OT! OT! Not in Arizona

[Jim Thompson]

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:r9782056d72okvl09biashp15bdrrmqcf6@4ax.com...

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
I've no idea what it's about Jim, but I'll bet it qualifies as "Only in

America"!

Ken

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:03:23 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:r9782056d72okvl09biashp15bdrrmqcf6@4ax.com...
Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
I've no idea what it's about Jim, but I'll bet it qualifies as "Only in
America"!

Ken

Yep. Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that it wasn't adequate to
allow gays to have just a Civil Union, it had to be MARRIAGE.

Quite surprising coming out the predominate church/police state.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Harry Conover]

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message news:<r9782056d72okvl09biashp15bdrrmqcf6@4ax.com>...

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Jim, the talk here in Massachusetts is that if "civil unions" are
disciminatory as the court has ruled, the Massachusetts legislature
will likely strike "civil unions" from the books pending an amendment
to the state constitution defining marriage.

Like they say, "it ain't over till the fat lady sings"!

Harry C.

 

[Keith R. Williams]

In article <lbe820lm1bf604kf75i7i5fs1bron92cl9@4ax.com>,
thegreatone@example.com says...

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:03:23 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:r9782056d72okvl09biashp15bdrrmqcf6@4ax.com...
Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
I've no idea what it's about Jim, but I'll bet it qualifies as "Only in
America"!

Ken


Yep. Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that it wasn't adequate to
allow gays to have just a Civil Union, it had to be MARRIAGE.

It's worse than that. The Mass Judicial Supreme court *ordered*
the legislature do pass a gay marriage bill. They should be run
out of Dodge on a rail, for violating separation of powers, if
nothing else. Of course our SC did the same thing (twice) a few
years ago and they're still living large.

Quite surprising coming out the predominate church/police state.

Not at all. Think: Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Barney Fag, and all
those who elected these "fine-upstanding" politicians.

--
Keith

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 18:05:57 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:03:23 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:r9782056d72okvl09biashp15bdrrmqcf6@4ax.com...
Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
I've no idea what it's about Jim, but I'll bet it qualifies as "Only in
America"!

Ken


Yep. Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that it wasn't adequate to
allow gays to have just a Civil Union, it had to be MARRIAGE.

Quite surprising coming out the predominate church/police state.

...Jim Thompson

Uh, excuse me, but why not? I can't see how allowing gays to marry
hurts anyone else, and if it leads to more monogomy, good; that may
keep the drug bills down. Civil union, domestic partners, marriage,
what's the difference? Might as well let them rent tuxes and limos and
wedding dresses, whatever sex they are.

Of course the legal issue is different: the Mass court has
miraculously discovered a constitutional right that 200+ years of
prior jurisprudence somehow casually overlooked.

John

 

[JeffM]

allow gays to have just a Civil Union, it had to be MARRIAGE.
Jim Thompson

Why shouldn't they have a chance to be a miserable as the rest.

 

[Mark J.]

In news:lbe820lm1bf604kf75i7i5fs1bron92cl9@4ax.com (Jim Thompson):

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 14:03:23 +1300, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:r9782056d72okvl09biashp15bdrrmqcf6@4ax.com...
Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
I've no idea what it's about Jim, but I'll bet it qualifies as "Only in
America"!

Ken


Yep. Massachusetts Supreme Court ruled that it wasn't adequate to
allow gays to have just a Civil Union, it had to be MARRIAGE.

Quite surprising coming out the predominate church/police state.

...Jim Thompson

This is a prime example of where an engineer can help. Whereas some see the
cup as being half-full and others see it as being half-empty, the engineer
would see that making the glass smaller eliminates the riff-raff without
disturbing the original party.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Jim Thompson wrote:

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

The whole issue is quite funny because it is the Courts who destroyed
the institution of marriage in this country. Prior to the 1960's, the
grounds for divorce were far and few between, requiring serious breach
of fidelity, neglect, insanity, or other forms of serious and provable
misconduct. This has since evolved into a simple filing, and incredibly
the divorce rate is 50-75% or whatever. This does NOT indicate any kind
of breakdown in moral values, it just means people will use their
options- statistically marriages have always been a disaster for most
people.

State control of marriage for non-legal purposes has always been a
hysterical JOKE. If you don't want to extend marriage to gays, then
don't tax them- since the discrimination bars them from enjoying equal
benefits- try that and watch the whole damned country declare themselves
gay!-LOL.

What goes around comes around. Now that Massachusetts is moving to give
this type of marriage the status of State law, all states will be bound
to legal recognition unless exception is made by the US Congress:

Full Faith and Credit clause

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Section one of Article four of the United States Constitution is known
as the Full Faith and Credit clause. This section has traditionally been
interpreted as requiring the reciprocal acknowledgement of each state's
actions by the other states. It was primarily intended to provide for
the continuity between states and enforcement across state lines of
non-federal laws, civil claims and court rulings. Without this clause,
enforcement of state-to-state extradition, portability of court orders,
nationwide recognition of legal status, out-of-state taxation, spousal
and child support, and the collection of fees and fines would all be
impossible without separate federal action, or a similar action by the
other states.

"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts,
Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress
may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and
Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."

The clause has been noted for its application involving orders of
protection, for which the clause was expounded upon by the Violence
Against Women Act , child support, for which the enforcement of the
clause was spelled out in the Federal Full Faith and Credit for Child
Support Act , and its possible application to same-sex marriage, civil
union and domestic partnership laws and cases , as well as the
controversial Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and the proposed Federal
Marriage Amendment. The clause has been the chief constitutional basis
for the repeated attacks on the DOMA.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
<fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in <4024ec9f$0$38553$abc4f4c3@news.w
anadoo.nl&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

My newspaper has a daily comic, 'The Judge', and this one was from
today. I've scanned and translated it for your entertainment

Well, potentially they do. If gays were in charge of world government,
and banned hetero sex, the human race would be extinct in about 120
years. You can't get much more MD than that. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> schreef in bericht
news:HtFEtaDn3PJAFwgY@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in <4024ec9f$0$38553$abc4f4c3@news.w
anadoo.nl&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:

My newspaper has a daily comic, 'The Judge', and this one was from
today. I've scanned and translated it for your entertainment

Well, potentially they do. If gays were in charge of world government,
and banned hetero sex, the human race would be extinct in about 120
years. You can't get much more MD than that. (;-)

I don't think everbody would obey such new laws. I know
at least 2 that wouldn't

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'x' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[Rene Tschaggelar]

John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in <4024ec9f$0$38553$abc4f4c3@news.w
anadoo.nl&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:


My newspaper has a daily comic, 'The Judge', and this one was from
today. I've scanned and translated it for your entertainment


Well, potentially they do. If gays were in charge of world government,
and banned hetero sex, the human race would be extinct in about 120
years. You can't get much more MD than that. (;-)

Actually, no. Artificial insemination is the key.
Breeding based on scientific results for highest whatever output.
Done on cows since ages.

Rene

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Frank Bemelman wrote:

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> schreef in bericht
news:HtFEtaDn3PJAFwgY@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in <4024ec9f$0$38553$abc4f4c3@news.w
anadoo.nl&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:


My newspaper has a daily comic, 'The Judge', and this one was from
today. I've scanned and translated it for your entertainment

Well, potentially they do. If gays were in charge of world government,
and banned hetero sex, the human race would be extinct in about 120
years. You can't get much more MD than that. (;-)


I don't think everbody would obey such new laws. I know
at least 2 that wouldn't

Then you would be declared legally deviant, a sex offender, and sent to
prison.

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:40250442.4030205@nospam.com...

Frank Bemelman wrote:
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> schreef in bericht
news:HtFEtaDn3PJAFwgY@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in <4024ec9f$0$38553$abc4f4c3@news.w
anadoo.nl&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:


My newspaper has a daily comic, 'The Judge', and this one was from
today. I've scanned and translated it for your entertainment

Well, potentially they do. If gays were in charge of world government,
and banned hetero sex, the human race would be extinct in about 120
years. You can't get much more MD than that. (;-)


I don't think everbody would obey such new laws. I know
at least 2 that wouldn't


Then you would be declared legally deviant, a sex offender, and sent to
prison.

I can only hope they have mixed prisons then, when it happens

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'x' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:07:27 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)
[snip]
Full Faith and Credit clause

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Section one of Article four of the United States Constitution is known
as the Full Faith and Credit clause.
[snip]

It is my understanding that fully 40 states have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause if applied to gay
*marriages*.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Mark J.]

In news:402503f3$0$701$5402220f@news.sunrise.ch (Rene Tschaggelar):

John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Frank Bemelman
fbemelx@euronet.invalid.nl> wrote (in
4024ec9f$0$38553$abc4f4c3@news.w anadoo.nl&gt about 'OT! OT! Not in
Arizona', on Sat, 7 Feb 2004:


My newspaper has a daily comic, 'The Judge', and this one was from
today. I've scanned and translated it for your entertainment


Well, potentially they do. If gays were in charge of world government,
and banned hetero sex, the human race would be extinct in about 120
years. You can't get much more MD than that. (;-)

Actually, no. Artificial insemination is the key.
Breeding based on scientific results for highest whatever output.
Done on cows since ages.

Rene

Next thing, male gays will be asking for womb implantations and females
penis grafting so they can have children "naturally"... how did Lennon put
it, "Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls?"

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:07:27 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

[snip]

Full Faith and Credit clause

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Section one of Article four of the United States Constitution is known
as the Full Faith and Credit clause.

[snip]

It is my understanding that fully 40 states have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause if applied to gay
*marriages*.

...Jim Thompson

This is not an option- they are bound by the Constitution and cannot
pick and choose which of its Articles they validate. You have been
around long enough to know this whole controversy is 150% politics- it
creates platforms for notoriety and advancement for the crusaders- it is
a waste of time and taxpayer money-all of the state laws will be
challenged and greatly publicized in the Federal District Courts with as
much fanfare and publicity as it takes to saturate the market for
politicians and mass media products. And for what? This marriage thing
looks like it's between middle-aged to older gay people who are a
pathetically insignificant percentage of the population- let them get
married- it will not be the end of the world.

 

[Mjolinor]

"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:40250EB2.7040106@nospam.com...

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 13:07:27 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:

Poor legislators in Massachusetts whining over what their "Supreme"
Court did to them.

In Arizona we'd already have them served with articles of impeachment,
with trial to start on Monday ;-)

[snip]

Full Faith and Credit clause

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

Section one of Article four of the United States Constitution is known
as the Full Faith and Credit clause.

[snip]

It is my understanding that fully 40 states have declared that they
won't recognize the validity of this clause if applied to gay
*marriages*.

...Jim Thompson

This is not an option- they are bound by the Constitution and cannot
pick and choose which of its Articles they validate. You have been
around long enough to know this whole controversy is 150% politics- it
creates platforms for notoriety and advancement for the crusaders- it is
a waste of time and taxpayer money-all of the state laws will be
challenged and greatly publicized in the Federal District Courts with as
much fanfare and publicity as it takes to saturate the market for
politicians and mass media products. And for what? This marriage thing
looks like it's between middle-aged to older gay people who are a
pathetically insignificant percentage of the population- let them get
married- it will not be the end of the world.

Roll on the discovery of time travel, they can be drowned at birth then.