

Lifeguards use hand signals, a different thing entirely.

Over here they are called coastguards, coastwatch and the RNLI. The signals
they use are called "landing signals". The differ somewhat from semaphore,
They are nothing like semaphone.

but the principal is the same.
Crap. Semaphore spells out the message letter
by letter, like morse does, but using arms/flags etc.

Signal flags are nothing like semaphore
either and are still used to some extent.
 
On Monday 26 Apr 2004 23:54, the murky waters churned and seethed, the dark
weeds parted and the water took on the sinister, shifting visage of Rod
Speed. The great maw opened and the following was heard:

Signal flags are nothing like semaphore
either and are still used to some extent.
That's it, you've done it now. He's got to run the "D" up the flagstaff, or
possibly the "N" and "C" combination.

:eek:)

--
MattD..
mattd145 <at> onetel <dot> com
 
Geoff <geoff@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns94D8438D86A85geoffmailnews@158.152.254.254...
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Geoff <geoff@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Beloved Leader <Kim_Jong_Il@volcanomail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

Lifeguards.

Bullshit. That aint semaphore.

Lifeguards use hand signals, a different thing entirely.

Over here they are called coastguards, coastwatch
and the RNLI. The signals they use are called "landing
signals". The differ somewhat from semaphore,

They are nothing like semaphone.

but the principal is the same.

Crap. Semaphore spells out the message letter
by letter, like morse does, but using arms/flags etc.

Signal flags are nothing like semaphore
either and are still used to some extent.

Actually, landing signals are NOT flag signals.
Never said they were. The word either is there for a reason.

Like semaphore, they MAY use flags, or even
lights, but that is for convenience, not meaning.
Completely irrelevant to whether they are semaphore.

I DO know what semaphore is, as I do know what
landing signals are, something that you obviously do not.
We'll see.

Please do not confuse either with the international
code of signals, which is a letter code, using one,
two or three letters to convey a meaning.
Wasnt even being discussed.

These letters may be passed by morse (sound or light
signalling), semaphore or by international code flags.
And like I originally asked, I doubt anyone is
bothering with semaphore FOR FUN anymore.

Semaphore signals are given here :
http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/semaphore.html
No news to me boy.

Landing signals : <http://www.fedpubs.com/subject/boat/life_saving.htm
Clearly nothing to do with semaphore, as I said.

And that is a stupid reference,
http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/signals.pdf
is much more useful.

The international code of signals (Flags):
http://flagspot.net/flags/flagicsa.html> et al

The International code of signals (meanings):
http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/pubs/pubs_j_show_sections.html?
dpath=ICOS&ptid=7&rid=1466
All completely irrelevant to whether lifesaving signals are semaphore.

The above are international in meaning. Various navies had (still have?)
their own private codes, hence the "international code" flag.
All completely irrelevant to whether lifesaving signals are semaphore.

In semaphore, a particular arm (or flag)
position, indicates a certain character,
No news to me boy.

in landing signals, which incidentally are nothing to do with aircraft,
a certain arm (or flag) position indicates a defined meaning.
So aint semaphore, stupid.

You may also wish to know that morse code may
be sent by flag, in a similar manner to semaphore.
Aint relevant to what is being discussed,
whether lifeguards use semaphore. They dont.

However, semaphore is the more efficient code
requiring only one flag movement, whereas morse
will typically require several flag movements.
More completely irrelevant waffle. Nothing to do with that stupid
claim you made about lifeguards still using semaphore. They dont.
 
Rod Speed wrote:

Binary Era wrote
Rod Speed wrote:

THE USE OF THOSE FOR FUN.

I don't remember the 'FUN' requirement,

SURE you dont, arsehole.

could you repost it for me?

It was in the quoting you just carefully deleted, fuckwit.
It was, but the reference was by someone else and referred to using
the Longbow. It was not used in your reply, which was what I commented
on. I refer you to your last comment above. HAND

--
Binary Era
 
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:c6k3uf$cvg5n$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de:

Geoff <geoff@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns94D76F816753geoffmailnews@158.152.254.254...
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Beloved Leader <Kim_Jong_Il@volcanomail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

Lifeguards.

Bullshit. That aint semaphore.

Lifeguards use hand signals, a different thing entirely.

Over here they are called coastguards, coastwatch and the RNLI. The
signals they use are called "landing signals". The differ somewhat
from semaphore,

They are nothing like semaphone.

but the principal is the same.

Crap. Semaphore spells out the message letter
by letter, like morse does, but using arms/flags etc.

Signal flags are nothing like semaphore
either and are still used to some extent.
Actually, landing signals are NOT flag signals. Like semaphore, they MAY
use flags, or even lights, but that is for convenience, not meaning.

I DO know what semaphore is, as I do know what landing signals are,
something that you obviously do not. Please do not confuse either with
the international code of signals, which is a letter code, using one, two
or three letters to convey a meaning. These letters may be passed by
morse (sound or light signalling), semaphore or by international code
flags.

Semaphore signals are given here :
<http://www.anbg.gov.au/flags/semaphore.html>

Landing signals : <http://www.fedpubs.com/subject/boat/life_saving.htm>

The international code of signals (Flags):
<http://flagspot.net/flags/flagicsa.html> et al

The International code of signals (meanings):
<http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/pubs/pubs_j_show_sections.html?
dpath=ICOS&ptid=7&rid=1466>

The above are international in meaning. Various navies had (still have?)
their own private codes, hence the "international code" flag.

In semaphore, a particular arm (or flag) position, indicates a certain
character, in landing signals, which incidentally are nothing to do with
aircraft, a certain arm (or flag) position indicates a defined meaning.

You may also wish to know that morse code may be sent by flag, in a
similar manner to semaphore. However, semaphore is the more efficient
code requiring only one flag movement, whereas morse will typically
require several flag movements.

YG
 
Binary Era <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:ajvr80d5e78c19t1uutnuja98ouli0ro4u@4ax.com...
Rod Speed wrote:
Binary Era wrote
Rod Speed wrote:

THE USE OF THOSE FOR FUN.

I don't remember the 'FUN' requirement,

SURE you dont, arsehole.

could you repost it for me?

It was in the quoting you just carefully deleted, fuckwit.

It was, but the reference was by someone
else and referred to using the Longbow.
And that is what I commented on, fuckwit.

It was not used in your reply,
Wrong. That is obviously what I commented on, fuckwit.

which was what I commented on.
Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of your
predicament better than that pathetic effort, fuckwit.

I refer you to your last comment above. HAND
GASYHUADBB, fuckwit.
 
Rod Speed wrote:

GASYHUADBB, fuckwit.
Oh dear. I was following netiquette and trimmed my reply to the points
you raised. As the thread was titled 'Uses of Morse code (Was Phonetic
Alphabet Tables)' that's what I limited my reply to. Don't you have
netiquette in your country?.....Let's see .... dot au .... nope, that
let's you out. Sorry. And I see you're following the current strategy
of a superpower: bad language isn't working, so let's have more bad
language.

Goodbye!

--
Binary Era
 
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More exactly PIG brother...
 
stuff snipped to make it shorter
.. Just mount a weatherproof GPO outside and run the power flex from
the head unit out with the control wire, break it out of the duct near the
GPO and voila! Bob's your uncle.

But if you do it yourself you are being naughty and you'll need a
certificate from a licenced installer to make any future waranty claim.

WR
Usually a lockable isolation switch is installed near to where the
compressor is to be mounted (the outside bit). These are usually
weather proof switches which a padlock or tag can be put inside so it
can be locked off for servicing. Small aircons, like 1 hp or less
often seem to be just plugged into a normal power point, running
current is less than 5 amps. Most single phase split system aircons
come with a cord and plug but around here this is usually cut off and
the unit hard wired to an isolation switch.

Running a few metres of single phase cable isn't very difficult or
expensive, just has to go where it has to go or you'll end up with a
crappy installation :)

The airconditioners ive seen installed state the power requirements in
the instruction book and recommended circuit breaker size.

You could DIY it but its a lot of messing around and you probably dont
want to break it. Theres a few tricks with them too which only come
from experience.

cheers
James
 
On 27 Apr 2004 04:49:30 -0700, j.l@octa4.net.au (James) wrote:
<snipped>
You could DIY it but its a lot of messing around and you probably dont
want to break it. Theres a few tricks with them too which only come
from experience.

cheers
James
Hello James,
I would like to know the tricks. Please don't keep them to yourself.
Regards,
John Crighton
Hornsby
 
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in news:c6ktqo$d9a0g$1@ID-
69072.news.uni-berlin.de:

More completely irrelevant waffle. Nothing to do with that stupid
claim you made about lifeguards still using semaphore. They dont.
Where did I say that? What I said was "The signals they (the lifeguard
equivalents) use are called "landing signals". They differ somewhat from
semaphore, but the principal is the same."

In that they are both waving arms/flags etc. about they are the same, but
the meaning of the movements are quite different. Particular arm positions
in semaphore mean different characters, unlike landing signals, where each
"arm position" means a different action should be taken.

YG
 
"see sea oh ecks at you aitch see dot comm" <spammers@bugger.off.invalid>
wrote in message news:c6m94u$kbv$1@gabriel.uhc.com...
In uk.radio.amateur Marty Wallace <mart@geo.net.au> wrote:
Learning morse these days is largely an academic exercise, a bit like
learning Latin. Ok, maybe you'll get to talk to the pope one day but the
reality is that every one has moved on.

Actually, to keep this in context, who the hell cares whether other
radio services still use Morse code regularly or not. We in the
Amateur Service DO still use it regularly. Surely that is what is
of significance, n'est pas?

Well, it is more significant than which other services use it. However, that
we use it was never the basis for it being an international requirement.

SO, no matter how you argue, there hasn't been a real reason to keep Morse
as a requirement for years.

Of course, our Irish friend will jump in now and ask about the Morse
Appreciation. For his benefit, I will say I don't see the reason for
maintaining it either but have better things to concern myself with than
worrying about it. If he sees it as an 'issue' let him argue for its
removal.

--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio
 
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 19:45:10 +0100, "Brian Reay"
<brian.reay@bigfoot.com> wrote:

radio services still use Morse code regularly or not. We in the
Amateur Service DO still use it regularly. Surely that is what is
of significance, n'est pas?
as someone was told in the early 1990;s at an iaru meeting...

amateur radio is not marine radio.
if the maritime service wish to drop morse then thats their business.

vote called... proposor of drop-morse-in-199x was disappointed with
the vote.


also. itu publication on morse requirement also sated no-service
uses it.



Well, it is more significant than which other services use it. However, that
we use it was never the basis for it being an international requirement.

SO, no matter how you argue, there hasn't been a real reason to keep Morse
as a requirement for years.

Of course, our Irish friend will jump in now and ask about the Morse
Appreciation.
For his benefit, I will say I don't see the reason for
maintaining it either but have better things to concern myself
hmmmmm thats strange...
i suppose job done..no poiint in writing letters to the ra/rsgb
anymore about getting rid of the NONSENSE REQUIREMENT ????????
youre on record as stating it to be kept for all new licencsees.


with than
worrying about it. If he sees it as an 'issue' let him argue for its
removal.
REMOVAL !!!

NOT ON YOUR NELLY.

I SAY 12WPM FOR HF OR STAY ON VHF.

NONE OF THIS NAMBY PAMBY STUFF.

IF I CAN PASS 12WPM (THE SECOND TIME) THEN ANYONE WHO THINKS
THEYRE BETTER THAN ME CAN PASS IT (ON THE FIRST TIME??)
 

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