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On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 6:58:36 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Ogm2F.173606$I%1.146823@fx08.iad:
On 8/6/19 4:30 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:
A civil society will find a way to make peace with guns, and
an un-civil society will find a way to make war with knives.
The United States in aggregate tends to not be strongly one
thing or the other.
We made peace with guns even when fully automatic Tommy Guns
were legally available. All societies started making war with
whatever weapons they had access to as soon as they started
drugging up to feel better.
Prior to around WW2 the main "regulation" on firearms was cost,
a good-quality handgun like a Colt 1911 or something cost half
a months salary for a middle-class person in the 30 (and that's
assuming you had no other expenses, it would have taken longer
to actually save up for one.) it cost maybe $50 and you could
buy a new car for $600.
It was unlikely you could get one on credit from anyone other
than a loan shark, the banking system personal loan industry
was in its infancy and credit availability was determined on
"character evaluation" (are you wealthy and white? and not
Irish or Italian, please), not an objective "score" of any
kind.
Tommy guns and military-type weapons, fully automatic weapons
etc., were
more widely available than now but were priced at the modern
equivalent of 7 or 8 thousand dollars per and ammunition wasn't
that cheap, either. they were owned in significant quantity
only by law enforcement/military, gangsters, and the very
wealthy.
And drugs, not then or now, has never had anything to do with
their
mindset.
This dude watched reefer madness and is stupid enough to
believe
it. Throughou the millennia, it has never ever been about any
drugs or inebriants.
He probably thinks we never went to the moon, and that the
Earth is
flat.
That's clearly wrong too.
Many of the shooters have been on
drugs for mental illness.
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7fd2b6e6-120d-4769-a3c0-19a92b726172@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 6:58:36 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Ogm2F.173606$I%1.146823@fx08.iad:
On 8/6/19 4:30 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:
A civil society will find a way to make peace with guns, and
an un-civil society will find a way to make war with knives.
The United States in aggregate tends to not be strongly one
thing or the other.
We made peace with guns even when fully automatic Tommy Guns
were legally available. All societies started making war with
whatever weapons they had access to as soon as they started
drugging up to feel better.
Prior to around WW2 the main "regulation" on firearms was cost,
a good-quality handgun like a Colt 1911 or something cost half
a months salary for a middle-class person in the 30 (and that's
assuming you had no other expenses, it would have taken longer
to actually save up for one.) it cost maybe $50 and you could
buy a new car for $600.
It was unlikely you could get one on credit from anyone other
than a loan shark, the banking system personal loan industry
was in its infancy and credit availability was determined on
"character evaluation" (are you wealthy and white? and not
Irish or Italian, please), not an objective "score" of any
kind.
Tommy guns and military-type weapons, fully automatic weapons
etc., were
more widely available than now but were priced at the modern
equivalent of 7 or 8 thousand dollars per and ammunition wasn't
that cheap, either. they were owned in significant quantity
only by law enforcement/military, gangsters, and the very
wealthy.
And drugs, not then or now, has never had anything to do with
their
mindset.
This dude watched reefer madness and is stupid enough to
believe
it. Throughou the millennia, it has never ever been about any
drugs or inebriants.
He probably thinks we never went to the moon, and that the
Earth is
flat.
That's clearly wrong too.
You are an idiot.
Many of the shooters have been on
drugs for mental illness.
Some are hopped up on drugs. It was not the drugs that did it, nor
was the drugs the cause.
That is like blaming the alcohol when some drunk, badly raised jock
fuck jackass beats on his wife. It ain't the alcohol, it is the jock
fuck jackass drunk. Straight, drunk or otherwise, he should go to
prison.
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 2:12:28 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Shooters are often first-time criminals. Gangs kill rivals but don't
shoot up WalMarts for no reason.
Maybe we should look at what the El Paso guy actually said? He left
a white supremacy manifesto...
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 15:42:43 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Just when you thought that Islamic terrorists were about as stupid as
it gets with their suicide attacks, we now have white supremacists
and all other manner of TrumpTarded idiots out there doing suicide
shootings.
This country does not need gun control.
We need to put gang members both black and white (and hispanic) in
prison, and the assholes who antagonize them (Donald J. Trump) as
well.
We need more prisons so that the violent offenders we put there are
not being toothpaste squoze out the back door without serving due to
overcrowding.
Shooters are often first-time criminals. Gangs kill rivals but don't
shoot up WalMarts for no reason.
But there are a couple hundred murders in St Louis every year, and the
press doesn't care. Baltimore kills 45 in some months.
We need to bring back the death penalty and actually carry the
fucking penalties out. One year of appeals and you are done.
Period.
Certain crimes should mean that the offender never gets to step
foot on free soil ever again.
Superior? These stupid, society ruining fucks are not superior even
to a freshly laid turd. Donald J. Trump included.
Someone might look for a common factor among the shooters. Video
games, too much strong weed, some other prescription or street drugs,
vaping, whatever. Some things make some people paranoid and violent.
it looks like you're denying that alcohol abuse is a factor
in domestic violence. Wrong again.
Thank you for that professional opinion, Doctor DL. BTW, attempt
at changing the goal posts noted. No one said the drugs were the
cause, only that drugs, both legal and illegal, can be a
contributing factor.
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 15:42:43 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Just when you thought that Islamic terrorists were about as
stupid as it gets with their suicide attacks, we now have white
supremacists and all other manner of TrumpTarded idiots out
there doing suicide shootings.
This country does not need gun control.
We need to put gang members both black and white (and hispanic)
in
prison, and the assholes who antagonize them (Donald J. Trump)
as well.
We need more prisons so that the violent offenders we put there
are
not being toothpaste squoze out the back door without serving
due to overcrowding.
Shooters are often first-time criminals. Gangs kill rivals but
don't shoot up WalMarts for no reason.
But there are a couple hundred murders in St Louis every year,
and the press doesn't care. Baltimore kills 45 in some months.
We need to bring back the death penalty and actually carry the
fucking penalties out. One year of appeals and you are done.
Period.
Certain crimes should mean that the offender never gets to step
foot on free soil ever again.
Superior? These stupid, society ruining fucks are not superior
even
to a freshly laid turd. Donald J. Trump included.
Someone might look for a common factor among the shooters. Video
games, too much strong weed, some other prescription or street
drugs, vaping, whatever. Some things make some people paranoid
and violent.
These faces seem fairly accurate of subjects of 2019 shooters.
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 15:42:43 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Just when you thought that Islamic terrorists were about as stupid as
it gets with their suicide attacks, we now have white supremacists
and all other manner of TrumpTarded idiots out there doing suicide
shootings.
This country does not need gun control.
We need to put gang members both black and white (and hispanic) in
prison, and the assholes who antagonize them (Donald J. Trump) as
well.
We need more prisons so that the violent offenders we put there are
not being toothpaste squoze out the back door without serving due to
overcrowding.
Shooters are often first-time criminals. Gangs kill rivals but don't
shoot up WalMarts for no reason.
But there are a couple hundred murders in St Louis every year, and the
press doesn't care. Baltimore kills 45 in some months.
We need to bring back the death penalty and actually carry the
fucking penalties out. One year of appeals and you are done.
Period.
Certain crimes should mean that the offender never gets to step
foot on free soil ever again.
Superior? These stupid, society ruining fucks are not superior even
to a freshly laid turd. Donald J. Trump included.
Someone might look for a common factor among the shooters. Video
games, too much strong weed, some other prescription or street drugs,
vaping, whatever. Some things make some people paranoid and violent.
These faces seem fairly accurate of subjects of 2019 shooters.
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/08/1565040845735.jpg?resize=600,646
Greg
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:d31800e5-0d46-4cba-
b570-7ee90e3cbc0b@googlegroups.com:
it looks like you're denying that alcohol abuse is a factor
in domestic violence. Wrong again.
You do not get it. The person's ill raised mentality is the root
cause.
mad when they almost grow up and find out they wont be getting a path
to jock hero superbowl stardom. Some of them 'move on' to become our
ill waistline cops. How quaint. Some of them are so poorly raised
they get mad when 'the ol lady' doesn't have dinner ready and waiting
when they get home from work.
Little white supremacists act the same way. They get mad when their
ideal world is not attained. After they spend their jail hours
talking about how they are superior and making lists of the reasons
why their uptopia has not been realized. Look at Trump. He tried
that manipulative crap with the mob and they pushed him right out of
NJ and the casino business.
He is the most dangerous one in the nation. His word and actions
cost lives and more than anything Hanoi Jane ever said or did.
The problem with both is that they think it is OK to lay their
hands on people. That is the whole problem. Nobody out there knows
that rule apparently.
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:d31800e5-0d46-4cba-b570-7ee90e3cbc0b@googlegroups.com:
Thank you for that professional opinion, Doctor DL. BTW, attempt
at changing the goal posts noted. No one said the drugs were the
cause, only that drugs, both legal and illegal, can be a
contributing factor.
No. That is what you said in your post.
And drugs, not then or now, has never had anything to do with their
mindset.
This dude watched reefer madness and is stupid enough to believe
it. Throughou the millennia, it has never ever been about any drugs
or inebriants.
What you apparently did not do is actually read the thread and the
discussion,
mission to fuck with me. Your stupidity is a *still* contributing
factor to the noise in this group.
I want to return the favor. Post your name and address, pussy boy.
Have your family join you there. I'll come over and say "high".
I'll be sure to do a bunch of bad drugs first too. Where is a good
lye pit when you need one.
Your fat ass probably wouldn't even fit.
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7fd2b6e6-120d-4769-a3c0-19a92b726172@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 6:58:36 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:Ogm2F.173606$I%1.146823@fx08.iad:
On 8/6/19 4:30 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:
A civil society will find a way to make peace with guns, and
an un-civil society will find a way to make war with knives.
The United States in aggregate tends to not be strongly one
thing or the other.
We made peace with guns even when fully automatic Tommy Guns
were legally available. All societies started making war with
whatever weapons they had access to as soon as they started
drugging up to feel better.
Prior to around WW2 the main "regulation" on firearms was cost,
a good-quality handgun like a Colt 1911 or something cost half
a months salary for a middle-class person in the 30 (and that's
assuming you had no other expenses, it would have taken longer
to actually save up for one.) it cost maybe $50 and you could
buy a new car for $600.
It was unlikely you could get one on credit from anyone other
than a loan shark, the banking system personal loan industry
was in its infancy and credit availability was determined on
"character evaluation" (are you wealthy and white? and not
Irish or Italian, please), not an objective "score" of any
kind.
Tommy guns and military-type weapons, fully automatic weapons
etc., were
more widely available than now but were priced at the modern
equivalent of 7 or 8 thousand dollars per and ammunition wasn't
that cheap, either. they were owned in significant quantity
only by law enforcement/military, gangsters, and the very
wealthy.
And drugs, not then or now, has never had anything to do with
their
mindset.
This dude watched reefer madness and is stupid enough to
believe
it. Throughou the millennia, it has never ever been about any
drugs or inebriants.
He probably thinks we never went to the moon, and that the
Earth is
flat.
That's clearly wrong too.
You are an idiot.
Many of the shooters have been on
drugs for mental illness.
Some are hopped up on drugs. It was not the drugs that did it, nor
was the drugs the cause.
That is like blaming the alcohol when some drunk, badly raised jock
fuck jackass beats on his wife. It ain't the alcohol, it is the jock
fuck jackass drunk. Straight, drunk or otherwise, he should go to
prison.
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:
A civil society will find a way to make peace with guns, and an
un-civil society will find a way to make war with knives.
The United States in aggregate tends to not be strongly one thing or
the other.
We made peace with guns even when fully automatic Tommy Guns were
legally available. All societies started making war with whatever
weapons they had access to as soon as they started drugging up to
feel better.
BS. That's why gun control was passed in the 30s, it tightly
controlled fully automatic weapons.
Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:
A civil society will find a way to make peace with guns, and an
un-civil society will find a way to make war with knives.
The United States in aggregate tends to not be strongly one thing or
the other.
We made peace with guns even when fully automatic Tommy Guns were
legally available. All societies started making war with whatever
weapons they had access to as soon as they started drugging up to
feel better.
BS. That's why gun control was passed in the 30s, it tightly
controlled fully automatic weapons.
Only because of the mafia, and they didn't shoot random people either.
Individuals did not do mass shootings with any kind of weapon until
recently. Nobody has explained why.
Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 6, 2019 at 4:30:42 PM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
bitrex wrote:
A civil society will find a way to make peace with guns, and an
un-civil society will find a way to make war with knives.
The United States in aggregate tends to not be strongly one thing or
the other.
We made peace with guns even when fully automatic Tommy Guns were
legally available. All societies started making war with whatever
weapons they had access to as soon as they started drugging up to
feel better.
BS. That's why gun control was passed in the 30s, it tightly
controlled fully automatic weapons.
Only because of the mafia,
Individuals did not do mass shootings with any kind of weapon until
recently. Nobody has explained why.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 15:42:43 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Just when you thought that Islamic terrorists were about as stupid as
it gets with their suicide attacks, we now have white supremacists
and all other manner of TrumpTarded idiots out there doing suicide
shootings.
This country does not need gun control.
We need to put gang members both black and white (and hispanic) in
prison, and the assholes who antagonize them (Donald J. Trump) as
well.
We need more prisons so that the violent offenders we put there are
not being toothpaste squoze out the back door without serving due to
overcrowding.
Shooters are often first-time criminals. Gangs kill rivals but don't
shoot up WalMarts for no reason.
But there are a couple hundred murders in St Louis every year, and the
press doesn't care. Baltimore kills 45 in some months.
We need to bring back the death penalty and actually carry the
fucking penalties out. One year of appeals and you are done.
Period.
Certain crimes should mean that the offender never gets to step
foot on free soil ever again.
Superior? These stupid, society ruining fucks are not superior even
to a freshly laid turd. Donald J. Trump included.
Someone might look for a common factor among the shooters. Video
games, too much strong weed, some other prescription or street drugs,
vaping, whatever. Some things make some people paranoid and violent.
Self-reporting by the family after the fact isn't of much value I
don't think. Dysfunctional, abusive families can disguise
themselves quite well particularly if they have money to throw at
the problem.
and a lot of it is fortified with other stuff. That can make some
people paranoid and crazy.
That makes sense. Marajuana is a lot more potent than it used to
be,
On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 7:30:28 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:d31800e5-0d46-4cba-
b570-7ee90e3cbc0b@googlegroups.com:
it looks like you're denying that alcohol abuse is a factor
in domestic violence. Wrong again.
You do not get it. The person's ill raised mentality is the root
cause.
As if it was that simple. Many of these shooters, maybe most, have
been raised in what appear to be normal homes. The mother of the
El Paso shooter for example says:
"Patrick's actions were apparently influenced and informed by people we do not know, and from ideas and beliefs we do not accept or condone."
"He was raised in a family that taught love, kindness, respect, and tolerance â rejecting all forms of racism, prejudice, hatred, and violence."