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Anthony William Sloman
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On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:14:17 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
They are called pro-Russian separatists, and quite a few of them seem to members of the Russian military forces posing as local pro-Russian separatists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
There were 27 Australians killed when that flight went down, and 193 Dutch nationals. Australia and the Netherlands started legal action against Russia on the 22nd March this year, on the basis that it was their missile, fired by their troops, that shot down the aircraft. Most people are cheering on the Ukranians in their quest to get rid of these dangerous invaders.
That doesn\'t seem to be one of it\'s stated aims. In reality, NATO would like to see a more democratic government in Russia - one which was less prone to poisoning people outside Russia with Russian chemical warfare agents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok
\"Exterminating Russia\" would get rid of Putin, but it would create considerable anxiety and resentment. Engineering a regime change would be a much more attractive option, and Putin\'s recent activities may have generated a lot of enthusiasm inside Russia for just such a result.
> That\'s proved by HISTORY. NATO has aggressively expanded ever since the end of the Cold War.
It has proved attractive to quite a few countries bordering on the original NATO members. Defensive alliances don\'t \"expand aggressively\". They concentrate on being passively attractive.
> Imperialist warmongers should at least be honest about what they want.
Putin seems to be only imperialist warmonger around at the moment. He has actually started a war, though he isn\'t honest enough to call it that.
Looking at images of Ukranian cities that have been shelled and bombed into heaps of rubble, the word \"war\" does come to mind.
Looking at images of the burnt-out hulks of Russian tanks, the phrase \"losing the war they started\" also comes to mind.
John Doe has Flyguy\'s approach to research - he looks for phrases that suit his point of view, and ignores what they mean in the context in which they were used.
If he ever cited what he claims to have found we could probably nail him for text-chopping, but he settles for claiming to have done his research (by which he probably means reading Russia Today).
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
They are called pro-Russian separatists, and quite a few of them seem to members of the Russian military forces posing as local pro-Russian separatists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17
There were 27 Australians killed when that flight went down, and 193 Dutch nationals. Australia and the Netherlands started legal action against Russia on the 22nd March this year, on the basis that it was their missile, fired by their troops, that shot down the aircraft. Most people are cheering on the Ukranians in their quest to get rid of these dangerous invaders.
That doesn\'t seem to be one of it\'s stated aims. In reality, NATO would like to see a more democratic government in Russia - one which was less prone to poisoning people outside Russia with Russian chemical warfare agents.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novichok
\"Exterminating Russia\" would get rid of Putin, but it would create considerable anxiety and resentment. Engineering a regime change would be a much more attractive option, and Putin\'s recent activities may have generated a lot of enthusiasm inside Russia for just such a result.
> That\'s proved by HISTORY. NATO has aggressively expanded ever since the end of the Cold War.
It has proved attractive to quite a few countries bordering on the original NATO members. Defensive alliances don\'t \"expand aggressively\". They concentrate on being passively attractive.
> Imperialist warmongers should at least be honest about what they want.
Putin seems to be only imperialist warmonger around at the moment. He has actually started a war, though he isn\'t honest enough to call it that.
Looking at images of Ukranian cities that have been shelled and bombed into heaps of rubble, the word \"war\" does come to mind.
Looking at images of the burnt-out hulks of Russian tanks, the phrase \"losing the war they started\" also comes to mind.
John Doe has Flyguy\'s approach to research - he looks for phrases that suit his point of view, and ignores what they mean in the context in which they were used.
If he ever cited what he claims to have found we could probably nail him for text-chopping, but he settles for claiming to have done his research (by which he probably means reading Russia Today).
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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