OT: March 2020 hydroxychloroquine study

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/04/2020 01:40, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

If Trump is nothing else, he is a salesman. This is not a time to
be hawking unproven drugs at the daily medicine show.

You miss spelled snake oil conman.

SO WHAT? This is EXACTLY the time to be promoting drugs that are
clearly working. If I got infected, I would INSIST on being
prescribed HCQ and the ZPAK.

You would be better off with Remdesivir which has shown promise in early
first level testing in vivo.

https://pharma-industry-review.com/remdesivir-shows-promise-in-treatment-against-covid-19

HCQ is quack medicine promoted by the great incompetent himself.
I have no problems letting any wannabe Darwin award winners use it.

Trump's promotion of the stuff has already cost lives.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.
 
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:B5skG.676011$_R3.600294
@fx36.iad:

> more soothing after hearing them. Ah, this will work.

The group is looking for an NDA not an NWA.
 
On 4/11/2020 9:06 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:B5skG.676011$_R3.600294
@fx36.iad:

more soothing after hearing them. Ah, this will work.

The group is looking for an NDA not an NWA.

Important public service announcement for this troubled time:

<https://youtu.be/dpiKd4M4bMw?t=138>
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:28:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:44:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/04/2020 01:40, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

If Trump is nothing else, he is a salesman. This is not a time to
be hawking unproven drugs at the daily medicine show.

You miss spelled snake oil conman.

SO WHAT? This is EXACTLY the time to be promoting drugs that are
clearly working. If I got infected, I would INSIST on being
prescribed HCQ and the ZPAK.

You would be better off with Remdesivir which has shown promise in early
first level testing in vivo.

https://pharma-industry-review.com/remdesivir-shows-promise-in-treatment-against-covid-19

HCQ is quack medicine promoted by the great incompetent himself.
I have no problems letting any wannabe Darwin award winners use it.

Trump's promotion of the stuff has already cost lives.

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

Flyguy has this comprehension problem. You have to be selling something to qualify as a quack. Working out that Trump doesn't know what he is talking doesn't require any medical credentials whatsoever, and pointing it out isn't any kind of quackery.

Thinking that Trump might know what he is talking about would qualify Flyguy as a gullible twit, if he hadn't been advertising that fact here for weeks. Now it merely confirms the diagnosis.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

No, only a half-wit would think that.

Assuming that Pres Trump DOESN'T know what he is talking about CONFIRMS that you are a gullible twit.
 
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:44:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/04/2020 01:40, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

If Trump is nothing else, he is a salesman. This is not a time to
be hawking unproven drugs at the daily medicine show.

You miss spelled snake oil conman.

SO WHAT? This is EXACTLY the time to be promoting drugs that are
clearly working. If I got infected, I would INSIST on being
prescribed HCQ and the ZPAK.

You would be better off with Remdesivir which has shown promise in early
first level testing in vivo.

https://pharma-industry-review.com/remdesivir-shows-promise-in-treatment-against-covid-19

HCQ is quack medicine promoted by the great incompetent himself.
I have no problems letting any wannabe Darwin award winners use it.

Trump's promotion of the stuff has already cost lives.

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

Flyguy has this comprehension problem. You have to be selling something to qualify as a quack. Working out that Trump doesn't know what he is talking doesn't require any medical credentials whatsoever, and pointing it out isn't any kind of quackery.

Thinking that Trump might know what he is talking about would qualify Flyguy as a gullible twit, if he hadn't been advertising that fact here for weeks. Now it merely confirms the diagnosis.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:44:11 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:28:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:44:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/04/2020 01:40, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

If Trump is nothing else, he is a salesman. This is not a time to
be hawking unproven drugs at the daily medicine show.

You miss spelled snake oil conman.

SO WHAT? This is EXACTLY the time to be promoting drugs that are
clearly working. If I got infected, I would INSIST on being
prescribed HCQ and the ZPAK.

You would be better off with Remdesivir which has shown promise in early
first level testing in vivo.

https://pharma-industry-review.com/remdesivir-shows-promise-in-treatment-against-covid-19

HCQ is quack medicine promoted by the great incompetent himself.
I have no problems letting any wannabe Darwin award winners use it.

Trump's promotion of the stuff has already cost lives.

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

Flyguy has this comprehension problem. You have to be selling something to qualify as a quack. Working out that Trump doesn't know what he is talking doesn't require any medical credentials whatsoever, and pointing it out isn't any kind of quackery.

Thinking that Trump might know what he is talking about would qualify Flyguy as a gullible twit, if he hadn't been advertising that fact here for weeks. Now it merely confirms the diagnosis.

No, only a half-wit would think that.

Flyguy is a half-wit, so he can speak for them. He doesn't seem to have much of an idea what non-half-wits might think. He certainly doesn't pay any attention to any non-half-witted informant.

> Assuming that Pres Trump DOESN'T know what he is talking about CONFIRMS that you are a gullible twit.

So Flyguy and Trump are right, and more mentally competent people are wrong. That's wishful thinking. If you can call it thinking.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 2:15:49 PM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 08/04/2020 18:26, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:04:34 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 4/2/2020 5:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Mar 31, 2020
"What's Working for COVID-19 Patients"
https://journals.lww.com/em-news/blog/BreakingNews/pages/post.aspx
Lots of detail what's being done to treat COVID-19 in Queens, NY.

At one point Bill de Blasio (NY Mayor) said only 20% of those put on a
Ventilator survive. If that is true, this is a possible help.

I've read that ventilator mortality rates vary from 50% to 97% in
various articles. For example:
https://journals.lww.com/em-news/blog/BreakingNews/pages/post.aspx?PostID=508
...and the likely mortality is 50 to 80 percent for patients
needing intubation, especially those with pre-existing lung
or cardiac comorbidities.

It's really difficult to estable a proper number, especially when some
patients die after leaving the hospital.

The UK figure at the moment is that only 50% of the people with Covid-19
that they put on a ventilator get to walk out of the hospital again.

Germany seems to be doing rather better than this but no-one knows why.

There's also the problem of survivors developing pulmonary fibrosis
(scaring of the lung). At some point, we need to ask ourselves is
using a ventilator considered heroics and unworthy of the expense if
most patients die anyway. I don't have an answer to that question.

And some of those that do survive suffer permanent scarring of the lungs
but it is too soon to tell how or if that will improve over time.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

FWIW, one of my clients was on a ventilator for three weeks, and went home from the hospital last Sunday (with an oxygen tank). No word yet on how she will fare in the long run.
 
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:


No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.


And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:44:11 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:28:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:44:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/04/2020 01:40, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

If Trump is nothing else, he is a salesman. This is not a time to
be hawking unproven drugs at the daily medicine show.

You miss spelled snake oil conman.

SO WHAT? This is EXACTLY the time to be promoting drugs that are
clearly working. If I got infected, I would INSIST on being
prescribed HCQ and the ZPAK.

You would be better off with Remdesivir which has shown promise in early
first level testing in vivo.

https://pharma-industry-review.com/remdesivir-shows-promise-in-treatment-against-covid-19

HCQ is quack medicine promoted by the great incompetent himself.
I have no problems letting any wannabe Darwin award winners use it.

Trump's promotion of the stuff has already cost lives.

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

Flyguy has this comprehension problem. You have to be selling something to qualify as a quack. Working out that Trump doesn't know what he is talking doesn't require any medical credentials whatsoever, and pointing it out isn't any kind of quackery.

Thinking that Trump might know what he is talking about would qualify Flyguy as a gullible twit, if he hadn't been advertising that fact here for weeks. Now it merely confirms the diagnosis.

No, only a half-wit would think that.

Flyguy is a half-wit, so he can speak for them. He doesn't seem to have much of an idea what non-half-wits might think. He certainly doesn't pay any attention to any non-half-witted informant.

Assuming that Pres Trump DOESN'T know what he is talking about CONFIRMS that you are a gullible twit.

So Flyguy and Trump are right, and more mentally competent people are wrong. That's wishful thinking. If you can call it thinking.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Just more confirmation you're a gullible twit.
 
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:58:17 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:44:11 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 7:28:48 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 11:44:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 12:55:27 PM UTC-7, Martin Brown wrote:
On 11/04/2020 01:40, Flyguy wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 9:20:27 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:

If Trump is nothing else, he is a salesman. This is not a time to
be hawking unproven drugs at the daily medicine show.

You miss spelled snake oil conman.

SO WHAT? This is EXACTLY the time to be promoting drugs that are
clearly working. If I got infected, I would INSIST on being
prescribed HCQ and the ZPAK.

You would be better off with Remdesivir which has shown promise in early first level testing in vivo.

https://pharma-industry-review.com/remdesivir-shows-promise-in-treatment-against-covid-19

HCQ is quack medicine promoted by the great incompetent himself..
I have no problems letting any wannabe Darwin award winners use it.

Trump's promotion of the stuff has already cost lives.

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

Flyguy has this comprehension problem. You have to be selling something to qualify as a quack. Working out that Trump doesn't know what he is talking doesn't require any medical credentials whatsoever, and pointing it out isn't any kind of quackery.

Thinking that Trump might know what he is talking about would qualify Flyguy as a gullible twit, if he hadn't been advertising that fact here for weeks. Now it merely confirms the diagnosis.

No, only a half-wit would think that.

Flyguy is a half-wit, so he can speak for them. He doesn't seem to have much of an idea what non-half-wits might think. He certainly doesn't pay any attention to any non-half-witted informant.

Assuming that Pres Trump DOESN'T know what he is talking about CONFIRMS that you are a gullible twit.

So Flyguy and Trump are right, and more mentally competent people are wrong. That's wishful thinking. If you can call it thinking.

Just more confirmation you're a gullible twit.

Or so Flyguy imagines. He is a particularly stupid gullible twit.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 08/04/20 19:15, Martin Brown wrote:
On 08/04/2020 18:26, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 10:04:34 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 4/2/2020 5:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Mar 31, 2020
"What's Working for COVID-19 Patients"
https://journals.lww.com/em-news/blog/BreakingNews/pages/post.aspx
Lots of detail what's being done to treat COVID-19 in Queens, NY.

  At one point Bill de Blasio (NY Mayor) said only 20% of those put on a
Ventilator survive. If that is true, this is a possible help.

I've read that ventilator mortality rates vary from 50% to 97% in
various articles.  For example:
https://journals.lww.com/em-news/blog/BreakingNews/pages/post.aspx?PostID=508
    ...and the likely mortality is 50 to 80 percent for patients
    needing intubation, especially those with pre-existing lung
    or cardiac comorbidities.

It's really difficult to estable a proper number, especially when some
patients die after leaving the hospital.

The UK figure at the moment is that only 50% of the people with Covid-19 that
they put on a ventilator get to walk out of the hospital again.

Germany seems to be doing rather better than this but no-one knows why.

There's also the problem of survivors developing pulmonary fibrosis
(scaring of the lung).  At some point, we need to ask ourselves is
using a ventilator considered heroics and unworthy of the expense if
most patients die anyway.  I don't have an answer to that question.

And some of those that do survive suffer permanent scarring of the lungs but it
is too soon to tell how or if that will improve over time.

The 20% and 100% in the paper below is sobering.
FFI, read the refs in the paper.

from "Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and Prone Positioning"
https://aacnjournals.org/aacnacconline/article/29/4/415/2281/Acute-Respiratory-Distress-Syndrome-and-Prone


The long-term morbidity of critical ill-
ness coupled with ARDS is extensive, with
substantial physical, neuropsychiatric, and
neurocognitive impairment reported in patients
for as long as 5 years after recovery. Cogni-
tive impairment has been reported in up to
100% of patients at discharge and in nearly
20% of patients after 5 years. Compromised
quality of life including depression and post-
traumatic stress disorders has been reported
in patients and their families.

Make sure you have an "Advance Decision" lodged
with your doctor, if you live in the UK :(

Mine basically says if I cannot express a decision
and will never be able to express a decision,
then don't keep me alive. Now the doctors have the
final decision, but it should help them avoid
stupidities.

At least I now know why I prefer to sleep on my
stomach :)
 
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:38:14 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis..

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

News flash: most countries of the world are MUCH SMALLER than the US, more like a state. AND the Chicomms are LYING THRU THEIR COLLECTIVE TEETH:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/
 
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:58:46 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:52:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:38:14 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

News flash: most countries of the world are MUCH SMALLER than the US, more like a state.

US exceptionalism looks for every possible excuse. Flyguy hasn't noticed that China is much bigger than the US, and managed to contained their epidemic to Hubei Province, which is of the same sort of size as New York State, without haveing nearly as many people end up dead.

AND the Chicomms are LYING THRU THEIR COLLECTIVE TEETH:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

Flyguy's excuse for ignoring any information that doesn't suite his argument. He doesn't know what he's talking about, so - technically - he isn't lying through his teeth.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

LOL! Even Slow Man can't ignore the OBVIOUS so he CHANGES THE SUBJECT!!! Get your brain out of REVERSE, Slow Man!!!!
 
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:52:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:38:14 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

News flash: most countries of the world are MUCH SMALLER than the US, more like a state.

US exceptionalism looks for every possible excuse. Flyguy hasn't noticed that China is much bigger than the US, and managed to contained their epidemic to Hubei Province, which is of the same sort of size as New York State, without haveing nearly as many people end up dead.

AND the Chicomms are LYING THRU THEIR COLLECTIVE TEETH:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

Flyguy's excuse for ignoring any information that doesn't suite his argument. He doesn't know what he's talking about, so - technically - he isn't lying through his teeth.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 12/04/2020 04:33, rangerssuck wrote:
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 2:15:49 PM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:

And some of those that do survive suffer permanent scarring of the
lungs but it is too soon to tell how or if that will improve over
time.

-- Regards, Martin Brown

FWIW, one of my clients was on a ventilator for three weeks, and went
home from the hospital last Sunday (with an oxygen tank). No word yet
on how she will fare in the long run.

One of my relatives friends has just got out of hospital after a bad
reaction to Covid. They have been told 6 months to convalesce and that
lung capacity might not recover completely. They are an active athletic
individual, keen hill walker and skier so that is a bit of a blow.

The truth is that they don't yet know how people that have been through
this process will recover since the disease is less than 6 months old.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
 
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:58:46 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:52:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:38:14 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

News flash: most countries of the world are MUCH SMALLER than the US, more like a state.

US exceptionalism looks for every possible excuse. Flyguy hasn't noticed that China is much bigger than the US, and managed to contained their epidemic to Hubei Province, which is of the same sort of size as New York State, without haveing nearly as many people end up dead.

AND the Chicomms are LYING THRU THEIR COLLECTIVE TEETH:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

Flyguy's excuse for ignoring any information that doesn't suite his argument. He doesn't know what he's talking about, so - technically - he isn't lying through his teeth.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Hey Slow Man, the Chicomms have been LYING about COVID-19 since DAY ONE! Their numbers are WORTHLESS. Only dolts like you and the WHO believe them.
 
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 2:23:36 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:58:46 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:52:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:38:14 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

News flash: most countries of the world are MUCH SMALLER than the US, more like a state.

US exceptionalism looks for every possible excuse. Flyguy hasn't noticed that China is much bigger than the US, and managed to contained their epidemic to Hubei Province, which is of the same sort of size as New York State, without haveing nearly as many people end up dead.

AND the Chicomms are LYING THRU THEIR COLLECTIVE TEETH:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

Flyguy's excuse for ignoring any information that doesn't suite his argument. He doesn't know what he's talking about, so - technically - he isn't lying through his teeth.

Hey Slow Man, the Chicomms have been LYING about COVID-19 since DAY ONE! Their numbers are WORTHLESS. Only dolts like you and the WHO believe them.

This is argument by mindless reiteration. A moron wouldn't bother, but Flyguy is an imbecile hoping to pass himself off as cretin, and failing.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 9:52:38 AM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 2:23:36 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:58:46 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 12:52:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 10:38:14 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 1:59:23 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 8:16:23 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux....@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:567b082a-61b1-4566-bcf9-
7ef6fa09e43f@googlegroups.com:

No, YOU are the quack with no medical credentials whatsoever.

And you are the Trumpanzee retard believing his bullshit as fact.

Asked about the metrics, and the retarded fuck pointed to his skull
and had the gall to declare himself as the best at doing the analysis.

Sure am glad that you AREN'T president!

Flyguy does take comfort from his delusions, no matter how unrealistic they are.

Trump has run the US response to the Covid-19 epidemic so ineptly that the US now has more case and more deaths than anywhere else, despite the fact that there are countries around that had managed to pretty much stop the epidemic before the US had even started seeing community transmission.

It's remarkably poor performance for what is supposed to be an advanced industrial country.

Australia has done much better, after a rather inept start.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

News flash: most countries of the world are MUCH SMALLER than the US, more like a state.

US exceptionalism looks for every possible excuse. Flyguy hasn't noticed that China is much bigger than the US, and managed to contained their epidemic to Hubei Province, which is of the same sort of size as New York State, without haveing nearly as many people end up dead.

AND the Chicomms are LYING THRU THEIR COLLECTIVE TEETH:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

Flyguy's excuse for ignoring any information that doesn't suite his argument. He doesn't know what he's talking about, so - technically - he isn't lying through his teeth.

Hey Slow Man, the Chicomms have been LYING about COVID-19 since DAY ONE! Their numbers are WORTHLESS. Only dolts like you and the WHO believe them..

This is argument by mindless reiteration. A moron wouldn't bother, but Flyguy is an imbecile hoping to pass himself off as cretin, and failing.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

Slow Man can't rebut the obvious - him and the Chicomms are inveterate liars.
 

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