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Tom Del Rosso
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
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Tom Del Rosso
Guest
John Larkin wrote:
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
M
Michael Terrell
Guest
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 10:34:17 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
How about 'Bill Sloman the second'?
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 06:45:59 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:drct1fh8j5153c7o95ramuu5ef6mgms5tf@4ax.com:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 04:41:52 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:dq4t1f56v1p4tug65eecma69tseheheq2q@4ax.com:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:
On 1/14/20 7:19 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 00:10:26 +0000, Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:
Gulags await right-wingers if Trump re-elected, he reckons:
https://tinyurl.com/ue4nfz6
Hatred makes the world go 'round.
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown
people with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go
to prison for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Most are as he describes. Some, like you, are simply too stupid
to
see it.
To any mature, intelligent observer, it is blatantly obvious,
and
those of us whom have talked with some of you dopey dipshits
You sure didn't last a month.
You really are a retarded fuck. "dipshit" is a colloquialism not
your special poop cop arrest moment.
You are STUPID, Larkin!
Since you don't have a name, we have to invent ones for you. We could
retire Always Wrong and start using DungBeetle.
How about 'Bill Sloman the second'?
B
bitrex
Guest
On 1/15/20 2:07 PM, John Larkin wrote:
Definitely not what I said.
> So it follows that you think you know everything.
lol
The Evangelical Right and their buddies want to strip rights from my
friends and family and turn America into their bonkers despotic
theocratic vision of what they think the Bible says and it doesn't even
say the things they believe it does, anywhere. And they think Trump is
their man to do it.
They can piss right off.
My New England ancestors were probably told by the British at some point
"we have different needs and political views" which mostly involved
fucking them over. They tossed their tea in the harbor and then shot
them up right down the street from me in Lexington. PISS OFF!
Being habitually annoyed that one doesn't have the right to fuck me or
someone else over because they don't run everything is not a "different
political theory."
Never in human history will the most money be spent on an election to
convince the least number of bumblefucks who to vote for than the
upcoming US one.
Every fabrication and lie and "fake news" and dirty ploy and doctored
photo/video and setup-smear tactic under the sun will be used by all
parties to the point that most people will have tuned out long before
the election actually happens, unable to make sense of any of it.
Probably 50 billion dollars will be spent on the effort all told. All to
convince a few bumblefucks in Ohio and Florida that they should vote
this way or that.
In a certain way CD's fears about the least common denominator of
society determining its course are well-founded.
You seem to think that anyone who has a different life, or lives
somewhere else, or has different needs and different political
theories, is stupid.
Definitely not what I said.
> So it follows that you think you know everything.
lol
That's repulsive. Literally hateful.
The Evangelical Right and their buddies want to strip rights from my
friends and family and turn America into their bonkers despotic
theocratic vision of what they think the Bible says and it doesn't even
say the things they believe it does, anywhere. And they think Trump is
their man to do it.
They can piss right off.
My New England ancestors were probably told by the British at some point
"we have different needs and political views" which mostly involved
fucking them over. They tossed their tea in the harbor and then shot
them up right down the street from me in Lexington. PISS OFF!
Being habitually annoyed that one doesn't have the right to fuck me or
someone else over because they don't run everything is not a "different
political theory."
B
bitrex
Guest
On 1/15/20 3:28 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
If my neighbor is stockpiling guns, and I'm not, and constantly talking
like they want to use 'em, then I must assume they're planning an
attack. I would be a fool to assume otherwise.
And that's exactly what right-wing gun nuts tend to do.
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
If my neighbor is stockpiling guns, and I'm not, and constantly talking
like they want to use 'em, then I must assume they're planning an
attack. I would be a fool to assume otherwise.
And that's exactly what right-wing gun nuts tend to do.
B
bitrex
Guest
On 1/15/20 3:01 PM, John Larkin wrote:
People who stockpile weapons are planning to use them. It isn't
rocket-science.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
People who stockpile weapons are planning to use them. It isn't
rocket-science.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:28:28 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
I think that one's politics tracks one's personality. And leftists
sort of by definition want more communal control and less individual
decision making. In other words, they think that there should be more
rules, and that they should make those rules, which means that they
think they are are right and other people are wrong, or evil, or
stupid.
Some things, like economics and social dynamics, are so complex and
chaotic that nobody can understand them. That doesn't stop leftists
from thinking they should assert control of those things. The result
is unintended consequences. Some systems are better left alone.
The California forest fires, and the homeless crisis, are unintended
consequences of people taking charge, making rules, spending public
money, being wrong, making things worse, and doubling down on failure.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
I think that one's politics tracks one's personality. And leftists
sort of by definition want more communal control and less individual
decision making. In other words, they think that there should be more
rules, and that they should make those rules, which means that they
think they are are right and other people are wrong, or evil, or
stupid.
Some things, like economics and social dynamics, are so complex and
chaotic that nobody can understand them. That doesn't stop leftists
from thinking they should assert control of those things. The result
is unintended consequences. Some systems are better left alone.
The California forest fires, and the homeless crisis, are unintended
consequences of people taking charge, making rules, spending public
money, being wrong, making things worse, and doubling down on failure.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
C
Cursitor Doom
Guest
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:29:20 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:
>How about 'Bill Sloman the second'?
Nope, that's bitrex.
--
No deal? No problem! :-D
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:
>How about 'Bill Sloman the second'?
Nope, that's bitrex.
--
No deal? No problem! :-D
B
bitrex
Guest
On 1/15/20 6:07 PM, John Larkin wrote:
There are plenty of things as a left-libertarian I think there should be
fewer rules about. They don't sit well with the US right which as of
late tends to be staunchly authoritarian, wants larger police budgets,
larger military budgets, locked-down borders, and the government up the
ass of everyone's life who isn't white & wealthy.
I wasn't born to lick police boots. Sorry, not sorry. Must be the
Scots-Irish half.
"Sarah Sanders, now a FoxNews talking head, on war powers: 'I canât
think of anything dumber than allowing Congress to take over our foreign
policy ⌠The last thing we want to do is push powers into Congressâ
hands and take them away from the president.â (How could James Madison
have gotten it so wrong!)"
Sarah Sanders can't understand the Constitution it's too complex
The homeless "crisis" is among other reasons a consequence of decades of
massive deficit spending in an attempt to prop up a faltering global
empire (see military spending, above.) Keeping on spending money on
credit and keeping interest rates low for decades debases the currency!
it makes da people who aren't consistently getting paid more money year
over year to do the same job go broke, see?
It's not just a matter of "spending public money" they're spending money
they don't even have.
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:28:28 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
I think that one's politics tracks one's personality. And leftists
sort of by definition want more communal control and less individual
decision making. In other words, they think that there should be more
rules, and that they should make those rules, which means that they
think they are are right and other people are wrong, or evil, or
stupid.
There are plenty of things as a left-libertarian I think there should be
fewer rules about. They don't sit well with the US right which as of
late tends to be staunchly authoritarian, wants larger police budgets,
larger military budgets, locked-down borders, and the government up the
ass of everyone's life who isn't white & wealthy.
I wasn't born to lick police boots. Sorry, not sorry. Must be the
Scots-Irish half.
Some things, like economics and social dynamics, are so complex and
chaotic that nobody can understand them. That doesn't stop leftists
from thinking they should assert control of those things. The result
is unintended consequences. Some systems are better left alone.
"Sarah Sanders, now a FoxNews talking head, on war powers: 'I canât
think of anything dumber than allowing Congress to take over our foreign
policy ⌠The last thing we want to do is push powers into Congressâ
hands and take them away from the president.â (How could James Madison
have gotten it so wrong!)"
Sarah Sanders can't understand the Constitution it's too complex
The California forest fires, and the homeless crisis, are unintended
consequences of people taking charge, making rules, spending public
money, being wrong, making things worse, and doubling down on failure.
The homeless "crisis" is among other reasons a consequence of decades of
massive deficit spending in an attempt to prop up a faltering global
empire (see military spending, above.) Keeping on spending money on
credit and keeping interest rates low for decades debases the currency!
it makes da people who aren't consistently getting paid more money year
over year to do the same job go broke, see?
It's not just a matter of "spending public money" they're spending money
they don't even have.
T
Tom Del Rosso
Guest
bitrex wrote:
I would reach the same conclusion.
> And that's exactly what right-wing gun nuts tend to do.
But no, they don't talk like they want to use them.
Nor are gun "collectors" even a very large group.
If my neighbor is stockpiling guns, and I'm not, and constantly
talking like they want to use 'em, then I must assume they're
planning an attack. I would be a fool to assume otherwise.
I would reach the same conclusion.
> And that's exactly what right-wing gun nuts tend to do.
But no, they don't talk like they want to use them.
Nor are gun "collectors" even a very large group.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:30:53 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
Do you personally know any evangelicals? I've known some, still do,
and they are very nice, gentle, generous people. Their only drawback
is an earnest desire to save my soul, probably a lost cause.
You need to, and enjoy, hating. You make up people to hate, because
there aren't enough bad people immediately available.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
On 1/15/20 2:07 PM, John Larkin wrote:
Never in human history will the most money be spent on an election to
convince the least number of bumblefucks who to vote for than the
upcoming US one.
Every fabrication and lie and "fake news" and dirty ploy and doctored
photo/video and setup-smear tactic under the sun will be used by all
parties to the point that most people will have tuned out long before
the election actually happens, unable to make sense of any of it.
Probably 50 billion dollars will be spent on the effort all told. All to
convince a few bumblefucks in Ohio and Florida that they should vote
this way or that.
In a certain way CD's fears about the least common denominator of
society determining its course are well-founded.
You seem to think that anyone who has a different life, or lives
somewhere else, or has different needs and different political
theories, is stupid.
Definitely not what I said.
So it follows that you think you know everything.
lol
That's repulsive. Literally hateful.
The Evangelical Right and their buddies want to strip rights from my
friends and family and turn America into their bonkers despotic
theocratic vision of what they think the Bible says and it doesn't even
say the things they believe it does, anywhere. And they think Trump is
their man to do it.
Do you personally know any evangelicals? I've known some, still do,
and they are very nice, gentle, generous people. Their only drawback
is an earnest desire to save my soul, probably a lost cause.
They can piss right off.
My New England ancestors were probably told by the British at some point
"we have different needs and political views" which mostly involved
fucking them over. They tossed their tea in the harbor and then shot
them up right down the street from me in Lexington. PISS OFF!
Being habitually annoyed that one doesn't have the right to fuck me or
someone else over because they don't run everything is not a "different
political theory."
You need to, and enjoy, hating. You make up people to hate, because
there aren't enough bad people immediately available.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:40:32 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
Some people like guns, as machines. I think they are cool.
And some people think they have a right to protect themselves and
their families from burglers and such.
I know some gun owners, who are nice, moral, generous, very careful
people who want to be able to defend themselves if required.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
On 1/15/20 3:01 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
People who stockpile weapons are planning to use them. It isn't
rocket-science.
Some people like guns, as machines. I think they are cool.
And some people think they have a right to protect themselves and
their families from burglers and such.
I know some gun owners, who are nice, moral, generous, very careful
people who want to be able to defend themselves if required.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 17:36:49 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
Is your neighbor stockpiling guns? And planning to use them?
The ones that you invent, so that you can have someone to fear and
hate.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
On 1/15/20 3:28 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
If my neighbor is stockpiling guns, and I'm not, and constantly talking
like they want to use 'em, then I must assume they're planning an
attack. I would be a fool to assume otherwise.
Is your neighbor stockpiling guns? And planning to use them?
And that's exactly what right-wing gun nuts tend to do.
The ones that you invent, so that you can have someone to fear and
hate.
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 6:07:58 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
People silly enough to support Trump don't realise that they need to be better educated, so there would be a degree of compulsion involved.
They get them to say roughly what they want them to say. We don't get to see the reports about the occasions when they've gone after smarter people who have refused to be drawn.
Not true. Anybody who thinks that Trump is honest and working towards anything except his own advantage has to be gullible.
Some otherwise intelligent people are that gullible, and consequently look remarkably stupid when sounding off on the subject - as you do.
The are lots of other political choices that don't deserve or earn the same kind of condemnation.
> So it follows that you think you know everything.
To somebody as inept at reasoning as John Larkin seems to be.
> That's repulsive. Literally hateful.
John Larkin has a high opinion of himself, and he gets upset when other people don't share it. He gets excited enough about the subject to find them hateful, which is something of an over-reaction. Grown-ups are expected to have sense of proportion, but he doesn't seem to have mastered that either.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:27:54 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 1/14/20 9:16 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:10:30 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
Gulags await right-wingers if Trump re-elected, he reckons:
https://tinyurl.com/ue4nfz6
--
Cursitor Doom's enthusiasm for ZeroHedge is an aspect of his right-wing nitwit mindset.
The fact that an undercover journalist was able to lead a low level Sanders supporter into an expressing an opinion that supported educating people
in prison camps
People silly enough to support Trump don't realise that they need to be better educated, so there would be a degree of compulsion involved.
who current support Trump into recognising the error of their ways reflects the fact that quite a few people are as stupid as Cursitor Doom. Some may be even stupider.
The Veritas people are great. They manage to get all sorts of people
to say what they really think. I think beer is often involved.
They get them to say roughly what they want them to say. We don't get to see the reports about the occasions when they've gone after smarter people who have refused to be drawn.
Never in human history will the most money be spent on an election to
convince the least number of bumblefucks who to vote for than the
upcoming US one.
Every fabrication and lie and "fake news" and dirty ploy and doctored
photo/video and setup-smear tactic under the sun will be used by all
parties to the point that most people will have tuned out long before
the election actually happens, unable to make sense of any of it.
Probably 50 billion dollars will be spent on the effort all told. All to
convince a few bumblefucks in Ohio and Florida that they should vote
this way or that.
In a certain way CD's fears about the least common denominator of
society determining its course are well-founded.
You seem to think that anyone who has a different life, or lives
somewhere else, or has different needs and different political
theories, is stupid.
Not true. Anybody who thinks that Trump is honest and working towards anything except his own advantage has to be gullible.
Some otherwise intelligent people are that gullible, and consequently look remarkably stupid when sounding off on the subject - as you do.
The are lots of other political choices that don't deserve or earn the same kind of condemnation.
> So it follows that you think you know everything.
To somebody as inept at reasoning as John Larkin seems to be.
> That's repulsive. Literally hateful.
John Larkin has a high opinion of himself, and he gets upset when other people don't share it. He gets excited enough about the subject to find them hateful, which is something of an over-reaction. Grown-ups are expected to have sense of proportion, but he doesn't seem to have mastered that either.
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On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 10:07:14 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
The definition of "leftists" involved is clearly one written by right-wingers of the James Arthur kind, who find it convenient to claim that all left-wing opinions can be conflated with "communism" despite the fact that Karl Marx and the proto-communists got thrown out of the international socialist movement in
1871. Their perceived error was to endorse the "leading role of the party" which the rest of the socialist movement rejected as undemocratic and likely to lead to tyranny, as indeed it did in Stalin's Russia.
Leftist think that society should be run in a way that works for every member of society. Having the government make all the decisions isn't going to deliver that, and modern socialist governments are perfectly happy with a well regulated free market - some communal control, but a situation where the less well off end up with enough money to have more choices than they would if the rich had most of it (as they do in the US at the moment).
The was the error implicit in Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the leading role of the party. The international socialist movement rejected it back in 1871, but John Larkin isn't aware of this.
Free markets degenerate into cartels and monopolies if left entirely alone..
The US introduced anti-trust legislation in 1890 and followed it up with more in 1914. John Larkin's argument is clearly ill-informed.
John Larkin has strange ideas about how chaotic systems work. It's perfectly possible to stop them going off in unfortunate directions while leaving them free to explore more benign areas of the solution space.
That's what a regulated free market does. The USA isn't all that good at it because it lets organisations spend money on lobbyists who try to influence the regulations to suit the organisations paying the lobbyists.
The Californian and Australian forest fires are - to a large extent - consequences of people being free to sell fossil carbon as fuel which get burnt and adds CO2 to an atmosphere which already has more greenhouses gases than suits us.
Fuel reduction burns might - and at least in Australia, have - made them less catastrophic than they might have been, but higher average temperatures make forests more inflammable, and that's an unintended consequence of digging up lots of fossil carbon and selling it as fuel.
John Larkin doesn't know enough to be able to recognise bad decisions when he sees them, which leaves him happier with Donald Trump and right-wing politics than he ought to be.
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:28:28 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:48:06 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:43:04 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
America is full of stark-raving white nationalists who'd happily
start kicking in doors and wasting whole families of brown people
with their ARs the moment it seemed like they wouldn't go to prison
for doing so.
They go by various names like "NRA" and "Trump supporters"
That's not a bit true. You sound like a hater.
Sounds like a Democrat. Delusional.
Most people are delusional, in that their emotions usually overpower
their ability to observe and reason. But some people are just plain
mean. Some relish killing.
But that's what Bitrex was saying. I don't think wanting to kill is a
common trait. Yes people don't even know what thinking entails, but
being emotional doesn't mean they have an upside-down view of reality.
The left has reality upside down in countless ways. That's delusional
not emotional.
I think that one's politics tracks one's personality. And leftists
sort of by definition want more communal control and less individual
decision making.
The definition of "leftists" involved is clearly one written by right-wingers of the James Arthur kind, who find it convenient to claim that all left-wing opinions can be conflated with "communism" despite the fact that Karl Marx and the proto-communists got thrown out of the international socialist movement in
1871. Their perceived error was to endorse the "leading role of the party" which the rest of the socialist movement rejected as undemocratic and likely to lead to tyranny, as indeed it did in Stalin's Russia.
Leftist think that society should be run in a way that works for every member of society. Having the government make all the decisions isn't going to deliver that, and modern socialist governments are perfectly happy with a well regulated free market - some communal control, but a situation where the less well off end up with enough money to have more choices than they would if the rich had most of it (as they do in the US at the moment).
In other words, they think that there should be more
rules, and that they should make those rules, which means that they
think they are are right and other people are wrong, or evil, or
stupid.
The was the error implicit in Karl Marx's enthusiasm for the leading role of the party. The international socialist movement rejected it back in 1871, but John Larkin isn't aware of this.
Some things, like economics and social dynamics, are so complex and
chaotic that nobody can understand them. That doesn't stop leftists
from thinking they should assert control of those things. The result
is unintended consequences. Some systems are better left alone.
Free markets degenerate into cartels and monopolies if left entirely alone..
The US introduced anti-trust legislation in 1890 and followed it up with more in 1914. John Larkin's argument is clearly ill-informed.
John Larkin has strange ideas about how chaotic systems work. It's perfectly possible to stop them going off in unfortunate directions while leaving them free to explore more benign areas of the solution space.
That's what a regulated free market does. The USA isn't all that good at it because it lets organisations spend money on lobbyists who try to influence the regulations to suit the organisations paying the lobbyists.
The California forest fires, and the homeless crisis, are unintended
consequences of people taking charge, making rules, spending public
money, being wrong, making things worse, and doubling down on failure.
The Californian and Australian forest fires are - to a large extent - consequences of people being free to sell fossil carbon as fuel which get burnt and adds CO2 to an atmosphere which already has more greenhouses gases than suits us.
Fuel reduction burns might - and at least in Australia, have - made them less catastrophic than they might have been, but higher average temperatures make forests more inflammable, and that's an unintended consequence of digging up lots of fossil carbon and selling it as fuel.
John Larkin doesn't know enough to be able to recognise bad decisions when he sees them, which leaves him happier with Donald Trump and right-wing politics than he ought to be.
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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:d4cu1ftp8lj12a63u0fnpoq5r9ghqiasjs@4ax.com:
There are many folks posting without a name. Usenet IS anonymous,
idiot.
YOU chose to use your name. I see YOU and IDIOTS like you calling
me names. Funny how the others that use a nym instead of their name
do not suffer the BABY BULLSHIT retards like you attempt to put me
through.
You are the exact kind of person deserving of a shillelagh
correction. You are a dumb chump, you dung hump. So I should just
call you "The Hump" because getting over you is easy.
news:d4cu1ftp8lj12a63u0fnpoq5r9ghqiasjs@4ax.com:
Since you don't have a name, we have to invent ones for you. We
could
retire Always Wrong and start using DungBeetle.
There are many folks posting without a name. Usenet IS anonymous,
idiot.
YOU chose to use your name. I see YOU and IDIOTS like you calling
me names. Funny how the others that use a nym instead of their name
do not suffer the BABY BULLSHIT retards like you attempt to put me
through.
You are the exact kind of person deserving of a shillelagh
correction. You are a dumb chump, you dung hump. So I should just
call you "The Hump" because getting over you is easy.
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Bill Sloman
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On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 10:19:07 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
That's silly, but that's Cursitor Doom - an imperceptive and gullible twit.
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 13:29:20 -0800 (PST), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:
How about 'Bill Sloman the second'?
Nope, that's bitrex.
That's silly, but that's Cursitor Doom - an imperceptive and gullible twit.
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On 1/15/20 10:04 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
It is true that the bulk of suburban Trump supporters around my age are
the type of guy that thinks getting "wicked fahkin' wasted" and pooping
on someone's driveway is a cool prank, getting their third DUI and
having their Mom bail them out makes a good "war story", and generally
behaving like a 8 year old in a 45 y/o man's body like their hero for
attention is a great way for their greying middle-age twice-divorced and
skipping-out-on-child-support ass to behave as they can't find anything
better to do with their time. many of them are ripping off workman's
comp and SSDI so they can get high popping pills.
bunch of fails blaming everyone but themselves for their problems.
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:s26v1flis6egohoh582fvmi5a0ogv9rii1@4ax.com:
I think that one's politics tracks one's personality. And leftists
sort of by definition want more communal control and less individual
decision making.
Pathetic presumptions, both.
It is true that the bulk of suburban Trump supporters around my age are
the type of guy that thinks getting "wicked fahkin' wasted" and pooping
on someone's driveway is a cool prank, getting their third DUI and
having their Mom bail them out makes a good "war story", and generally
behaving like a 8 year old in a 45 y/o man's body like their hero for
attention is a great way for their greying middle-age twice-divorced and
skipping-out-on-child-support ass to behave as they can't find anything
better to do with their time. many of them are ripping off workman's
comp and SSDI so they can get high popping pills.
bunch of fails blaming everyone but themselves for their problems.
Guest
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in
news:r3bv1flqu5megosc5adeslc116opnhojqk@4ax.com:
You make up stupid shit about folks and believe it as truth. You are
just as bad as the Trumpanzee dumbfuck you have been standing behind.
Rod Serling did not roll over in his grave, he flat EXPLODED!
news:r3bv1flqu5megosc5adeslc116opnhojqk@4ax.com:
You need to, and enjoy, hating. You make up people to hate, because
there aren't enough bad people immediately available.
You make up stupid shit about folks and believe it as truth. You are
just as bad as the Trumpanzee dumbfuck you have been standing behind.
Rod Serling did not roll over in his grave, he flat EXPLODED!