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On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:35:29 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Thursday, 30 January 2020 08:19:55 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:13:18 AM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:39:09 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:27:56 PM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:59:14 UTC, Bill Sloman
FWIW if we look at the costs, the purchase price of the fitting is usually a minor part of the total cost for the average homeowner to have a light fitting replaced.
Everyone I know would either do it themselves or have a friend come over and do it. Cost: a six pack.
Sure, but most of the population doesn't.
I think that is unsubstantiated.
I can't speak for the US but certainly here most people don't do their own house wiring.
Swapping a ceiling fixture isn't exactly re-wiring a house.
Even if there is a one time cost to switching to CFL and LED bulbs, that doesn't mean the savings on electricity isn't still worth the effort.
that alone doesn't conclude either way.
Not that NT can work out. Anything beyond the simplest arithmetic is too hard , and the conceptual juggling required to compare the cost of manufacturing a light fitting, the cost of installing it, and the amount you might save on the cost of the electricity by fitting LED or compact fluorescent lamps is quite beyond him. He can do the hand-waving part, but keeping all the ball in the ball in the air isn't really his thing.
We get the load of balls as some kind of place holder for a real argument..
Most light bulbs are in lamps, at least all the homes I've been in, but then that's only anecdotal. Maybe the hundreds of homes I've seen were an odd statistical anomaly with lamps all over the place while the rest of the world uses ceiling fixtures.
but what that means is a mystery
To NT, who is easily mystified, because he doesn't know very much.
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 13:34:42 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:35:29 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Thursday, 30 January 2020 08:19:55 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:13:18 AM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:39:09 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:27:56 PM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:59:14 UTC, Bill Sloman
Most light bulbs are in lamps, at least all the homes I've been in, but then that's only anecdotal. Maybe the hundreds of homes I've seen were an odd statistical anomaly with lamps all over the place while the rest of the world uses ceiling fixtures.
but what that means is a mystery
To NT, who is easily mystified, because he doesn't know very much.
to anyone that knows what the words mean it does not make sense.
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 13:46:39 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:43:03 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:03:19 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 11:41:19 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:13:18 AM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:39:09 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:27:56 PM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:59:14 UTC, Bill Sloman
It wouldn't have been as bad if govt had gone about it in a constructive way, but being govt they didn't.
NT hasn't bothered to spell out how they might have done it "in a constructive way".
It seems unlikely that he has anything specific in mind, but he's great at constructing uninformative sentences that sound as if they mean something.
By informing people? Lord you're thick.
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 8:53:59 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 13:46:39 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:43:03 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:03:19 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 11:41:19 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:13:18 AM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:39:09 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:27:56 PM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:59:14 UTC, Bill Sloman
snip
It wouldn't have been as bad if govt had gone about it in a constructive way, but being govt they didn't.
NT hasn't bothered to spell out how they might have done it "in a constructive way".
It seems unlikely that he has anything specific in mind, but he's great at constructing uninformative sentences that sound as if they mean something.
By informing people? Lord you're thick.
Not thick enough to take you seriously. You don't seem to be bright enough to notice quite how vacuous your output is.
On Monday, 3 February 2020 12:16:24 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 8:53:59 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 13:46:39 UTC, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:43:03 PM UTC+11, tabby wrote:
On Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:03:19 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 11:41:19 AM UTC-5, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:19:55 AM UTC-5, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 3:13:18 AM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:39:09 UTC, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 8:27:56 PM UTC-5, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:59:14 UTC, Bill Sloman
snip
It wouldn't have been as bad if govt had gone about it in a constructive way, but being govt they didn't.
NT hasn't bothered to spell out how they might have done it "in a constructive way".
It seems unlikely that he has anything specific in mind, but he's great at constructing uninformative sentences that sound as if they mean something.
By informing people? Lord you're thick.
Not thick enough to take you seriously. You don't seem to be bright enough to notice quite how vacuous your output is.
you're too thick to spot the obvious, too thick to come back with a sensible reply, and too thick to do anything better than make repeated feeble & childish ad hominem attempts. You're as usual a childish time waster.
And it's about time I quit wasting time on you. Plonk.