OT! OT! Not in Arizona

Jim Thompson · Feb 7, 2004

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:13:44 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

[snip]

It is my understanding that fully 40 states have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause if applied to gay
*marriages*.

...Jim Thompson

This is not an option- they are bound by the Constitution...
[snip]
And for what? This marriage thing
looks like it's between middle-aged to older gay people who are a
pathetically insignificant percentage of the population- let them get
married- it will not be the end of the world.

Of course not, it's just the principle of the thing. We need to go
out and impeach a bunch of lazy-ass judges and let them know that
legislation from the bench will not be tolerated.

...Jim Thompson
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Fred Bloggs · Feb 7, 2004

Mjolinor wrote:

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:07:27 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

[snip]

Full Faith and Credit clause

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Section one of Article four of the United States Constitution is known
as the Full Faith and Credit clause.

[snip]

It is my understanding that fully 40 states have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause if applied to gay
*marriages*.

...Jim Thompson

This is not an option- they are bound by the Constitution and cannot
pick and choose which of its Articles they validate. You have been
around long enough to know this whole controversy is 150% politics- it
creates platforms for notoriety and advancement for the crusaders- it is
a waste of time and taxpayer money-all of the state laws will be
challenged and greatly publicized in the Federal District Courts with as
much fanfare and publicity as it takes to saturate the market for
politicians and mass media products. And for what? This marriage thing
looks like it's between middle-aged to older gay people who are a
pathetically insignificant percentage of the population- let them get
married- it will not be the end of the world.

Roll on the discovery of time travel, they can be drowned at birth then.

You better believe it because this is exactly where we are headed with
all the gene research and discovery of connections between genes and
various undesirable results or defects. You might think about how many
of us wouldn't be here now if our parents had this foreknowledge and
decision option:_) Maybe it's better for God to decide afterall...

John Woodgate · Feb 7, 2004

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
<fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in <40250123$0$38554$abc4f4c3@news.w
anadoo.nl&gt

about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

I don't think everbody would obey such new laws. I know at least 2 that
wouldn't

It would be a capital offence, of course. Checkmate.
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John Woodgate · Feb 7, 2004

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rene Tschaggelar <none@none.net>
wrote (in <402503f3$0$701$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch&gt

about 'OT! OT! Not
in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

Actually, no. Artificial insemination is the key.
Breeding based on scientific results for highest whatever output.
Done on cows since ages.

With sheep, it's called ewegenics.
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The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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Mark J. · Feb 7, 2004

In news:40251467.8080404@nospam.com (Fred Bloggs):

Mjolinor wrote:
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:40250EB2.7040106@nospam.com...

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:07:27 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of
impeachment, with trial to start on Monday ;-)

[snip]

Full Faith and Credit clause

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Section one of Article four of the United States Constitution is
known as the Full Faith and Credit clause.

[snip]

It is my understanding that fully 40 states have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause if applied to gay
*marriages*.

...Jim Thompson

This is not an option- they are bound by the Constitution and cannot
pick and choose which of its Articles they validate. You have been
around long enough to know this whole controversy is 150% politics- it
creates platforms for notoriety and advancement for the crusaders- it
is a waste of time and taxpayer money-all of the state laws will be
challenged and greatly publicized in the Federal District Courts with
as much fanfare and publicity as it takes to saturate the market for
politicians and mass media products. And for what? This marriage thing
looks like it's between middle-aged to older gay people who are a
pathetically insignificant percentage of the population- let them get
married- it will not be the end of the world.

Roll on the discovery of time travel, they can be drowned at birth
then.

You better believe it because this is exactly where we are headed with
all the gene research and discovery of connections between genes and
various undesirable results or defects. You might think about how many
of us wouldn't be here now if our parents had this foreknowledge and
decision option:_) Maybe it's better for God to decide afterall...

Kind-of an offshoot here, but on the discovery channel a few months ago
there was a program about genes and some of the research we're doing.
Scientists successfully isolated the gene in fruit flies which gives their
eyes the typical reddish color. So they removed or replaced the gene and
presto, fruit flies with white eyes. But then something very interesting
happened: they ceased reproducing altogether. The females would sit alone,
while the males formed long "chains" which continuously tried to reproduce
with each other, quite unsuccessfully I might add. The net result was that
the entire colony died out.

Regards,
Mark

Jim Thompson · Feb 7, 2004

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 17:22:51 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rene Tschaggelar <none@none.net
wrote (in <402503f3$0$701$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch&gt about 'OT! OT! Not
in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:
Actually, no. Artificial insemination is the key.
Breeding based on scientific results for highest whatever output.
Done on cows since ages.

With sheep, it's called ewegenics.

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

John Woodgate · Feb 7, 2004

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote (in <40251467.8080404@nospam.com&gt

about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona',
on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

Maybe it's better for God to decide afterall...

Ah, but which god? Moloch was one who made fun decisions about child
survival.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

John Woodgate · Feb 7, 2004

I read in sci.electronics.design that Mark J. <127.0.0.1@?.?> wrote (in
<4OqdnVlkioWfgrjdRVn-gg@buckeye-express.com&gt

about 'OT! OT! Not in
Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

Kind-of an offshoot here, but on the discovery channel a few months ago
there was a program about genes and some of the research we're doing.
Scientists successfully isolated the gene in fruit flies which gives
their eyes the typical reddish color. So they removed or replaced the
gene and presto, fruit flies with white eyes. But then something very
interesting happened: they ceased reproducing altogether. The females
would sit alone, while the males formed long "chains" which continuously
tried to reproduce with each other, quite unsuccessfully I might add.
The net result was that the entire colony died out.

There are many, many factors that influence reproductive behaviour and
success. The altered gene may not have directly made the males homo;,
for example. I'm not sure that fruit-fly vision is completely
characterised, and the 'white' eyes may have looked super-attractive and
feminine in UV or IR. Consider the vary rare violet iris colour in
humans. It looked very enticing when the eyes were Elizabeth Taylor's,
but think of the effect if Saddam had 'em.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

Stefan Heinzmann · Feb 7, 2004

John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote (in <40251467.8080404@nospam.com&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona',
on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

Maybe it's better for God to decide afterall...

Ah, but which god? Moloch was one who made fun decisions about child
survival.

Well, the *right* one, of course ;-)

--
Cheers
Stefan

Roger Gt · Feb 7, 2004

"Stefan Heinzmann" wrote in message

John Woodgate wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote in 'OT! OT! Not in
Arizona',
on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

Maybe it's better for God to decide
afterall...

Ah, but which god? Moloch was one who made fun
decisions about child
survival.

Well, the *right* one, of course ;-)

And who decided which God is the "right" one?

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Roger Gt · Feb 7, 2004

"Jim Thompson" wrote

Fred Bloggs wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
[snip]
It is my understanding that fully 40 states
have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause
if applied to gay
*marriages*. ...Jim Thompson

This is not an option- they are bound by the
Constitution...
[snip]
And for what? This marriage thing
looks like it's between middle-aged to older
gay people who are a
pathetically insignificant percentage of the
population- let them get
married- it will not be the end of the world.

Of course not, it's just the principle of the
thing. We need to go
out and impeach a bunch of lazy-ass judges and
let them know that
legislation from the bench will not be
tolerated.

The only principle that counts is that all laws
must comply with the Constitution of the United
States. Nothing more!

If the news reports I heard were correct, the
court was ask to correct "Existing legislation"
which discriminated against a particular group and
the legislature ask for "Guidance" as to how to
correct the flaw. The court did not 'legislate'
is corrected the law to comply with the
Constitution!

By the way, polygamy is still practiced in parts
of northern Arizona too. The only enforcement is
applied to welfare fraud. As I have heard.

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The Eternal Squire · Feb 10, 2004

Abraham did!

The right G-d is the G-d of Isaac, Abraham, and Jacob, and He goes by
several
names: YVYH (if you are Jewish), Jesus (if you are Christian), Aslan (if
you are Narnian), Maleldil (if you like C.S. Lewis), or Illuvatar (if you
prefer
Elvin theology).

By His deeds you shall know Him. He is always a G-d of mercy with His left
handl, and justice with His right, and the law he passed down to Moishe
declares
forever that sodomy is an abomination which He abhors.

The Eternal Squire

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"Stefan Heinzmann" wrote in message
John Woodgate wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote in 'OT! OT! Not in
Arizona',
on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

Maybe it's better for God to decide
afterall...

Ah, but which god? Moloch was one who made fun
decisions about child
survival.

Well, the *right* one, of course ;-)

And who decided which God is the "right" one?

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Abraham did!

The right G-d is the G-d of Isaac, Abraham, and
Jacob, and He goes by
several
names: YVYH (if you are Jewish), Jesus (if you
are Christian), Aslan (if
you are Narnian), Maleldil (if you like C.S.
Lewis), or Illuvatar (if you
prefer
Elvin theology).

By His deeds you shall know Him. He is always a
G-d of mercy with His left
handl, and justice with His right, and the law
he passed down to Moishe
declares
forever that sodomy is an abomination which He
abhors.

The Eternal Squire

Top posting Idiot's answer to a joke is always the
same!

It's the question they don't understand!

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"Stefan Heinzmann" wrote in message
John Woodgate wrote:
Fred Bloggs wrote in 'OT! OT! Not in
Arizona',
Maybe it's better for God to decide
afterall...

Ah, but which god? Moloch was one who made
fun
decisions about child survival.
Well, the *right* one, of course ;-)
And who decided which God is the "right" one?

Fred Bloggs · Feb 10, 2004

Roger Gt wrote:

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"The Eternal Squire" <eternalsquire@comcast.net
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Abraham did!

The right G-d is the G-d of Isaac, Abraham, and

Jacob, and He goes by

several
names: YVYH (if you are Jewish), Jesus (if you

are Christian), Aslan (if

you are Narnian), Maleldil (if you like C.S.

Lewis), or Illuvatar (if you

prefer
Elvin theology).

By His deeds you shall know Him. He is always a

G-d of mercy with His left

handl, and justice with His right, and the law

he passed down to Moishe

declares
forever that sodomy is an abomination which He

abhors.

The Eternal Squire

Top posting Idiot's answer to a joke is always the
same!

It's the question they don't understand!

Roger Gt <not@here.net> wrote in message

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"Stefan Heinzmann" wrote in message

John Woodgate wrote:

Fred Bloggs wrote in 'OT! OT! Not in

Arizona',

Maybe it's better for God to decide

afterall...

Ah, but which god? Moloch was one who made

fun

decisions about child survival.

Well, the *right* one, of course ;-)

And who decided which God is the "right" one?

To answer the question, the "right" God historically has been the one
whose believers have the most powerful "earthly" army

Mark J. · Feb 10, 2004

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Abraham did!

The right G-d is the G-d of Isaac, Abraham, and Jacob, and He goes by
several
names: YVYH (if you are Jewish), Jesus (if you are Christian), Aslan
(if you are Narnian), Maleldil (if you like C.S. Lewis), or Illuvatar
(if you prefer
Elvin theology).

By His deeds you shall know Him. He is always a G-d of mercy with His
left handl, and justice with His right, and the law he passed down to
Moishe declares forever that sodomy is an abomination which He abhors.

The Eternal Squire

Top posting Idiots answer to a joke is always the same!

It's the question they don't understand!

"It is this question that has brought you to me. Do you know what I am
talking about?"

"What is the Matrix?"

"Yes... the answer is out there, Neo... and it will find you, if you want
it to."

Bill Garber · Feb 10, 2004

"Mark J." <127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Gt):
: > X-No-Archive: yes
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: > "The Eternal Squire" <eternalsquire@comcast.net>
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: >> Abraham did!
: >>
: >> The right G-d is the G-d of Isaac, Abraham, and Jacob, and
He goes by
: >> several
: >> names: YVYH (if you are Jewish), Jesus (if you are
Christian), Aslan
: >> (if you are Narnian), Maleldil (if you like C.S. Lewis), or
Illuvatar
: >> (if you prefer
: >> Elvin theology).
: >>
: >> By His deeds you shall know Him. He is always a G-d of
mercy with His
: >> left handl, and justice with His right, and the law he
passed down to
: >> Moishe declares forever that sodomy is an abomination which
He abhors.
: >>
: >> The Eternal Squire
: >
: > Top posting Idiots answer to a joke is always the same!
: >
: > It's the question they don't understand!
: >
: "It is this question that has brought you to me. Do you know
what
: I am talking about?"
:
: "What is the Matrix?"
:
: "Yes... the answer is out there, Neo... and it will find you,
: if you want it to."

We are in the Matrix right now. Haven't you noticed that
everything finite can be defined mathmatically and all things
infinite are in the abstract? Buahahahahahahaha!

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Sir Charles W. Shults III · Feb 10, 2004

Everyone of intelligence recognizes that the only explanation for things
being the way they are is that this is all a simulation. For instance, when
the system crashes, the stack is saved and then restored, but sometimes
minor corruptions occur.
How else do you explain socks that vanish in the dryer or your car keys
showing up in the refrigerator? You KNOW that you left that light on but
now it is not only off, but unplugged! Last time I put these on, they fit-
now they don't! I remember seeing Back To The Future 4, where the Biff from
1955 gets into Doc's Institute of Future Technology and eventually has to
have his memory erased with that quantum scrambler... nobody seems to think
that the series went beyond part III, sigh...
And quantum mechanics proves that only the things you are observing are
really being fully simulated. The Bell Continuum is a set of variables and
registers!

Cheers!

Chip Shults

Roger Gt · Feb 10, 2004

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"Sir Charles W. Shults III"
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Everyone of intelligence recognizes that the
only explanation for things
being the way they are is that this is all a
simulation. For instance, when
the system crashes, the stack is saved and then
restored, but sometimes
minor corruptions occur.
How else do you explain socks that vanish in
the dryer or your car keys
showing up in the refrigerator? You KNOW that
you left that light on but
now it is not only off, but unplugged! Last
time I put these on, they fit-
now they don't! I remember seeing Back To The
Future 4, where the Biff from
1955 gets into Doc's Institute of Future
Technology and eventually has to
have his memory erased with that quantum
scrambler... nobody seems to think
that the series went beyond part III, sigh...
And quantum mechanics proves that only the
things you are observing are
really being fully simulated. The Bell
Continuum is a set of variables and
registers!

Cheers!

Chip Shults

Thank you for putting it ALL in perspective.

I was afraid I had allowed the freaky crowd in the
discussion till you brought us back to reality!

Sir Charles W. Shults III · Feb 10, 2004

"Jamie" <jamie_5_not_valid_after_5_Please@charter.net> wrote in message
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and you can sit here all day quoting your education and
giving your opinions of others and their ideas.
Sorry, but after reading the trail of replies you
have left behind it appears that you are still in the clouds
and yet haven't found a place to land.

...and quantum mechanics has not yet allowed "humor" to materialize near

you as well.

Cheers!

Chip Shults

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