PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[N Cook]

"Marty" <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Geoff" <geoff@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Marty" <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote in
news:c648h9$gm4$1@austar-news.austar.net.au:

At the end of the day, as long as the message gets through OK, who
cares if its Alpha or Apple?????

The real point is, that if the correct phoenetics are used, there is a
good
chance that somebody who does not speak English, even as a secondary
language, will understand. Using Able, Apple or Archemedies rather than
Alpha will only serve to confuse. That is one of the (few) advantages
when
using the Q codes with CW.

YG

Granted, but I presume that as I only speak english I will most likely not
be speaking to someone that doesn't speak english at all...... and if I
do,
it will probably be a rather one sided conversation and phonetics will
most
likely be the least of our translation problems!! ;-)

Still, I am always amazed at the amateur operators that go to the trouble
of
learning the phonetic alphabet to pass the test, only to toss it all away
afterward and use their own version. Just hearing the different versions
on
air can get rather annoying!!!

I am not a radio amateur but I did learn the phonetic alphabet
because I was forever relaying model numbers etc via phone.
I did at one time regularly listen to GB2RS ,IIRC ,sunday mornings
and every week I would find it annoying ,
or at least dstracting, hearing S- for Sugar etc

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
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[Binary Era]

Marty wrote:

Still, I am always amazed at the amateur operators that go to the trouble of
learning the phonetic alphabet to pass the test, only to toss it all away
afterward and use their own version. Just hearing the different versions on
air can get rather annoying!!!

I grew up with Able Baker Charlie Dog when it was a live phonetic
alphabet.

Why should I change just because /you/ want all your toys in line?

--
Binary Era

 

[Brian Reay]

"Binary Era" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Marty wrote:

Still, I am always amazed at the amateur operators that go to the trouble
of
learning the phonetic alphabet to pass the test, only to toss it all away
afterward and use their own version. Just hearing the different versions
on
air can get rather annoying!!!

I grew up with Able Baker Charlie Dog when it was a live phonetic
alphabet.

Why should I change just because /you/ want all your toys in line?

I have to agree with you, I quite like to hear some of the variations in
Phonetic alphabet- they are analogous to the individual 'fist' of the CW
operator. Provided they are not abusive and when required (eg to assist a
foreign amateur) the OP reverts to the ITU standard, I can see no harm.


--
73
Brian
G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk for FREE training material for all UK
amateur radio licences
www.phoenixradioclub.org.uk - a RADIO club specifically for those wishing
to learn more about amateur radio

 

[Binary Era]

Brian Reay wrote:

"Binary Era" wrote

I grew up with Able Baker Charlie Dog when it was a live phonetic
alphabet.

Why should I change just because /you/ want all your toys in line?


I have to agree with you, I quite like to hear some of the variations in
Phonetic alphabet- they are analogous to the individual 'fist' of the CW
operator. Provided they are not abusive and when required (eg to assist a
foreign amateur) the OP reverts to the ITU standard, I can see no harm.

Quite. The whole point of phonetics is to facilitate communication. DX
stations sometimes use(d) a system loosely based on country names
(Ontario Santiago Norway, for example), but because that is the
alphabet they are using, it makes sense to use it in return rather
than switch to the Alpha Bravo....etc. It requires common sense rather
than rigid control, and is one of the skills one learns early on in
the HF game.

--
Binary Era

 

[Airy R. Bean]

Perhaps we could use a new phonetic alphabet, one that
would disambiguate those who were either too lazy or too
stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass the 12 WPM
Morse Test when it was available to them from _REAL_ Radio Hams?.....

A Didah
B Dahdididit
C Dahdidahdit
D Dahdidit
E Dit
F Dididahdit
G Dahdahdit
H Didididit
I Didit
J Didahdahdah
K Dahdidah
L DiDahdidit
M Dahdah
N Dahdit
O Dahdahdah
P Didahdahdit
Q Dahdahdidah
R Didahdit
S Dididit
T Dah
U Dididah
V Didididah
W Didahdah
X Dahdididah
Y Dahdidahdah
Z Dahdahdidit


"N Cook" <diverse2@tcp.co.antyspahm.uk> wrote in message
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"Peter Aberrant" <someone@zxy.com> wrote in message
news:4083f93d@clear.net.nz...
Phonetic Alphabet Tables
Useful for spelling words and names over the phone. cut out the
table
containing phonetic alphabet (below), and tape it to the side of your
phone
when you are on the telephone it could be some help. and post it to your
electronic email groups

 

[exray]

Airy R. Bean wrote:

Perhaps we could use a new phonetic alphabet, one that
would disambiguate those who were either too lazy or too
stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass the 12 WPM
Morse Test when it was available to them from _REAL_ Radio Hams?.....

A Didah
B Dahdididit
C Dahdidahdit
D Dahdidit
E Dit
F Dididahdit
G Dahdahdit
H Didididit
I Didit
J Didahdahdah
K Dahdidah
L DiDahdidit
M Dahdah
N Dahdit
O Dahdahdah
P Didahdahdit
Q Dahdahdidah
R Didahdit
S Dididit
T Dah
U Dididah
V Didididah
W Didahdah
X Dahdididah
Y Dahdidahdah
Z Dahdahdidit

Lets see a show of hands for those who checked this for mistakes!
I know of one
-Bill WX4A

 

[Marty Wallace]

"Airy R. Bean" <ariy.r.bean@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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Perhaps we could use a new phonetic alphabet, one that
would disambiguate those who were either too lazy or too
stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass the 12 WPM
Morse Test when it was available to them from _REAL_ Radio Hams?.....

A Didah
B Dahdididit
C Dahdidahdit
D Dahdidit
E Dit
F Dididahdit
G Dahdahdit
H Didididit
I Didit
J Didahdahdah
K Dahdidah
L DiDahdidit
M Dahdah
N Dahdit
O Dahdahdah
P Didahdahdit
Q Dahdahdidah
R Didahdit
S Dididit
T Dah
U Dididah
V Didididah
W Didahdah
X Dahdididah
Y Dahdidahdah
Z Dahdahdidit

The really stupid thing is that morse isn't used anywhere at all now except
in "HAM" radio license tests.
What's the point?

Marty

 

[Marty]

"Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> wrote in message
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"Airy R. Bean" <ariy.r.bean@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c66qi6$8pq6d$1@ID-217727.news.uni-berlin.de...
Perhaps we could use a new phonetic alphabet, one that
would disambiguate those who were either too lazy or too
stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass the 12 WPM
Morse Test when it was available to them from _REAL_ Radio Hams?.....

A Didah
B Dahdididit
C Dahdidahdit
D Dahdidit
E Dit
F Dididahdit
G Dahdahdit
H Didididit
I Didit
J Didahdahdah
K Dahdidah
L DiDahdidit
M Dahdah
N Dahdit
O Dahdahdah
P Didahdahdit
Q Dahdahdidah
R Didahdit
S Dididit
T Dah
U Dididah
V Didididah
W Didahdah
X Dahdididah
Y Dahdidahdah
Z Dahdahdidit


The really stupid thing is that morse isn't used anywhere at all now
except
in "HAM" radio license tests.
What's the point?

Marty

Aint used there in Australia now as well.....

The other Marty...

 

[exray]

Marty Wallace wrote:

The really stupid thing is that morse isn't used anywhere at all now except
in "HAM" radio license tests.
What's the point?

Marty

There's not much of a point. Thats why "HAM" radio licensing is slowly
but surely doing away with Morse as a requirement. But there's still
international agreements and requirements from the old days that still
have to be met...or acceptable workarounds have to be figgered out by
the local licensing authorities.

Its happening. Just not fast enough for many people. There are no-code
"HAM" licences in many countries, although they may not grant HF
privileges. Given what has been seen of the 11-meter abuse of "free to
everybody" mentality the powers that be are justifiably reluctant to
just hand over the HF spectrum with anticipation of similar
results...unless its BPL.

I don't know how it is for you guys in Oz and the UK, but here in the US
licensing has been relaxed to the point to where any whiner can get a
"HAM" licence if he'll quit whining long enough to look at the current
regs. Its as easy to get a ham licence as joining a "record club".

-BM

 

[Marty]

"exray" <dontspammeexray@coqui.net> wrote in message
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Marty Wallace wrote:



The really stupid thing is that morse isn't used anywhere at all now
except
in "HAM" radio license tests.
What's the point?

Marty

There's not much of a point. Thats why "HAM" radio licensing is slowly
but surely doing away with Morse as a requirement. But there's still
international agreements and requirements from the old days that still
have to be met...or acceptable workarounds have to be figgered out by
the local licensing authorities.

ITU have dropped the requirement to have CW for HF access, so now it's up to
the individual countries. There is no longer an international requirement
for CW.

Its happening. Just not fast enough for many people. There are no-code
"HAM" licences in many countries, although they may not grant HF
privileges. Given what has been seen of the 11-meter abuse of "free to
everybody" mentality the powers that be are justifiably reluctant to
just hand over the HF spectrum with anticipation of similar
results...unless its BPL.

Australia's no-code licences now allow HF access to the level of the next
licence grade up. E.G. Limited licensees now get Full Call access, Novice
Limited now get Novice access.

I don't know how it is for you guys in Oz and the UK, but here in the US
licensing has been relaxed to the point to where any whiner can get a
"HAM" licence if he'll quit whining long enough to look at the current
regs. Its as easy to get a ham licence as joining a "record club".

-BM

Yeah - seems some groups in Oz are wanting to lower the level required and
whilst I agree in introducing a lower entry level, I disagree with lowering
the level of the existing grades. But, seems we must cater for the
incredibly stupid and lazy these days....

Cheers

Martin, VK2UMJ

 

[Patrick Dunford]

GJ

The monitor on my kids computer is playing up. Every few seconds,
sometimes 5 sometimes 30-60 or anywhere in between, the monitor makes a
clicking sound, like static electricity. The screen flicks with each
click, looking like it gets 80% smaller then back to full size again.
The screen flick takes about 1.2 a second from normal to reduced to
normal again.

Compaq V75 monitor bought 2nd hand through tech rentals quite some time ago.

Any ideas?

power supply restarting itself?

is this what is called "hiccupping"?

 

[Ken Taylor]

"exray" <dontspammeexray@coqui.net> wrote in message
news:108eb1ienc1n23c@corp.supernews.com...

Marty Wallace wrote:



The really stupid thing is that morse isn't used anywhere at all now
except
in "HAM" radio license tests.
What's the point?

Marty

There's not much of a point. Thats why "HAM" radio licensing is slowly
but surely doing away with Morse as a requirement. But there's still
international agreements and requirements from the old days that still
have to be met...or acceptable workarounds have to be figgered out by
the local licensing authorities.

Its happening. Just not fast enough for many people. There are no-code
"HAM" licences in many countries, although they may not grant HF
privileges. Given what has been seen of the 11-meter abuse of "free to
everybody" mentality the powers that be are justifiably reluctant to
just hand over the HF spectrum with anticipation of similar
results...unless its BPL.

I don't know how it is for you guys in Oz and the UK, but here in the US
licensing has been relaxed to the point to where any whiner can get a
"HAM" licence if he'll quit whining long enough to look at the current
regs. Its as easy to get a ham licence as joining a "record club".

-BM

To be honest, I think that record clubs, with an interest in your on-going
credit-worthiness, are probably harder to get into. Sad really.

Ken

 

[mc]

it could be p/supply but then again it could be discharging HV somewhere
in the monitor.. Sometimes that happens with buildup of dirt etc on the
board (n CRT Tube). maybe cleaning it with a blast of air might help
(air compressor)

mc

Patrick Dunford wrote:

GJ

The monitor on my kids computer is playing up. Every few seconds,
sometimes 5 sometimes 30-60 or anywhere in between, the monitor makes a
clicking sound, like static electricity. The screen flicks with each
click, looking like it gets 80% smaller then back to full size again.
The screen flick takes about 1.2 a second from normal to reduced to
normal again.

Compaq V75 monitor bought 2nd hand through tech rentals quite some time ago.

Any ideas?


power supply restarting itself?

is this what is called "hiccupping"?

 

[N Cook]

"Marty" <NOSPAM_vk2umj@yahoo.com.au_NOSPAM> wrote in message
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"Marty Wallace" <mart@geo.net.au> wrote in message
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"Airy R. Bean" <ariy.r.bean@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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Perhaps we could use a new phonetic alphabet, one that
would disambiguate those who were either too lazy or too
stupid, or both, to be able to tackle and pass the 12 WPM
Morse Test when it was available to them from _REAL_ Radio Hams?.....

A Didah
B Dahdididit
C Dahdidahdit
D Dahdidit
E Dit
F Dididahdit
G Dahdahdit
H Didididit
I Didit
J Didahdahdah
K Dahdidah
L DiDahdidit
M Dahdah
N Dahdit
O Dahdahdah
P Didahdahdit
Q Dahdahdidah
R Didahdit
S Dididit
T Dah
U Dididah
V Didididah
W Didahdah
X Dahdididah
Y Dahdidahdah
Z Dahdahdidit


The really stupid thing is that morse isn't used anywhere at all now
except
in "HAM" radio license tests.
What's the point?

Marty

Aint used there in Australia now as well.....

The other Marty...

So in the old film scenario of a sunk ship the rescue divers used to
communicate by knocking on the hull
with a spanner. Also prisoners, in the old films, used to communicate by
banging on the water pipes .
Both activities now not possible I presume

electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on
http://homepages.tcp.co.uk/~diverse

 

[Rod Speed]

The monitor on my kids computer is playing up. Every few seconds,
sometimes 5 sometimes 30-60 or anywhere in between, the monitor
makes a clicking sound, like static electricity. The screen flicks with each
click, looking like it gets 80% smaller then back to full size again.
The screen flick takes about 1.2 a second from normal to reduced to
normal again.

Compaq V75 monitor bought 2nd hand through tech rentals quite some time ago.

Any ideas?

Usual FBT failing problem. Not economic to replace.

 

[Patrick Dunford]

Rod Speed

The monitor on my kids computer is playing up. Every few seconds,
sometimes 5 sometimes 30-60 or anywhere in between, the monitor
makes a clicking sound, like static electricity. The screen flicks with each
click, looking like it gets 80% smaller then back to full size again.
The screen flick takes about 1.2 a second from normal to reduced to
normal again.

Compaq V75 monitor bought 2nd hand through tech rentals quite some time ago.

Any ideas?

Usual FBT failing problem. Not economic to replace.

useful to know. I had a Viewsonic 15" that did this *very* occasionally
from new, got thrown away when one of the primary colours failed

 

[Phil Allison]

"Patrick Dunford" <patrickdunford@nz.invalid>

Rod Speed

Usual FBT failing problem. Not economic to replace.

useful to know.

** Mindless bullshit from the Rodbot is never useful.

The real problem you described could easily be due to a cracked solder
joint.


BTW Working 14 inch PC monitors can often be picked up for nothing off
the street.




............... Phil

 

[splat]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Patrick Dunford" <patrickdunford@nz.invalid


Rod Speed

Usual FBT failing problem. Not economic to replace.

useful to know.



** Mindless bullshit from the Rodbot is never useful.

The real problem you described could easily be due to a cracked solder
joint.


BTW Working 14 inch PC monitors can often be picked up for nothing off
the street.




.............. Phil

Well, not quite nothing

But a 14 inch? Ouch!

Its time to consider upgrading to at least a 17 inch (ok, maybe a 15 inch
ifn yer on a budget)

 

[Phil Allison]

"splat" <...

"Phil Allison"


BTW Working 14 inch PC monitors can often be picked up for nothing
off
the street.



.............. Phil



Well, not quite nothing

** Zero cost, zilch, free, nix - capice ??????

But a 14 inch? Ouch!

Its time to consider upgrading to at least a 17 inch (ok, maybe a 15 inch
ifn yer on a budget)

** Quote from the OP :

" The monitor on my kids computer is playing up."


Pays to read the whole thread - splatcrap





............ Phil

 

[The GHOST of WOGER.]

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:43:33 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:

The monitor on my kids computer is playing up. Every few seconds,
sometimes 5 sometimes 30-60 or anywhere in between, the monitor
makes a clicking sound, like static electricity. The screen flicks with each
click, looking like it gets 80% smaller then back to full size again.
The screen flick takes about 1.2 a second from normal to reduced to
normal again.

Compaq V75 monitor bought 2nd hand through tech rentals quite some time ago.

Any ideas?

Usual FBT failing problem. Not economic to replace.

Normal dry joint symptoms..