PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Brian Reay]

"Marty" <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote in message
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"zpk" <bo_pkearn_selecta@multi-band-cb-is-here-10-4.eircom.ru.br.net
wrote
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:32:17 -0700, "Incognito" <BLB@sero.net> wrote:


My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham bands is not dead as the a
poster
implied.

not as dead as some appear to want it to be.


Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity, it
wont
be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too much
trouble....

I hope not. I wouldn't like to see CW 'die'.

Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't consider morse to be that
important anymore????

That doesn't mean people won't want to use it for fun. The Longbow was
rendered obsolete 500+ years back but still has its adherents.

--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

 

[exray]

Brian Reay wrote:

That doesn't mean people won't want to use it for fun. The Longbow was
rendered obsolete 500+ years back but still has its adherents.

Don't get me wrong because I'm a Morse fan...no mic in my shack.
But they don't require testing for longbow skills when you order meat at
the butcher.

There's been anti-CW people going back to about 1930 when it had already
been declared "obsolete". And there will continue to be complaints when
any moron can obtain a licence (oh, thats already happened). That has
always been true albeit in different degrees. The ham community
screamed bloody foul when the ARRL institued "incentive" licensing. Now
they're screaming foul because there isn't "incentive" licensing.

I'm all in favor of no-code HF licensing as long as they don't hand over
the CW-only bands in the process.

In the US anyway, with the watering down of the requirements I really am
suspect of anybody still whining about having to do a couple of hours of
no-brainer study to obtain an Extra Class licence. On a skill level its
about like knowing how to cook rice.

-BM

 

[Hercules Smackbottom]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 21:15:18 -0400, exray <dontspammeexray@coqui.net> wrote:

Brian Reay wrote:
In the US anyway, with the watering down of the requirements I really am
suspect of anybody still whining about having to do a couple of hours of
no-brainer study to obtain an Extra Class licence. On a skill level its
about like knowing how to cook rice.

I hold an extra class license but I don't have a clue how to cook rice.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Brian Reay" <brian.reay@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:c6er4h$bffcb$1@ID-140397.news.uni-berlin.de...

"Marty" <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote in message
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"zpk" <bo_pkearn_selecta@multi-band-cb-is-here-10-4.eircom.ru.br.net
wrote
in message news:408a9d2b.33701333@news1.eircom.net...
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:32:17 -0700, "Incognito" <BLB@sero.net> wrote:


My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham bands is not dead as the a
poster
implied.

not as dead as some appear to want it to be.


Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity, it
wont
be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too much
trouble....

I hope not. I wouldn't like to see CW 'die'.


Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't consider morse to be that
important anymore????

That doesn't mean people won't want to use it for fun. The Longbow
was rendered obsolete 500+ years back but still has its adherents.

You dont see too many still bothering with smoke
signals, carrier pigeons, pony express, etc etc etc tho.

Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.

 

[Brian Reay]

"exray" <dontspammeexray@coqui.net> wrote in message
news:108m46el6j8d74d@corp.supernews.com...

That doesn't mean people won't want to use it for fun. The Longbow was
rendered obsolete 500+ years back but still has its adherents.

Don't get me wrong because I'm a Morse fan...no mic in my shack.
But they don't require testing for longbow skills when you order meat at
the butcher.

Good point, in line with my own views.

There's been anti-CW people going back to about 1930 when it had already
been declared "obsolete".

I'm not sure anti-CW is always the correct term- it suggests people want to
'ban' CW. I don't actually ever recall anyone suggesting that. If they did,
I won't support it.

And there will continue to be complaints when
any moron can obtain a licence (oh, thats already happened).
That has always been true albeit in different degrees.

Been happening here for years- even when we had a written exam and
compulsory CW test for ANY licence. Probably the 'worst' period of behaviour
in the UK hobby was the mid / late 70s- at which time there was still the
written exam.

The ham community
screamed bloody foul when the ARRL institued "incentive" licensing. Now
they're screaming foul because there isn't "incentive" licensing.

Odd, we have the same.

I'm all in favor of no-code HF licensing as long as they don't hand over
the CW-only bands in the process.

Agreed 100%

In the US anyway, with the watering down of the requirements I really am
suspect of anybody still whining about having to do a couple of hours of
no-brainer study to obtain an Extra Class licence. On a skill level its
about like knowing how to cook rice.

I've not heard anyone 'whining' about wanting to get the UK equivalent,
having gone through the other stages. Quite the converse.

I've got a batch of amateurs taking the UK Advanced exam on Monday- we are
already looking for things to study next. Morse is on the list of
possibles. (even though it isn't required any more here), as is taking the
US exams.


--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

 

[Binary Era]

Rod Speed wrote:

You dont see too many still bothering with smoke
signals, carrier pigeons, pony express, etc etc etc tho.

Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.

I think your thinking is too narrow.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night from
its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just outside
the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand signals, carrier
pigeons, and a whole raft of non-electronic communications aids are
used, including morse lamps and semaphore.

Signallers are prized members of such specialist groups.

--
Binary Era

 

[Brian Reay]

"Binary Era" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
newslqm801r0b91klvvar5h85ivashiq78kud@4ax.com...

Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.


I think your thinking is too narrow.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night from
its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just outside
the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand signals, carrier
pigeons, and a whole raft of non-electronic communications aids are
used, including morse lamps and semaphore.

Signallers are prized members of such specialist groups.

All seems a bit extreme to get into a rally before the doors open. Why not
just stand in front of a Landrover and break a leg?

--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

 

[Binary Era]

Brian Reay wrote:

"Binary Era" wrote
Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.


I think your thinking is too narrow.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night from
its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just outside
the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand signals, carrier
pigeons, and a whole raft of non-electronic communications aids are
used, including morse lamps and semaphore.

Signallers are prized members of such specialist groups.

All seems a bit extreme to get into a rally before the doors open. Why not
just stand in front of a Landrover and break a leg?

I thought that bit came later, after the fried breakfast then being
run over by the wheelchairs? I'm not sure where the fettled casting
comes in all this action......

--
Binary Era

 

[Brian Reay]

"Binary Era" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:dgsm80tbnrq4obl1pmdvbfvk3mkkcpi68b@4ax.com...

All seems a bit extreme to get into a rally before the doors open. Why
not
just stand in front of a Landrover and break a leg?

I thought that bit came later, after the fried breakfast then being
run over by the wheelchairs? I'm not sure where the fettled casting
comes in all this action......

Well, some people always have to be different, re-defining physical
definitions (eg definition of power, time, the dB etc), maybe they decided
to do this differently.

Stick a good casting on a good leg, then "fettle" both. Think of the
benefits, broken leg (gets you into the rallies and an excuse not to work),
a ruined casting to throw in the bin, and something to moan about. "Win Win"
;-)


--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

 

[Binary Era]

Brian Reay wrote:

Well, some people always have to be different, re-defining physical
definitions (eg definition of power, time, the dB etc), maybe they decided
to do this differently.

Stick a good casting on a good leg, then "fettle" both. Think of the
benefits, broken leg (gets you into the rallies and an excuse not to work),
a ruined casting to throw in the bin, and something to moan about. "Win Win"
;-)

LOL!

--
Binary Era

 

[Geoff]

"Marty" <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote in
news:c6eoso$iu3$1@austar-news.austar.net.au:

"zpk" <bo_pkearn_selecta@multi-band-cb-is-here-10-4.eircom.ru.br.net
wrote in message news:408a9d2b.33701333@news1.eircom.net...
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:32:17 -0700, "Incognito" <BLB@sero.net> wrote:


My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham bands is not dead as the
a
poster
implied.

not as dead as some appear to want it to be.


Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity,
it wont be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too
much trouble....

No, I think that there is a use for morse code and some amateurs will
still use it, as I do. It still has use as a simple weak signal mode.

Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't consider morse to be that
important anymore????

Probably not.


YG

 

[Beloved Leader]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<c6fbl7$b1m75$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de>...

Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.

Lifeguards.

 

[zpk]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:13:25 +1000, "Marty"
<NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote:

Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity, it wont
be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too much
trouble....

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH.

another of predictions proven.



rsgb pse note.

 

[Rod Speed]

Binary Era <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
newslqm801r0b91klvvar5h85ivashiq78kud@4ax.com...

Rod Speed wrote
Brian Reay <brian.reay@bigfoot.com> wrote
Marty <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote
zpk <bo_pkearn_selecta@multi-band-cb-is-here-10-4.eircom.ru.br.net> wrote
Incognito <BLB@sero.net> wrote

My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham
bands is not dead as the a poster implied.

not as dead as some appear to want it to be.

Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no
longer a necessity, it wont be long before the new
generation of hams decide its all too much trouble....

I hope not. I wouldn't like to see CW 'die'.

Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't
consider morse to be that important anymore????

That doesn't mean people won't want to use it
for fun. The Longbow was rendered obsolete
500+ years back but still has its adherents.

You dont see too many still bothering with smoke
signals, carrier pigeons, pony express, etc etc etc tho.

Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

I think your thinking is too narrow.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of rational thought.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night
from its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just
outside the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

They dont use semaphore.

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand
signals, carrier pigeons, and a whole raft of
non-electronic communications aids are used,

More fool you. Only hand singles are.

And that's got absolutely NOTHING to do with what was
commented on there, THE USE OF THOSE FOR FUN.

including morse lamps and semaphore.

Bullshit.

Signallers are prized members of such specialist groups.

Got absolutely NOTHING to do with what was commented
on there, THE USE OF THOSE FOR FUN.

 

[Rod Speed]

Beloved Leader <Kim_Jong_Il@volcanomail.com> wrote in message news:26a0f230.0404251030.bb2a042@posting.google.com...

Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

Lifeguards.

Bullshit. That aint semaphore.

Lifeguards use hand signals, a different thing entirely.

 

[Melvyn T Phillips]

I wish you would all learn to LIVE AND LET LIVE...if people wish to use
MORSE...let them use it.
I don't use Morse, but it doesn't bother me if others do.

Mel.


Marty wrote:

"zpk" <bo_pkearn_selecta@multi-band-cb-is-here-10-4.eircom.ru.br.net> wrote
in message news:408a9d2b.33701333@news1.eircom.net...

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:32:17 -0700, "Incognito" <BLB@sero.net> wrote:


My post was to indicate that CW on the Ham bands is not dead as the a

poster

implied.

not as dead as some appear to want it to be.



Maybe not, but with the ITU saying that CW is no longer a necessity, it wont
be long before the new generation of hams decide its all too much
trouble....

Gee, wonder if that means that the ITU don't consider morse to be that
important anymore????

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6hg3c$c5q65$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de...

Binary Era <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
newslqm801r0b91klvvar5h85ivashiq78kud@4ax.com...
Rod Speed wrote
Does anyone bother with semaphore
anymore ? Spose some loons might.

I think your thinking is too narrow.

Not a shred of evidence that you are actually capable of rational thought.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night
from its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just
outside the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

They dont use semaphore.

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand
signals, carrier pigeons, and a whole raft of
non-electronic communications aids are used,

More fool you. Only hand singles are.

(Not married ones, Rod?
*At night*? Do you guys light yourselves up first so your party (and the
enemy) can see you do the hokey-pokey, smoke a bong and release the hounds -
I mean, carrier pigeons - first?

This is a mildly amusing thread, but this sub-thread is well into the
ridiculous.

Ken

 

[Hercules Smackbottom]

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:32:18 +0100, Melvyn T Phillips <melvyn@g7onh.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

I wish you would all learn to LIVE AND LET LIVE...if people wish to use
MORSE...let them use it.

Note that many hundreds of thousands of people still carry morse code receivers in their pockets.
When a SMS message arrives, their mobile phone beeps "... -- ..." (SMS).

 

[The Real Andy]

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 08:42:31 +0100, Binary Era <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:


You dont see too many still bothering with smoke
signals, carrier pigeons, pony express, etc etc etc tho.

Does anyone bother with semaphore anymore ? Spose some loons might.


I think your thinking is too narrow.

I think your thinking is non-existant.

When your assault group or raiding party is dropped off at night from
its parent group (operating in total electronic blackout) just outside
the enemy littoral, how do you think they all communicate?

Every heard of battery powered radio's?

I'll be willing to bet that smoke signals. hand signals, carrier
pigeons, and a whole raft of non-electronic communications aids are
used, including morse lamps and semaphore.

I'll be willing to bet they don't.

Signallers are prized members of such specialist groups.

Not these days.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Hercules Smackbottom" <wanker@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:1103_1082939638@Loud_Belch...

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 00:32:18 +0100, Melvyn T Phillips <melvyn@g7onh.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
I wish you would all learn to LIVE AND LET LIVE...if people wish to use
MORSE...let them use it.

Note that many hundreds of thousands of people still carry morse code receivers in their pockets.
When a SMS message arrives, their mobile phone beeps "... -- ..." (SMS).

And hardly any of them realise that and dont need to.