OT: Suicide or genocide?

[Clive Arthur]

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

People like these don't die. They just stop breathing.

 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:26:58 +0100, Clive Arthur
<cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

The third possibility is an epidemic breakout of common sense.
Unlikely, I admit, but it happens.

But actually, unorganized popular wisdom is often more correct than
Top Scientist officially sanctioned panic.

Florida has fabulous beaches, especially on the Gulf coasts. Beautiful
white sugar sand, dunes, little motels with kitchens.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 12:27 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 18/04/20 14:26, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html


Kool aid. Although probably for /other/ people.

Well, it is one way of getting your inheritance and/or
promotion early

America is full of dudes who like to call other people "sheep" but have
never even dated more than one woman at the same time, like there's some
Constitutional stipulation against that.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 18/04/20 14:26, Clive Arthur wrote:

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

Kool aid. Although probably for /other/ people.

Well, it is one way of getting your inheritance and/or
promotion early

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 12:11 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 4/18/2020 11:24 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't
lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html


--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable.  The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed.  Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured.  But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur


America is full of narcissists who fully believe they're immortal and
"bad stuff" like illness and death only happens to "bad" people

Like the type of man who drinks four days a week but still swears that
weed is a "gateway drug."

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 11:24 AM, dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

America is full of narcissists who fully believe they're immortal and
"bad stuff" like illness and death only happens to "bad" people. And
case in point - not once has a good person ever presented a confirmed
first-hand report that they died in a car accident. Yeah they say it
happens but sounds like fake news to me, where's the evidence?

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 12:53:50 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:26:58 +0100, Clive Arthur
cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

The third possibility is an epidemic breakout of common sense.

That's clearly the exact opposite of what's happening. It's bunch of uncomprehending idiots putting themselves (and the rest of the population) at risk. Trump's lining up with them is precisely the kind of irresponsible idiocy he does seem to make a habit of.

> Unlikely, I admit, but it happens.

Irresponsible idiocy shows up a lot more often.

But actually, unorganized popular wisdom is often more correct than
Top Scientist officially sanctioned panic.

Nobody is panicking - Trump does seem to be laying rather more emphasis on the damage to economy than he is on potential losses of life, but that's probably more his contempt for his subjects than any kind of loss of control.

And the enthusiasm of the dimmer members of the US public to increase their risk of getting Covid-19 and their chance of passing it on to their family and friends is anything but wise.

Florida has fabulous beaches, especially on the Gulf coasts. Beautiful
white sugar sand, dunes, little motels with kitchens.

And lots of irresponsible idiots who want to catch Covid-19 and give it to everybody else.

In Australia the 20 to 29-year-olds are getting infected more often than any other age group.

https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020/04/covid-19-cases-in-australia-by-gender-and-age_13.png

Parties are a great way of sharing Covid-19.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:51:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 4/18/2020 12:47 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?



Nobody has found a good way to codify "The wealthy get to do whatever
they want and the poor get the State's gun up their ass and their every
move controlled" into a coherent and acceptable written legal framework,
yet, though the United States has made the most advances in this area.

How did you acquire your proctological fixation?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 10:53 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:26:58 +0100, Clive Arthur
cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

The third possibility is an epidemic breakout of common sense.
Unlikely, I admit, but it happens.

But actually, unorganized popular wisdom is often more correct than
Top Scientist officially sanctioned panic.

Florida has fabulous beaches, especially on the Gulf coasts. Beautiful
white sugar sand, dunes, little motels with kitchens.

Americans are so good and whipped they'll beg for the opportunity to
risk death for billionaires for $11 an hour - and be happy about it!
These people make excellent slaves.

 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 12:56 PM, Pimpom wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:11 PM, bitrex wrote:

America is full of dudes who like to call other people "sheep" but have
never even dated more than one woman at the same time, like there's some
Constitutional stipulation against that.

I just passed through the living room where my daughter was watching an
old episode of "Friends". One of the men was saying something about a
man dating only one woman at the same time. Half a minute later, I sit
down at my desk, open your post and I see this! Talk about coincidence.
Or is there some mystical force at work here?

LOL!

The reality is there are all sorts of women in the world amenable to all
sorts of things, any man who tells you he's got women's universal
"nature" somehow all figured out is telling a fib.

One universal constant though, that seems to annoy women very much, more
than just about anything, is when a man lies to her. So the first step
if one wanted to pull something like that off successfully is: never lie
about it. Verily, great woe awaits the deceiver who attempts to engage
in that behavior by way of deception.

In any case I'm a one-woman guy these days I am sure there are men out
there doing other things but younger men than me, I expect. it's
exhausting and ideally as a man gets older he doesn't need his ego
buttressed that way so much anymore.

 

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 12:47:22 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?

Don't forget alcohol -- 88,000 annually.
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

But there's a simple cure for this -- no need for a lock-down,
just eliminate food. Everyone succumbing to anything has, at
one point, eaten food. Eliminate food for a year or two, and
we eliminate all human disease, 100%.

Simple. What could possibly go wrong?

(And as a bonus, you eliminate income inequality at the same time.)

So let's continue preventing people from doing anything they'd do
to put food on their tables, and we'll save lives. It's for the
children.

Grins,
James

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 12:47 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?

Nobody has found a good way to codify "The wealthy get to do whatever
they want and the poor get the State's gun up their ass and their every
move controlled" into a coherent and acceptable written legal framework,
yet, though the United States has made the most advances in this area.

 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:15:56 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 12:47:22 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?

Don't forget alcohol -- 88,000 annually.
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

But there's a simple cure for this -- no need for a lock-down,
just eliminate food. Everyone succumbing to anything has, at
one point, eaten food. Eliminate food for a year or two, and
we eliminate all human disease, 100%.

Simple. What could possibly go wrong?

(And as a bonus, you eliminate income inequality at the same time.)

So let's continue preventing people from doing anything they'd do
to put food on their tables, and we'll save lives. It's for the
children.

Grins,
James

Chicago taxes cigarettes over $7 per pack. Many low-income smokers
spend over 20% of their income on cigarettes.

Who here has ever smoked? I'd like to know.




--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:27:14 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/04/20 14:26, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

Kool aid. Although probably for /other/ people.

Well, it is one way of getting your inheritance and/or
promotion early

I had a gang of lawyers and estate planners work me over. Among other
things, I have two years of insurance to cover a nursing home. They
said that was actually too much, because most people die within a year
of entering a senior-care facility.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Pimpom]

On 4/18/2020 10:11 PM, bitrex wrote:

America is full of dudes who like to call other people "sheep" but have
never even dated more than one woman at the same time, like there's some
Constitutional stipulation against that.

I just passed through the living room where my daughter was
watching an old episode of "Friends". One of the men was saying
something about a man dating only one woman at the same time.
Half a minute later, I sit down at my desk, open your post and I
see this! Talk about coincidence. Or is there some mystical force
at work here?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-04-18 13:28, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:15:56 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 12:47:22 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?

Don't forget alcohol -- 88,000 annually.
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

But there's a simple cure for this -- no need for a lock-down,
just eliminate food. Everyone succumbing to anything has, at
one point, eaten food. Eliminate food for a year or two, and
we eliminate all human disease, 100%.

Simple. What could possibly go wrong?

(And as a bonus, you eliminate income inequality at the same time.)

So let's continue preventing people from doing anything they'd do
to put food on their tables, and we'll save lives. It's for the
children.

Grins,
James

Chicago taxes cigarettes over $7 per pack. Many low-income smokers
spend over 20% of their income on cigarettes.

Who here has ever smoked? I'd like to know.

I did for a couple of years in high school, but never since.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[bitrex]

On 4/18/2020 1:28 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 10:15:56 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 12:47:22 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 9:27:07 AM UTC-4, Clive Arthur wrote:
Not a normally reliable news source, but the pictures probably don't lie.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8232253/Americans-answer-Trumps-call-liberate-states-governors-stringent-coronavirus-lockdowns.html

--
Cheers
Clive

Seems reasonable. The shutdown was to prevent hospitals from being
overwhelmed. Not to prevent people from getting sick, but just to
make sure they don't all get sick at the same time.

Well, we've managed that -- hospitals are underwhelmed -- so why not
get back to work?

About 40,000 Americans die in car accidents every year. Lots more are
grievously injured. But we don't shut the country down over that. (Or
ban cars, for that matter. Instead, we bail car companies out.)

Cheers,
James Arthur

Two ways to save a lot of lives:

Outlaw cigarettes.

Set the speed governors on all cars to 50 MPH.


The cigarette industry struck a devil's bargain with the states. Let
us keep giving millions of people emphysema and cancer and you get
more tax revenue.

From wiki:

According to a 2014 review in the New England Journal of Medicine,
tobacco will, if current smoking patterns persist, kill about 1
billion people in the 21st century, half of them before the age of
70.[9]


Why is no-one panicked about that?

Don't forget alcohol -- 88,000 annually.
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm

But there's a simple cure for this -- no need for a lock-down,
just eliminate food. Everyone succumbing to anything has, at
one point, eaten food. Eliminate food for a year or two, and
we eliminate all human disease, 100%.

Simple. What could possibly go wrong?

(And as a bonus, you eliminate income inequality at the same time.)

So let's continue preventing people from doing anything they'd do
to put food on their tables, and we'll save lives. It's for the
children.

Grins,
James

Chicago taxes cigarettes over $7 per pack. Many low-income smokers
spend over 20% of their income on cigarettes.

Who here has ever smoked? I'd like to know.

Oh I expect, the right-winger who wants freedom for himself but wants to
know everyone else's medical history in detail.