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[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 5:11 PM, whit3rd wrote:

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society?

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

Verbum sap. The 'ultimate authority' of the State, or Party, or even Deity,
can override common sense and morality and ethics... the scariest
characters of literature include a lot of very subservient-to-a-principal
minions. One never wants to encounter the 'true believer' with an insane
agenda. But sometimes, that happens outside of the safe bounds of fiction
literature.

Hitler didn't believe he was always right, at least not privately, he
was wracked by guilt and self-doubt constantly.

None of these "monsters of history" were 2D cardboard-cutout movie
villains; they were all psychologically complex "regular" humans not
that much different than anyone else.

 

[whit3rd]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society?

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

Verbum sap. The 'ultimate authority' of the State, or Party, or even Deity,
can override common sense and morality and ethics... the scariest
characters of literature include a lot of very subservient-to-a-principal
minions. One never wants to encounter the 'true believer' with an insane
agenda. But sometimes, that happens outside of the safe bounds of fiction
literature.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 5:30 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 6/17/19 5:11 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society?

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

Verbum sap.   The 'ultimate authority' of the State, or Party, or even
Deity,
can override  common sense and morality and ethics... the scariest
characters of literature include a lot of very subservient-to-a-principal
minions.   One never wants to encounter the 'true believer' with an
insane
agenda.   But sometimes, that  happens outside of the safe bounds of
fiction
literature.


Hitler didn't believe he was always right, at least not privately, he
was wracked by guilt and self-doubt constantly.

None of these "monsters of history" were 2D cardboard-cutout movie
villains; they were all psychologically complex "regular" humans not
that much different than anyone else.

I shouldn't say he was too "regular", though. There has to be a
distinction made between Hitler's public persona, in which he was indeed
always right, and Hitler the man, who was not Hitler's public persona.
The Hitler who was always right was a construction and a fabrication. It
didn't really exist

Hitler the man was a sullen, depressed, cantankerous and pitiable
creature, constantly tortured by doubts, guilts, fears, and old grudges
from the past, far more than the average person A very sad case and the
gulf between that man and his public persona was enormous.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:57:25 GMT, Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Sounds like Trump.

Not a bit. He is reducing government regulation.

He now wants to change the constitution so he can become king for life!

Really?


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picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Steve Wilson]

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:57:25 GMT, Steve Wilson <no@spam.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Sounds like Trump.

Not a bit. He is reducing government regulation.

At the cost of the US and Global economies and the citizens of the US.

He now wants to change the constitution so he can become king for life!

Really?

Yes. I read it recently. But I know you never look at links, so I didn't
bother including it.

However, there are plenty of references on how Trump is already sneaking
past the Constitution, and how he regards XI as King and maybe he should
give it a shot:

------------------------------------------------------------------------
But Trump’s proposal takes things to a another level. While Obama was
questionably trying to act within laws passed by Congress, Trump is
arguably trying to change the Constitution in a way even Ryan says is
flatly unconstitutional. The threshold for constitutional amendments — two-
thirds majorities in Congress and three-fourths of states — is considerably
higher for a reason: Because it impacts the very structure of our
government. And the Supreme Court has been pretty clear that the 14th
Amendment applies to everyone born here. This could very easily be
construed as a president overturning Supreme Court precedent.

Even people who favor getting rid of birthright citizenship for the
children of illegal immigrants tend to agree it’s not possible without a
constitutional amendment or, at the very least, an act of Congress. Doing
this via executive action, which is not supposed to create new laws but
instead work within existing ones, is not a serious proposal. And it’s not
even the first time Trump has talked about getting around the Constitution
via executive action. Earlier this year, he was supposedly going to somehow
institute a line-item veto, even though the Supreme Court had ruled that
unconstitutional in the 1990s.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/31/gop-decried-king-obama-
now-its-mostly-quiet-trumps-effort-revise-constitution-by-himself/?
noredirect=on

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Trump says supporters might 'demand' that he serve more than two terms as
president

https://www.journalnow.com/news/national/trump-says-supporters-might-
demand-that-he-serve-more-than/article_1e5b2f91-a930-5cff-bf8d-
b536ce66c632.html

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 01:08:46 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 20:51, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The same is true of rampant free-marketeers and libertarians.

But they have to compete. And we have elections.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Unfortunately rampant capitalism (and their accountants
and MBAs) /did/ wreck the economy.

"Capitalism" was a slur invented by Marx. We don't live in a world
dominated by Capital. I don't think anyone ever has.

In a free economy, of course people are allowed to have herd instincts
and do collective stupid things.




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http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 17/06/19 20:51, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The same is true of rampant free-marketeers and libertarians.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Unfortunately rampant capitalism (and their accountants
and MBAs) /did/ wreck the economy.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 17/06/19 20:47, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:48:02 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Slavers.

Slavery was universal throughout, no doubt before, recorded history.

Yup; sanctioned by both Judaism and Islam, and probably
other major religions.


> What's remarkable is how Western democracies ended it.

It wasn't ended (here) because of democracy nor
because of capitalism. Moral indignation was the
driving force. Hence capitalism is irrelevant in
this respect.

In your country for a long time black men were
counted as 3/5th of a white man. I have no idea
how that figure was derived!


> It's still going on in lots of places.

Yup, and in a lot of those places capitalism rules.

Slaves were at least valuable property. It didn't make sense to
mass-murder them.

True (at least while they were young and fit),
but irrelevant to the point.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 2:12:40 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 02:56:23 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

How many best sellers have you written?

How many books?

Do you own any books?

So far as we can tell, he hasn't even *read* a single book in his entire
life.

Do comic books, or coloring books count?

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 8:47:32 PM UTC-4, mpm wrote:

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:20:08 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
No, moron. I'm on two injections of Lantus insulin, Metformin and Glipzide. My glucose level is typically in the 95 to 105 level. Do you have any more lies?

Hey Mike,.

Off-topic, but then this whole thread is off-topic anyway (as usual).
If you don't mind me asking, what dosage of Metformin are you on?
My doc has me on it as well (pre-diabetic candidate, here), and frankly, I'm not sure it does a damn thing for me?

I assume you have your diet well under control.
My problem is pizza -- and poor planning (food-wise), generally speaking.
I'll get hungry and grab the first thing I can find.

Then I grab the second thing, which is usually a chair in front of a PC or a TV. The older I get, the harder it is to get in shape.

I am on two 1000mG tablets a day, and two 10mg tablets of Glipizide. along with two shots of 42 units of Lantus per day. Metformin can cause severe digestive problems for some people, including weaponized diarrhea. I had to slowly build up to a full does, each time the prescription was increased.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 18/06/19 01:33, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 01:08:46 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 20:51, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The same is true of rampant free-marketeers and libertarians.

But they have to compete. And we have elections.



The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Unfortunately rampant capitalism (and their accountants
and MBAs) /did/ wreck the economy.

"Capitalism" was a slur invented by Marx. We don't live in a world
dominated by Capital. I don't think anyone ever has.

Even if correct, that wouldn't change the principal
point.

Capitalists /did/ wreck the economy.

In a free economy, of course people are allowed to have herd instincts
and do collective stupid things.

The free-marketeers and economists base their understanding
on the concept that people make rational decisions. The more
intelligent specimens of those communities are only just
beginning to understand how flawed that is.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 3:57:29 PM UTC-4, Steve Wilson wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Sounds like Trump.

He now wants to change the constitution so he can become king for life!

America has never had a king, no matter what your perverted fantasies desire to be true. A President can't change the US Constitutions, no matter how much you wish we were lead by fools like you are. Amendments take a long, time consuming process, not Obama's 'Pen and phone'.

 

[mpm]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:20:08 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
> No, moron. I'm on two injections of Lantus insulin, Metformin and Glipzide. My glucose level is typically in the 95 to 105 level. Do you have any more lies?

Hey Mike,.

Off-topic, but then this whole thread is off-topic anyway (as usual).
If you don't mind me asking, what dosage of Metformin are you on?
My doc has me on it as well (pre-diabetic candidate, here), and frankly, I'm not sure it does a damn thing for me?

I assume you have your diet well under control.
My problem is pizza -- and poor planning (food-wise), generally speaking.
I'll get hungry and grab the first thing I can find.

Then I grab the second thing, which is usually a chair in front of a PC or a TV. The older I get, the harder it is to get in shape.

 

[mpm]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:05:17 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

I am on two 1000mG tablets a day, ...

That's what I thought.
I'm on 500 mG, twice a day (before lunch and dinner), but I nearly always forget to take the dose at dinner. I suspect I am under-dosed, somewhat self-inflicted.

Weaponized diarrhea? There's a term you don't hear too often.

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 11:46:21 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 6/17/19 11:29 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:04:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 2:46 AM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

The Impeach Trump movement started before he was inaugurated.

There is no movement, just a bunch of loudmouths.

The Impeach thing has serious organization and serious money behind
it. Steyer alone has spent tens of millions.

Expensive hot air is still... hot air. Organized hot air... well, if it'll turn a turbine, I'm all
for it.

Google impeach trump movement

But that would be paying 'way too much attention to... hot air. I'll search on
more useful strings, like 'silver solder clearance' or somesuch, and find something worth
reading about.


A large proportion of the Republican electorate believes it's the
government's job to round up the people they don't like and gas and
shoot them and their families and fill up mass graves in the name of Jesus.


No. The large proportion of Republicans are serious Christians who
donate time and money to helping the less fortunate.

Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=who+really+cares&crid=37BNZJ5FOFEPV&sprefix=who+really%2Caps%2C190&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_10


The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

The most violent group in the USA now is Antifa.



To serve and protect...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/us/tennessee-preacher-cop-lgbtq/index.html

Too bad this sort of hate doesn't qualify as a crime by itself. I think some other crime has to be committed, only then could it be considered a hate crime.

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[Rick C]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 11:29:30 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:04:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 2:46 AM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

The Impeach Trump movement started before he was inaugurated.

There is no movement, just a bunch of loudmouths.

The Impeach thing has serious organization and serious money behind
it. Steyer alone has spent tens of millions.

Expensive hot air is still... hot air. Organized hot air... well, if it'll turn a turbine, I'm all
for it.

Google impeach trump movement

But that would be paying 'way too much attention to... hot air. I'll search on
more useful strings, like 'silver solder clearance' or somesuch, and find something worth
reading about.


A large proportion of the Republican electorate believes it's the
government's job to round up the people they don't like and gas and
shoot them and their families and fill up mass graves in the name of Jesus.


No. The large proportion of Republicans are serious Christians who
donate time and money to helping the less fortunate.

Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=who+really+cares&crid=37BNZJ5FOFEPV&sprefix=who+really%2Caps%2C190&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_10


The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

The most violent group in the USA now is Antifa.

"Design something. Post some schematics and pics. We can have some fun with that."

You are truly bizarre. You tell someone to talk work, then you continue to post in the same off topic thread as the one you are criticizing. So weird.

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[Rick C]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 10:33:43 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:47:08 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:20:08 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 9:11:55 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 5:56:27 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:20:19 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

you can find "The Art of the Deal" in my local bargain bin too so it
will be in good company.

How many best sellers have you written?

How many books?

Do you own any books?

I have over 5,000 books, and I have run out of room for more. I have that report in PDF, so I can zoom in to read it. It is also searchable. I have thousands of E-books, many of which are duplicates of printed books, so that I can read them on a 24" monitor. My vision is poor, due to my age and Diabetes. It also makes it easy for an occasional typo to slip through.

Your vision is poor due to >>>uncontrolled<<< diabetes.

No, moron. I'm on two injections of Lantus insulin, Metformin and Glipzide. My glucose level is typically in the 95 to 105 level. Do you have any more lies?

There is a direct connection between blood sugar levels and retinopathy.. What is your A1C?

Typically 7.0.

I have had vision problems since grade school. I've worn glasses for close to 60 years. My A1C was at 11.0 when first diagnosed with Diabetes almost 20 years ago. It has been in control since then. You aren't a doctor,so stop trying to diagnose people online. Now go away with your crap.

It *is* hard to diagnose when you change the facts. YOU were the one who said your vision problems were due to "age and Diabetes". Now you say your vision has been bad "since grade school". I hope your doctor can figure out when you are talking straight and when you dissemble.

Enjoy, no point in discussing this with you if you can't be honest.

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[Rick C]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 12:10:14 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2bc066a8-9dbb-4db2-9ae3-da1915ec53df@googlegroups.com:

It's about time that the EVs and Biofuel tax cheats start paying
their fair share of the cost for roads and bridges.

This is about the most retarded crap ever.

You are one of those fucktards that think bike riders have no right
to use the roads to, eh?

Fuels tax does not pay for roads. Vehicle registration and license
fees and state income taxes and federal income taxes do.

Yeah, that is very true. The Governor of Maryland was claiming if they raised the gas tax the money would necessarily go to building roads. The Comptroller was reported to have said something to the effect that the money was simply put in the general fund and no accounting was made of it.

If they wanted to commit to spending the money on roads, they would have known how much it would bring in and could have passed a bill to add that much to the other road projects.

Tax cheats? You are a fucking tax retard... put that on the rest of
the list of things you are stupid about.

He lives in a state that taxes the crap out of gas partly to discourage its use and promote alternative means of transportation. He wants to keep belching carbon so he feels others should pay for his stuff.

Talk about freeloading!

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[Rick C]

On Monday, June 17, 2019 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:178ba9ff-e3ad-416c-8ec9-4e7553b67165@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:20:19 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

you can find "The Art of the Deal" in my local bargain bin too so
it will be in good company.

How many best sellers have you written?

How many books?

Do you own any books?

I have over 5,000 books, and I have run out of room for more. I
have that report in PDF, so I can zoom in to read it. It is also
searchable. I have thousands of E-books, many of which are
duplicates of printed books, so that I can read them on a 24"
monitor. My vision is poor, due to my age and Diabetes. It also
makes it easy for an occasional typo to slip through.


"The Art of The Deal" isn't a book, it is retarded rich jackass
pablum. And he didn't even write it!

No, but he paid someone to write it. Isn't that just as good?

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[John Larkin]

On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 01:51:43 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/06/19 01:33, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 01:08:46 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 20:51, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The same is true of rampant free-marketeers and libertarians.

But they have to compete. And we have elections.



The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Unfortunately rampant capitalism (and their accountants
and MBAs) /did/ wreck the economy.

"Capitalism" was a slur invented by Marx. We don't live in a world
dominated by Capital. I don't think anyone ever has.

Even if correct, that wouldn't change the principal
point.

Capitalists /did/ wreck the economy.

Is the economy wrecked? I hadn't noticed. Which Capitalists did that?

In a free economy, of course people are allowed to have herd instincts
and do collective stupid things.

The free-marketeers and economists base their understanding
on the concept that people make rational decisions. The more
intelligent specimens of those communities are only just
beginning to understand how flawed that is.

Of course most people aren't rational. That includes most economists.




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