PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[blofelds_cat]

geoff wrote:

blofelds_cat wrote:

CleanDave wrote:


On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:56:26 GMT, "Nowhere" <Nowhere@nowhere.com
wrote:

There is a newer technology arriving called LED (light emitting
diode) screens which are

*thinner
*higher contrast
* less power consumption

than Plasma and LCD screens.


Is there a "best brand" LED ?

Samsung


No, it isn't LED TV. It is LED-backlit LCD. Currently subject of
false-advertising actions.

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

Also for LCD

Sony Bravia


Model-for-model, spec-for-spec, Samsung do better sometimes.

/ Plasma?


Panasonic


dunno


geoff

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We have gone from record surpluses to record deficits in record speed! The Rudd government has spent $10 million every hour since Kevin Rudd was elected. And what it means for everyday Australians is that you'll have to, for many years to come, work harder, work longer, and for less pay, and your bills will be bigger, and you'll pay more tax ultimately. This government is drunk on spending, and every Australian is going to have to pay a very significant price for it"
- Joe Hockey, Shadow Treasurer

"Where's Sir John Kerr when you really need him?"

"soft policing, soft enforcement, soft courts, soft government. No surprise that violent crime is on the rise"

"I will save water if two things happen: a dam gets built and Labor goes"

"There's probably a simple explanation for the public servant getting a taxi ride to Hooters. He was looking for Rudd"

"like a moth to the flame, KRudd is attracted by limelight"

- media comments

 

[geoff]

blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV. An LED TV is
a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs. They are hoping that people
won't read deeper, and think they are buying the latest generation of TV
technology, rather than a variation of the LCD type.

geoff

 

[blofelds_cat]

geoff wrote:

blofelds_cat wrote:


Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.


My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

I'm not saying it is a LED tv.

An LED TV is
a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs. They are hoping that people
won't read deeper, and think they are buying the latest generation of TV
technology, rather than a variation of the LCD type.

I just recently learned that a friend bought the biggest and latest
Samsung "LED" panel. (about $6K?) He never asked for my opinion. I can't
wait to tell him when I see him next. hehe.

geoff

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We have gone from record surpluses to record deficits in record speed! The Rudd government has spent $10 million every hour since Kevin Rudd was elected. And what it means for everyday Australians is that you'll have to, for many years to come, work harder, work longer, and for less pay, and your bills will be bigger, and you'll pay more tax ultimately. This government is drunk on spending, and every Australian is going to have to pay a very significant price for it"
- Joe Hockey, Shadow Treasurer

"Where's Sir John Kerr when you really need him?"

"soft policing, soft enforcement, soft courts, soft government. No surprise that violent crime is on the rise"

"I will save water if two things happen: a dam gets built and Labor goes"

"There's probably a simple explanation for the public servant getting a taxi ride to Hooters. He was looking for Rudd"

- media comments

"like a moth to the flame, KRudd is attracted by limelight"

- Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF

 

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC,]

geoff wrote:

blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say its an
LCD/LED TV.

An LED TV is a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs.

How do they get the LEDs that small? And How do they get them to emit more than
one colour?

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

 

[|-|erc]

"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <#sirjohnhoward@gmail.com#> wrote

geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say its an
LCD/LED TV.

Because of the power on light? So you have an LED DVD player?
An LED PC, an LED stereo... Why not list every component when you
refer to something?

An LED TV is a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs.

How do they get the LEDs that small? And How do they get them to emit more than
one colour?

LED billboards have been around for a while, with conventional sized LEDs,
you can vary LEDs output with varying voltage. I assume you know that all
colours can be made with 3 component colours.

Herc

 

[Ross Herbert]

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 09:28:10 +1000, "john smith" <somone@microsoft.com> wrote:

:
:"Nowhere" <Nowhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
SNIP
:
:There is a newer technology arriving called LED (light emitting diode)
:screens which are
:
:*thinner
:*higher contrast
:* less power consumption
:
:than Plasma and LCD screens.
:
:I have heard some do trade in, but cant remember who.
:
:

The problem is that the display is not an LED display. It simply an LCD display
which has LED backlighting. Otherwise it is no different to any other LCD TV.
http://www.displayblog.com/2009/06/23/led-tv/

 

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC,]

|-|erc wrote:

"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <#sirjohnhoward@gmail.com#> wrote
geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say
its an LCD/LED TV.

Because of the power on light? So you have an LED DVD player? An LED
PC, an LED stereo... Why not list every component when you
refer to something?

Why do we say LCD TV then rather than just TV?

An LED TV is a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs.

How do they get the LEDs that small? And How do they get them to emit
more than one colour?

LED billboards have been around for a while, with conventional sized LEDs,
you can vary LEDs output with varying voltage. I assume you know that all
colours can be made with 3 component colours.

Yes, but is that the technology they are going to use? If so, then how is it
going to be any better than what we have at present?

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

 

[KR]

On Jul 8, 8:33 am, "geoff" <ge...@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote:

Mr.T wrote:
"geoff" <ge...@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote in message
news:FMSdnTVJtthgWs_XnZ2dnVY3go2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Is there a "best brand" LED ?

Samsung

No, it isn't LED TV. It is LED-backlit LCD.

Yes, but OLED TV's *are* available if you don't mind the small size
and high price at the moment.

My issue is that Samsung a deliberately fudging the distinction between LCD
and LED TVs.

OLED or whatever other variety of LED is eventually produced is irrelevant
(OLED is the current SOTA) - the main thing is that the LED is the active
emitting device. Or should be.

geoff

I saw a couple of these "LED TV's" at harvey norman yesterday, they
had a sticker on the set saying "LED TV" or "LED screen" etc and then
in small letters underneath something like " *led backlit screen" /
" *led backlighting" etc , so read the fine print carefully.

 

[atec 7 7]

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:

|-|erc wrote:
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <#sirjohnhoward@gmail.com#> wrote
geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say
its an LCD/LED TV.

Because of the power on light? So you have an LED DVD player? An LED
PC, an LED stereo... Why not list every component when you
refer to something?

Why do we say LCD TV then rather than just TV?

An LED TV is a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs.

How do they get the LEDs that small? And How do they get them to emit
more than one colour?

LED billboards have been around for a while, with conventional sized
LEDs,
you can vary LEDs output with varying voltage. I assume you know that
all
colours can be made with 3 component colours.

Yes, but is that the technology they are going to use? If so, then how
is it going to be any better than what we have at present?

Less power used , less heat and ultimately a better image with

development at a reduced build cost

 

[geoff]

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:

geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say
its an LCD/LED TV.

An LED TV is a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs.

How do they get the LEDs that small? And How do they get them to emit
more than one colour?

Currently LED TVs use the OLED variety of LED:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light-emitting_diode

Here's one : http://tinyurl.com/3vz3kl

also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_TV

geoff

 

[geoff]

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:

-|erc wrote:
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <#sirjohnhoward@gmail.com#> wrote
geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a
better picture than normal LCD.

My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.

Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say
its an LCD/LED TV.

Because of the power on light? So you have an LED DVD player? An
LED PC, an LED stereo... Why not list every component when you
refer to something?

Why do we say LCD TV then rather than just TV?

Because it is a TV using an LCD as the significant visual active element, as
opposed to CRT, or DLT.

geoff

 

[John - Melb]

On Jul 9, 7:32 am, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Gray Ghost wrote:
keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote innews:4a54952e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 8, 9:38 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Nah you have a thick skull and a thin skin
Thank you, I'm glad you've noticed.

Er, do you have anything relevant to add to the subject of this
thread?

No more than you have to add to aus.electronics - annoying isn't it my
paranoid little friend

You do know you're wasting more than his bandwidth, don't you you
inconsiderate bastard?

Oh dear, I am so sorry. Of course, if he hadn't stomped into
aus.electronics, I wouldn't be here.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hello Mr Ghost,

Tosspot's playing the same games over on aus.electronics that he
previosuly played on rec.audio.opinion and aus.hi-fi. He's been
spanked for telling porkies here, so he scurrries away to another
totally unrelated group, where he believes no-one knows enough about
the subject to challenge him, and began spreading his rants about guns
and gun owners.

Reproduced below is some of the stuff he's recently put on
aus.electronics.

The truely intereesting thing, is that no-one over there has a problem
with what Trevor has to say, but as soon as an alternative viewpoint
goes up, the start whingeing and ranting about off-topic posts.

A number of them have been quite busily teeling me to piss off, but
not one of them has challenged their "long standing" member about his
rants.

You'l note he's even brought out that old chestnut implying that a DGU
requires a dead body.

Oh, and we're all "psychopaths" who shouldn't be allowed to associate
with "normal humans"

What a pack of wankers.

Feel free to ask Trevor about his claims that US gun dealers are using
gun shows to avoid carrying out background checks so they can sell
guns to criminals. I've asked him, but in true Trevor Tosspot style,
he's provided no evidence to support that assertion
-------------------------------------------
On Jun 16, 3:21 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**Despite the fact that VASTLY more Americans carry guns around the streets,
legally, the US remains the most dangerous, deadly Western, developed
Democratic nations. Carrying guns achieves, at best, nothing. At worst, it
leads to more violence and death. In fact, the US homicide rate is presently
3 times the Australian one.

------------------------------------------------------------

On Jun 18, 12:54 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

**Yes. Easily. Across the US, each year, there are hundreds of 'gun shows'.
At these 'gun shows' dealers, posing as private citizens sell thousands of
guns to criminals. They can do so, because there are virtually zero
restrictions on the sale of 'second hand' guns. Even if that gun has only
been 'second hand' for a couple of minutes and has never been fired. Here in
Australia (and pretty much the rest of the developed world) ALL gun sales
must be recorded and tracked. Even secondary sales. Such an action ensures
that fewer guns end up in the hands of criminals.
----------------------------------------------------

On Jun 18, 3:40 pm, "Trevor Wilson"
<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**Oh yeah: Two more things:
* If I was to crosspost (which I never do) I would never involve those
psychopaths in the talk.politics.guns group with normal humans.
-------------------------------------------------

On Jun 17, 9:40 am, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

**The figures for people legitemately shooting alleged criminals (I say
alleged, because in places like Texas, it would seem that the authorites are
now prepared to accept the word of the 'last man standing', as to the
legitemacy of the shooting) are miniscule in the extreme. FBI figures show
that, in the US, something like 400-odd people are shot and killed by police
in so-called 'justifiable homicide' acts each year. This figure needs to be
examined in the same light as the number killed by civilians in similar
circumstances. The figure for civilians is approximately 230 PA. That figure
needs to be tempered by the inadequacies of the laws in places like Texas,
where lip service is paid by LEOs under many circumstances. Additionally,
one must bear in mind that the number of civilians killed by gunshot each
year in the US is approximately 10,000. Clearly, carrying guns for self
defence purposes is a failed experiment. It is an experiment that many of
the nutters in the pro-gun lobby, here in Australia, wish to duplicate.
These are the same individuals who seem to feel that shooting native ducks
and other indigenous critters is, somehow, sporting. They seem to consider
that the indiscriminate spraying of lead shot into pristine environments,
whilst causing the needless suffering of wild animals is all in a good
cause.

 

[Mr.T]

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:tcg85557b0uditfj5q07a2dh46pfn5h1b4@4ax.com...

The problem is that the display is not an LED display. It simply an LCD
display
which has LED backlighting. Otherwise it is no different to any other LCD
TV.

You are confusing real OLED displays with LED illuminated LCD displays, just
as the advertisers intend unfortunately.

MrT.

 

[John - Melb]

On Jul 8, 10:51 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

It is mildly diverting getting you to display your own foolishness, but
it isn't exactly what you would call mentally stimulating so I think
that I'll just go to bed.

Goodnight, and don't get too upset about that nasty Trevor and all his
lies, take a vallium and sleep it off.

Gee, these comments have certainly added to interesting and worthwhile
debate on the matter. I not really interested in your bed habits and
I'll leave the drug taking to someone else.

 

[John - Melb]

On Jul 9, 8:46 am, Scout <me4g...@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net>
wrote:

keithr wrote:
Gray Ghost wrote:
keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote innews:4a54952e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 8, 9:38 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Nah you have a thick skull and a thin skin
Thank you, I'm glad you've noticed.

Er, do you have anything relevant to add to the subject of this
thread?
No more than you have to add to aus.electronics - annoying isn't it
my paranoid little friend

You do know you're wasting more than his bandwidth, don't you you
inconsiderate bastard?

Oh dear, I am so sorry. Of course, if he hadn't stomped into
aus.electronics, I wouldn't be here.

I see, so for all your holier than thou attitude, you're just as bad as
those you rant against.

Makes you a hypocrite, doesn't it?

Why am I not surprised

Seems to be a lot of that going on over at aus.electronics

 

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC,]

geoff wrote:

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:
geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a better
picture than normal LCD.
My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.
Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say
its an LCD/LED TV.

An LED TV is a TV where the active emitting devices are LEDs.
How do they get the LEDs that small? And How do they get them to emit
more than one colour?

Currently LED TVs use the OLED variety of LED:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_light-emitting_diode

Thanks for that link. It contains this near the bottom -

"
Stacked OLED

Stacked OLED (SOLED) uses a pixel architecture that stacks the red, green, and
blue subpixels on top of one another instead of next to one another, leading to
substantial increase in gamut and color depth, and greatly reducing pixel gap.
At the moment, all display technologies have the RGB (and RGBW) pixels mapped
next to each other.
"

I think that's what I'd be more interested in.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

 

[Dr. Sir John Howard, AC,]

geoff wrote:

Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote:
-|erc wrote:
"Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <#sirjohnhoward@gmail.com#> wrote
geoff wrote:
blofelds_cat wrote:

Yes, I know, but it is using LEDs, and it does seem to have a
better picture than normal LCD.
My LCD TV has a LED in it too. That does not make it an LED TV.
Well, it does actually. Although it would be more appropriate to say
its an LCD/LED TV.
Because of the power on light? So you have an LED DVD player? An
LED PC, an LED stereo... Why not list every component when you
refer to something?
Why do we say LCD TV then rather than just TV?

Because it is a TV using an LCD as the significant visual active element, as
opposed to CRT, or DLT.

I was being rhetoric there.

--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.

"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.

"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.

 

[John - Melb]

On Jul 9, 10:07 am, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Scout wrote:

keithr wrote:
Gray Ghost wrote:
keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote in
news:4a54952e$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au:

John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 8, 9:38 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Nah you have a thick skull and a thin skin
Thank you, I'm glad you've noticed.

Er, do you have anything relevant to add to the subject of this
thread?
No more than you have to add to aus.electronics - annoying isn't it
my paranoid little friend

You do know you're wasting more than his bandwidth, don't you you
inconsiderate bastard?

Oh dear, I am so sorry. Of course, if he hadn't stomped into
aus.electronics, I wouldn't be here.

I see, so for all your holier than thou attitude, you're just as bad as
those you rant against.

Makes you a hypocrite, doesn't it?

Why am I not surprised?

Nope, just employing the same bully boy tactics as your beloved leader.
Seems like you guys can dish it out but squeal like little piggies when
you get the same treatment.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Leader? who the bloody hell died and left me in charge? ROFLMAO!

Maybe it's been dished out to us so much in the past, that some of us
have decided we ain't going to take it anymore?

 

[John - Melb]

On Jul 9, 10:17 am, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

John - Melb wrote:
On Jul 8, 10:51 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
It is mildly diverting getting you to display your own foolishness, but
it isn't exactly what you would call mentally stimulating so I think
that I'll just go to bed.

Goodnight, and don't get too upset about that nasty Trevor and all his
lies, take a vallium and sleep it off.

Gee, these comments have certainly added to interesting and worthwhile
debate on the matter. I not really interested in your bed habits and
I'll leave the drug taking to someone else.

You really are precious about criticism aren''t you johny baby, have to
cross post it to try and discourage it. On Usenet, that is generally
thought of as a low act. Do you enjoy being a low act john, even some of
your own people think that what you are doing is wrong. So why don't you
just let it lie, you have made your point and everybody, yourself
included can go about their business.

Enjoy being considered a "low act" by the likes of you ?

Certainly.

 

[John - Melb]

On Jul 9, 11:23 am, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

well it wasn't dished out to you by the innocent bystanders on
aus.electronics so why take it out on them?-

You mean the folks who think that rants by an anti-gun zealot about
"psychopaths", "normal people", DGU's and criminal gun dealers are
fine on aus.electronics, but get all nasty when an alternative
viewpoint is posted?

Are they the innocent bystanders you're talking about?