OT: That didn't take very long!

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1fcfed69-d1d9-4faa-9dad-0cc8a75cbafc@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 5:36:51 PM UTC-4, mpm wrote:

On a related note, I once saw copies of the 911-Report in the
Fiction section. Maybe Muller's report will end up there
eventually?

No, it will be in the Fantasy section. Along with Witchcraft, and
monsters.

You are both fucking retarded. Mueller is a decorated Marine. He
was an excellent FBI director, and all you Trumpanzee retards
jumping on the lowlife Trumpanzee disparagement bandwagon is a
fucking Twilight Zone joke on America.

YOU motherfuckers deserve disparagement. Trump DESERVES
impeachment.

The maturity level of the voters for Trump rests real close to
nil... right around the eleven year old elementary school bully
wannabe mentality.

Next thing you twits will be trying to tell us that the Moon
landings were fake.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:

The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
newsXONE.183604$9v.129810@fx44.iad:

On 6/17/19 11:52 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:46:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 6/17/19 11:29 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:04:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 6/17/19 2:46 AM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:

The Impeach Trump movement started before he was
inaugurated.

There is no movement, just a bunch of loudmouths.

The Impeach thing has serious organization and serious money
behind it. Steyer alone has spent tens of millions.

Expensive hot air is still... hot air. Organized hot air...
well, if it'll turn a turbine, I'm all for it.

Google impeach trump movement

But that would be paying 'way too much attention to... hot
air. I'll search on more useful strings, like 'silver
solder clearance' or somesuch, and find something worth
reading about.


A large proportion of the Republican electorate believes it's
the government's job to round up the people they don't like
and gas and shoot them and their families and fill up mass
graves in the name of Jesus.


No. The large proportion of Republicans are serious Christians
who donate time and money to helping the less fortunate.

Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=who+really+cares&crid=
37BNZJ5FOFEPV&s
prefix=who+really%2Caps%2C190&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_10



Read the book. Sometimes statistics are a useful supplement to
speculation and prejudice.

How much did you donate to the less fortunate last year?




A sad/amusing anecdote was this time about a year ago after my
father passed away and I went to donate some of his unused clothes
(like many elderly people he had a ton of clothes but tended to
favor the same three pairs of slacks.)

The Salvation Army headquarters for my region is this huge-ass
building in an office park about five stories high, looks like
about a $15 million property that rivals the size of Analog
Device's global headquarters down the street. well-landscaped
grounds and parking for like 100 cars, executive parking spots,
all that stuff.

I thought hey maybe I can just drop these clothes off there but
nope. There were only two rusty clothing drop-boxes behind the
building, stuffed to overflowing, there was stuff on the ground in
front that had been rained on and ruined. Clearly hadn't been
cleaned out in several weeks or a month, at least.

Checked out the couple BMWs parked in the lot on the way out and
chuckled, this "faith based" charity is top-heavy as fuk. All
executives and accountants and functionaries and bullshit but they
don't even seem to pay anyone $8 an hour on staff to clean out the
donation box AT THEIR OWN REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS! in a timely
fashion.

You'd have thought one of those executives at some point in the,
what, month or whatever would've noticed the overflowing
drop-boxes AT THEIR OWN REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS and said to
themselves "Hey that's a real waste and looks pretty bad maybe I
should tidy that up?" and get off their ass and do it but I guess
not. Below their pay grade I suppose.

The Salvation Army is a church.

Headquartered in the UK.

But over three decades ago I stayed at a facility in St. Louis
over a weekend until I could get my car the following Monday.

I sent them a check for $60 some 15 years later.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Slavers.

 

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
news:9igfgeds90lbqbbca21ans9g7fu5u8ncek@4ax.com:

Two follow-ups to your own post. Are you done yet?

Goddamn! Another fucking Usenet crybaby?

We do not have bandwidth problems any more.

I doubt seriously that anyone here is connected via POTS modem.

Work with the message content, not pissing and moaning about how it
was constructed.

You need to grow the fuck up, 'cause you ain't done yet.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 12:44 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
newsXONE.183604$9v.129810@fx44.iad:

On 6/17/19 11:52 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:46:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 6/17/19 11:29 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:04:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 6/17/19 2:46 AM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:

The Impeach Trump movement started before he was
inaugurated.

There is no movement, just a bunch of loudmouths.

The Impeach thing has serious organization and serious money
behind it. Steyer alone has spent tens of millions.

Expensive hot air is still... hot air. Organized hot air...
well, if it'll turn a turbine, I'm all for it.

Google impeach trump movement

But that would be paying 'way too much attention to... hot
air. I'll search on more useful strings, like 'silver
solder clearance' or somesuch, and find something worth
reading about.


A large proportion of the Republican electorate believes it's
the government's job to round up the people they don't like
and gas and shoot them and their families and fill up mass
graves in the name of Jesus.


No. The large proportion of Republicans are serious Christians
who donate time and money to helping the less fortunate.

Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=who+really+cares&crid=
37BNZJ5FOFEPV&s
prefix=who+really%2Caps%2C190&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_10



Read the book. Sometimes statistics are a useful supplement to
speculation and prejudice.

How much did you donate to the less fortunate last year?




A sad/amusing anecdote was this time about a year ago after my
father passed away and I went to donate some of his unused clothes
(like many elderly people he had a ton of clothes but tended to
favor the same three pairs of slacks.)

The Salvation Army headquarters for my region is this huge-ass
building in an office park about five stories high, looks like
about a $15 million property that rivals the size of Analog
Device's global headquarters down the street. well-landscaped
grounds and parking for like 100 cars, executive parking spots,
all that stuff.

I thought hey maybe I can just drop these clothes off there but
nope. There were only two rusty clothing drop-boxes behind the
building, stuffed to overflowing, there was stuff on the ground in
front that had been rained on and ruined. Clearly hadn't been
cleaned out in several weeks or a month, at least.

Checked out the couple BMWs parked in the lot on the way out and
chuckled, this "faith based" charity is top-heavy as fuk. All
executives and accountants and functionaries and bullshit but they
don't even seem to pay anyone $8 an hour on staff to clean out the
donation box AT THEIR OWN REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS! in a timely
fashion.

You'd have thought one of those executives at some point in the,
what, month or whatever would've noticed the overflowing
drop-boxes AT THEIR OWN REGIONAL HEADQUARTERS and said to
themselves "Hey that's a real waste and looks pretty bad maybe I
should tidy that up?" and get off their ass and do it but I guess
not. Below their pay grade I suppose.


The Salvation Army is a church.

Headquartered in the UK.

But over three decades ago I stayed at a facility in St. Louis
over a weekend until I could get my car the following Monday.

I sent them a check for $60 some 15 years later.

One of the few right-wing Christian organizations that do actual charity
are the Mormons; most other Evangelical charities are in the vein of the
Salvation Army - all BMWs and high-paid executives and paper-pushing and
lobbying bullshit and does some actual charity from time to time as a hobby.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 12:42 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:32:34 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:25 PM, bitrex wrote:

"Charity" like the following heartwarming tale:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2018/07/18/an-alabama-man-walked-almost-20-miles-to-his-new-job-when-his-boss-found-out-he-gave-him-a-car/?utm_term=.d6fb8d72c403


Is not charity by any sane standard; the whole situation is insanity in
any first-world country. That a hero boss then comes along and with a
snap of the fingers is able to convert the situation into a sane one,
what it should have been all along, is more like leveraging
institutionalized madness to enforce their own power.



That is to say if you were to do a dollars-and-cents accounting of the
GDP that was actually gained or lost by going thru this big dramatic
process it would likely end up a money-loser as compared to if the
employee had just had a car available to use to get to work, potentially
on the taxpayer dime, from the outset, and could start working at full
potential immediately.

But everyone will clap themselves on the back and marvel at the ties of
brotherhood on display here and be happy about it while America ends up
a little poorer overall.

Two follow-ups to your own post. Are you done yet?

It's admirable that you take old, useless junk to Goodwill instead of
to the dump, where you'd probably have to pay.

Aside from that, what have you done to help the less fortunate?

The Salvation Army considers clothing "useless junk" too, apparently.

Like many Christian charities in the US they're too busy trying to
convert all the gays and fund political campaigns to revoke people's
Constitutional rights to bother with it I guess.

a billion bucks a year donated to tax-exempt religious organizations to
lobby politicians for abortion restrictions is not "charity."

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 02:56:23 -0700, Michael Terrell wrote:

How many best sellers have you written?

How many books?

Do you own any books?

So far as we can tell, he hasn't even *read* a single book in his entire
life.



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 09:42:58 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> Two follow-ups to your own post. Are you done yet?

Only *two* this time? The boy's getting better! ;->




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[Tom Gardner]

On 17/06/19 19:54, bitrex wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his analysis of
world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao became "socialist" one
day and all evil sprung out of that one decision, and not the fact that these
were people who had an enormously effective personality cult surrounding them
and that their attraction to the people, the masses of millions of people who
desperately wanted them to be in power (at least for a while), was almost
entirely divorced from what they actually believed about organizing a society.

I wish people would remember the basic difference between
rampant communism and rampant capitalism, viz:
- in communism, man oppresses man
- in capitalism it is the other way around

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 2:54 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

Mao in particular is all over the map and waffles all over the place
between his idealization and respect for the proletariat, and his
contempt for them.

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.

JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 3:30 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 17/06/19 19:54, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one
decision, and not the fact that these were people who had an
enormously effective personality cult surrounding them and that their
attraction to the people, the masses of millions of people who
desperately wanted them to be in power (at least for a while), was
almost entirely divorced from what they actually believed about
organizing a society.

I wish people would remember the basic difference between
rampant communism and rampant capitalism, viz:
 - in communism, man oppresses man
 - in capitalism it is the other way around

something something libertarianism is the best political philosophy
nobody asked for

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:25:59 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:42 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:32:34 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:25 PM, bitrex wrote:

"Charity" like the following heartwarming tale:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2018/07/18/an-alabama-man-walked-almost-20-miles-to-his-new-job-when-his-boss-found-out-he-gave-him-a-car/?utm_term=.d6fb8d72c403


Is not charity by any sane standard; the whole situation is insanity in
any first-world country. That a hero boss then comes along and with a
snap of the fingers is able to convert the situation into a sane one,
what it should have been all along, is more like leveraging
institutionalized madness to enforce their own power.



That is to say if you were to do a dollars-and-cents accounting of the
GDP that was actually gained or lost by going thru this big dramatic
process it would likely end up a money-loser as compared to if the
employee had just had a car available to use to get to work, potentially
on the taxpayer dime, from the outset, and could start working at full
potential immediately.

But everyone will clap themselves on the back and marvel at the ties of
brotherhood on display here and be happy about it while America ends up
a little poorer overall.

Two follow-ups to your own post. Are you done yet?

It's admirable that you take old, useless junk to Goodwill instead of
to the dump, where you'd probably have to pay.

Aside from that, what have you done to help the less fortunate?


The Salvation Army considers clothing "useless junk" too, apparently.

Like many Christian charities in the US they're too busy trying to
convert all the gays and fund political campaigns to revoke people's
Constitutional rights to bother with it I guess.

a billion bucks a year donated to tax-exempt religious organizations to
lobby politicians for abortion restrictions is not "charity."

OK, I'll take "nothing" as my answer.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:48:02 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Slavers.

Slavery was universal throughout, no doubt before, recorded history.
What's remarkable is how Western democracies ended it.

It's still going on in lots of places.

Slaves were at least valuable property. It didn't make sense to
mass-murder them.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[bitrex]

On 6/17/19 12:40 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:jyONE.21739$EZ1.15827@fx08.iad:

On 6/17/19 11:29 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:04:00 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 6/17/19 2:46 AM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 9:15:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:41:33 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 2:04:59 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:

The Impeach Trump movement started before he was
inaugurated.

There is no movement, just a bunch of loudmouths.

The Impeach thing has serious organization and serious money
behind it. Steyer alone has spent tens of millions.

Expensive hot air is still... hot air. Organized hot air...
well, if it'll turn a turbine, I'm all for it.

Google impeach trump movement

But that would be paying 'way too much attention to... hot air.
I'll search on more useful strings, like 'silver solder
clearance' or somesuch, and find something worth reading about.


A large proportion of the Republican electorate believes it's
the government's job to round up the people they don't like and
gas and shoot them and their families and fill up mass graves in
the name of Jesus.


No. The large proportion of Republicans are serious Christians
who donate time and money to helping the less fortunate.

Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=who+really+cares&crid=
37BNZJ5FOFEPV&spr
efix=who+really%2Caps%2C190&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_10


The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred
million starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

The most violent group in the USA now is Antifa.



Antifa is nowhere on this list, how they could be described as
"the most violent" without actually killing anyone is mysterious
or perhaps a definition of "violence" I'm unfamiliar with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#Atta
c
ks_by_type

"115 right-wing inspired terror incidents. 35% of these were
foiled (meaning no attack happened) and 29% resulted in
fatalities. These terror incidents caused 79 deaths.

63 Islamist inspired terror incidents. 76% of these were foiled
(meaning no attack happened) and 13% resulted in fatalities. These
terror incidents caused 90 deaths.

19 incidents inspired by left-wing ideologies (including
eco-terrorism). 20% of these were foiled (meaning no attack
happened) and 10% resulted in fatalities. These terror incidents
caused 7 deaths."


You appear far better at finding and re-posting actual facts than
Larkin does.

in some world-views all Islamist terror attacks count as "left wing"
terror attacks because...who knows, as if I've donated any money or time
to supporting the Islamic worldview regularly. I don't even buy gas from
them when I can avoid it. I never told anyone to convert

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:54:28 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/17/19 12:50 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 17/06/19 17:45, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:21:25 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 17/06/19 16:29, John Larkin wrote:
The great mass murders of the last century, a couple hundred million
starved and murdered, were engineered by socialists.

Except for those in that centuries, previous centuries,
and the current century that can only be described as
capitalists - and who embody and demonstrate traditional
libertarian ideals.

I was thinking of Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim, Castro, Maduro.
Who did you have in mind?

Those people were indeed grade one bastards.

Slavers are the obvious example.

But there are many less extreme ones. All you have to do
is look at the fascist and/or religious dictatorships.



JL isn't particularly hip to the influence time or culture in his
analysis of world history; in his universe Hitler and Stalin and Mao
became "socialist" one day and all evil sprung out of that one decision,
and not the fact that these were people who had an enormously effective
personality cult surrounding them and that their attraction to the
people, the masses of millions of people who desperately wanted them to
be in power (at least for a while), was almost entirely divorced from
what they actually believed about organizing a society.

What were Hitler, Stalin, and Mao's actual convictions on what
principles should be used to organize a society? Well if you read their
writings what you'll notice is that for the most part it seems like they
didn't really have many. Or at least nothing particularly consistent. It
varied with time and political necessity. The only really consistent
thing about them was that they were inconsistent in what they believed
about things

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.


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[Steve Wilson]

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highland_snip_technology.com> wrote:

Their most dangerous conviction was that they were always right about
everything and should therefore control everything.

The least dangerous thing that attitude causes is to wreck the
economy.

Sounds like Trump.

He now wants to change the constitution so he can become king for life!